Under what logic is Brian Westbrook ahead of LT? (1 Viewer)

[thehobbit]

Both RBs are virtually the same age.

LT has since after his rookie year never finished below 3rd.

Just two year removed and Westbrook was consider an injury plague RB that should be avoid, and because of injuries was thought to have a shorter career than a typical RB.

Turner has left SD which should be a benefit for more of the load for LT.(not that he didnt get the full load anyways)

Playing Washington,Dallas,and NYG twice a year concerns me more than playing Oakland, Denver, Kansas City when speaking against the run.

I would say both players had on balance performances in the first half of their play as they did the second half.

Point generation wise in the last 3 years SD has outproduce Eagles by about a total of 280 points.

I am just curious under what logic Jeff Hasseley rates Brian Westbrook ahead of LT, or anyone else for that matter and why?

I think its also questionable to why LT isn't #1 over AP, but since the default answer will be age. There isn't a real point to argue

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Haseley is the one I assume you're talking about with Westy over LT. It doesn't make any sense at all.

Pasquino and Haseley have some strange rankings. Blooms is the only one I agree with most of. It almost seems like they're trying to go out on a limb to do something different to not have the same rankings as everyone else.

Once I see S.Jackson ranked 5 I usually stop paying attention to that person's rankings.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Haseley is the one I assume you're talking about with Westy over LT. It doesn't make any sense at all. Pasquino and Haseley have some strange rankings. Blooms is the only one I agree with most of. It almost seems like they're trying to go out on a limb to do something different to not have the same rankings as everyone else.Once I see S.Jackson ranked 5 I usually stop paying attention to that person's rankings.

It almost seems like they're trying to go out on a limb to do something different to not have the same rankings as everyone else.From now on lets just called this the 'Mayock way of ranking'.Make crazy rankings and if it comes true, your the best. If it doesn't no one will remember.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Westbrook led the NFL in total yards last season, so it's not unreasonable to put him ahead of Tomlinson. Touchdowns are a lot harder to predict than yards, and Westbrook seems likely to be in the running for leading the league in yards from scrimmage again this year.

There are also some legitimate concerns about Tomlinson's health, what with the sprained MCL and the incredible workload LT's had thus far. He's got the most touches in NFL history through seven years.

 

[gianmarco]

I agree that there are some questionable rankings. But I do agree that there is no reason I would put LT above Westbrook.

Another glaring one that I see is having Burress 4 spots AHEAD of Torry Holt. It seems Holt is falling hard for some reason in dynasty rankings, but the guy is still only 31 right now. But, even if age is a reason to drop him, Burress is only 1 year younger. If age isn't the reason, how else does Burress rank above Holt? I would under no circumstances ever consider wanting Plax over Torry. Ever.

I also don't understand Wayne being ranked #2 on Bloom's list and Moss #6. Again, age should not be a factor between those 2 as Reggie is only 1 1/2 yrs younger. Is Wayne seriously going to outproduce Moss over the next 3 yrs (at which time Wayne will be 33 and Moss 34)? I don't see that. I can understand putting AJ or Fitz or Edwards above Moss (maybe) bc of age, but not Wayne. I think Wayne is being seriously overvalued at this point considering he's turning 30 this year. When I see a guy like Holt has his value tumble at age 32 to being barely ranked in the top 20, I don't think Wayne should be #1 keeping that in mind when a similar fate might befall him in just 1-2 yrs.

K, hijack over.

I agree, LT should be above Westbrook, but at the same time, almost splitting hairs as both are elite and both getting elder.

 

[westbrook36]

Westbrook is the man thats why!

No really homer feelings aside, I would put LT ahead of Westbrook for fantasy.

 

[Donnybrook]

Another glaring one that I see is having Burress 4 spots AHEAD of Torry Holt. It seems Holt is falling hard for some reason in dynasty rankings, but the guy is still only 31 right now. But, even if age is a reason to drop him, Burress is only 1 year younger. If age isn't the reason, how else does Burress rank above Holt? I would under no circumstances ever consider wanting Plax over Torry. Ever.

I think it has more to do with the status of his knee rather than his age.

 

[gianmarco]

Another glaring one that I see is having Burress 4 spots AHEAD of Torry Holt. It seems Holt is falling hard for some reason in dynasty rankings, but the guy is still only 31 right now. But, even if age is a reason to drop him, Burress is only 1 year younger. If age isn't the reason, how else does Burress rank above Holt? I would under no circumstances ever consider wanting Plax over Torry. Ever.

I think it has more to do with the status of his knee rather than his age.

The same knee that made him miss ZERO games in 2007 and only let him catch 93 balls for 1189 yds and 7 TDs? There was a lot of talk about that knee in the preseason and he essentially went out and did what he always does on a God-awful Rams team. If there were concerns about his knee, I think those were mostly put to rest in 2007. There are no new reports that I know of that should raise new concerns. Personally, I think it was a lot of overblown media reporting.But, if you do believe in the knee being an issue, that's fine. However, it's not as if Plaxico is the epitome of health himself. He has had significantly more injuries and missed more time than Holt has and his injuries HAVE affected his on-field performance. I don't see how you could be concerned about Holt's health enought to knock him down but not Burress's.

 

[jasvic]

Another glaring one that I see is having Burress 4 spots AHEAD of Torry Holt. It seems Holt is falling hard for some reason in dynasty rankings, but the guy is still only 31 right now. But, even if age is a reason to drop him, Burress is only 1 year younger. If age isn't the reason, how else does Burress rank above Holt? I would under no circumstances ever consider wanting Plax over Torry. Ever.

I think it has more to do with the status of his knee rather than his age.

The same knee that made him miss ZERO games in 2007 and only let him catch 93 balls for 1189 yds and 7 TDs? There was a lot of talk about that knee in the preseason and he essentially went out and did what he always does on a God-awful Rams team. If there were concerns about his knee, I think those were mostly put to rest in 2007. There are no new reports that I know of that should raise new concerns. Personally, I think it was a lot of overblown media reporting.But, if you do believe in the knee being an issue, that's fine. However, it's not as if Plaxico is the epitome of health himself. He has had significantly more injuries and missed more time than Holt has and his injuries HAVE affected his on-field performance. I don't see how you could be concerned about Holt's health enought to knock him down but not Burress's.

Isn't Holt's knee condition supposedly degenerative? Also, after Manning's playoff run and believing he has turned the corner on his career would explain a big bump for Burress.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Another glaring one that I see is having Burress 4 spots AHEAD of Torry Holt. It seems Holt is falling hard for some reason in dynasty rankings, but the guy is still only 31 right now. But, even if age is a reason to drop him, Burress is only 1 year younger. If age isn't the reason, how else does Burress rank above Holt? I would under no circumstances ever consider wanting Plax over Torry. Ever.

I think it has more to do with the status of his knee rather than his age.

The same knee that made him miss ZERO games in 2007 and only let him catch 93 balls for 1189 yds and 7 TDs? There was a lot of talk about that knee in the preseason and he essentially went out and did what he always does on a God-awful Rams team. If there were concerns about his knee, I think those were mostly put to rest in 2007. There are no new reports that I know of that should raise new concerns. Personally, I think it was a lot of overblown media reporting.But, if you do believe in the knee being an issue, that's fine. However, it's not as if Plaxico is the epitome of health himself. He has had significantly more injuries and missed more time than Holt has and his injuries HAVE affected his on-field performance. I don't see how you could be concerned about Holt's health enought to knock him down but not Burress's.

I knew you had it in you.

 

[Donnybrook]

Another glaring one that I see is having Burress 4 spots AHEAD of Torry Holt. It seems Holt is falling hard for some reason in dynasty rankings, but the guy is still only 31 right now. But, even if age is a reason to drop him, Burress is only 1 year younger. If age isn't the reason, how else does Burress rank above Holt? I would under no circumstances ever consider wanting Plax over Torry. Ever.

I think it has more to do with the status of his knee rather than his age.

The same knee that made him miss ZERO games in 2007 and only let him catch 93 balls for 1189 yds and 7 TDs? There was a lot of talk about that knee in the preseason and he essentially went out and did what he always does on a God-awful Rams team. If there were concerns about his knee, I think those were mostly put to rest in 2007. There are no new reports that I know of that should raise new concerns. Personally, I think it was a lot of overblown media reporting.But, if you do believe in the knee being an issue, that's fine. However, it's not as if Plaxico is the epitome of health himself. He has had significantly more injuries and missed more time than Holt has and his injuries HAVE affected his on-field performance. I don't see how you could be concerned about Holt's health enought to knock him down but not Burress's.

Fair enough. I was thinking that the staff had more information than I do about Holt's knee. Holt himself will admit that his knee will never be a 100 %. I do think the Giants line can pass protect better than the Rams can and this may effect his value at least in the short term.

 

[Raider Nation]

Many are predicting it'll be LT who falls down at the 1 yard-line this season.

 

[renesauz]

Westbrook led the NFL in total yards last season, so it's not unreasonable to put him ahead of Tomlinson. Touchdowns are a lot harder to predict than yards, and Westbrook seems likely to be in the running for leading the league in yards from scrimmage again this year.

There are also some legitimate concerns about Tomlinson's health, what with the sprained MCL and the incredible workload LT's had thus far. He's got the most touches in NFL history through seven years.

I love Westy , and I can easily see the logic of putting him ahead of LT. LT is still #1 on my board, but not by enough to call anyone nuts for choosing Westbrook ahead of him!

 

[DWidmar]

Many are predicting it'll be LT who falls down at the 1 yard-line this season.

I was just starting to get over this and there you go fanning the smoldering flames.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Haseley is the one I assume you're talking about with Westy over LT. It doesn't make any sense at all. Pasquino and Haseley have some strange rankings. Blooms is the only one I agree with most of. It almost seems like they're trying to go out on a limb to do something different to not have the same rankings as everyone else.Once I see S.Jackson ranked 5 I usually stop paying attention to that person's rankings.

It almost seems like they're trying to go out on a limb to do something different to not have the same rankings as everyone else.From now on lets just called this the 'Mayock way of ranking'.Make crazy rankings and if it comes true, your the best. If it doesn't no one will remember.

If you are looking for people to go with the norm or consensus and think that if they do not resemble other rankings then they are "off", then why even look at rankings and just follow ADP.

 

[mdog1967]

Both RBs are virtually the same age.LT has since after his rookie year never finished below 3rd.Just two year removed and Westbrook was consider an injury plague RB that should be avoid, and because of injuries was thought to have a shorter career than a typical RB.Turner has left SD which should be a benefit for more of the load for LT.(not that he didnt get the full load anyways)Playing Washington,Dallas,and NYG twice a year concerns me more than playing Oakland, Denver, Kansas City when speaking against the run.I would say both players had on balance performances in the first half of their play as they did the second half.Point generation wise in the last 3 years SD has outproduce Eagles by about a total of 280 points.I am just curious under what logic Jeff Hasseley rates Brian Westbrook ahead of LT, or anyone else for that matter and why?I think its also questionable to why LT isn't #1 over AP, but since the default answer will be age. There isn't a real point to argue

LT2 was human at the start of the season last year, Steven Jackson was less than stellar as well for a while. As history has shown time and time again Running backs fall real, real quick from year to year. There was the A. Green surge after his Remarkable 20 TD season, Priest Holmes fell off the map overnight, Larry Johnson disappointed fantasy folks last year and ditto on Shaun Alexander. So before you get all wound up over FBG'S rankings this year keep in Mind that it isn’t a stretch to believe that LT, Westbrook and even Jackson could roll a big ol stink this year.As far as FBG's Rankings in general they have been pretty unremarkable and rather predictable for most years, so if the Staff finally gets some nuts and makes a few bold calls god bless them. I can do the CBS stinko rankings if Im looking for stat genrated garbage or just print out last years rankings from NFL .com.

 

[Ray Pollett]

In HP scoring with PPR Westy out scored LT last season. Lt has knee worries, and his great center is hurt and may miss the start of the season. So I have no problem with Westy being #1 and LT #2 in redraft.

In Dynasty AP is clearly now #1.

As to Holt and Plaxeco, Holt out scored Plaxeco by about 8 points in HP scoring with PPR. With his knee problems, possible coaching problems and the Revend gone, I can se Plaxeco ahead of Holt.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

LT2 was human at the start of the season last year

I think Chase will vouch for me that I said this after the first three weeks, and not just at the end of the season, but to me LT looked exactly the same in the first few weeks of 2007 as he did in all of 2006. He typically doesn't get a lot of yards when there is no hole and the defenders converge on him in the backfield. Not even in his record-breaking 2006 season. It was the OL that was different at the beginning of last year, not LT.I'm not saying he won't get old all of a sudden and be a stinker. It could even happen this year. But I wouldn't look to the beginning of the 2007 season for evidence of that. He hadn't slowed down or gotten old; he just had no blocking for a few weeks. (It wasn't the first time he had no blocking -- check out the 2005 game at PHI, or 2004 vs. NO, or 2004 at KC, etc. Nor will it be the last. It just happened to be strung together for a few games in a row at the beginning of 2007.)

 

[sheerterror]

Haseley is the one I assume you're talking about with Westy over LT. It doesn't make any sense at all. Pasquino and Haseley have some strange rankings. Blooms is the only one I agree with most of. It almost seems like they're trying to go out on a limb to do something different to not have the same rankings as everyone else.Once I see S.Jackson ranked 5 I usually stop paying attention to that person's rankings.

It almost seems like they're trying to go out on a limb to do something different to not have the same rankings as everyone else.From now on lets just called this the 'Mayock way of ranking'.Make crazy rankings and if it comes true, your the best. If it doesn't no one will remember.

Love the irony in this post - coming from the same person declaring Jonathan Stewart will be a FB in the NFL and, from a talent standpoint, will drop out of the first round. And you wonder why very few people take any of your posts seriously.

 

[Chase Stuart]

LT2 was human at the start of the season last year

I think Chase will vouch for me that I said this after the first three weeks, and not just at the end of the season, but to me LT looked exactly the same in the first few weeks of 2007 as he did in all of 2006. He typically doesn't get a lot of yards when there is no hole and the defenders converge on him in the backfield. Not even in his record-breaking 2006 season. It was the OL that was different at the beginning of last year, not LT.I'm not saying he won't get old all of a sudden and be a stinker. It could even happen this year. But I wouldn't look to the beginning of the 2007 season for evidence of that. He hadn't slowed down or gotten old; he just had no blocking for a few weeks. (It wasn't the first time he had no blocking -- check out the 2005 game at PHI, or 2004 vs. NO, or 2004 at KC, etc. Nor will it be the last. It just happened to be strung together for a few games in a row at the beginning of 2007.)

From a chat after week three this season:

Generally, yes. I don't think the stats tell much of the story. And as I was just going to say in the Shark Pool thread, three games is really a small sample. 77 carries sounds better than three games, but the carries within a particular game are not really independent events. Therefore, I think any analysis that focuses mostly on stats won't ultimately have much predictive value (although they may be interesting -- and there's more to life than predicting stuff)...Especially because he's running just as well this year as he did last year. When there's a hole, he accelerates through it. He stiff-arms people. He out-runs them to the corner. It's just that, most of the time, four tacklers have grabbed him as soon as he's touched the ball. He lost yardage in that situation last year as well. He doesn't look physically different to me...Against the Bears, they were just physically man-handled...I only watched the NE game once before erasing it. I've only watched the GB game once as well, but I still have it. It looks to me like opposing defenses are constantly getting perfectly-timed jumps on the ball. Like they always know the snap count. The Bears, Patriots, and Packers were all that way.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Westbrook led the NFL in total yards last season, so it's not unreasonable to put him ahead of Tomlinson. Touchdowns are a lot harder to predict than yards, and Westbrook seems likely to be in the running for leading the league in yards from scrimmage again this year.

There are also some legitimate concerns about Tomlinson's health, what with the sprained MCL and the incredible workload LT's had thus far. He's got the most touches in NFL history through seven years.

True, but he did just lose any REAL threat to steal touches from him. Unless the guy gets dinged, he's getting a huge load again this season.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

LT2 was human at the start of the season last year

I think Chase will vouch for me that I said this after the first three weeks, and not just at the end of the season, but to me LT looked exactly the same in the first few weeks of 2007 as he did in all of 2006. He typically doesn't get a lot of yards when there is no hole and the defenders converge on him in the backfield. Not even in his record-breaking 2006 season. It was the OL that was different at the beginning of last year, not LT.I'm not saying he won't get old all of a sudden and be a stinker. It could even happen this year. But I wouldn't look to the beginning of the 2007 season for evidence of that. He hadn't slowed down or gotten old; he just had no blocking for a few weeks. (It wasn't the first time he had no blocking -- check out the 2005 game at PHI, or 2004 vs. NO, or 2004 at KC, etc. Nor will it be the last. It just happened to be strung together for a few games in a row at the beginning of 2007.)

I'd also agree with this. He's ALWAYS been one where he can get just 2.2 yards per carry for a half then bam, break a long one and he's got a big game.However, there were some games where he didn't get that long one and it was a struggle for him. Like all running backs, the guy needs some blocking.When you know this and pretty much believe it, it's still mind boggling how sometimes year in and year out teams draft RB's when they have a poor offensive line, like that will now make the difference. Even LT2 needs to run behind someone. I'm not saying it's cool to have that fast, athletic running back, because it is but there are a lot more guys out there that can do the job at RB than there are at blocking well.

 

[JPeso]

Haseley is the one I assume you're talking about with Westy over LT. It doesn't make any sense at all. 1014 rushes vs. 2365 rushes. That alone is enough of an argument.

Pasquino and Haseley have some strange rankings. Rankings only seem strange to people who don't agree.

Comparing rankings are a difficult game in dynasty. So much of dynasty rankings depend on what you are looking to do now, what you looking to do later, etc. I know some owners who seemingly disregard the dynasty notion and draft much like a redraft. The way they see it, why not win this year, and then assess the age down the road? The rankings typically paint a nice picture of how a person weighs the now/later approach, and then also add in the talent assessment.

 

[Sabertooth]

Haseley is the one I assume you're talking about with Westy over LT. It doesn't make any sense at all. Pasquino and Haseley have some strange rankings. Blooms is the only one I agree with most of. It almost seems like they're trying to go out on a limb to do something different to not have the same rankings as everyone else.Once I see S.Jackson ranked 5 I usually stop paying attention to that person's rankings.

I like outside of the box rankings. I hate consensus. I'd like to hear their reasoning, but I respect those two as analysts.

 

[Sabertooth]

Another reason is that it is better to be a year early when devaluing a player than a year late.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Pasquino and Haseley have some strange rankings.

That's nothing....wait till you see mine. (ETA a week or so)

 

[Jedimaster21]

Haseley is the one I assume you're talking about with Westy over LT. It doesn't make any sense at all. Pasquino and Haseley have some strange rankings. Blooms is the only one I agree with most of. It almost seems like they're trying to go out on a limb to do something different to not have the same rankings as everyone else.Once I see S.Jackson ranked 5 I usually stop paying attention to that person's rankings.

It almost seems like they're trying to go out on a limb to do something different to not have the same rankings as everyone else.From now on lets just called this the 'Mayock way of ranking'.Make crazy rankings and if it comes true, your the best. If it doesn't no one will remember.

Love the irony in this post - coming from the same person declaring Jonathan Stewart will be a FB in the NFL and, from a talent standpoint, will drop out of the first round. And you wonder why very few people take any of your posts seriously.

You beat me to it...

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Some general comments (I probably should have my own FAQ, but here goes):

1. All rankings are subject to re-evaluation and interpretation.

2. I have LT2 at 2, Westbrook at 3, SJax at 5 - so I really don't apply to the first poster.

3. Regarding a comment such as "once I see Player X at Spot #N, I stop paying attention." That's myopic at best, condescending at the least. Guess what - if two people have SJax at #5, odds are that someone else in your league(s) feels the same way. If you have a different viewpoint, more power to you - and you also have a "buy low" opportunity for a player you think should be higher. (The converse is also true - "sell high" if you think a player is overranked).

4. I'll debate any and all of my rankings at any time (time and availability permitting). That's been a standing policy. If you think I should start a thread on that topic, that's fine - or just ask me to. I've changed several rankings over the years due to convincing arguments - not just loud and boisterous rants, but factual and intelligent reasoning - and I adjusted. When we / I do that, we / I all get better rankings.

5. I reserve the right to not do #4 and I'll tell you why if you ask (again, time permitting). Maybe you'll start to understand my reasoning and agree, or you still may remain unconvinced. At least you'll get to hear why I have that player where I do.

 

[TTCrusher]

Some general comments (I probably should have my own FAQ, but here goes):1. All rankings are subject to re-evaluation and interpretation.2. I have LT2 at 2, Westbrook at 3, SJax at 5 - so I really don't apply to the first poster.3. Regarding a comment such as "once I see Player X at Spot #N, I stop paying attention." That's myopic at best, condescending at the least. Guess what - if two people have SJax at #5, odds are that someone else in your league(s) feels the same way. If you have a different viewpoint, more power to you - and you also have a "buy low" opportunity for a player you think should be higher. (The converse is also true - "sell high" if you think a player is overranked).4. I'll debate any and all of my rankings at any time (time and availability permitting). That's been a standing policy. If you think I should start a thread on that topic, that's fine - or just ask me to. I've changed several rankings over the years due to convincing arguments - not just loud and boisterous rants, but factual and intelligent reasoning - and I adjusted. When we / I do that, we / I all get better rankings.5. I reserve the right to not do #4 and I'll tell you why if you ask (again, time permitting). Maybe you'll start to understand my reasoning and agree, or you still may remain unconvinced. At least you'll get to hear why I have that player where I do.

Are these Dynasty or ReDraft rankings you guys are discussing and where on the FBGy's site are the pre-2008 seasons ranking?Thanks!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Some general comments (I probably should have my own FAQ, but here goes):1. All rankings are subject to re-evaluation and interpretation.2. I have LT2 at 2, Westbrook at 3, SJax at 5 - so I really don't apply to the first poster.3. Regarding a comment such as "once I see Player X at Spot #N, I stop paying attention." That's myopic at best, condescending at the least. Guess what - if two people have SJax at #5, odds are that someone else in your league(s) feels the same way. If you have a different viewpoint, more power to you - and you also have a "buy low" opportunity for a player you think should be higher. (The converse is also true - "sell high" if you think a player is overranked).4. I'll debate any and all of my rankings at any time (time and availability permitting). That's been a standing policy. If you think I should start a thread on that topic, that's fine - or just ask me to. I've changed several rankings over the years due to convincing arguments - not just loud and boisterous rants, but factual and intelligent reasoning - and I adjusted. When we / I do that, we / I all get better rankings.5. I reserve the right to not do #4 and I'll tell you why if you ask (again, time permitting). Maybe you'll start to understand my reasoning and agree, or you still may remain unconvinced. At least you'll get to hear why I have that player where I do.

Are these Dynasty or ReDraft rankings you guys are discussing and where on the FBGy's site are the pre-2008 seasons ranking?Thanks!

Dynasty rankings.Available in both my signature and, more directly, on Footballguys.com on the Dynasty tab.

 

[Spike]

Some general comments (I probably should have my own FAQ, but here goes):1. All rankings are subject to re-evaluation and interpretation.2. I have LT2 at 2, Westbrook at 3, SJax at 5 - so I really don't apply to the first poster.3. Regarding a comment such as "once I see Player X at Spot #N, I stop paying attention." That's myopic at best, condescending at the least. Guess what - if two people have SJax at #5, odds are that someone else in your league(s) feels the same way. If you have a different viewpoint, more power to you - and you also have a "buy low" opportunity for a player you think should be higher. (The converse is also true - "sell high" if you think a player is overranked).4. I'll debate any and all of my rankings at any time (time and availability permitting). That's been a standing policy. If you think I should start a thread on that topic, that's fine - or just ask me to. I've changed several rankings over the years due to convincing arguments - not just loud and boisterous rants, but factual and intelligent reasoning - and I adjusted. When we / I do that, we / I all get better rankings.5. I reserve the right to not do #4 and I'll tell you why if you ask (again, time permitting). Maybe you'll start to understand my reasoning and agree, or you still may remain unconvinced. At least you'll get to hear why I have that player where I do.

I'm sorry, but that's too well-reasoned for many on this board!

 

[switz]

Haseley is the one I assume you're talking about with Westy over LT. It doesn't make any sense at all.

Look at where Westbrook has finished MOST of his career. Look at how many games he misses each season for MOST of his career.Then tell me that LT is a bigger risk.LT is still on a good team, whereas the Eagles are likely going to be starting a young QB at some point this season, who IMO hasn't shown much potential. They don't have any receivers, their OL is worse than SDs.Westbrook is overrated.

 

[Synthesizer]

Another reason is that it is better to be a year early when devaluing a player than a year late.

Too bad we don't know when that year will be.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Another reason is that it is better to be a year early when devaluing a player than a year late.

Too bad we don't know when that year will be.

Interesting topic. In general, I'd say it is relatively rare to be, say, three or four years too late in devaluing a player. Once an older player starts to play poorly, most people will jump off the bandwagon immediately instead of waiting for him to play poorly for several years in a row. (There may be exceptions. Not everybody jumped off the Shaun Alexander bandwagon after the 2006 season, for example. But in general, it is much easier to be three years too early than three years too late.)So let's say that LT will stink all of a sudden in any one of the next five years. If we're jumping off the bandwagon now instead of waiting, the question isn't "one year too early" versus "one year too late." It's "anywhere from one to five years too early" versus "one year too late."Is it better to be one to five years early when devaluing a player than a year late? I don't know, but I think that's a harder question than whether it's better to be a year early rather than a year late -- and also the more meaningful question.

 

[bigmurd]

I'm a new LT2 owner in a Dynasty (I paid 1.03, Cpalmer and Srice for LT2 and Asmith 49ers about 2 months ago). I have what I consider an excellent pool of RB's (ADP, LT2 and FWP being the standouts) and I been trying recently to trade LT2 for a decent young RB and young top WR talent (Fitz, Braylon, etc).

Unfortunately there is absolutely no market for this whatsoever. It's not as though no-one wants LT2, but the price has gone down considerably and I'm likely to keep him until the wheels come off as a result.

As someone pointed out earlier, LT2 and Westy are for all intents and purposes the same age. I don't think either guy is going to fall into the Sean Alexander category of running soft (because that's what he is doing; make no mistake) but neither is impervious to getting injured either; indeed Westbrook is if anything more 'injury prone'.

As someone who has never owner Westbrook, what are Westbrook's owners/ buyers experiencing out there? There's nothing like the real market to tell you where players rank.

 

[DWidmar]

I'm a new LT2 owner in a Dynasty (I paid 1.03, Cpalmer and Srice for LT2 and Asmith 49ers about 2 months ago). I have what I consider an excellent pool of RB's (ADP, LT2 and FWP being the standouts) and I been trying recently to trade LT2 for a decent young RB and young top WR talent (Fitz, Braylon, etc). Unfortunately there is absolutely no market for this whatsoever. It's not as though no-one wants LT2, but the price has gone down considerably and I'm likely to keep him until the wheels come off as a result. As someone pointed out earlier, LT2 and Westy are for all intents and purposes the same age. I don't think either guy is going to fall into the Sean Alexander category of running soft (because that's what he is doing; make no mistake) but neither is impervious to getting injured either; indeed Westbrook is if anything more 'injury prone'.As someone who has never owner Westbrook, what are Westbrook's owners/ buyers experiencing out there? There's nothing like the real market to tell you where players rank.

I traded LT last year and there was a huge market for him. The owner who has him is trying to trade him and is finding no market for him so he is keeping him as you are.I own Westbrook and have been shopping him because of his age and I have found no takers. Looks like I will be keeping him until the wheels come off. Best case scenario is that Hunt takes over and I still have that running back situation on my team.

 

[The Rook]

where am i missing the latest off season projections?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

where am i missing the latest off season projections?

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