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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I think you're wrong on the CAR TE analysis to a degree here. While they like Rosario, he had a 4.88 40 time at the combine, whereas King ran a 4.75 the year prior. King has very good hands as well (I can't speak to Rosario). I've seen a lot of King and while he isn't the top caliber prospect at TE, he is above average and can be a very nice TE.
Sleeper 43
Footballguy
Update: Carolina Panthers tight end Jeff King is currently lining up as the starter at the position in Training CampKing 1 / Rosario 0
, Pasquino's boy could be breaking through finally.
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pretender
Footballguy
Wasn't sure about VS so I traded him and promoted Jeff King off my taxi squad - have Todd Heap as my starter! Hoping for good things for King in the future.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
PANTHERS DAILY DIGEST
By Darin Gantt · The Herald
Published 07/31/07
STOCK DOWN
TE Michael Gaines is getting a lot of extra instruction, and he needs to show he's got the offense down.
He's pretty much already been passed by Jeff King, and needs to do some things to prove to the staff he deserves time. He can be a good blocker, and he can make nice catches, but he's been inconsistent his whole Panthers career.
By Darin Gantt · The Herald
Published 07/31/07
STOCK DOWN
TE Michael Gaines is getting a lot of extra instruction, and he needs to show he's got the offense down.
He's pretty much already been passed by Jeff King, and needs to do some things to prove to the staff he deserves time. He can be a good blocker, and he can make nice catches, but he's been inconsistent his whole Panthers career.
rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
I see some a different time for Rosariio here: 4.75.Rosario also had an excellent sub 7 second 3 cone drill (probably a more useful speed measurement for a TE), a 36" vertical, and a 9'7 broad jump: his combine stats matched up well.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Rosario is getting time at fullback and tight end.
Which hurts his possible starting status for '07.
Which hurts his possible starting status for '07.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Tight end tandem double trouble for opponents
By Larry Mayer
BOURBONNAIS, Ill. – Putting tight ends Desmond Clark and Greg Olsen on the field together as the Bears have done in training camp figures to pose major problems for opposing defenses this season.
Clark, a converted college wide receiver, is a nine-year veteran who had 45 receptions for a career-high 626 yards and 6 TDs last season. Olsen, a talented first-round pick, provides another dimension at the position with speed and athleticism.
Tight end Desmond Clark tied for the Bears' lead with six touchdown receptions last season.
“It’s going to be tough for defenses to match up against us when you put those two tight ends out there,” Clark said. “If you leave three linebackers in the game, one of us is going to get open. If you bring a DB in the game to try to cover him or me, we’ll pound you [on the ground].”
The tandem has been effective in practice generally with Clark lining up at the traditional tight end position and Olsen splitting out wide, moving into the slot or motioning into the backfield.
“I’m anxious to see exactly how teams will handle it,” said coach Lovie Smith, “whether they say it’s a two tight end set or they treat Olsen as a wide receiver. After you see him running routes outside, you could easily treat him as a receiver. He has those types of skills.”
Clark has started 60 of 62 games played in four seasons with the Bears. But the 6-3, 249-pounder puts team goals ahead of individual accomplishments and isn’t threatened by Olsen’s presence.
“I’m happy if we win,” Clark said. “I’ve been through the tough years. I’ve been a guy who only caught 20-something passes, so it’s not going to take much to make me happy.
“I believe they’re going to find ways to utilize both of us and get both of us on the field for a lot of different situations. As you can see out here in practice, we’re on the field a lot, probably 60 percent of the plays we’re out here together. We just hope that continues throughout the season.”
While Clark is frequently asked about battling to retain his starting job, he views Olsen as an ally rather than a competitor.
“We’re all out here just trying to win,” Clark said. “We’re not looking at it as me against him or him against me. We’re looking at it as both of us trying to go out here and be the best team that we can be.
“I’m out here helping him because I want to see him be the best tight end he can be for this team and for himself and right now he’s picking up everything fast. You see the kinds of plays that he’s making out here, so we’re expecting big things out of him this year.”
Having Clark and Olsen on the field together should open things up for their teammates.
“It’ll create a lot of mismatches,” said receiver Muhsin Muhammad. “A safety’s going to have to come down and cover one of those tight ends. [The receivers] will get one-on-ones on the outside and that’s when Bernard [berrian] and I excel.”
Olsen has performed exceptionally well so far in training camp, separating from defenders and catching virtually every pass thrown in his direction. Olsen and converted cornerback Devin Hester have helped the offense produce a number of big plays in team drills.
“We’ve gotten off to a pretty fast start,” Clark said. “I think a lot of it has to do with Greg and Devin. They’ve given a whole lot of offensive firepower right now that we didn’t have last year. We had some firepower, but with those two guys it’s just that much better.”
While Olsen wasn’t considered a great blocker coming out of the University of Miami, the 6-5, 254-pounder has impressed his veteran teammate.
“What I’ve been most surprised about with Greg is his blocking ability,” Clark said. “It takes most rookies a while to learn how to block on this level, but he’s come in and picked up everything right off the bat. He’s progressing right now at a fast rate.”
By Larry Mayer
BOURBONNAIS, Ill. – Putting tight ends Desmond Clark and Greg Olsen on the field together as the Bears have done in training camp figures to pose major problems for opposing defenses this season.
Clark, a converted college wide receiver, is a nine-year veteran who had 45 receptions for a career-high 626 yards and 6 TDs last season. Olsen, a talented first-round pick, provides another dimension at the position with speed and athleticism.
Tight end Desmond Clark tied for the Bears' lead with six touchdown receptions last season.
“It’s going to be tough for defenses to match up against us when you put those two tight ends out there,” Clark said. “If you leave three linebackers in the game, one of us is going to get open. If you bring a DB in the game to try to cover him or me, we’ll pound you [on the ground].”
The tandem has been effective in practice generally with Clark lining up at the traditional tight end position and Olsen splitting out wide, moving into the slot or motioning into the backfield.
“I’m anxious to see exactly how teams will handle it,” said coach Lovie Smith, “whether they say it’s a two tight end set or they treat Olsen as a wide receiver. After you see him running routes outside, you could easily treat him as a receiver. He has those types of skills.”
Clark has started 60 of 62 games played in four seasons with the Bears. But the 6-3, 249-pounder puts team goals ahead of individual accomplishments and isn’t threatened by Olsen’s presence.
“I’m happy if we win,” Clark said. “I’ve been through the tough years. I’ve been a guy who only caught 20-something passes, so it’s not going to take much to make me happy.
“I believe they’re going to find ways to utilize both of us and get both of us on the field for a lot of different situations. As you can see out here in practice, we’re on the field a lot, probably 60 percent of the plays we’re out here together. We just hope that continues throughout the season.”
While Clark is frequently asked about battling to retain his starting job, he views Olsen as an ally rather than a competitor.
“We’re all out here just trying to win,” Clark said. “We’re not looking at it as me against him or him against me. We’re looking at it as both of us trying to go out here and be the best team that we can be.
“I’m out here helping him because I want to see him be the best tight end he can be for this team and for himself and right now he’s picking up everything fast. You see the kinds of plays that he’s making out here, so we’re expecting big things out of him this year.”
Having Clark and Olsen on the field together should open things up for their teammates.
“It’ll create a lot of mismatches,” said receiver Muhsin Muhammad. “A safety’s going to have to come down and cover one of those tight ends. [The receivers] will get one-on-ones on the outside and that’s when Bernard [berrian] and I excel.”
Olsen has performed exceptionally well so far in training camp, separating from defenders and catching virtually every pass thrown in his direction. Olsen and converted cornerback Devin Hester have helped the offense produce a number of big plays in team drills.
“We’ve gotten off to a pretty fast start,” Clark said. “I think a lot of it has to do with Greg and Devin. They’ve given a whole lot of offensive firepower right now that we didn’t have last year. We had some firepower, but with those two guys it’s just that much better.”
While Olsen wasn’t considered a great blocker coming out of the University of Miami, the 6-5, 254-pounder has impressed his veteran teammate.
“What I’ve been most surprised about with Greg is his blocking ability,” Clark said. “It takes most rookies a while to learn how to block on this level, but he’s come in and picked up everything right off the bat. He’s progressing right now at a fast rate.”
Kai's Hero
Footballguy
CP ..... Courtney was cut by the Raiders and I think he was picked up by the Dolphins 2 days later. Just an FYI.Some writers throw out these nice round numbers without having any idea how out of context those numbers are in terms of historical norms. And to go even further and call it a lock. Just sad.Rookie TEs, even the ones who turn out to be stars, generally have pretty meager numbers. Add to that, he's on the Raiders who won't have a huge number of receptions, and that there are 2-4 WRs who will be getting a good share of balls, and the RB is supposed to be more involved again this year in the passing game, and that Miller will be sharing time at TE with Courtney Anderson and/or Randal Williams... I'll give him 15-30 catches in his rookie year, not 50+. If he exceeds 30 it'll be a very successful year for him.Miller to catch sixty balls?
Zach Miller - TE - OAK - Jul. 22 - 8:01 pm et
The Oakland Tribune believes that Raiders TE Zach Miller would "seem a lock for 50 or more" catches if he can play in all 16 games.
It'd be one of the best rookie tight end performances in history. Miller is expected to start but isn't a great bet to catch more than 35 balls on a poor passing offense. He's also unlikely to be a seam stretcher right away. Jul. 22 - 8:01 pm et
Source: Oakland Tribune
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Rookie tight end Miller a TD machine in campSome writers throw out these nice round numbers without having any idea how out of context those numbers are in terms of historical norms. And to go even further and call it a lock. Just sad.Rookie TEs, even the ones who turn out to be stars, generally have pretty meager numbers. Add to that, he's on the Raiders who won't have a huge number of receptions, and that there are 2-4 WRs who will be getting a good share of balls, and the RB is supposed to be more involved again this year in the passing game, and that Miller will be sharing time at TE with Courtney Anderson and/or Randal Williams... I'll give him 15-30 catches in his rookie year, not 50+. If he exceeds 30 it'll be a very successful year for him.Miller to catch sixty balls?
Zach Miller - TE - OAK - Jul. 22 - 8:01 pm et
The Oakland Tribune believes that Raiders TE Zach Miller would "seem a lock for 50 or more" catches if he can play in all 16 games.
It'd be one of the best rookie tight end performances in history. Miller is expected to start but isn't a great bet to catch more than 35 balls on a poor passing offense. He's also unlikely to be a seam stretcher right away. Jul. 22 - 8:01 pm et
Source: Oakland Tribune
Kiffin raving about Arizona State product's ability to make plays
By Steve Corkran, MEDIANEWS STAFF
Article Last Updated: 08/03/2007 02:35:53 AM PDT
NAPA — Josh McCown. Andrew Walter. Daunte Culpepper. High. Low. Wide. It didn't matter. Any pass thrown in the vicinity of rookie tight end Zach Miller on Thursday resulted in a touchdown.
Miller out of Arizona State scored four times in a short span in his continued effort to emerge from training camp as the Raiders starting tight end.
"Yeah, I felt good today," Miller said after his eye-opening performance. "I got good opportunities (Thursday) and I took advantage, was able to make a few nice plays. So, I was pretty happy with myself."
He wasn't the only one giddy about the showing. Raiders coach Lane Kiffin said Miller's play makes it easy to forget that Miller is a rookie and hasn't even been in camp for a week yet.
"He's great," Kiffin said. "He's everything we thought, as far as a competitor, the way he works, the way he is in the classroom. He comes out here and rarely ever does he make a mental mistake.
"You got to be careful because you're starting to feel like he's not a rookie, he's been here a long time. But we still have to make sure that we're going through all the steps we would with another rookie."
PLAY OF THE DAY: Cornerback Fabian Washington made a diving, fingertip catch of a Walter pass for tight end John Madsen midway through practice. The play drew oohs and aahs from Washington's teammates.
WILLIAMS RETURNS: Tight end Randal Williams returned to the team after missing the past three days because of "personal
issues," Kiffin said.
Williams has a lingering back injury that first surfaced last season. He didn't practice Thursday. He said afterward that he is uncertain about his status with the team.
Fellow tight end Tony Stewart has worn Williams' number (86) the past two days.
EXTRA POINTS: Outside linebacker Thomas Howard (undisclosed) and left offensive tackle Barry Sims (gluteus) returned to practice. Fourteen others missed practice, including backup center Jeremy Newberry. ... Raiders managing general partner Al Davis attended practice for the third time this year. He made it to only one practice last year. ... Four league officials worked the Raiders practice. Kiffin said he instructed the officials to throw the penalty flag on everything they see so that the Raiders can use it to get better.
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Hooper31
Footballguy
#10 in 2005
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Does anyone have insight on the Ben Patrick / Leonard Pope situation in Arizona ?
shadyridr
Footballguy
You think Whisenthunt will all of a sudden start using TEs?
