Update: Edwards to Giants? Maybe, Maybe not (1 Viewer)

[TheFanatic]

Per Tony Grossi of the PD

"Nevertheless, the interest in Massaquoi confirms, to me, that a trade of Braylon Edwards to New York is done. It just doesn't make sense for it to be announced until after the Browns make their first pick on Saturday"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...w_names_in.html

Clayton on Mike and Mike this morning said they were still negotiating. That Cleveland wanted a 2 and a 5 IIRC and that the Giants only wanted to give the 2. Boldin was being shopped for a 1 and a 3 and that teams are willing to give the 1 but not the 3 and thus they are playing a bit of chicken right now on both counts to see who blinks....

I can't imagine that if the Giants aren't being asked for a 1st, that a 5th would hold things up, but you never know.Anyway, as a Giants fan, I'd be stoked to get Edwards without having to give up a 1st and basically having traded Shockey for Edwards. That would be fantastic.

Actually, I think it was a 2 and a 4 now. The 5th didn't sound right either, and looking back I think it was a 2 and a 4. Then again, all of this so called "hold up" may just be because the deal is already made as the columnist as asserted.

 

[Avery]

Per Tony Grossi of the PD

"Nevertheless, the interest in Massaquoi confirms, to me, that a trade of Braylon Edwards to New York is done. It just doesn't make sense for it to be announced until after the Browns make their first pick on Saturday"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...w_names_in.html

Clayton on Mike and Mike this morning said they were still negotiating. That Cleveland wanted a 2 and a 5 IIRC and that the Giants only wanted to give the 2. Boldin was being shopped for a 1 and a 3 and that teams are willing to give the 1 but not the 3 and thus they are playing a bit of chicken right now on both counts to see who blinks....

I can't imagine that if the Giants aren't being asked for a 1st, that a 5th would hold things up, but you never know.Anyway, as a Giants fan, I'd be stoked to get Edwards without having to give up a 1st and basically having traded Shockey for Edwards. That would be fantastic.

Actually, I think it was a 2 and a 4 now. The 5th didn't sound right either, and looking back I think it was a 2 and a 4. Then again, all of this so called "hold up" may just be because the deal is already made as the columnist as asserted.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the deal is already agreed to in theory, possibly being contingent upon Crabtree being on the board when the Browns pick. Also there is no reason to give the rest of the NFL information that will help them figure out how each team may draft post trade.

 

[Avery]

The Giants are going to need someone with sticker hands than Edwards to catch those high, off target, wobbling ducks, that Manning throws.

 

[MAC_32]

The Giants are going to need someone with sticker hands than Edwards to catch those high, off target, wobbling ducks, that Manning throws.

Actually, those are exactly the type of passes Braylon catches. Put it in his numbers and the football looks more like a stick of butter. Make him stop on a dime and extend his body in a way you didn't think a body could contort and he'll pull it in.

 

[Avery]

The Giants are going to need someone with sticker hands than Edwards to catch those high, off target, wobbling ducks, that Manning throws.

Actually, those are exactly the type of passes Braylon catches. Put it in his numbers and the football looks more like a stick of butter. Make him stop on a dime and extend his body in a way you didn't think a body could contort and he'll pull it in.

Seems to indicate that his catching problem last year is not a "bad hands" issue but a concentration / "being on a bad team" issue, as Jerry Reece seems to have intimated he believes.

 

[amnesiac]

The Giants are going to need someone with sticker hands than Edwards to catch those high, off target, wobbling ducks, that Manning throws.

Actually, those are exactly the type of passes Braylon catches. Put it in his numbers and the football looks more like a stick of butter. Make him stop on a dime and extend his body in a way you didn't think a body could contort and he'll pull it in.

Seems to indicate that his catching problem last year is not a "bad hands" issue but a concentration / "being on a bad team" issue, as Jerry Reece seems to have intimated he believes.

you know, the funny thing is about that theory, is that the Browns would've been a heck of a lot better last year had Edwards been catching the ball. there were a few games it seemed like he lost all by himself.

 

[Avery]

The Giants are going to need someone with sticker hands than Edwards to catch those high, off target, wobbling ducks, that Manning throws.

Actually, those are exactly the type of passes Braylon catches. Put it in his numbers and the football looks more like a stick of butter. Make him stop on a dime and extend his body in a way you didn't think a body could contort and he'll pull it in.

Seems to indicate that his catching problem last year is not a "bad hands" issue but a concentration / "being on a bad team" issue, as Jerry Reece seems to have intimated he believes.

you know, the funny thing is about that theory, is that the Browns would've been a heck of a lot better last year had Edwards been catching the ball. there were a few games it seemed like he lost all by himself.

I'm not excusing his catching problems, but I don't think he had that much of an issue before last year and sometimes playing like #### just becomes contagious.

 

[MAC_32]

The Giants are going to need someone with sticker hands than Edwards to catch those high, off target, wobbling ducks, that Manning throws.

Actually, those are exactly the type of passes Braylon catches. Put it in his numbers and the football looks more like a stick of butter. Make him stop on a dime and extend his body in a way you didn't think a body could contort and he'll pull it in.

Seems to indicate that his catching problem last year is not a "bad hands" issue but a concentration / "being on a bad team" issue, as Jerry Reece seems to have intimated he believes.

you know, the funny thing is about that theory, is that the Browns would've been a heck of a lot better last year had Edwards been catching the ball. there were a few games it seemed like he lost all by himself.

I'm not excusing his catching problems, but I don't think he had that much of an issue before last year and sometimes playing like #### just becomes contagious.

You were dead on until you wrote that he hasn't had that issue before last year, concentration/focus/drops issues have plagued him his entire career dating back to college. They definitely worsened, significantly, last year when the team went to #### so there's probably some merit there but to dismiss his drops as a one year fluke would be false.

 

[Avery]

I'm not excusing his catching problems, but I don't think he had that much of an issue before last year and sometimes playing like #### just becomes contagious.

You were dead on until you wrote that he hasn't had that issue before last year, concentration/focus/drops issues have plagued him his entire career dating back to last year. They definitely worsened, significantly, last year when the team went to #### so there's probably some merit there but to dismiss his drops as a one year fluke would be false.

I'm not saying that he has the best hands in the NFL, but having the drops to the extent as last year may well turn out to be a one year fluke when all is said and done... if he gets himself onto a better team.Also, I don't know if it relates, but Tiki was a systemic fumbler before Coughlin coached him up.

 

[massraider]

I'm not excusing his catching problems, but I don't think he had that much of an issue before last year and sometimes playing like #### just becomes contagious.

You were dead on until you wrote that he hasn't had that issue before last year, concentration/focus/drops issues have plagued him his entire career dating back to last year. They definitely worsened, significantly, last year when the team went to #### so there's probably some merit there but to dismiss his drops as a one year fluke would be false.

I'm not saying that he has the best hands in the NFL, but having the drops to the extent as last year may well turn out to be a one year fluke when all is said and done... if he gets himself onto a better team.Also, I don't know if it relates, but Tiki was a systemic fumbler before Coughlin coached him up.

He had the dropsies the year before as well. It was not a one-year deal. And he was supposedly pretty happy in CLE before 2008.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Rotoworld) ESPN's Sal Paolantonio calls Hakeem Nicks a possible target now that the Giants have ended their pursuit of Braylon Edwards.

This is the first I've heard of this....true?

 

[fridayfrenzy]

(RotoWire) The trade offer which would have sent Edwards to the Giants before draft day is reportedly off, the New York Daily News reports.Analysis: Apparently the Browns are asking for the Giants' first round pick in this weekend's draft (No. 29 overall), which the Giants do not want to part with. With this in mind, there have been an insurmountable amount of rumors surrounding both sides over the last few weeks and until a deal does or doesn't go down it's best to take each report with a grain of salt. That being said, it now seems unlikely the trade will happen but don't be surprised if the receiver starved Giants pull the trigger on Edwards, who is only a season removed from his 16 touchdown 2007 season.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

(RotoWire) The trade offer which would have sent Edwards to the Giants before draft day is reportedly off, the New York Daily News reports.Analysis: Apparently the Browns are asking for the Giants' first round pick in this weekend's draft (No. 29 overall), which the Giants do not want to part with. With this in mind, there have been an insurmountable amount of rumors surrounding both sides over the last few weeks and until a deal does or doesn't go down it's best to take each report with a grain of salt. That being said, it now seems unlikely the trade will happen but don't be surprised if the receiver starved Giants pull the trigger on Edwards, who is only a season removed from his 16 touchdown 2007 season.

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

 

[Steed]

Not at all. The Giants need a WR to get them back to the SuperBowl. No rookie is going to do that for them. They'll pony up the 1st and something extra. Maybe not Kiwi, but something else.

Worse thing that can happen to the Browns is they keep Braylon if somebody doesn't meet their price. Someone else will come sniffing around when they realize they need a #1 WR.

 

[amnesiac]

Not at all. The Giants need a WR to get them back to the SuperBowl. No rookie is going to do that for them. They'll pony up the 1st and something extra. Maybe not Kiwi, but something else.Worse thing that can happen to the Browns is they keep Braylon if somebody doesn't meet their price. Someone else will come sniffing around when they realize they need a #1 WR.

or they will keep a motivated Edwards who will be playing for a FA contract after the season. the Browns are in no rush to move him. they are pretty thin at WR right now.

 

[thelongsnapper]

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

Sorry, but I don't see how that puts the Giants in the drivers seat. Giants are in a situation of need and the Browns have something they (may) want. Worst case is the Browns keep Braylon this year and lose him for a compensatory pick next year (or is it the year after?). What does this do for the Giants? They have a championship team in need of an elite receiver. If that need is perceived as great enough, they'll pony up for Boldin or Braylon. If the Browns don't get offer at least 1.29 plus a pick or starting player...I say keep Braylon for one year. Who knows, if.....if Cleveland turns the corner, winning may cure Braylon's desire to leave.But that's just the way I see it.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Not at all. The Giants need a WR to get them back to the SuperBowl. No rookie is going to do that for them. They'll pony up the 1st and something extra. Maybe not Kiwi, but something else.Worse thing that can happen to the Browns is they keep Braylon if somebody doesn't meet their price. Someone else will come sniffing around when they realize they need a #1 WR.

or they will keep a motivated Edwards who will be playing for a FA contract after the season. the Browns are in no rush to move him. they are pretty thin at WR right now.

The Browns dont care about being thin at WR, they care about getting something in return for Edwards before he just leaves next year via free agency, so they are in bit of a rush.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

Sorry, but I don't see how that puts the Giants in the drivers seat. Giants are in a situation of need and the Browns have something they (may) want. Worst case is the Browns keep Braylon this year and lose him for a compensatory pick next year (or is it the year after?). What does this do for the Giants? They have a championship team in need of an elite receiver. If that need is perceived as great enough, they'll pony up for Boldin or Braylon. If the Browns don't get offer at least 1.29 plus a pick or starting player...I say keep Braylon for one year. Who knows, if.....if Cleveland turns the corner, winning may cure Braylon's desire to leave.But that's just the way I see it.

Because they know the Browns are dying to get rid of Edwards and since this is a deep WR draft they can probably draft a better WR at #29 than Edwards.

 

[amnesiac]

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

Sorry, but I don't see how that puts the Giants in the drivers seat. Giants are in a situation of need and the Browns have something they (may) want. Worst case is the Browns keep Braylon this year and lose him for a compensatory pick next year (or is it the year after?). What does this do for the Giants? They have a championship team in need of an elite receiver. If that need is perceived as great enough, they'll pony up for Boldin or Braylon. If the Browns don't get offer at least 1.29 plus a pick or starting player...I say keep Braylon for one year. Who knows, if.....if Cleveland turns the corner, winning may cure Braylon's desire to leave.But that's just the way I see it.

Because they know the Browns are dying to get rid of Edwards and since this is a deep WR draft they can probably draft a better WR at #29 than Edwards.

i don't see it that way. i think it's a trade that could make sense for both sides, but i don't see either side dying to get it done.

 

[thelongsnapper]

Because they know the Browns are dying to get rid of Edwards and since this is a deep WR draft they can probably draft a better WR at #29 than Edwards.

The Browns may be dying to get rid of him, although I don't believe they are going to toss him just because they got an offer. If I was ManKok (which I'm not, I'm just a 'snapper) I would sooner risk losing him for nothing and reap the production of a player trying to cash in on free agency for one year than take what they apparently see as a lowball offer.I agree that Braylon is quite possibly one of those player that was tailor made to play in NY. The Giants are in Super Bowl form right now. The question is who would you rather "hitch your wagon to"? An established "elite" level NFL receiver? Or a rookie WR, a fourth round rookie TE or LB and the 3rd or fourth stringer receiver you wouldn't trade away? Sounds like we might choose differently....but I am very excited to see which way it ultimately goes.

 

[Moniker]

The Browns hold all the cards in this one. The Giants are in the middle of their Super Bowl window and are in need of an elite WR or there is no way they are going to make it there.

The Browns would like to trade Braylon, sure, but they don't need to. If no CBA is reached Braylon will be a RFA next year and if a CBA is reached the Browns can always franchise him.

 

[FUBAR]

The Browns hold all the cards in this one. The Giants are in the middle of their Super Bowl window and are in need of an elite WR or there is no way they are going to make it there.

The Browns would like to trade Braylon, sure, but they don't need to. If no CBA is reached Braylon will be a RFA next year and if a CBA is reached the Browns can always franchise him.

If it weren't for 85 and Boldin on the market, I'd agree.

 

[FUBAR]

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

Sorry, but I don't see how that puts the Giants in the drivers seat. Giants are in a situation of need and the Browns have something they (may) want. Worst case is the Browns keep Braylon this year and lose him for a compensatory pick next year (or is it the year after?). What does this do for the Giants? They have a championship team in need of an elite receiver. If that need is perceived as great enough, they'll pony up for Boldin or Braylon. If the Browns don't get offer at least 1.29 plus a pick or starting player...I say keep Braylon for one year. Who knows, if.....if Cleveland turns the corner, winning may cure Braylon's desire to leave.But that's just the way I see it.

Because they know the Browns are dying to get rid of Edwards and since this is a deep WR draft they can probably draft a better WR at #29 than Edwards.

Sorry, but no.

 

[thelongsnapper]

The Browns hold all the cards in this one. The Giants are in the middle of their Super Bowl window and are in need of an elite WR or there is no way they are going to make it there.

The Browns would like to trade Braylon, sure, but they don't need to. If no CBA is reached Braylon will be a RFA next year and if a CBA is reached the Browns can always franchise him.

If it weren't for 85 and Boldin on the market, I'd agree.

I can't speak for others, but my point of view is that the Browns don't have to trade Braylon. The Giants can offer as little as they want. The Browns can ask for as much as they want. At the end of the day, the Browns have something the Giants want. If the Giants truly want him, they will pay. If they'd rather have Ocho or Bolidin...congrats and good luck. Boldin will cost alot more than Braylon. IMO Ocho is done. Braylon is young, cocky, talented and just enough of a head case to be a perfect fit in the Big Apple. NYG can win with any of those WRs but for the cost, production, long term good... I think Braylon is their guy if they're willing to pay the Browns price for him.

 

[Fallerjw]

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

Sorry, but I don't see how that puts the Giants in the drivers seat. Giants are in a situation of need and the Browns have something they (may) want. Worst case is the Browns keep Braylon this year and lose him for a compensatory pick next year (or is it the year after?). What does this do for the Giants? They have a championship team in need of an elite receiver. If that need is perceived as great enough, they'll pony up for Boldin or Braylon. If the Browns don't get offer at least 1.29 plus a pick or starting player...I say keep Braylon for one year. Who knows, if.....if Cleveland turns the corner, winning may cure Braylon's desire to leave.But that's just the way I see it.

Because they know the Browns are dying to get rid of Edwards and since this is a deep WR draft they can probably draft a better WR at #29 than Edwards.

Sorry, but no.

 

[massraider]

The Browns hold all the cards in this one. The Giants are in the middle of their Super Bowl window and are in need of an elite WR or there is no way they are going to make it there.

The Browns would like to trade Braylon, sure, but they don't need to. If no CBA is reached Braylon will be a RFA next year and if a CBA is reached the Browns can always franchise him.

If it weren't for 85 and Boldin on the market, I'd agree.

I can't speak for others, but my point of view is that the Browns don't have to trade Braylon. The Giants can offer as little as they want. The Browns can ask for as much as they want. At the end of the day, the Browns have something the Giants want. If the Giants truly want him, they will pay. If they'd rather have Ocho or Bolidin...congrats and good luck. Boldin will cost alot more than Braylon. IMO Ocho is done. Braylon is young, cocky, talented and just enough of a head case to be a perfect fit in the Big Apple. NYG can win with any of those WRs but for the cost, production, long term good... I think Braylon is their guy if they're willing to pay the Browns price for him.

The Cards supposed price is 1 and a 3. Which is one of the two prices the Browns are supposedly asking for. The prices seem similar, which makes the asking price for Edwards too high.The Browns are trying to trade a guy that wants out, wants a new deal, and dropped everything except his attitude last year. It's a tough position for the Browns. JMO.

 

[TheFanatic]

The Browns hold all the cards in this one. The Giants are in the middle of their Super Bowl window and are in need of an elite WR or there is no way they are going to make it there.

The Browns would like to trade Braylon, sure, but they don't need to. If no CBA is reached Braylon will be a RFA next year and if a CBA is reached the Browns can always franchise him.

If it weren't for 85 and Boldin on the market, I'd agree.

I can't speak for others, but my point of view is that the Browns don't have to trade Braylon. The Giants can offer as little as they want. The Browns can ask for as much as they want. At the end of the day, the Browns have something the Giants want. If the Giants truly want him, they will pay. If they'd rather have Ocho or Bolidin...congrats and good luck. Boldin will cost alot more than Braylon. IMO Ocho is done. Braylon is young, cocky, talented and just enough of a head case to be a perfect fit in the Big Apple. NYG can win with any of those WRs but for the cost, production, long term good... I think Braylon is their guy if they're willing to pay the Browns price for him.

But don't the Giants also have something the Browns want? Picks?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

Sorry, but I don't see how that puts the Giants in the drivers seat. Giants are in a situation of need and the Browns have something they (may) want. Worst case is the Browns keep Braylon this year and lose him for a compensatory pick next year (or is it the year after?). What does this do for the Giants? They have a championship team in need of an elite receiver. If that need is perceived as great enough, they'll pony up for Boldin or Braylon. If the Browns don't get offer at least 1.29 plus a pick or starting player...I say keep Braylon for one year. Who knows, if.....if Cleveland turns the corner, winning may cure Braylon's desire to leave.But that's just the way I see it.

Because they know the Browns are dying to get rid of Edwards and since this is a deep WR draft they can probably draft a better WR at #29 than Edwards.

um no

 

[foxco]

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

Sorry, but I don't see how that puts the Giants in the drivers seat. Giants are in a situation of need and the Browns have something they (may) want. Worst case is the Browns keep Braylon this year and lose him for a compensatory pick next year (or is it the year after?). What does this do for the Giants? They have a championship team in need of an elite receiver. If that need is perceived as great enough, they'll pony up for Boldin or Braylon. If the Browns don't get offer at least 1.29 plus a pick or starting player...I say keep Braylon for one year. Who knows, if.....if Cleveland turns the corner, winning may cure Braylon's desire to leave.But that's just the way I see it.

Because they know the Browns are dying to get rid of Edwards and since this is a deep WR draft they can probably draft a better WR at #29 than Edwards.

um no

Exactly. Edwards is easily worth the 29th pick. Kind of ridiculous the Giants would refuse to give up a late 1st rounder for him.

 

[thelongsnapper]

But don't the Giants also have something the Browns want? Picks?

Absolutely they do! A one and a three.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

But don't the Giants also have something the Browns want? Picks?

Absolutely they do! A one and a three.

As Dana Carvey playing George Bush would say, "Not gonna happen".

 

[wadegarrett]

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

Sorry, but I don't see how that puts the Giants in the drivers seat. Giants are in a situation of need and the Browns have something they (may) want. Worst case is the Browns keep Braylon this year and lose him for a compensatory pick next year (or is it the year after?). What does this do for the Giants? They have a championship team in need of an elite receiver. If that need is perceived as great enough, they'll pony up for Boldin or Braylon. If the Browns don't get offer at least 1.29 plus a pick or starting player...I say keep Braylon for one year. Who knows, if.....if Cleveland turns the corner, winning may cure Braylon's desire to leave.But that's just the way I see it.

Because they know the Browns are dying to get rid of Edwards and since this is a deep WR draft they can probably draft a better WR at #29 than Edwards.

um no

Exactly. Edwards is easily worth the 29th pick. Kind of ridiculous the Giants would refuse to give up a late 1st rounder for him.

Browns reportedly want a player back and the Giants won't give up anyone. This appears to be the holdup.

 

[Crippler]

Difference between 29 and Braylon Edwards. 8 million dollars per year.

Is it worth getting the better player and add the extra 8 million in salary. Add in to the fact that the Giants must do a new contract to make this worth the first. NFL teams dont rent players for a year. This is not the NHL.

I can see why the Giants are unwilling to give a 1st for Edwards. Boldin still has 2 years left on his contract at least and the price is the same right now. Plus add in I heard that Boldin only wants 8 per year. Chad probably could come the cheapest.

I think 2nd and 4th is fair for the Browns. They are going to lose him. I dont care what kind of season, he has this year. The Browns team sucks and plays with 2 of the best teams in the NFL. There is nothing keeping Edwards there come next year other than franchise tag.

 

[Yenrub]

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

Sorry, but I don't see how that puts the Giants in the drivers seat. Giants are in a situation of need and the Browns have something they (may) want. Worst case is the Browns keep Braylon this year and lose him for a compensatory pick next year (or is it the year after?). What does this do for the Giants? They have a championship team in need of an elite receiver. If that need is perceived as great enough, they'll pony up for Boldin or Braylon. If the Browns don't get offer at least 1.29 plus a pick or starting player...I say keep Braylon for one year. Who knows, if.....if Cleveland turns the corner, winning may cure Braylon's desire to leave.But that's just the way I see it.

Because they know the Browns are dying to get rid of Edwards and since this is a deep WR draft they can probably draft a better WR at #29 than Edwards.

Sorry, but no.

For 2009 and maybe 2010 I would agree but beyond that who knows? Since the Giants are built to win now 2009 seems to be more important

 

[Avery]

The Giants are in the driver's seat on this because other teams don't seem to be interested in Edwards.

Sorry, but I don't see how that puts the Giants in the drivers seat. Giants are in a situation of need and the Browns have something they (may) want. Worst case is the Browns keep Braylon this year and lose him for a compensatory pick next year (or is it the year after?). What does this do for the Giants? They have a championship team in need of an elite receiver. If that need is perceived as great enough, they'll pony up for Boldin or Braylon. If the Browns don't get offer at least 1.29 plus a pick or starting player...I say keep Braylon for one year. Who knows, if.....if Cleveland turns the corner, winning may cure Braylon's desire to leave.But that's just the way I see it.

Because they know the Browns are dying to get rid of Edwards and since this is a deep WR draft they can probably draft a better WR at #29 than Edwards.

um no

Exactly. Edwards is easily worth the 29th pick. Kind of ridiculous the Giants would refuse to give up a late 1st rounder for him.

Rules of supply and demand.If no one is willing to pay a 1st round pick for Edwards, then he isn't worth a 1st round pick.

 

[netnalp]

I think the Giants are considered to have the upper hand because, if the Browns want anything for Braylon the need to get something this year. The Giants werent able to adjust late in the season with Plax suddenly gone, an offseason without him the Gmen are probably prepared to go out as a grind it out ball control team like the Ravens, Jags and Bucs do. They have the line, Rbs and defense to keeps scores low. Not ideal but they can do it, then in 2010 Braylon, Marshall and Roddy White are UFAs last I knew. Though I expect Roddy to get locked up by the Falcons.

 

[massraider]

Difference between 29 and Braylon Edwards. 8 million dollars per year. Is it worth getting the better player and add the extra 8 million in salary. Add in to the fact that the Giants must do a new contract to make this worth the first. NFL teams dont rent players for a year. This is not the NHL. I can see why the Giants are unwilling to give a 1st for Edwards. Boldin still has 2 years left on his contract at least and the price is the same right now. Plus add in I heard that Boldin only wants 8 per year. Chad probably could come the cheapest. I think 2nd and 4th is fair for the Browns. They are going to lose him. I dont care what kind of season, he has this year. The Browns team sucks and plays with 2 of the best teams in the NFL. There is nothing keeping Edwards there come next year other than franchise tag.

IIRC, if there is no CBA, and the NFL has the uncapped year, then Braylon is a RFA next year. That's two years before a team even has to use the franchise tag. might be a moot point, as I would guess the new team would want a long term deal done, but Braylon might even be willing to play under his old deal, if it means getting out of Cleveland. Plus, he'll probably get a better long term deal if he plays better than he did in 08.

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm not sure if I have ever read a thread in the SP where so many guys debated who has the upper hand in a negotiation between two teams.

 

[eefflrat]

can anybody elaborate on the ESPN Insider "Eagles swooping in on Braylon" article?

is it anything new, is it from today?

 

[Snotbubbles]

I think the Giants are considered to have the upper hand because, if the Browns want anything for Braylon the need to get something this year. The Giants werent able to adjust late in the season with Plax suddenly gone, an offseason without him the Gmen are probably prepared to go out as a grind it out ball control team like the Ravens, Jags and Bucs do. They have the line, Rbs and defense to keeps scores low. Not ideal but they can do it, then in 2010 Braylon, Marshall and Roddy White are UFAs last I knew. Though I expect Roddy to get locked up by the Falcons.

I can't see how the Giants have the upper hand. We don't really know how available guys like Boldin and Ocho are. So really, it's Braylon Edwards or a rookie to fill the gaping hole (and it is gaping) that they now have with Plax gone. The Browns have the leverage here, because they can not only keep the player, but they can trade him to any of the other if they have interest. Most of those team probably have picks higher in the same rounds then the Giants have.

 

[massraider]

I think the Giants are considered to have the upper hand because, if the Browns want anything for Braylon the need to get something this year. The Giants werent able to adjust late in the season with Plax suddenly gone, an offseason without him the Gmen are probably prepared to go out as a grind it out ball control team like the Ravens, Jags and Bucs do. They have the line, Rbs and defense to keeps scores low. Not ideal but they can do it, then in 2010 Braylon, Marshall and Roddy White are UFAs last I knew. Though I expect Roddy to get locked up by the Falcons.

I can't see how the Giants have the upper hand. We don't really know how available guys like Boldin and Ocho are. So really, it's Braylon Edwards or a rookie to fill the gaping hole (and it is gaping) that they now have with Plax gone. The Browns have the leverage here, because they can not only keep the player, but they can trade him to any of the other if they have interest. Most of those team probably have picks higher in the same rounds then the Giants have.

Sal Pal on ESPN, saying that the Cards have lowered the price for Boldin to a 2nd plus considerations.That sound you heard was the Giants hanging up on the Browns.

 

[Yenrub]

Jay Glazer on WFAN today and he said the Edwards deal is not going to happen at all. Mara and Coughlin both don’t want him and told Reese he is not to pursue. Mara does not want to pay him the money