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Update: Jonathan Stewart HAS surgery on his right toe (1 Viewer)

Stewart , as I painfully found out the last few years owning him in a College league, seemed like he was constantly banged up - one injury after another , with chucnks of missed time.

Made it frustrating as an owner...... not sure if I want to relive that in the NFL.

He has "enigma" potential written all over him.....

 
JohnnyU said:
Liquid Tension said:
Has anyone else heard this on NFL Network? Not trying to question whether or not this was made up, but so far no one else has come to post they heard the same thing and I'm not finding anything about this anywhere and I would think this would be pretty substantial news.
Johnny U wouldn't be making this up...plus he did get some links etc...
I don't blame anyone who questions the validitiy of such news without a link. It just took me awhile to find it. I don't know why I didn't go to nflnetwork.com and look for it from the beginning.
Thank you, JohnnyU and thanks again for both posting this and also looking for the link afterward. Much appreciated.
 
Liquid Tension said:
Has anyone else heard this on NFL Network? Not trying to question whether or not this was made up, but so far no one else has come to post they heard the same thing and I'm not finding anything about this anywhere and I would think this would be pretty substantial news.
Johnny U wouldn't be making this up...plus he did get some links etc...
Read my post #37. Plus, the links weren't there to start, they were added. Again, once they were, I immediately replied and thanked him. And I said "NOT TRYING TO QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS MADE UP". Seriously, why are there now 2 people complaining about someone asking for some verification of potentially big news?
I agree...asking for a link is no big deal.
 
If you don't need immediate help in fantasy, you could still draft him at 1.03 if Felix doesn't end up somewhere decent.

 
Sorry if this is a :honda:I was just watching NFL Network and they indicated that several GMs said Stewart needs surgery on his toe, and that it would take 4 or 5 months to heal. So, I could see him slipping in the NFL draft, and slip some in fantasy drafts.
April thru July if he has the surgery? I wouldn't drop him over that. He'll miss one OTAs, have plenty of time to learn the O in person and not miss a day of training camp.
Still not the kind of news I want to hear with the 1.2 pick I traded for in a dynasty draft. Of course I may like Mendenhall more anyway :lmao:
If true, then the value of the 1.02 relative to the 1.03 goes UP considerably.
 
Sorry if this is a :honda:I was just watching NFL Network and they indicated that several GMs said Stewart needs surgery on his toe, and that it would take 4 or 5 months to heal. So, I could see him slipping in the NFL draft, and slip some in fantasy drafts.
April thru July if he has the surgery? I wouldn't drop him over that. He'll miss one OTAs, have plenty of time to learn the O in person and not miss a day of training camp.
optimistic?
Toe injuries scare me, but every indication of this one is that it was minor, the capsule was worn not torn, there was no spur forming and the cartilage was in good shape. That's why he rested when he could but played every week. He even practiced on it. As I understand turf toe surgery, it is only done when a spur forms and limits movement. I could be wrong about that and they are nasty conditions that recur and get worse. Okay, the more I think about this the bigger deal it becomes for me. Turf toe is pretty stinkin' serious. I guess I just didn't want to believe it when so much smoke blows this time of year.
Isn't Turf Toe one the injuries that has plagued Chris Brown? I agree that it is serious because it seems to be something that hangs around and comes back.
 
Sorry if this is a :honda:I was just watching NFL Network and they indicated that several GMs said Stewart needs surgery on his toe, and that it would take 4 or 5 months to heal. So, I could see him slipping in the NFL draft, and slip some in fantasy drafts.
April thru July if he has the surgery? I wouldn't drop him over that. He'll miss one OTAs, have plenty of time to learn the O in person and not miss a day of training camp.
optimistic?
Toe injuries scare me, but every indication of this one is that it was minor, the capsule was worn not torn, there was no spur forming and the cartilage was in good shape. That's why he rested when he could but played every week. He even practiced on it. As I understand turf toe surgery, it is only done when a spur forms and limits movement. I could be wrong about that and they are nasty conditions that recur and get worse. Okay, the more I think about this the bigger deal it becomes for me. Turf toe is pretty stinkin' serious. I guess I just didn't want to believe it when so much smoke blows this time of year.
Isn't Turf Toe one the injuries that has plagued Chris Brown?
I know neon deion wasnt a big fan of turf toe.
 
NFL Network Adam S reported that Stewart elected to have surgery and that it was a stress fracture at the top of the foot like turf toe. He said he will miss 4 months. This sounds like good news for Jonathan Stewart in that it wasn't really turf toe. Of course any fracture to the foot isn't good, and I don't know if a stress fracture at the top of the foot is worse than anywhere else on the foot.

Edited to say it was the toe. I don't know why he said "top of the foot", when he could have said the big toe. Either way, I guess it was a stress fracture to the toe, "like turf toe", is what he meant.

 
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Like I said, the real test will come in April. NFL teams are going to poke and prod this guy until they reach a firm conclusion about his health status. If he still ends up being a top 25 pick after all this hoopla then I think there's probably little cause for concern. Rampant speculation based on hearsay isn't going to help us get a great picture of his prospects one way or another.

 
Update - also posted in the OP. In addition to Adam S making an update, I found this link.

Link

Jonathan Stewart Has Surgery

Posted by Aaron Fentress March 13, 2008 15:38PM

Categories: NFL Local Ties

Former Oregon running back Jonathan Stewart had surgery on his injured right toe Thursday, putting him on the sideline for at least three months and potentially hurting his stock in April's NFL Draft.

Stewart, expected to be a first-round selection, has been bothered by the injury commonly referred to as "turf toe" since he was injured during a game at Arizona on Nov. 15.

Stewart finished the season playing in pain and appeared at the NFL combine last month where he sat out some drills because of discomfort in his toe.

However, he performed well, running the 40-yard dash in 4.48 seconds and leaped 36 inches at 235 pounds and solidified himself on most mock draft boards as a mid-first round pick, potentially to Arizona at No. 16 or Houston at No. 18.

He was originally scheduled to workout for scouts at Oregon's second Pro Day on April 20.

NFLDraftScout.com draft analyst Rob Rang said the injury shouldn't hurt Stewart's stock much, if at all.

Rang, who was at the combine, said teams were already aware of the injury and the potential that Stewart could need surgery.

Rang said that a team eyeing Stewart in the first round likely won't pass on him because of this injury, even though lower-leg injuries are always a concern for running backs.

"At the end of the day you just have to turn on the film and you can see that the kid can play," Rang said.

Calls to Stewart and his agent were not yet returned.
 
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Rotoworlds take on this -

NFL Headlines

Oregon RB Stewart has surgery, out 4-6 months

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart underwent surgery on his big toe Wednesday. He'll be out four to six months.

If Stewart heals quickly, he'll have a chance to be ready before the start of training camp. Still, Stewart will miss all pre-camp work and his draft status will likely be affected severely. It's a somewhat similar situation to Adrian Peterson's in 2007, but Stewart's potential isn't on that level. It wouldn't be a surprise to see him fall to round two. Mar. 13 - 6:51 pm et

I guess it's possible.

 
If Willis McGahee destroyed his knee and still got drafted in the first round, I'm betting that Jonathan Stewart also will wind up a first rounder. I think this could be a blessing for fantasy owners willing to take a long-term approach because he'll be going to a much better situation if he's drafted in the late first round.

 
Rotoworlds take on this -

NFL Headlines

Oregon RB Stewart has surgery, out 4-6 months

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart underwent surgery on his big toe Wednesday. He'll be out four to six months.

If Stewart heals quickly, he'll have a chance to be ready before the start of training camp. Still, Stewart will miss all pre-camp work and his draft status will likely be affected severely. It's a somewhat similar situation to Adrian Peterson's in 2007, but Stewart's potential isn't on that level. It wouldn't be a surprise to see him fall to round two. Mar. 13 - 6:51 pm et

I guess it's possible.
I think a FBGuy said this weeks ago? Can't remember who that was? :lmao:
 
Total smokescreen...He saw too many mocks that had him going to the LIONS so he faked the surgery to avoid ending up on that disaster of a franchise!!!!! Then when KJ got cut he HAD the surgery :lmao:

 
Rotoworlds take on this -

NFL Headlines

Oregon RB Stewart has surgery, out 4-6 months

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart underwent surgery on his big toe Wednesday. He'll be out four to six months.

If Stewart heals quickly, he'll have a chance to be ready before the start of training camp. Still, Stewart will miss all pre-camp work and his draft status will likely be affected severely. It's a somewhat similar situation to Adrian Peterson's in 2007, but Stewart's potential isn't on that level. It wouldn't be a surprise to see him fall to round two. Mar. 13 - 6:51 pm et

I guess it's possible.
I think a FBGuy said this weeks ago? Can't remember who that was? :popcorn:
Yeah, I'm sure that fbg knew he was going to have surgery :lmao:
 
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Rotoworlds take on this -

NFL Headlines

Oregon RB Stewart has surgery, out 4-6 months

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart underwent surgery on his big toe Wednesday. He'll be out four to six months.

If Stewart heals quickly, he'll have a chance to be ready before the start of training camp. Still, Stewart will miss all pre-camp work and his draft status will likely be affected severely. It's a somewhat similar situation to Adrian Peterson's in 2007, but Stewart's potential isn't on that level. It wouldn't be a surprise to see him fall to round two. Mar. 13 - 6:51 pm et

I guess it's possible.
I think a FBGuy said this weeks ago? Can't remember who that was? :lmao:
Yeah, I'm sure that fbg knew he was going to have surgery :thumbup:
Maybe He did. :lmao: Maybe it explains Stewarts poor cutting.Just saying.

 
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Rotoworlds take on this -

NFL Headlines

Oregon RB Stewart has surgery, out 4-6 months

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart underwent surgery on his big toe Wednesday. He'll be out four to six months.

If Stewart heals quickly, he'll have a chance to be ready before the start of training camp. Still, Stewart will miss all pre-camp work and his draft status will likely be affected severely. It's a somewhat similar situation to Adrian Peterson's in 2007, but Stewart's potential isn't on that level. It wouldn't be a surprise to see him fall to round two. Mar. 13 - 6:51 pm et

I guess it's possible.
I think a FBGuy said this weeks ago? Can't remember who that was? :lmao:
Yeah, I'm sure that fbg knew he was going to have surgery :thumbup:
Maybe He did. :lmao: Maybe it explains Stewarts poor cutting.Just saying.
LOL
 
What are the long term effects of a condition such as this? Will this really threaten Stewart's career long term? I was trying to think of some players that actually had their career end due to a turf toe condition, and couldn't really think of too many. Thoughts or info would be appreciated...

 
Rotoworlds take on this -

NFL Headlines

Oregon RB Stewart has surgery, out 4-6 months

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart underwent surgery on his big toe Wednesday. He'll be out four to six months.

If Stewart heals quickly, he'll have a chance to be ready before the start of training camp. Still, Stewart will miss all pre-camp work and his draft status will likely be affected severely. It's a somewhat similar situation to Adrian Peterson's in 2007, but Stewart's potential isn't on that level. It wouldn't be a surprise to see him fall to round two. Mar. 13 - 6:51 pm et

I guess it's possible.
I think a FBGuy said this weeks ago? Can't remember who that was? :coffee:
Gloating in this case is bad, and hurts your credibility. Everyone knows that you have been down on Stewart due to questions about his ability, not due to this injury.
 
I have to think one of these prospects with injury questions will fall. Stewart, Dorsey, Merling. Stewart seems most likely, as there are a lot of backs in the league, and many teams not really hurting at the position.

I have now heard "knee surgery" as well as "stress fracture" for Dorsey, and am wondering if an Alan Branch-type slide is possible.

This may be a slight hijack, and I apologize. If anyone wants to keep throwing feces with the monkey, please continue.

 
I have to think one of these prospects with injury questions will fall. Stewart, Dorsey, Merling. Stewart seems most likely, as there are a lot of backs in the league, and many teams not really hurting at the position.I have now heard "knee surgery" as well as "stress fracture" for Dorsey, and am wondering if an Alan Branch-type slide is possible. This may be a slight hijack, and I apologize. If anyone wants to keep throwing feces with the monkey, please continue.
:thumbup: I heard the same thing about Dorsey. He is rumored to have had a secret knee surgery. A slide for him seems very possible to me. I also think he'll be a steal if it happens. The McGahee example is sound for Stewart. I think he should continue to carry a top 20 value, but if he doesn't then he'll also be a steal (for Dallas if you please). Jedimaster -- I've been meaning to dig around on these turf toe surgeries, but when I try, I get frustrated. I think most athletes find a way to play through the pain. I think Charles Woodson, while at Oakland, was hobbled by turf toe, missed a bunch of games, performed poorly while trying to play on it, and finally opted for surgery to see his career revived in GB. Like any injury the grade of damage is key to any long term prognosis.
 
Like I said, the real test will come in April. NFL teams are going to poke and prod this guy until they reach a firm conclusion about his health status. If he still ends up being a top 25 pick after all this hoopla then I think there's probably little cause for concern. Rampant speculation based on hearsay isn't going to help us get a great picture of his prospects one way or another.
:goodposting: Voice of reason
 
Like I said, the real test will come in April. NFL teams are going to poke and prod this guy until they reach a firm conclusion about his health status. If he still ends up being a top 25 pick after all this hoopla then I think there's probably little cause for concern. Rampant speculation based on hearsay isn't going to help us get a great picture of his prospects one way or another.
:goodposting: Voice of reason
I would agree except that April is awfully early in the recovery/rehabilitation process to get a good view of how successful the surgery was. Given the fact that high (NFL) draft picks spent on RB's as opposed to other positions have been of questionable value anyway, I could see Stewart sliding into the second round just out of doubt. If he got drafted at, for example, 2.05 rather than around the middle of the first round like most expected him to, I'm not sure that that's really a good statement of his prognosis.
 
Like I said, the real test will come in April. NFL teams are going to poke and prod this guy until they reach a firm conclusion about his health status. If he still ends up being a top 25 pick after all this hoopla then I think there's probably little cause for concern. Rampant speculation based on hearsay isn't going to help us get a great picture of his prospects one way or another.
:lmao: Voice of reason
I would agree except that April is awfully early in the recovery/rehabilitation process to get a good view of how successful the surgery was. Given the fact that high (NFL) draft picks spent on RB's as opposed to other positions have been of questionable value anyway, I could see Stewart sliding into the second round just out of doubt. If he got drafted at, for example, 2.05 rather than around the middle of the first round like most expected him to, I'm not sure that that's really a good statement of his prognosis.
I guess, just in terms of dynasty value, a injury of this stature would not have me change my ranking on Stewart as others in the thread have indicated.
 
Rotoworlds take on this -

NFL Headlines

Oregon RB Stewart has surgery, out 4-6 months

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart underwent surgery on his big toe Wednesday. He'll be out four to six months.

If Stewart heals quickly, he'll have a chance to be ready before the start of training camp. Still, Stewart will miss all pre-camp work and his draft status will likely be affected severely. It's a somewhat similar situation to Adrian Peterson's in 2007, but Stewart's potential isn't on that level. It wouldn't be a surprise to see him fall to round two. Mar. 13 - 6:51 pm et

I guess it's possible.
I think a FBGuy said this weeks ago? Can't remember who that was? :shrug:
Yeah, I'm sure that fbg knew he was going to have surgery :goodposting:
Maybe He did. :thumbdown: Maybe it explains Stewarts poor cutting.Just saying.
LOL
Now, let's give credit where credit is due. I am very impressed FBGuy69 saw this coming. He hasn't even logged in since late 2006. I gave him a 5 star rating. :thumbdown:
 
Like I said, the real test will come in April. NFL teams are going to poke and prod this guy until they reach a firm conclusion about his health status. If he still ends up being a top 25 pick after all this hoopla then I think there's probably little cause for concern. Rampant speculation based on hearsay isn't going to help us get a great picture of his prospects one way or another.
:goodposting: Voice of reason
I would agree except that April is awfully early in the recovery/rehabilitation process to get a good view of how successful the surgery was. Given the fact that high (NFL) draft picks spent on RB's as opposed to other positions have been of questionable value anyway, I could see Stewart sliding into the second round just out of doubt. If he got drafted at, for example, 2.05 rather than around the middle of the first round like most expected him to, I'm not sure that that's really a good statement of his prognosis.
I guess, just in terms of dynasty value, a injury of this stature would not have me change my ranking on Stewart as others in the thread have indicated.
That's my point though - an injury of what stature? The problem with this sort of injury is that its effects upon a NFL player can range from absolutely nothing to career ending. That's a major risk for a team to be taking with its first round draft pick and the cap room spent on him, and like I said April seems early to me to get a good read on his long term recovery. What will be interesting is whether an already good team in the late first round, such as for example Pittsburgh, Seattle or Dallas, opt to take a flier on his injury and grab him.
 
Like I said, the real test will come in April. NFL teams are going to poke and prod this guy until they reach a firm conclusion about his health status. If he still ends up being a top 25 pick after all this hoopla then I think there's probably little cause for concern. Rampant speculation based on hearsay isn't going to help us get a great picture of his prospects one way or another.
:tinfoilhat: Voice of reason
I would agree except that April is awfully early in the recovery/rehabilitation process to get a good view of how successful the surgery was. Given the fact that high (NFL) draft picks spent on RB's as opposed to other positions have been of questionable value anyway, I could see Stewart sliding into the second round just out of doubt. If he got drafted at, for example, 2.05 rather than around the middle of the first round like most expected him to, I'm not sure that that's really a good statement of his prognosis.
I guess, just in terms of dynasty value, a injury of this stature would not have me change my ranking on Stewart as others in the thread have indicated.
That's my point though - an injury of what stature? The problem with this sort of injury is that its effects upon a NFL player can range from absolutely nothing to career ending. That's a major risk for a team to be taking with its first round draft pick and the cap room spent on him, and like I said April seems early to me to get a good read on his long term recovery. What will be interesting is whether an already good team in the late first round, such as for example Pittsburgh, Seattle or Dallas, opt to take a flier on his injury and grab him.
After seeing Mcgahee's leg explode and be picked in the 1st RD and become successful, a toe injury doesn't care me.So yes, even if the prognosis is bad in April/May/June I like Stewart's long term prospects too much to pass up on his talents.I can understand concern, but some people sound like they will simply pass on him based on this info.
 
comfortably numb said:
redman said:
comfortably numb said:
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comfortably numb said:
Like I said, the real test will come in April. NFL teams are going to poke and prod this guy until they reach a firm conclusion about his health status. If he still ends up being a top 25 pick after all this hoopla then I think there's probably little cause for concern. Rampant speculation based on hearsay isn't going to help us get a great picture of his prospects one way or another.
:confused: Voice of reason
I would agree except that April is awfully early in the recovery/rehabilitation process to get a good view of how successful the surgery was. Given the fact that high (NFL) draft picks spent on RB's as opposed to other positions have been of questionable value anyway, I could see Stewart sliding into the second round just out of doubt. If he got drafted at, for example, 2.05 rather than around the middle of the first round like most expected him to, I'm not sure that that's really a good statement of his prognosis.
I guess, just in terms of dynasty value, a injury of this stature would not have me change my ranking on Stewart as others in the thread have indicated.
That's my point though - an injury of what stature? The problem with this sort of injury is that its effects upon a NFL player can range from absolutely nothing to career ending. That's a major risk for a team to be taking with its first round draft pick and the cap room spent on him, and like I said April seems early to me to get a good read on his long term recovery. What will be interesting is whether an already good team in the late first round, such as for example Pittsburgh, Seattle or Dallas, opt to take a flier on his injury and grab him.
After seeing Mcgahee's leg explode and be picked in the 1st RD and become successful, a toe injury doesn't care me.So yes, even if the prognosis is bad in April/May/June I like Stewart's long term prospects too much to pass up on his talents.I can understand concern, but some people sound like they will simply pass on him based on this info.
:goodposting:Im not a Stewart fan, but when I saw Willis's injury, I didnt think he would ever play again
 
Rotoworlds take on this -

NFL Headlines

Oregon RB Stewart has surgery, out 4-6 months

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart underwent surgery on his big toe Wednesday. He'll be out four to six months.

If Stewart heals quickly, he'll have a chance to be ready before the start of training camp. Still, Stewart will miss all pre-camp work and his draft status will likely be affected severely. It's a somewhat similar situation to Adrian Peterson's in 2007, but Stewart's potential isn't on that level. It wouldn't be a surprise to see him fall to round two. Mar. 13 - 6:51 pm et

I guess it's possible.
I think a FBGuy said this weeks ago? Can't remember who that was? :confused:
Gloating in this case is bad, and hurts your credibility. Everyone knows that you have been down on Stewart due to questions about his ability, not due to this injury.
It's all good. I do hear that Stewart will be taken in the 1st round.

So I guess I was wrong.

 
Like I said, the real test will come in April. NFL teams are going to poke and prod this guy until they reach a firm conclusion about his health status. If he still ends up being a top 25 pick after all this hoopla then I think there's probably little cause for concern. Rampant speculation based on hearsay isn't going to help us get a great picture of his prospects one way or another.
:goodposting: Voice of reason
I would agree except that April is awfully early in the recovery/rehabilitation process to get a good view of how successful the surgery was. Given the fact that high (NFL) draft picks spent on RB's as opposed to other positions have been of questionable value anyway, I could see Stewart sliding into the second round just out of doubt. If he got drafted at, for example, 2.05 rather than around the middle of the first round like most expected him to, I'm not sure that that's really a good statement of his prognosis.
I guess, just in terms of dynasty value, a injury of this stature would not have me change my ranking on Stewart as others in the thread have indicated.
That's my point though - an injury of what stature? The problem with this sort of injury is that its effects upon a NFL player can range from absolutely nothing to career ending. That's a major risk for a team to be taking with its first round draft pick and the cap room spent on him, and like I said April seems early to me to get a good read on his long term recovery. What will be interesting is whether an already good team in the late first round, such as for example Pittsburgh, Seattle or Dallas, opt to take a flier on his injury and grab him.
After seeing Mcgahee's leg explode and be picked in the 1st RD and become successful, a toe injury doesn't care me.So yes, even if the prognosis is bad in April/May/June I like Stewart's long term prospects too much to pass up on his talents.I can understand concern, but some people sound like they will simply pass on him based on this info.
:bag:Im not a Stewart fan, but when I saw Willis's injury, I didnt think he would ever play again
So a knee injury is the same as a toe injury? How far afield are we going to get on the human anatomy before we decide that one person's recovery from one injury is irrelevant to someone else's recovery from another injury?
 
Like I said, the real test will come in April. NFL teams are going to poke and prod this guy until they reach a firm conclusion about his health status. If he still ends up being a top 25 pick after all this hoopla then I think there's probably little cause for concern. Rampant speculation based on hearsay isn't going to help us get a great picture of his prospects one way or another.
:thumbup: Voice of reason
I would agree except that April is awfully early in the recovery/rehabilitation process to get a good view of how successful the surgery was. Given the fact that high (NFL) draft picks spent on RB's as opposed to other positions have been of questionable value anyway, I could see Stewart sliding into the second round just out of doubt. If he got drafted at, for example, 2.05 rather than around the middle of the first round like most expected him to, I'm not sure that that's really a good statement of his prognosis.
I guess, just in terms of dynasty value, a injury of this stature would not have me change my ranking on Stewart as others in the thread have indicated.
That's my point though - an injury of what stature? The problem with this sort of injury is that its effects upon a NFL player can range from absolutely nothing to career ending. That's a major risk for a team to be taking with its first round draft pick and the cap room spent on him, and like I said April seems early to me to get a good read on his long term recovery. What will be interesting is whether an already good team in the late first round, such as for example Pittsburgh, Seattle or Dallas, opt to take a flier on his injury and grab him.
After seeing Mcgahee's leg explode and be picked in the 1st RD and become successful, a toe injury doesn't care me.So yes, even if the prognosis is bad in April/May/June I like Stewart's long term prospects too much to pass up on his talents.I can understand concern, but some people sound like they will simply pass on him based on this info.
:lmao:Im not a Stewart fan, but when I saw Willis's injury, I didnt think he would ever play again
So a knee injury is the same as a toe injury? How far afield are we going to get on the human anatomy before we decide that one person's recovery from one injury is irrelevant to someone else's recovery from another injury?
Doc please explain.
 

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