Undervalued Dynasty WRs (1 Viewer)

[bengalbuck]

There are only a handful of guys at each position that are so talented that they are almost guaranteed to put up big numbers each year and they’re usually pretty easy to spot (Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, etc.). The real key in my opinion is finding guys in the next tier that have enough talent that they can put up big fantasy numbers, but only if they end up in a good situation. Here are some WRs who I think have the talent and could potentially end up in better situations next season that are worth trading for in dynasty leagues with late trade deadlines:

1. Austin Collie is a guy who has fallen off the map without Peyton. Next year, he is almost guaranteed to have either Manning or (more likely) Andrew Luck. If Luck’s the guy, you’d have to think the Colts think about going young a bit and FA Reggie Wayne isn’t likely to be in their plans (and he may want a contender not a rebuild even if the Colts do want him back). Pierre Garcon is also a FA, though more likely to come back. Basically, Collie has a very good chance to be Luck’s #1 or #2 WR (and a reception magnet) for a long time and if Luck is as good as many think, he could end up a fantasy WR1 or 2.

2. Santonio Holmes has a lot of talent. Greg Cosell has said he’s top 5 in the league at WR in talent due to the separation he is able to gain. Obviously with Sanchez and the run first game plan, he has pretty limited value right now. But both the OC and Sanchez could be playing for their futures. If a guy like Peyton Manning becomes available this offseason, I’d bet the Jets would be all over him and they’d be an attractive destination for him if he is choosing. Plus who knows what the future holds for FA Plaxico Burress? Again, another guy who if the cards fall right, could be a WR1.

3. Marques Colston is another guy who has proven that he can be a top 10 talent, but his value has really fallen due to injuries and everyone wanting the “next big thing” which leads to a somewhat boring guy like Colston falling in drafts and in perceived value. Obviously his knee injuries are worrisome, but his situation and talent make him a good gamble at his current prices. Robert Meachem is a FA and I doubt the Saints go out of their way to re-sign him which opens up even more opportunity for Colston going forward. Regardless of Meachem, if Colston is even close to fully healthy next year, he’s a fantasy WR1 in his prime years age-wise on one of the most consistent passing offenses in the league. I think a lot of owners see him as being at the end of his career and some "rebuilding" owners are shopping him for young guys that aren't nearly as talented as he is.

4. Desean Jackson looks to me like he could use a change of scenery. When you look at the contracts that guys like Sidney Rice and Santonio Holmes got a couple months ago, it becomes pretty clear that a WR-needy franchise is going to give him a very big contract (likely to be their #1 WR) this March. DJax has shown he has WR1 or high WR2 talent from the second he stepped on the field. The question to me is whether Andy Reid has helped or hurt his fantasy value. Looking at Philly’s history of really spreading the ball around and never having a consistent go-to guy at WR, I suspect he has the potential to catch a lot more balls and be much more consistent from a fantasy perspective on another team. He’s dirt cheap right now and it never hurts to add a young guy with a boatload of talent to your dynasty roster. What if he ends up with the Shanahans in Washington as the #1 WR with a guy like Barkley or Robert Griffin at QB? In my opinion, there are realistic scenarios that make him much more valuable that aren't being factored into the equation when looking at his overall trade value.

5. Brandon Lloyd is another guy who can be acquired pretty cheap who has the potential to be a fantasy WR1 if he lands in a good spot as a FA. His best bet may actually be to re-sign with the Rams. If the Rams can fix their OL this offseason (Matt Kalil at LT would be a great start) and just get some guys (Bradford, Saffold, Amendola, etc.) healthy, they are a team that could go from fantasy wasteland to very productive very quickly. And we’ve already seen that Lloyd has the talent in this offensive system (and with a worse QB) to put up gigantic fantasy numbers. Like Colston, he's not young and there is also a bit of a perception that he's a 1 year wonder. But he can be had for a song from rebuilding owners who see his age and lack of production this year and will take whatever they can get for him. He could still be a great player for 3+ seasons if he ends up on the right team with an OC/QB who believe in him.

Disclaimer: Just because I think these guys all have the potential to be top 15 WRs (or higher) in the medium term doesn't mean I'd pay that price for them. I just think they are attractive in large part because they have that potential (and decent floors as well) and can be had in most leagues at a relatively low price.

Any other guys who fit this mold? Any major disagreements with these 5?

 

[Shutout]

I like your list and your thoughts about them, especially Holmes. I really think that on any team where they would really throw the ball, Holmes would be a top 10-12 WR. It is almost criminal that the Jets have literally not thrown the ball more than 35 yards on a play all season. With a different philosophy or ,for him, a different team, he can be much more effective.

DJAX, I dunno. I always want to put him on my teams but he seems like a one trick pony; he is either going to have that game where he gets the bomb or he does little. I think in today's NFL, as a fantasy owner, the mid-range chains movers are more attractive in terms of consistency. And if you have one that is big and physical, its gravy. That's why I think guys like Buress and Fitz and potentially a guy like manningham could be such weapons if they are in the right situations with the right teammates.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Steve Smith Philly....

There is no way he is in philly's plans for the long term as they signed him to a one year contract and he has failed to see the field in this scheme even with injuries to their top WR guys.

Smith is not himself as of yet but he will be going on year 2 of being fully recovered from his microfracture surgery to start next year. At 26 he is young enough and good enough to land a starting spot in the slot some where and help contribute in fantasy. He is 2 years removed from a 100 catch season and is still only 26 years old. He runs great routes and is sure handed. It will be interesting to see his landing spot this off season.

Also, he can be had for dirt cheap I am guessing in dynasty and or keeper leagues.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

There are only a handful of guys at each position that are so talented that they are almost guaranteed to put up big numbers each year and they’re usually pretty easy to spot (Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, etc.). The real key in my opinion is finding guys in the next tier that have enough talent that they can put up big fantasy numbers, but only if they end up in a good situation. Here are some WRs who I think have the talent and could potentially end up in better situations next season that are worth trading for in dynasty leagues with late trade deadlines:

1. Austin Collie is a guy who has fallen off the map without Peyton. Next year, he is almost guaranteed to have either Manning or (more likely) Andrew Luck. If Luck’s the guy, you’d have to think the Colts think about going young a bit and FA Reggie Wayne isn’t likely to be in their plans (and he may want a contender not a rebuild even if the Colts do want him back). Pierre Garcon is also a FA, though more likely to come back. Basically, Collie has a very good chance to be Luck’s #1 or #2 WR (and a reception magnet) for a long time and if Luck is as good as many think, he could end up a fantasy WR1 or 2.

2. Santonio Holmes has a lot of talent. Greg Cosell has said he’s top 5 in the league at WR in talent due to the separation he is able to gain. Obviously with Sanchez and the run first game plan, he has pretty limited value right now. But both the OC and Sanchez could be playing for their futures. If a guy like Peyton Manning becomes available this offseason, I’d bet the Jets would be all over him and they’d be an attractive destination for him if he is choosing. Plus who knows what the future holds for FA Plaxico Burress? Again, another guy who if the cards fall right, could be a WR1.

3. Marques Colston is another guy who has proven that he can be a top 10 talent, but his value has really fallen due to injuries and everyone wanting the “next big thing” which leads to a somewhat boring guy like Colston falling in drafts and in perceived value. Obviously his knee injuries are worrisome, but his situation and talent make him a good gamble at his current prices. Robert Meachem is a FA and I doubt the Saints go out of their way to re-sign him which opens up even more opportunity for Colston going forward. Regardless of Meachem, if Colston is even close to fully healthy next year, he’s a fantasy WR1 in his prime years age-wise on one of the most consistent passing offenses in the league. I think a lot of owners see him as being at the end of his career and some "rebuilding" owners are shopping him for young guys that aren't nearly as talented as he is.

4. Desean Jackson looks to me like he could use a change of scenery. When you look at the contracts that guys like Sidney Rice and Santonio Holmes got a couple months ago, it becomes pretty clear that a WR-needy franchise is going to give him a very big contract (likely to be their #1 WR) this March. DJax has shown he has WR1 or high WR2 talent from the second he stepped on the field. The question to me is whether Andy Reid has helped or hurt his fantasy value. Looking at Philly’s history of really spreading the ball around and never having a consistent go-to guy at WR, I suspect he has the potential to catch a lot more balls and be much more consistent from a fantasy perspective on another team. He’s dirt cheap right now and it never hurts to add a young guy with a boatload of talent to your dynasty roster. What if he ends up with the Shanahans in Washington as the #1 WR with a guy like Barkley or Robert Griffin at QB? In my opinion, there are realistic scenarios that make him much more valuable that aren't being factored into the equation when looking at his overall trade value.

5. Brandon Lloyd is another guy who can be acquired pretty cheap who has the potential to be a fantasy WR1 if he lands in a good spot as a FA. His best bet may actually be to re-sign with the Rams. If the Rams can fix their OL this offseason (Matt Kalil at LT would be a great start) and just get some guys (Bradford, Saffold, Amendola, etc.) healthy, they are a team that could go from fantasy wasteland to very productive very quickly. And we’ve already seen that Lloyd has the talent in this offensive system (and with a worse QB) to put up gigantic fantasy numbers. Like Colston, he's not young and there is also a bit of a perception that he's a 1 year wonder. But he can be had for a song from rebuilding owners who see his age and lack of production this year and will take whatever they can get for him. He could still be a great player for 3+ seasons if he ends up on the right team with an OC/QB who believe in him.

Disclaimer: Just because I think these guys all have the potential to be top 15 WRs (or higher) in the medium term doesn't mean I'd pay that price for them. I just think they are attractive in large part because they have that potential (and decent floors as well) and can be had in most leagues at a relatively low price.

Any other guys who fit this mold? Any major disagreements with these 5?

Could not agree more with this

 

[Concept Coop]

Eric Decker

Miles Austin

Brandon Marshall (I think he has at least one 2010 Roddy White season in the next 3 years)

 

[squistion]

I'll agree with Jackson and Lloyd. Owners are a little soured on DeSean and I can see a bounce back year depending on where he lands. Lloyd is averaging about 15-16 points in PPR leagues the last 4 weeks and seems simpatico with Bradford, the Rams would be foolish not to resign him.

Colsten may have a few good years left in him, but the annual knee surgeries plus the competition for targets in NO puts him on my avoid list. Holmes has been a fantasy tease for years and things just don't seem to break right for him - perhaps that will change but I will let someone else take a flyer.

I thought Collie was overvalued in August based on his concussion history. I think that the recent problems with Jahvid Best lends credence to the belief that if one has had a past serious concussion they are more likely to in the future (although it is disputed by some in the medical field). Collie has Top 10 upside but IMO is one serious head blow/concussion away from ending his career. It may never happen or it may happen next week - in any event this is a player (like Best) that I am content to let someone else roll the dice on.

 

[forbidden doughnut]

We have pretty deep rosters and our league makes very few trades. I'm currently looking for roster stashes and got to thinking about Gettis for the Panthers. Love to hear any thoughts you guys have on him or any other stashes.

 

[SWC]

i think jerome simson is a pretty good player with some decent upside who has been really kicking it up a notch bam in the last few weeks and might end up taking it to the bank for a lot of fantasy team owners but only for the cin bengals in real life where he is under contract

 

[ThePittbully]

Even though he's pretty high in most scoring formats right now, I'd say Victor Cruz. I think you can get him much cheaper than the actual value he has. Also I agree with Brandon Lloyd and Steve Smith of the Eagles.

 

[nickdiesel]

Danny Amendola: on IR right now, but should return as good as new next year, and with Lloyd taking the deep threats and the double teams, the slot in st louis may be a gold mine next season.

 

[todisco1]

I'll add a couple of guys who are a bit lower, but are producing decent numbers.

Early Doucet - as a #3 WR, you could do much worse. Doucet has been incredibly consistent, putting up double digit pts in 8 of 10 games in ppr. Right now he's a decent #3, and though he doesn't have the upside of players mentioned earlier, he's a guy I'd feel comfortable plugging in as my 3rd or 4th WR (provided Zona doesn't get another high profile WR to pair with Fitzy, which is a possibility).

Laurent Robinson - how long is he signed for in Dallas? He looks like a starter right now.

 

[saintfool]

3. Marques Colston is another guy who has proven that he can be a top 10 talent, but his value has really fallen due to injuries and everyone wanting the “next big thing” which leads to a somewhat boring guy like Colston falling in drafts and in perceived value. Obviously his knee injuries are worrisome, but his situation and talent make him a good gamble at his current prices. Robert Meachem is a FA and I doubt the Saints go out of their way to re-sign him which opens up even more opportunity for Colston going forward. Regardless of Meachem, if Colston is even close to fully healthy next year, he’s a fantasy WR1 in his prime years age-wise on one of the most consistent passing offenses in the league. I think a lot of owners see him as being at the end of his career and some "rebuilding" owners are shopping him for young guys that aren't nearly as talented as he is.

The problem with Colston is not Meachem or the other WRs. It's that he's been usurped as a TD target in favor of other targets - namely Graham. He is still a favorite target of Brees but he's not the go-to guy any longer. The offense has simply changed. I think Meachem will be retained but they are not going to overpay to keep him.

 

[Banemorth]

Antonio Brown is a star in the making mark my words.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Jacoby Ford. He has fallen off the map due to injuries this year, but whenever he is healthy and on the field he is pure electric.

 

[GManiac]

I never have and never will want or trust DJax. I think he is a severely overrated WR, especially in Keeper or Dynasty leagues. Give me Maclin any day.

Overlooked guys.

Demaryius Thomas, Gregg Little, Leonard Hankerson, Benn, Torrey Smith. And the guys mentioned by the poster, except for DJax.

 

[FantasyTrader]

Very good list, well thought out. The only one I'd disagree with is DeSean. I don't think he's a #1 WR. He actually has a very mundane reception ratio. I don't watch enough of the Eagles to say for sure, but I've heard reports that he's actually not a very disciplined route runner at all. He's easily one of the top 5 WR's in the league with the ball in his hands (but it's all of the things the great NFL WR's do before they get the ball in their hands that he struggles with).

I'm not exaggerating that I'd rather have up-n-comers like Denarius Moore and Antonio Brown than DeSean. And I'll admit that maybe I'm selling the guy short. He can still improve in the areas he lacks.

 

[GManiac]

Very good list, well thought out. The only one I'd disagree with is DeSean. I don't think he's a #1 WR. He actually has a very mundane reception ratio. I don't watch enough of the Eagles to say for sure, but I've heard reports that he's actually not a very disciplined route runner at all. He's easily one of the top 5 WR's in the league with the ball in his hands (but it's all of the things the great NFL WR's do before they get the ball in their hands that he struggles with).

I'm not exaggerating that I'd rather have up-n-comers like Denarius Moore and Antonio Brown than DeSean. And I'll admit that maybe I'm selling the guy short. He can still improve in the areas he lacks.

Nah. You are dead on about DeSean. One of the most overrated WR in the league. I have seen owners give up way too much in Dynasty leagues trading for DJax. And it has never proved helpful to their team. Each team that has done so is at the bottom of the standings. I have even tried telling this to the owners doing so and always got yelled at to mind my own business. I just hate to see owners get suckered into to trading for DJax.

 

[bengalbuck]

Thanks to all for the feedback.

Eric Decker

Miles Austin

Brandon Marshall (I think he has at least one 2010 Roddy White season in the next 3 years)

I tried not to include guys like Decker who are "ascending" on this list. I definitely think finding young guys you believe in and "overpaying" their current owner is a way to potentially get value if the guy is the real deal. But most Decker owners probably aren't selling too low. Austin and Marshall are possibilities, but both would still take a pretty big offer to get (or at least much more than the 5 guys I listed). I'm a Marshall owner and value him for his consistency in PPR, but I don't see the TDs (and he's had many opportunities this year) for him to ever have a 12+ TD type season.

i think jerome simson is a pretty good player with some decent upside who has been really kicking it up a notch bam in the last few weeks and might end up taking it to the bank for a lot of fantasy team owners but only for the cin bengals in real life where he is under contract

As a Bengals fan I go back and forth on Simpson weekly from a real football perspective. Most weeks I want the Bengals to let him walk and draft a new #2 WR early in the draft. Other weeks he makes big plays and looks like he's going to put it all together. Overall, I think he frustrates the hell out of his coaches, Andy Dalton and Bengals fans because the talent is obvious but he still makes 1 or 2 WTF plays a game where he quits on a route (leading to an INT each of the past 2 weeks) or has a big drop (lost the Denver game this year with a 4th down drop when he was wide open). I wouldn't be shocked if this was the best year of his career from a numbers perspective and I wouldn't be shocked if he became a bigtime player either. Probably worth the risk if you can get him cheap.

Danny Amendola: on IR right now, but should return as good as new next year, and with Lloyd taking the deep threats and the double teams, the slot in st louis may be a gold mine next season.

That's a good name. Probably not WR1 upside, but definitely strong WR2 upside and likely pretty cheap right now.

Antonio Brown is a star in the making mark my words.

I love Antonio Brown and own him in most my leagues. However, I wouldn't give him up for anything but a great offer and I get the sense that most of his owners feel the same way. If he truly takes the next step in his career, he could be undervalued, but a tough guy to trade for.

Very good list, well thought out. The only one I'd disagree with is DeSean. I don't think he's a #1 WR. He actually has a very mundane reception ratio. I don't watch enough of the Eagles to say for sure, but I've heard reports that he's actually not a very disciplined route runner at all. He's easily one of the top 5 WR's in the league with the ball in his hands (but it's all of the things the great NFL WR's do before they get the ball in their hands that he struggles with).

I'm not exaggerating that I'd rather have up-n-comers like Denarius Moore and Antonio Brown than DeSean. And I'll admit that maybe I'm selling the guy short. He can still improve in the areas he lacks.

I agree with you about Moore and Brown over DJax, but I'm not even talking about those types of talents. (I turned down an offer of DJax and a 3rd for A. Brown). But here's the type of value I'm currently seeing him go forJax was traded straight up for Jon Baldwin in one of my leagues. And its a league that gives 1 pt. per 20 return yards...

In another league I'm in, he was traded along with Frank Gore for FJax and Crabtree. It gets a bit complicated with the RBs involved, but it looks to me like at the very least his previous owner valued him equally to Crabtree...

In my opinion, DJax's value has hit some extremely low levels. One of those cases where the hate for him from fantasy owners (which seems almost universal) has just gone too far.

My main point is that you might be able to get him for way, way less than you think if his owner is as frustrated with him (and all the single digit games he's had) as many seem to be. He's worth a flyer in my opinion if you can get him for the right price. I'm not saying you should give up a talented young player of the caliber of Moore or Brown, but I don't think that's what it would take to get him. I like him in part because I suspect that he can be more than just a deep threat if he ends up in the right offensive system.

Again, thanks to all for the feedback. My main point in this is that as dynasty owners we sometimes get too caught up in the short term of current production and if we step back and look at the big picture, sometimes a bargain can be spotted. Guys with talent can be grabbed when their values are at extreme lows. After FA and the draft play out in March/April and these guys end up with different QBs, coaches and competition for catches, it may be too late to get them cheap.

Chances seem pretty slim their values can get too much lower after FA/draft plays out, so there's not much risk. And the reward is potentially high if one of these 5 finds himself in a better situation. It's like buying a 6 month option on a very risky stock for next to nothing.

 

[shnikies]

Earl Bennett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buy now for next year. The Bears do whatever they can every year not to bring in an elite receiver so he has a chance to be the #1 next year.

 

[the_sig]

In one of my competitive 14 team ppr dynasties, an owner with bye issues cut Collie. I was shocked. Didn't figure it was likely I'd get him with #14 waiver priority, but I got him. Most of these other owners are all fbg's...surprised none wanted to stash him. I think he is a great stash, but wanted to post this to show just how low his value is.

 

[DoubleG]

i think jerome simson is a pretty good player with some decent upside who has been really kicking it up a notch bam in the last few weeks and might end up taking it to the bank for a lot of fantasy team owners but only for the cin bengals in real life where he is under contract

I agree with this. For a guy that has 3 - 100 yard games already this year, closed last season with 2 100+ yard efforts, is only 25 and has a young and developing QB throwing to him, it's amazing that he might even still be on the WW in some leagues (I just added him 2 weeks ago).The continual development of Dalton can only help Simpson. I realize AJ is the #1 - but that is exactly why Simpson can be a good contributer. If Dalton continues to develop, there is no reason the Bengals offense can't support 2 FF WRs - AJ a #1 and Simpson at least solid WR3 moving forward.

 

[Captain Hook]

There are only a handful of guys at each position that are so talented that they are almost guaranteed to put up big numbers each year and they’re usually pretty easy to spot (Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, etc.). The real key in my opinion is finding guys in the next tier that have enough talent that they can put up big fantasy numbers, but only if they end up in a good situation. Here are some WRs who I think have the talent and could potentially end up in better situations next season that are worth trading for in dynasty leagues with late trade deadlines:

1. Austin Collie is a guy who has fallen off the map without Peyton. Next year, he is almost guaranteed to have either Manning or (more likely) Andrew Luck. If Luck’s the guy, you’d have to think the Colts think about going young a bit and FA Reggie Wayne isn’t likely to be in their plans (and he may want a contender not a rebuild even if the Colts do want him back). Pierre Garcon is also a FA, though more likely to come back. Basically, Collie has a very good chance to be Luck’s #1 or #2 WR (and a reception magnet) for a long time and if Luck is as good as many think, he could end up a fantasy WR1 or 2.

Any other guys who fit this mold? Any major disagreements with these 5?

I like your list but disagree with Collie because he is just one hit away from permanent time off - very risky unless you can acquire him for nothing - which might be possible this year

 

[Captain Hook]

In one of my competitive 14 team ppr dynasties, an owner with bye issues cut Collie. I was shocked. Didn't figure it was likely I'd get him with #14 waiver priority, but I got him. Most of these other owners are all fbg's...surprised none wanted to stash him. I think he is a great stash, but wanted to post this to show just how low his value is.

I also felt that Briscoe or Parker might have more value next year

 

[squistion]

In one of my competitive 14 team ppr dynasties, an owner with bye issues cut Collie. I was shocked. Didn't figure it was likely I'd get him with #14 waiver priority, but I got him. Most of these other owners are all fbg's...surprised none wanted to stash him. I think he is a great stash, but wanted to post this to show just how low his value is.

Hard to say if that is representative as he is still owned in all 6 leagues I am in (with me owning him in two of those). I am dealing with a small sample size too, so he may indeed be waiver wire fodder is most leagues, although my feeling is that those that jumped aboard the Collie bandwagon earlier in the year are reluctant to get off as long as it appears that Peyton will be back eventually.

 

[Captain Hook]

Steve Smith ......back to New York Giants next year

Fixed

 

[GManiac]

In one of my competitive 14 team ppr dynasties, an owner with bye issues cut Collie. I was shocked. Didn't figure it was likely I'd get him with #14 waiver priority, but I got him. Most of these other owners are all fbg's...surprised none wanted to stash him. I think he is a great stash, but wanted to post this to show just how low his value is.

I also felt that Briscoe or Parker might have more value next year

I think it will be Benn not Briscoe in TB.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Earl Bennett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Buy now for next year. The Bears do whatever they can every year not to bring in an elite receiver so he has a chance to be the #1 next year.

Instead of ignore, is there any way I can put a follow on Shnikies?

 

[Team Legacy]

In one of my competitive 14 team ppr dynasties, an owner with bye issues cut Collie. I was shocked. Didn't figure it was likely I'd get him with #14 waiver priority, but I got him. Most of these other owners are all fbg's...surprised none wanted to stash him. I think he is a great stash, but wanted to post this to show just how low his value is.

Hard to say if that is representative as he is still owned in all 6 leagues I am in (with me owning him in two of those). I am dealing with a small sample size too, so he may indeed be waiver wire fodder is most leagues, although my feeling is that those that jumped aboard the Collie bandwagon earlier in the year are reluctant to get off as long as it appears that Peyton will be back eventually.

depends on roster size 18?

 

[squistion]

In one of my competitive 14 team ppr dynasties, an owner with bye issues cut Collie. I was shocked. Didn't figure it was likely I'd get him with #14 waiver priority, but I got him. Most of these other owners are all fbg's...surprised none wanted to stash him. I think he is a great stash, but wanted to post this to show just how low his value is.

Hard to say if that is representative as he is still owned in all 6 leagues I am in (with me owning him in two of those). I am dealing with a small sample size too, so he may indeed be waiver wire fodder is most leagues, although my feeling is that those that jumped aboard the Collie bandwagon earlier in the year are reluctant to get off as long as it appears that Peyton will be back eventually.

depends on roster size 18?

That is probably ballpark.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Antonio Brown is a star in the making mark my words.

I love Antonio Brown and own him in most my leagues. However, I wouldn't give him up for anything but a great offer and I get the sense that most of his owners feel the same way. If he truly takes the next step in his career, he could be undervalued, but a tough guy to trade for.

Yeah, I think it's too late to get Brown now. I'm kicking myself for not going after him after Week 1. You could see right away this guy's a player.

 

[BeTheMatch]

We have pretty deep rosters and our league makes very few trades. I'm currently looking for roster stashes and got to thinking about Gettis for the Panthers. Love to hear any thoughts you guys have on him or any other stashes.

Brandon LaFell is a guy I've been targeting. I still don't see how Naanee starts over him. Most times I've watched, LaFell has really stood out with his ability in limited action. I think he's a guy with a big upside.

 

[thatguy]

Percy Harvin. My guess is you can get him for relatively cheap right now, but I think it's only a matter of time before he blows up. Top 10 potential as early as next season.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

We have pretty deep rosters and our league makes very few trades. I'm currently looking for roster stashes and got to thinking about Gettis for the Panthers. Love to hear any thoughts you guys have on him or any other stashes.

Brandon LaFell is a guy I've been targeting. I still don't see how Naanee starts over him. Most times I've watched, LaFell has really stood out with his ability in limited action. I think he's a guy with a big upside.

Agreed completely... He did the same thing last year. when people talk about him on here I have a feeling they didnt actually watch him play. they would just say he drops balls and blah blah blah. Kid is a player if he gets the opportunity

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Percy Harvin. My guess is you can get him for relatively cheap right now, but I think it's only a matter of time before he blows up. Top 10 potential as early as next season.

High on Ponder? Just curious. I've been rather impressed, the little bit I've seen.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Jon Baldwin. Still a lot of negative opinions out there after his preseason. Add in the fact that only one of his big plays has counted so far,and I think he can still be had very cheap.

Baldwin has made fantastic big plays in both of the games following his week 8 breakout game, but both have been called back by penalties.

IMO his talent level is elite, and once he really learns how to play the position, he'll be a force.

 

[SWC]

how about that guy from pitsberg who is slowly taking hines ward spot and who i cant remember the name of he is small and like mike wallace and really quick but not a dancing star like hines ward

 

[hines]

Earl Bennett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Buy now for next year. The Bears do whatever they can every year not to bring in an elite receiver so he has a chance to be the #1 next year.

Instead of ignore, is there any way I can put a follow on Shnikies?

Bennett has been there for years and been nothing but a slot receiver. terrible receivers always are ahead of him, why would that change?

 

[Sabertooth]

I like Eric Decker as a buy low right now. His situation is about as bleak as possible, but he's got talent as he showed with Orton.

I also like Mike Thomas quite a bit. That situation is going to improve.

 

[Xue]

I'd stay away from any Panthers WR not named Steve Smith. A few mock drafts have them drafting Blackmon next year.

 

[bengalbuck]

I like Eric Decker as a buy low right now. His situation is about as bleak as possible, but he's got talent as he showed with Orton. I also like Mike Thomas quite a bit. That situation is going to improve.

I don't see much hope for Mike Thomas. Gabbert just does not look like a good QB to me but due to where he was drafted, he's going to get a few years. Plus, they'll end up blaming his struggles on lack of weapons and try to upgrade his WRs...I can't imagine him ever being more than a WR3 in the next few years. But I guess this is how trades get made. If I owned Thomas, I'd sell him for whatever I could get. Other people seem to feel the same about guys like DJax and Collie and I'd be there ready to buy on those guys.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

I'd stay away from any Panthers WR not named Steve Smith. A few mock drafts have them drafting Blackmon next year.

Well, if they draft Blackmon...clearly Lafell's career is out the window lol

 

[thatguy]

Percy Harvin. My guess is you can get him for relatively cheap right now, but I think it's only a matter of time before he blows up. Top 10 potential as early as next season.

High on Ponder? Just curious. I've been rather impressed, the little bit I've seen.

Yeah, I like Ponder a lot.

 

[the_sig]

In one of my competitive 14 team ppr dynasties, an owner with bye issues cut Collie. I was shocked. Didn't figure it was likely I'd get him with #14 waiver priority, but I got him. Most of these other owners are all fbg's...surprised none wanted to stash him. I think he is a great stash, but wanted to post this to show just how low his value is.

Hard to say if that is representative as he is still owned in all 6 leagues I am in (with me owning him in two of those). I am dealing with a small sample size too, so he may indeed be waiver wire fodder is most leagues, although my feeling is that those that jumped aboard the Collie bandwagon earlier in the year are reluctant to get off as long as it appears that Peyton will be back eventually.

depends on roster size 18?

That is probably ballpark.

Roster size is 20, with 2 IR slots. I think 290 or so are rostered.

 

[GManiac]

I like Eric Decker as a buy low right now. His situation is about as bleak as possible, but he's got talent as he showed with Orton. I also like Mike Thomas quite a bit. That situation is going to improve.

As long as Tebow is starting I think every Bronco WR gets downgraded. But for the long haul I still like Demaryius Thomas to be the man in Denver. Comes down to health with him really. He certainly has the pedigree. When given a chance last year he did very well in limited time, same with this year. If he plays regularly he is a superior talent. Now the difference between an Orton led Denver and a Tebow led Denver is huge. I think it downgrades what would be a WR 2 or WR 3 to a WR 4 almost. But once Denver gets their QB in order I prefer Thomas. But I do think Decker could also be very good for fantasy purposes and could see an Austin/Bryant, White/Jones type situation. I also think Mike Thomas and Benn in TB will turn into a two headed beast so to speak. Its also possible in KC. All though KC, TB and Denver need to get their QB and Olines in order if these WR are too take off in any real way.

 

[the_sig]

In one of my competitive 14 team ppr dynasties, an owner with bye issues cut Collie. I was shocked. Didn't figure it was likely I'd get him with #14 waiver priority, but I got him. Most of these other owners are all fbg's...surprised none wanted to stash him. I think he is a great stash, but wanted to post this to show just how low his value is.

I also felt that Briscoe or Parker might have more value next year

I understand you had your reasons for cutting him Cap'n....In that MOX league I have no 2012 picks, so I'm hoping one or two of Collie, Amendola, PHI SSmith or Earl Bennett can be a contributor next year.

 

[loose circuits]

i think jerome simson is a pretty good player with some decent upside who has been really kicking it up a notch bam in the last few weeks and might end up taking it to the bank for a lot of fantasy team owners but only for the cin bengals in real life where he is under contract

I agree with this. For a guy that has 3 - 100 yard games already this year, closed last season with 2 100+ yard efforts, is only 25 and has a young and developing QB throwing to him, it's amazing that he might even still be on the WW in some leagues (I just added him 2 weeks ago).The continual development of Dalton can only help Simpson. I realize AJ is the #1 - but that is exactly why Simpson can be a good contributer. If Dalton continues to develop, there is no reason the Bengals offense can't support 2 FF WRs - AJ a #1 and Simpson at least solid WR3 moving forward.

are we to assume the Feds won't eventually bring charges on the 7 lbs of pot they found in his house? Is the "I was just holding it for somebody else" defense going to work?

 

[sycamore]

I'd stay away from any Panthers WR not named Steve Smith. A few mock drafts have them drafting Blackmon next year.

Just keep in mind that Steve Smith's elite production comes to an end within a year or 2.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I'd stay away from any Panthers WR not named Steve Smith. A few mock drafts have them drafting Blackmon next year.

Just keep in mind that Steve Smith's elite production comes to an end within a year or 2.

Maybe. If he stays healthy, he doesn't NEED his elite speed to stay an elite fantasy option. Volume of catches could keep him relevant in fantasy. The old "quantity over quality" thing, especially in PPR. For instance, look how Santana Moss has transitioned from a deep threat role the first 6-7 years of his career, to more of a possession, 90+ catch guy the past few years.

 

[sycamore]

I'd stay away from any Panthers WR not named Steve Smith. A few mock drafts have them drafting Blackmon next year.

Just keep in mind that Steve Smith's elite production comes to an end within a year or 2.

Maybe. If he stays healthy, he doesn't NEED his elite speed to stay an elite fantasy option. Volume of catches could keep him relevant in fantasy. The old "quantity over quality" thing, especially in PPR. For instance, look how Santana Moss has transitioned from a deep threat role the first 6-7 years of his career, to more of a possession, 90+ catch guy the past few years.

True. Newton helps Smith's career stay somewhat stable for a few more years, but I still feel like there's room for a third receiver to be relevant in the next couple years.

 

[WFR]

Titus Young - Rookie 2nd Rd draft pick that's opposite of Calvin and is averaging 13 yds/reception and has 2 TD's.

Randall Cobb - Rookie 2nd Rd draft pick with Aaron Rodgers throwing to him. Is averaging 15.6 yds/reception and 1 TD. He just missed a sure TD yesterday and also returns punts.

Vincent Brown - Rookie 3rd Rd pick with Phillip Rivers tossing him the ball. Malcolm Floyd cannot stay healthy. Gates is on borrowed time. Averaging 17.5 yds/reception and has 1 TD. He had another one called back on a penalty recently too.

Emmanuel Sanders - 2nd Year 3rd Rd pick. PIT is going more pass happy. Wallace/Brown are now the WR1/WR2. Sanders will battle Ward/Cotchery for the WR3 spot. He's averaging 13.5 yds/reception with 2 TD's. Runs excellent routes and Ben looks for him on 3rd down plays frequently.

Laurent Robinson - 26 y/o 3rd Rd pick that's averaging 14.6 yds/reception and has 7 TD's over the last 5 games. Austing may return but his playmaking ability will keep him in the game.