Sebowski
Footballguy
Probably not. I thought his first match was the ppv street fight vs Kurt Angle. Looking at his match history now I was pretty far off. That Angle match though is still an all time great.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Pretty disappointed in all of you.
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
I thought this was the UFC thread. I must have missed that left turn at Albuquerque...
Sebowski
Footballguy
MMA thread. Watch that Shane-Angle Street Fight in question and then try to tell me this is the wrong thread.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Watched it. This is the wrong thread.Sebowski said:
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
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Per our great source: This deal is worth a total of 320m/yr (160m/yr each). ESPN and NBC to pay for production (current deal UFC pays for production). ESPN and NBC will also have streaming rights and the fightpass prelims moving to their streaming platforms. Contender series to replace tuf (each network gets one season each per year). PPV’s reduced to 6 a year. New weight classes to be added to help fill the increased fight nights (men 165, female 105, etc). Each network will have exclusive rights to certain fighters (similar to how HBO and Showtime have their own boxers which they develop and build) outside of PPV.
modogg
Footballguy
So with more information coming out about the Conner incident, i am ok with backing off my initial reaction with Conner. Sounds like Khabib played him well, but was also pretty deuchy with Artom with in the hotel and wasn't just playing around. Was deliberate and a #### move, typical AKA bullying behavior i suppose. It is like they are new the Lion's Den when Shamrock was a big thing. i liked how when DC got the belt the UFC gave him and they started talking how they will have all the belts soon.
Conner definitely can't avoid all punishment, but i am sure it will be lighter then first assumed. crazy how Khabib and his screw will likely get away with the whole incident with no repercussions.
Conner definitely can't avoid all punishment, but i am sure it will be lighter then first assumed. crazy how Khabib and his screw will likely get away with the whole incident with no repercussions.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
oh well it was a fun idea while it lasted....
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Per our great source: This deal is worth a total of 320m/yr (160m/yr each). ESPN and NBC to pay for production (current deal UFC pays for production). ESPN and NBC will also have streaming rights and the fightpass prelims moving to their streaming platforms. Contender series to replace tuf (each network gets one season each per year). PPV’s reduced to 6 a year. New weight classes to be added to help fill the increased fight nights (men 165, female 105, etc). Each network will have exclusive rights to certain fighters (similar to how HBO and Showtime have their own boxers which they develop and build) outside of PPV.
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NBC spokesperson calls this "false", at least from NBC's side. ESPN, UFC, and Endeavor (which owns UFC) all decline to comment.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
not sure i see the incidents as similar. yes khabib intimidated one of Conor's buddies but he never assaulted him. Conor went full nut job by bringing in a gang to throw heavy objects at a bus full of people who weren't even involved.
Also Conor has a ton of money and put himself at risk of losing a bunch in lawsuits.
modogg
Footballguy
also wonder when Reebok deal expires, i know it is soon. interested to see what becomes of all of that and what the UFC will do. whatever network UFC goes with will probably want to have the fighters have a little more personality shown and expression
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
yeah, no doubt was real dumb by Conner. But Khabib and his crew was deliberate and planned out. what they did was predatory and pure bullying behavior (having 15+ guys corner Artom basically suggesting they are going to rape him when it was 15-1). Conner was just impulsive and dumb about it.
Conner would be a good friend to have though to fly in when something like that happen and have your back that quick. but still, risked a ton, and he sounds contrite realizing fighters weren't able to fight because of what he did.
basically
Khabib - 1, Conner - 0
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
i heard it on a podcast and read it somewhere. can't remember where i read it (real late last night), but the podcast was the Co-Main Event Podcast with Ben Fowlkes from MMAJunkie. they didn't go into crazy details, but presented it well enough to get the impression that Conner didn't do what he did without any reason.
i haven't read this article yet, and i am sure it won't have anything anti-Khabib, but maybe can give some context. It was funny doing a google search, all the top stories are Khabib or his camp giving all the details on what happened.:
https://sports.yahoo.com/khabib-nurmagomedov-reveals-details-artem-lobov-altercation-180319822--mma.html
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
In your understanding what did Khabib do that justified a reason for Conor's actions? I saw that link a long time ago and a lot more.
modogg
Footballguy
not sure anything justified what Conner did, point is Khabib provoked it and probably got a reaction he was looking for. now, by being a bully and a ####, he will make a ton of money in the Khabib-Conner fight.
the Embedded video of the incident has had more views then any Embedded before, including the Mayweath-Conner fight
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
yep. in the end it will make the UFC a ton of money. Right now Dana White seems mad but if a Conor/Khabib fight happens he'll be giddy about this incident.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Trying this one last time. What did Khabib do that gave Conor any reason to do what he did? You are suggesting above that something was presented that provides a reason.
Is that what you see? I see a guy approaching another dude who was talking smack about him and putting him in his place. I got the impression they ran into each other in the hotel where they were staying. Pretty sure Khababi doesn't need his entourage to confront Artem.
Now speaking of deliberate and planned out, you see the footage of Connor and his delinquent buddies jumping into their SUV like it's a clown car on the way to cause their little ruckus?
modogg
Footballguy
look, i am not trying to defend McGreggor with what he did. For me, when he jumped in the cage at the Bellator event and pushed the ref, that was way over the line and worse then this.
All i am saying is I don't know how innocent Khabib is in all of this. MMA media is different then some other sports media in that fighters often share a lot of stuff they probably wouldn't in any other sport. i haven' really paid a ton of attn. to the whole thing because it is ludicrous to begin with. I am just saying, the day it happened i was 100% bashing McGreggor. After hearing some things, it doesn't make what Conner did better, but it puts another light on the subject. i guess i am suggesting Khabib does not seem to be a poor victim here.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
did Khabib really need a posse to confront Lobov? I thinks thats the point of the whole CM reaction
EYLive
Footballguy
Khabib has a comically large team following him at all times. They just happened to encounter Artem in the fighters hotel lobby. His gang will outnumber everyone everywhere.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Yea, I'm sure Khabib is scared of 14-14-1 Lobov. I don't think anyone would even know his name if Conman McGreggor didn't throw a fit and threaten to quit TUF if he wasn't brought back on. And now look at how psychoticly he runs to his defense. Something is kind of weird about the relationship of those two.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
who said anything about being scared? im only pointing out the obvious ...he rolled up on Lobov ...im sure it was incidental.....maybe he should have said to his crew ...''stay back over there ...i wanna talk to this guy one on one''
Im in no way ,shape or form defending CM `s actions...im merely voicing my opinion...i think CM saw the video everyone else saw and went ballistic
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
im pretty sure he Khabib didnt have his crew with him on that bus...just a guy or 2 maybe...so CM wanted to show him how it feels to be outnumbered ...again...just my opinion...im trying to make some sense of the whole thing
Connor is an out of control Dbag... what is to understand?
I don't know how confronting a guy and having a man to man (this 15-1 raping stuff is insane, there's video of the incident, Khabib's crew is just there, they do nothing.... in fact, you can hear them saying "get back"), constitutes anything near chucking a dolly at a bus window. One happens all the time back stage, the other is assault.
Look, how would you react if someone smacked your girlfriend? That's why Connor went off the deep end like that.
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BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
well i see the highest grossing fight in UFC history(Khabi in Russia..or Ireland) in his future because of this exposure...crazy like a fox some would say
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
Good fight! That was a really good fill in. Fight went back & forth. Crazy how Cowboy got him in that choke off of that roll.
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Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
I think the smart money is on Porier. We know it's gonna be a slugfest, but Alvarez exposed the guy imo. He's still a force to be reckoned with, but I think Porier is a smart and experienced enough guy where he should be able to figure him out.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
This is awesome!!!! Win or lose Gathje is incredibly entertaining.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
What is going on here? I love Gathje, but he's looking pretty dirty here. Pretty clear open hand to eye the second time.
East Coast Bias
Footballguy
Great fight.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
The kids gonna be rhe greatest UFC loser of all time. I'd love to see him vs Nate Diaz, another guy who isn't afraid to exchange. Porier is really good, and doesn't get the credit. Porier Alvarez 2 makes sense.
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Bobcat10
Footballguy
Looked to be doing it all fight.
Didn’t see that ending coming after how the 3rd ended. But wow!
I had it 29-27 DP after 3. Anyone think it was 28s?
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
He seems to love getting hit. Many times he just covers up and let’s the guy unload on him. Entertaining as heck, but you can’t have long term success that way.