Update: Edwards to Giants? Maybe, Maybe not (1 Viewer)

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Sounds to me like the Browns GM is some fantasy football junkie from FBGs

I honestly think there's at least a half dozen guys around here that could do a better job than about 50% of NFL GM's.

Therein lies the problem. Sure, I like to play a GM, but I'm not stupid enough to think I know more than these guys who get paid to do it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check. FF Geeks behind their keyboards don't know the first thing about being an NFL GM. 50%? I would say maybe, just maybe .00000001%Edited to remove the stutter.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Sounds to me like the Browns GM is some fantasy football junkie from FBGs

I honestly think there's at least a half dozen guys around here that could do a better job than about 50% of NFL GM's.

Therein lies the problem. Sure, I like to play a GM, but I'm not stupid enough to think I know more than these guys who get paid to do it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check. FF Geeks behind their keyboards don't know the first thing about being an NFL GM. 50%? I would say maybe, just maybe .00000001%Edited to remove the stutter.

All right. 50% is hyperbole. But to say it couldn't be done at all isn't true either. Seriously, you don't think a team of the top 3 FBGs couldn't do better than a GM like Matt Millen or Carl Peterson of late? I'm not talking about just a random fantasy player, but guys that really know the game and the players.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Sounds to me like the Browns GM is some fantasy football junkie from FBGs

I honestly think there's at least a half dozen guys around here that could do a better job than about 50% of NFL GM's.

Therein lies the problem. Sure, I like to play a GM, but I'm not stupid enough to think I know more than these guys who get paid to do it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check. FF Geeks behind their keyboards don't know the first thing about being an NFL GM. 50%? I would say maybe, just maybe .00000001%Edited to remove the stutter.

All right. 50% is hyperbole. But to say it couldn't be done at all isn't true either. Seriously, you don't think a team of the top 3 FBGs couldn't do better than a GM like Matt Millen or Carl Peterson of late? I'm not talking about just a random fantasy player, but guys that really know the game and the players.

You are giving way too much praise to FBGs. We love fantasy football, and a lot of us do well at this hobby, but let's not pretend FBGs can be NFL GMs. Maybe one out of 50,000 if they're lucky. How many FBGs are there now?

 

[az_prof]

I do NOT think this would be good for Edwards.

1) GMen are and will be for the foreseeable future a Run First team. Brandon Jacobs and Bradshaw are the focus of the offense.

2) Good defense with a good running game means--you aren't playing from behind. That equates to less passing. Teams with bad defenses are behind and have to pass alot to catch up.

3) I don't see Eli as a huge upgrade at QB. DA is pretty close.

 

[Londo]

I do NOT think this would be good for Edwards.1) GMen are and will be for the foreseeab future a Run First team. Brandon Jacobs and Bradshaw are the focus of the offense.2) Good defense with a good running game means--you aren't playing from behind. That equates to less passing. Teams with bad defenses are behind and have to pass alot to catch up.3) I don't see Eli as a huge upgrade at QB. DA is pretty close.

I gotta disagrree prof. I think this is a big upgrade for Braylon. The Giants passed the ball more than the Browns did last year for starters so the chances should still be there. Also Burress thrived in this offense and Braylon is (IMO, obviously) as talented as Burress, minus the issue of the dropped passes, which I believe can be fixed. Braylon had a monster season two years ago for a Browns team that was supposed to be a run-first team. A bad offense that is always playing catchup isn't always a great thing for a receiver. Sometimes it can lead to a lot of garbage time scoring and yards, but on a good offense, that same scoring and yardage simply occurs earlier in the game. Just my .02 but I think the Giants could be a perfect fit for the guy from a fantasy perspective.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I do NOT think this would be good for Edwards.

1) GMen are and will be for the foreseeab future a Run First team. Brandon Jacobs and Bradshaw are the focus of the offense.

2) Good defense with a good running game means--you aren't playing from behind. That equates to less passing. Teams with bad defenses are behind and have to pass alot to catch up.

3) I don't see Eli as a huge upgrade at QB. DA is pretty close.

I gotta disagrree prof. I think this is a big upgrade for Braylon. The Giants passed the ball more than the Browns did last year for starters so the chances should still be there. Also Burress thrived in this offense and Braylon is (IMO, obviously) as talented as Burress, minus the issue of the dropped passes, which I believe can be fixed. Braylon had a monster season two years ago for a Browns team that was supposed to be a run-first team. A bad offense that is always playing catchup isn't always a great thing for a receiver. Sometimes it can lead to a lot of garbage time scoring and yards, but on a good offense, that same scoring and yardage simply occurs earlier in the game.

Just my .02 but I think the Giants could be a perfect fit for the guy from a fantasy perspective.

I agree with your disagree.

 

[FUBAR]

Sounds to me like the Browns GM is some fantasy football junkie from FBGs

I honestly think there's at least a half dozen guys around here that could do a better job than about 50% of NFL GM's.

Therein lies the problem. Sure, I like to play a GM, but I'm not stupid enough to think I know more than these guys who get paid to do it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check. FF Geeks behind their keyboards don't know the first thing about being an NFL GM. 50%? I would say maybe, just maybe .00000001%Edited to remove the stutter.

All right. 50% is hyperbole. But to say it couldn't be done at all isn't true either. Seriously, you don't think a team of the top 3 FBGs couldn't do better than a GM like Matt Millen or Carl Peterson of late? I'm not talking about just a random fantasy player, but guys that really know the game and the players.

Take the few here who know how to run a successful mid-level business AND know players, and you might find someone who could manage the job, but there's much more to it than just knowing who will do well in FF.

 

[Phurfur]

Per RotoWorld

Report: Edwards-to-Giants trade now unlikely

Profootballtalk.com hears that a Braylon Edwards trade to the Giants is unlikely, despite two reports to the contrary.

PFT suggests both sides are "posturing," with Cleveland leaking rumors to drive up Edwards' market, and New York holding out "until the Browns drop their asking price" and Edwards his contract demands. The Browns are said to be asking for Mathias Kiwanuka. Edwards wants to be paid $10M a year. Apr. 14 - 5:36 pm et

Source: Profootballtalk.com

 

[King of the Jungle]

Per RotoWorld

Report: Edwards-to-Giants trade now unlikely

Profootballtalk.com hears that a Braylon Edwards trade to the Giants is unlikely, despite two reports to the contrary.

PFT suggests both sides are "posturing," with Cleveland leaking rumors to drive up Edwards' market, and New York holding out "until the Browns drop their asking price" and Edwards his contract demands. The Browns are said to be asking for Mathias Kiwanuka. Edwards wants to be paid $10M a year. Apr. 14 - 5:36 pm et

Source: Profootballtalk.com

To ask for that money after his horrendous season IS A JOKE. Who knows what is actually going on behind the scenes though (if anything).

 

[houndirish]

Please, Jerry don't do this. Make a call to Arizona first.. There is no place on the Giants for a receiver that can't catch the ball.

I would think Ocho Cinco would be cheaper than Boldin or Edwards, and IMO might just be the best fit - Gmen are built to win now and Chad has 2-3 years left in the tank.

I just can't see the Giants chasing Ocho Cinco. If they wanted a head case deep threat they would've gone after TO when he became available. They didn't even consider it.

 

[Avery]

Please, Jerry don't do this. Make a call to Arizona first.. There is no place on the Giants for a receiver that can't catch the ball.

I would think Ocho Cinco would be cheaper than Boldin or Edwards, and IMO might just be the best fit - Gmen are built to win now and Chad has 2-3 years left in the tank.

I just can't see the Giants chasing Ocho Cinco. If they wanted a head case deep threat they would've gone after TO when he became available. They didn't even consider it.

TO and Ocho Cinco are very different sort of head cases.TO seems to divide the locker room and destroy team chemistry wherever he goes. Chad seems like somewhat of a court jester who from what I've read, most of his teammates and opponents seem to like and not take his talking too seriously.

 

[Yenrub]

Per RotoWorld

Report: Edwards-to-Giants trade now unlikely

Profootballtalk.com hears that a Braylon Edwards trade to the Giants is unlikely, despite two reports to the contrary.

PFT suggests both sides are "posturing," with Cleveland leaking rumors to drive up Edwards' market, and New York holding out "until the Browns drop their asking price" and Edwards his contract demands. The Browns are said to be asking for Mathias Kiwanuka. Edwards wants to be paid $10M a year. Apr. 14 - 5:36 pm et

Source: Profootballtalk.com

To ask for that money after his horrendous season IS A JOKE. Who knows what is actually going on behind the scenes though (if anything).

He had 1 great year (80-1300 & 16 TDs) but 3 subpar years where he avg about 50-750 & 4 TDs.

I said it before and I will say it again, I hope the Giants are smart enough not to give up Kiwanuka to get Edwards

 

[MAC_32]

cleveland is about to become a disaster of biblical proportions

News flash, we already were. ManKok's just in clean up mode.

no I mean like 0-16 lions like bad

If Cleveland had played Detroit in December last year they'd have lost.Badly.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Sounds to me like the Browns GM is some fantasy football junkie from FBGs

I honestly think there's at least a half dozen guys around here that could do a better job than about 50% of NFL GM's.

Therein lies the problem. Sure, I like to play a GM, but I'm not stupid enough to think I know more than these guys who get paid to do it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check. FF Geeks behind their keyboards don't know the first thing about being an NFL GM. 50%? I would say maybe, just maybe .00000001%Edited to remove the stutter.

All right. 50% is hyperbole. But to say it couldn't be done at all isn't true either. Seriously, you don't think a team of the top 3 FBGs couldn't do better than a GM like Matt Millen or Carl Peterson of late? I'm not talking about just a random fantasy player, but guys that really know the game and the players.

I think you guys oversell NFL GMs, at least that handful on the lowend. Not that we're geniuses, we all have our groupthink, herd mentality busts, but its not so much that bright people aren't NFL GMs, but you have to question those that HIRE the GMs. Really, to get that gig, you need a football resume, but you also need to be able to sell yourself. Look at Millen, he had nothing in his background as a broadcaster to indicate that he was ready for that gig. But he was probably a "great guy" with a big personality, could hold a room, and that translation spun some dope's head around to give him a gig. And yes, sometimes dopes, pure blooded, straight up dopes run these teams. We have two sons of moguls in New York alone in Jimmy Dolan and Jeff Wilpon who if left to their own devices they would probably be managing cell phone stores.

 

[CrossEyed]

Man, I love playing in the same division as the Browns.

 

[amnesiac]

cleveland is about to become a disaster of biblical proportions

News flash, we already were. ManKok's just in clean up mode.

no I mean like 0-16 lions like bad

If Cleveland had played Detroit in December last year they'd have lost.Badly.

well, they did lose to the Bengals.

 

[MAC_32]

cleveland is about to become a disaster of biblical proportions

News flash, we already were. ManKok's just in clean up mode.

no I mean like 0-16 lions like bad

If Cleveland had played Detroit in December last year they'd have lost.Badly.

well, they did lose to get killed by the Bengals.

 

[DrJ]

Sounds to me like the Browns GM is some fantasy football junkie from FBGs

I honestly think there's at least a half dozen guys around here that could do a better job than about 50% of NFL GM's.

Therein lies the problem. Sure, I like to play a GM, but I'm not stupid enough to think I know more than these guys who get paid to do it. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs a reality check. FF Geeks behind their keyboards don't know the first thing about being an NFL GM. 50%? I would say maybe, just maybe .00000001%Edited to remove the stutter.

All right. 50% is hyperbole. But to say it couldn't be done at all isn't true either. Seriously, you don't think a team of the top 3 FBGs couldn't do better than a GM like Matt Millen or Carl Peterson of late? I'm not talking about just a random fantasy player, but guys that really know the game and the players.

I think you guys oversell NFL GMs, at least that handful on the lowend. Not that we're geniuses, we all have our groupthink, herd mentality busts, but its not so much that bright people aren't NFL GMs, but you have to question those that HIRE the GMs. Really, to get that gig, you need a football resume, but you also need to be able to sell yourself. Look at Millen, he had nothing in his background as a broadcaster to indicate that he was ready for that gig. But he was probably a "great guy" with a big personality, could hold a room, and that translation spun some dope's head around to give him a gig. And yes, sometimes dopes, pure blooded, straight up dopes run these teams. We have two sons of moguls in New York alone in Jimmy Dolan and Jeff Wilpon who if left to their own devices they would probably be managing cell phone stores.

You could do better than Millen did by using a magic 8 ball or flipping a coin to field your staff and team. I'm fairly certain just about anyone in the universe could do better by hiring some people with actual knowledge underneath them and simply listening to them. Or by subscribing to Mel Kiper's list and using that. It would be almost impossible to replicate the misery of what he did even if you actually made a conscious effort.

 

[chris_dub]

Well...guess what....

Per Rotoworld:

Report: Edwards-to-Giants a work in progress

CBS Sports reports that the Giants are working on a trade to acquire Braylon Edwards, but considers the deal "a work in progress."

"Something is going on," a league executive told CBS Sports' Clark Judge, "and the Giants are in the middle of it." One scout considers most of the Giants' current wideouts "No. 3 receivers...so there's definitely a need." It sounds like the negotiations could be ongoing right up until April 25. Apr. 14 - 11:42 pm et

Source: CBS Sports

 

[Avery]

Well...guess what....

Per Rotoworld:

Report: Edwards-to-Giants a work in progress

CBS Sports reports that the Giants are working on a trade to acquire Braylon Edwards, but considers the deal "a work in progress."

"Something is going on," a league executive told CBS Sports' Clark Judge, "and the Giants are in the middle of it." One scout considers most of the Giants' current wideouts "No. 3 receivers...so there's definitely a need." It sounds like the negotiations could be ongoing right up until April 25. Apr. 14 - 11:42 pm et

Source: CBS Sports

This actually sounds like a reasonable report on the situation being that the likelihood is that the truth is somewhere between the Lombardi and like reports that a deal is happening any second now and the PFT reports that a deal is not going to happen at all.

 

[DoubleG]

Well...guess what....

Per Rotoworld:

Report: Edwards-to-Giants a work in progress

CBS Sports reports that the Giants are working on a trade to acquire Braylon Edwards, but considers the deal "a work in progress."

"Something is going on," a league executive told CBS Sports' Clark Judge, "and the Giants are in the middle of it." One scout considers most of the Giants' current wideouts "No. 3 receivers...so there's definitely a need." It sounds like the negotiations could be ongoing right up until April 25. Apr. 14 - 11:42 pm et

Source: CBS Sports

This actually sounds like a reasonable report on the situation being that the likelihood is that the truth is somewhere between the Lombardi and like reports that a deal is happening any second now and the PFT reports that a deal is not going to happen at all.

I think they key is the bolded part. I'm guessing this deal doesn't happen before the draft. I can see a draft-day trade depending on who is available at the Clevland slot. If Seattle (or St. Louis???) doesn't snag Crabtree, Clevland can trade Braylon and still land Crabtree - that'd be one possibility anyway. There are many other draft day deals they could make, especially with two QBs

 

[Avery]

Well...guess what....

Per Rotoworld:

Report: Edwards-to-Giants a work in progress

CBS Sports reports that the Giants are working on a trade to acquire Braylon Edwards, but considers the deal "a work in progress."

"Something is going on," a league executive told CBS Sports' Clark Judge, "and the Giants are in the middle of it." One scout considers most of the Giants' current wideouts "No. 3 receivers...so there's definitely a need." It sounds like the negotiations could be ongoing right up until April 25. Apr. 14 - 11:42 pm et

Source: CBS Sports

This actually sounds like a reasonable report on the situation being that the likelihood is that the truth is somewhere between the Lombardi and like reports that a deal is happening any second now and the PFT reports that a deal is not going to happen at all.

I think they key is the bolded part. I'm guessing this deal doesn't happen before the draft. I can see a draft-day trade depending on who is available at the Clevland slot. If Seattle (or St. Louis???) doesn't snag Crabtree, Clevland can trade Braylon and still land Crabtree - that'd be one possibility anyway. There are many other draft day deals they could make, especially with two QBs

A likely scenario.Furthermore, consider the Giants have more draft picks then they in reality have roster spots for open competition (all their "regular" picks plus and extra second, an extra third and an extra fifth) I'd expect them to either trade for a player (Edwards, Boldin or Ocho Cinco) or move up somewhere in day 1.

 

[Paul Brown]

John Clayton on Mike & Mike saying it's still likely and it would be for a 1st and 3rd if/when it happens.

 

[Yenrub]

I understand that Edwards just being on the field would probably help the Giants because he is a deep threat however the more I look at his numbers (and yes I know numbers don’t tell the whole story) the more his value goes down in my eyes

2007 was his career year and he put up great numbers, but does anyone remember that the Browns had one of the leagues easiest schedules that year?

I looked back at the game logs. The Browns only played 4 games against teams that made the playoffs that year and Edwards only had 1 TD catch in those 4 games.

He went 15-242-1 in those games

Steelers – 3-49-0

Patriots – 6-110-0

Seahawks – 5-67-0

Steelers – 1-16-1

The Giants have 7 games against playoff teams this season

 

[MAC_32]

I understand that Edwards just being on the field would probably help the Giants because he is a deep threat however the more I look at his numbers (and yes I know numbers don’t tell the whole story) the more his value goes down in my eyes2007 was his career year and he put up great numbers, but does anyone remember that the Browns had one of the leagues easiest schedules that year?I looked back at the game logs. The Browns only played 4 games against teams that made the playoffs that year and Edwards only had 1 TD catch in those 4 games.He went 15-242-1 in those games Steelers – 3-49-0Patriots – 6-110-0Seahawks – 5-67-0Steelers – 1-16-1The Giants have 7 games against playoff teams this season

For the record - the 3/49 game vs. Pittsburgh was the disaster that Charlie Fryed started. I get your point, just clarifying for that particular game.

 

[Rumblefish]

The more important numbers would be these:

2008

With a big-play WR (Plax): 9-1

Without a big-play WR (Plax): 3-3

Note that the Giants had the same four WRs (Smith, Hixon, Manningham, Moss) in those games without Plax last season, and where they only won half their games, as they now have a week before the draft. With all the talent that the Giants have, they won't win the Super Bowl with a group of wideouts who are essentially WR3-caliber players.

 

[BoulderBob]

The more important numbers would be these:

2008

With a big-play WR (Plax): 9-1

Without a big-play WR (Plax): 3-3

Note that the Giants had the same four WRs (Smith, Hixon, Manningham, Moss) in those games without Plax last season, and where they only won half their games, as they now have a week before the draft. With all the talent that the Giants have, they won't win the Super Bowl with a group of wideouts who are essentially WR3-caliber players.

If Edwards is truly on the table, the Giants will eventually give the Browns more than any other NFL team will.

For those of us that saw Eli without his safety blanket, it should come as no surprise that the Giants would be all over Edwards, regardless of his terrible 2008, which I believe was a fluke. For the sake of the rest of the NFC, I hope someone other than Giants land Edwards, as he makes the NYG offense SuperBowl-esque once again. Without him OR a different stud WR to intimidate opposing defense, I don't see them being much of a threat. A solid football team? Sure, but a team that will be knocked off in the Wild-Card or Divisional Playoffs. I'd be shocked if the Giants do not feel the same way as most of us, and as a result they will do everything they possibly can to win the Edwards derby.

 

[Yenrub]

The more important numbers would be these:

2008

With a big-play WR (Plax): 9-1

Without a big-play WR (Plax): 3-3

Note that the Giants had the same four WRs (Smith, Hixon, Manningham, Moss) in those games without Plax last season, and where they only won half their games, as they now have a week before the draft. With all the talent that the Giants have, they won't win the Super Bowl with a group of wideouts who are essentially WR3-caliber players.

I agree with you which is why I started off with "I understand that Edwards just being on the field would probably help the Giants because he is a deep threat"

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Braylon to Giants deal close to dead.....

Profootballtalk.com hears that a Braylon Edwards trade to the Giants is unlikely, despite two reports to the contrary.

PFT suggests both sides are "posturing," with Cleveland leaking rumors to drive up Edwards' market, and New York holding out "until the Browns drop their asking price" and Edwards his contract demands. The Browns are said to be asking for Mathias Kiwanuka. Edwards wants to be paid $10M a year.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

The more important numbers would be these:

2008

With a big-play WR (Plax): 9-1

Without a big-play WR (Plax): 3-3

Note that the Giants had the same four WRs (Smith, Hixon, Manningham, Moss) in those games without Plax last season, and where they only won half their games, as they now have a week before the draft. With all the talent that the Giants have, they won't win the Super Bowl with a group of wideouts who are essentially WR3-caliber players.

With Brandon Jacobs: 11-2Without Brandon Jacobs: 1-2

 

[Yenrub]

Braylon to Giants deal close to dead.....

Profootballtalk.com hears that a Braylon Edwards trade to the Giants is unlikely, despite two reports to the contrary.

PFT suggests both sides are "posturing," with Cleveland leaking rumors to drive up Edwards' market, and New York holding out "until the Browns drop their asking price" and Edwards his contract demands. The Browns are said to be asking for Mathias Kiwanuka. Edwards wants to be paid $10M a year.

Am I the only person who thinks that Kiwanuka is more valuable than Edwards?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Braylon to Giants deal close to dead.....

Profootballtalk.com hears that a Braylon Edwards trade to the Giants is unlikely, despite two reports to the contrary.

PFT suggests both sides are "posturing," with Cleveland leaking rumors to drive up Edwards' market, and New York holding out "until the Browns drop their asking price" and Edwards his contract demands. The Browns are said to be asking for Mathias Kiwanuka. Edwards wants to be paid $10M a year.

Am I the only person who thinks that Kiwanuka is more valuable than Edwards?

No. For one thing the Giants seem to think so. Most people seem to realize that a legit pass rusher is a more valuable commodity than a WR.The local NY papers are reporting that Arizona has made it know that Boldin is available and the Giants may be turning their atention that way.

 

[puckalicious]

The more important numbers would be these:

2008

With a big-play WR (Plax): 9-1

Without a big-play WR (Plax): 3-3

Note that the Giants had the same four WRs (Smith, Hixon, Manningham, Moss) in those games without Plax last season, and where they only won half their games, as they now have a week before the draft. With all the talent that the Giants have, they won't win the Super Bowl with a group of wideouts who are essentially WR3-caliber players.

Funny, I'm starting to view Edwards as a WR3 caliber player. Seriously though he seems to be the type that needs a stud QB to be a stud himself, and he won't be getting that in NY.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Braylon to Giants deal close to dead.....

Profootballtalk.com hears that a Braylon Edwards trade to the Giants is unlikely, despite two reports to the contrary.

PFT suggests both sides are "posturing," with Cleveland leaking rumors to drive up Edwards' market, and New York holding out "until the Browns drop their asking price" and Edwards his contract demands. The Browns are said to be asking for Mathias Kiwanuka. Edwards wants to be paid $10M a year.

Am I the only person who thinks that Kiwanuka is more valuable than Edwards?

I agree. Kiwanuka has much more value, imo.Edwards is already overpaid.

10MIL per year ? Come on.

 

[Avery]

Just head that Jerry Reece has called a press conference in 10 minutes.

 

[Yenrub]

Just head that Jerry Reece has called a press conference in 10 minutes.

Do you know if WFAN is going to carry it?

 

[Avery]

Just head that Jerry Reece has called a press conference in 10 minutes.

Do you know if WFAN is going to carry it?

Don't know but there is some chatter that it may be just a mundane pre-draft presser.

 

[JaYz0618]

Just head that Jerry Reece has called a press conference in 10 minutes.

Do you know if WFAN is going to carry it?

Don't know but there is some chatter that it may be just a mundane pre-draft presser.

Dont do this to me !

 

[eric rymer]

 

[JaYz0618]

Just head that Jerry Reece has called a press conference in 10 minutes.

Do you know if WFAN is going to carry it?

Don't know but there is some chatter that it may be just a mundane pre-draft presser.

Dont do this to me !

So what did they announce ? New urinals in the mens room !?

 

[TitusIII]

Wisenhunt throwing Boldin on the table right now? Sounds like they want a piece of what the Giants are about to throw at the Browns.

 

[Yenrub]

"I'm not talking about Braylon (Edwards)," Reese said Thursday in response to the first question -- the one everybody would love to have answered honestly. "That's somebody else's player. He's under contract, so I'm not talking about that. There's a lot of chatter. A lot of false reports."

I guess it was a pre-draft press conference Link

 

[Avery]

"I'm not talking about Braylon (Edwards)," Reese said Thursday in response to the first question -- the one everybody would love to have answered honestly. "That's somebody else's player. He's under contract, so I'm not talking about that. There's a lot of chatter. A lot of false reports."

I guess it was a pre-draft press conference Link

Full transcript here.Not much in here. Reese plays it close to the vest especially right before the draft. A (semi)interesting quote about Edwards in a round about way:

Q: When you look at a receiver and he has a problem with drops, do you factor in that you have Mike Sullivan as your position coach?

A: We try to factor in everything. Why is he dropping the ball? He may have a vision problem. What is going on around him? Is his team playing well? Is he having some type of conflict with his coach? You try to factor in as many factors as we can to figure out why the guy is dropping the ball. If you think the guy is – we call them “A” catchers and “B” catchers – if a guy is an “A” catcher and all of a sudden he is dropping the ball, it seems like probably there is something wrong on the outside that we don’t see; we don’t generally see. So “A” catchers just don’t become “B” and “C” catchers unless there is probably something wrong.

Reading between the lines, it seems to imply that Edwards drops last year is not a systemic but a correctable issue.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Per Tony Grossi of the PD

"Nevertheless, the interest in Massaquoi confirms, to me, that a trade of Braylon Edwards to New York is done. It just doesn't make sense for it to be announced until after the Browns make their first pick on Saturday"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...w_names_in.html

 

[MAC_32]

Per Tony Grossi of the PD

"Nevertheless, the interest in Massaquoi confirms, to me, that a trade of Braylon Edwards to New York is done. It just doesn't make sense for it to be announced until after the Browns make their first pick on Saturday"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...w_names_in.html

Our interest in a decent 2nd-4th round prospect confirms that we're dealing Braylon?If I had to bet I'd say he gets dealt, but Grossi...that's some piss poor logic right there.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Per Tony Grossi of the PD

"Nevertheless, the interest in Massaquoi confirms, to me, that a trade of Braylon Edwards to New York is done. It just doesn't make sense for it to be announced until after the Browns make their first pick on Saturday"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...w_names_in.html

Our interest in a decent 2nd-4th round prospect confirms that we're dealing Braylon?If I had to bet I'd say he gets dealt, but Grossi...that's some piss poor logic right there.

"Massaquoi is supposed to be one of the fastest-rising players in the draft, reputed to be elevating into high second-round territory."I agree in that I don't see how an interest in a 2nd round WR confirms the deal is done.

 

[TheFanatic]

Per Tony Grossi of the PD

"Nevertheless, the interest in Massaquoi confirms, to me, that a trade of Braylon Edwards to New York is done. It just doesn't make sense for it to be announced until after the Browns make their first pick on Saturday"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...w_names_in.html

Clayton on Mike and Mike this morning said they were still negotiating. That Cleveland wanted a 2 and a 5 IIRC and that the Giants only wanted to give the 2. Boldin was being shopped for a 1 and a 3 and that teams are willing to give the 1 but not the 3 and thus they are playing a bit of chicken right now on both counts to see who blinks....

 

[Avery]

Per Tony Grossi of the PD

"Nevertheless, the interest in Massaquoi confirms, to me, that a trade of Braylon Edwards to New York is done. It just doesn't make sense for it to be announced until after the Browns make their first pick on Saturday"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...w_names_in.html

Clayton on Mike and Mike this morning said they were still negotiating. That Cleveland wanted a 2 and a 5 IIRC and that the Giants only wanted to give the 2. Boldin was being shopped for a 1 and a 3 and that teams are willing to give the 1 but not the 3 and thus they are playing a bit of chicken right now on both counts to see who blinks....

I can't imagine that if the Giants aren't being asked for a 1st, that a 5th would hold things up, but you never know.Anyway, as a Giants fan, I'd be stoked to get Edwards without having to give up a 1st and basically having traded Shockey for Edwards. That would be fantastic.

 

[Yenrub]

Per Tony Grossi of the PD

"Nevertheless, the interest in Massaquoi confirms, to me, that a trade of Braylon Edwards to New York is done. It just doesn't make sense for it to be announced until after the Browns make their first pick on Saturday"

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...w_names_in.html

Clayton on Mike and Mike this morning said they were still negotiating. That Cleveland wanted a 2 and a 5 IIRC and that the Giants only wanted to give the 2. Boldin was being shopped for a 1 and a 3 and that teams are willing to give the 1 but not the 3 and thus they are playing a bit of chicken right now on both counts to see who blinks....

I can't imagine that if the Giants aren't being asked for a 1st, that a 5th would hold things up, but you never know.Anyway, as a Giants fan, I'd be stoked to get Edwards without having to give up a 1st and basically having traded Shockey for Edwards. That would be fantastic.

I agree.The 2nd the Giants got from the Saints and their own 5th sounds like a great deal for the Giants (so does the 5th from the Saints(

I wonder if the Giants are trying to convince the Browns that they can get Ocho Cinco for 2nd

 

[Two Deep]

The Giants are going to need someone with sticker hands than Edwards to catch those high, off target, wobbling ducks, that Manning throws.