Upside Outfielders Who might be on your wire (1 Viewer)

[Smack Tripper]

So I"m not quite looking for the next Quentin, but younger guys who could break out. Sort of looking to get a compendium of all the names and who you might like or dislike in particular. Not limited to rookies, but a focus on youth is obvious in such a consideration. As I understand them and PLEASE enlighten me above and beyond my list, I did little reserach this year:

-Nelson Cruz- probably not a waiver guy, but the conversation seems to start with him, caught him a few times last year, seemed like a player

-Travis Snider- love to hear people's thoughts on him, I don't know much

-Chris Dickerson- 4th OF in Cincy currently, lefty stick behind righties Tavares and Hopper, none of whom set the world on fire. Nice park, should see ABs and put up a good six weeks last year

-Jason Kubel- Could finally be healthy and staying at DH, I could see him reaching a higher level this year. Leg injuries have killed all speed

-Brett Gardner- really dubious inclusion here, I don't have much faith, he's got no HR power, but if he can get on base, he should steal quite a bit, batting 9th in front of Jeter's leadoff slot

-Colby Rasmus- potential posterboy for the frequent new tag of "post hype sleeper", ala Morneau a few years ago. Hasn't done much yet, but espn has him starting currently, what are your thoughts?

-Seth Smith- COL LF, don't know much about him, gotta like any one's chances out there though

Guys opening on the farm that are intriguing potential early call ups:

-Matt LoPora,CLE

-Jordan Schaffer, ATL

-Andrew Mctutchon(sp?) PIT

And then some of the usual suspects who could bounce back or bounce up I suppose

-Francoeur

-Ross

-####odome

-Griffey Jr

-David Murphy

-Brandon Moss

-Ty Wigginton(playing in Baltimore)

Who could break out of the bunch? Who is toxic?

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[pantagrapher]

Ryan Spilborghs

Travis Buck

Felix Pie

Elijah Dukes

Jeremy Hermida

I would classify F-dome as toxic. I don't anticipate much if any improvement this year.

 

[MAC_32]

In order of confidence

Choo

Pacman

Daniel Murphy

Elijah Dukes

Kubel

Sheff

Dickerson

Francisco

 

[Eephus]

Franklin Gutierrez would be an option in deeper leagues

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

where does jordan schaffer go on this list?

 

[MAC_32]

where does jordan schaffer go on this list?

Near the bottom.

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

where does jordan schaffer go on this list?

Near the bottom.

Really? Why? What is the report on him? I've been looking for something online but haven't found much other than he's a top propsect who sat out a roid suspension last year.

 

[The Hank]

Andrew McCutchen is how it's spelled.

HTH

 

[Finless]

Andrew McCutchen is how it's spelled.

HTH

Thanks Hank

BRANDON MOSS

 

[cosjobs]

Kendry Morales - He'll play 1B, but be OF eligible

Rivera LAA - not a bad stab for free/cheap

Seth Smith - would not be the first COL OF to come out of nowhere to have have real value

I like most of those previously mentioned, but few, if any of those are available in any of the leagues I am in. Those I ahve listed are lightly owned.

 

[Spartans Rule]

where does jordan schaffer go on this list?

Near the bottom.

Really? Why? What is the report on him? I've been looking for something online but haven't found much other than he's a top propsect who sat out a roid suspension last year.

He's 22, has never played beyond Double A and has a career minor league OPS of .786. He hit .269 with 10 HR, 12 SB and 88 strikeouts in half a season at Double A last year.His biggest strength is defense which is probably why he's making the Braves. His ST offensive numbers are nice, but that's a small sample of meaningless games. His minor league record suggests that any fantasy-worthy offensive contributions are still a ways off.

 

[cosjobs]

where does jordan schaffer go on this list?

Near the bottom.

Really? Why? What is the report on him? I've been looking for something online but haven't found much other than he's a top propsect who sat out a roid suspension last year.

He's 22, has never played beyond Double A and has a career minor league OPS of .786. He hit .269 with 10 HR, 12 SB and 88 strikeouts in half a season at Double A last year.His biggest strength is defense which is probably why he's making the Braves. His ST offensive numbers are nice, but that's a small sample of meaningless games. His minor league record suggests that any fantasy-worthy offensive contributions are still a ways off.

Not sure I don;t side with the muffdiver here.He missed 50 games with steroid allegations last season and seems to have come back with a chip on his shoulder. I think the talent is there and if he can keep his "prove something" attitude, he could be a steal. Sure he's hi-risk, but at his waiver wire price, he's worth a shot with solid upside.

 

[Daywalker]

N. Morgan from Pitt is a prime SB target.

 

[Finless]

Rajai Davis is one injury away from stealing 90 bases.

 

[harryhood]

where does jordan schaffer go on this list?

Near the bottom.

Really? Why? What is the report on him? I've been looking for something online but haven't found much other than he's a top propsect who sat out a roid suspension last year.

He's 22, has never played beyond Double A and has a career minor league OPS of .786. He hit .269 with 10 HR, 12 SB and 88 strikeouts in half a season at Double A last year.His biggest strength is defense which is probably why he's making the Braves. His ST offensive numbers are nice, but that's a small sample of meaningless games. His minor league record suggests that any fantasy-worthy offensive contributions are still a ways off.

Not sure I don;t side with the muffdiver here.He missed 50 games with steroid allegations last season and seems to have come back with a chip on his shoulder. I think the talent is there and if he can keep his "prove something" attitude, he could be a steal. Sure he's hi-risk, but at his waiver wire price, he's worth a shot with solid upside.

With Josh Anderson being traded to Detroit, it looks like Schafer controls his own destiny the next couple days. Lots of press saying that trade all but solidifies his spot in CF.

 

[Da Guru]

Choo-Choo is on my waiver wire..does the guy have game?

Jason Werth? Is he werth picking up?

 

[harryhood]

Choo-Choo is on my waiver wire..does the guy have game?Jason Werth? Is he werth picking up?

Depends on how deep your league is/ # of OF spots, but I have seen Werth going in the top 150 picks pretty regularly

 

[MAC_32]

where does jordan schaffer go on this list?

Near the bottom.

Really? Why? What is the report on him? I've been looking for something online but haven't found much other than he's a top propsect who sat out a roid suspension last year.

He's 22, has never played beyond Double A and has a career minor league OPS of .786. He hit .269 with 10 HR, 12 SB and 88 strikeouts in half a season at Double A last year.His biggest strength is defense which is probably why he's making the Braves. His ST offensive numbers are nice, but that's a small sample of meaningless games. His minor league record suggests that any fantasy-worthy offensive contributions are still a ways off.

If he gets hot and moves near the top of the order this guy could be $ but I don't think that will happen.

 

[MAC_32]

Choo-Choo is on my waiver wire..does the guy have game?Jason Werth? Is he werth picking up?

Werth is in my top 25 OF's, Choo's in my top 35.I'm guessing my answer will be 'yes' to Werth regardless of league format, Choo depends on if you're in a real shallow league or not.

 

[Finless]

Choo-Choo is on my waiver wire..does the guy have game?Jason Werth? Is he werth picking up?

Yes

 

[guru_007]

In order of confidence

Choo

Pacman

Daniel Murphy

Elijah Dukes

Kubel

Sheff

Dickerson

Francisco

 

[MAC_32]

In order of confidence

Choo

Pacman

Daniel Murphy

Elijah Dukes

Kubel

Sheff

Dickerson

Francisco

edit: just dumped him for Dewayne Wise...because...well...everyone else mentioned so far in this thread is already rostered.

 

[Eephus]

In order of confidence

Choo

Pacman

Daniel Murphy

Elijah Dukes

Kubel

Sheff

Dickerson

Francisco

Doesn't say much for Dickerson & Francisco

 

[Sammy3469]

2 other names Dexter Fowler (COL) and Emilio Bonificio (2B/3B/OF FLA)....both look like they're making their teams in some fashion (with Bonificio at 3B). Bonficio has no power, but if he makes the team will probably lead off scoring some R and getting some SB.

The other two interesting options (though more at 2B than OF) are Teahan and Schumaker who are being moved to 2B, but will maintain their OF eligibility for the year. Neither will light the world on fire, but Schumaker has some value in AVG leagues.

 

[guru_007]

Teahan is going to have to prove it to me. I have him rostered in one league, as he makes an interesting prospect at 2B and is having a nice spring. But dude has burned me repeatedly in the past <_<

 

[Sammy3469]

Teahan is going to have to prove it to me. I have him rostered in one league, as he makes an interesting prospect at 2B and is having a nice spring. But dude has burned me repeatedly in the past <_<

Like I said I wouldn't play either in an OF position, but they could be interesting options at MI

 

[MAC_32]

2 other names Dexter Fowler (COL) and Emilio Bonificio (2B/3B/OF FLA)....both look like they're making their teams in some fashion (with Bonificio at 3B). Bonficio has no power, but if he makes the team will probably lead off scoring some R and getting some SB.The other two interesting options (though more at 2B than OF) are Teahan and Schumaker who are being moved to 2B, but will maintain their OF eligibility for the year. Neither will light the world on fire, but Schumaker has some value in AVG leagues.

Bonifacio has OF eligibility?

 

[Sammy3469]

2 other names Dexter Fowler (COL) and Emilio Bonificio (2B/3B/OF FLA)....both look like they're making their teams in some fashion (with Bonificio at 3B). Bonficio has no power, but if he makes the team will probably lead off scoring some R and getting some SB.The other two interesting options (though more at 2B than OF) are Teahan and Schumaker who are being moved to 2B, but will maintain their OF eligibility for the year. Neither will light the world on fire, but Schumaker has some value in AVG leagues.

Bonifacio has OF eligibility?

My mistake...he does in my local league for some reason, but not in yahoo or espn.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Choo-Choo is on my waiver wire..does the guy have game?Jason Werth? Is he werth picking up?

Depends on how deep your league is/ # of OF spots, but I have seen Werth going in the top 150 picks pretty regularly

The probelm with Werth is we just don't know if he is too fragile to play 140+ games. Now he finally has an opportunity and he should run with it playing in the hietter friendly confines. I am a big fan of both Werth and Ibanez this year because of their situations.Choo is extremely intriguing, but so far he hasn't been much of a secret in the auctions I have been in. If you can get him for a low enough $ value then he is absolutely worth owning...unfortunately his price has been getting driven up to the poitn where he looks about break even.

 

[Eephus]

Choo-Choo is on my waiver wire..does the guy have game?Jason Werth? Is he werth picking up?

Depends on how deep your league is/ # of OF spots, but I have seen Werth going in the top 150 picks pretty regularly

The probelm with Werth is we just don't know if he is too fragile to play 140+ games. Now he finally has an opportunity and he should run with it playing in the hietter friendly confines. I am a big fan of both Werth and Ibanez this year because of their situations.Choo is extremely intriguing, but so far he hasn't been much of a secret in the auctions I have been in. If you can get him for a low enough $ value then he is absolutely worth owning...unfortunately his price has been getting driven up to the poitn where he looks about break even.

Werth still has to prove he's not a platoon player. His splits have been always significant. Even in his breakout year, he only hit .255/.360/.407 against RHP. If he's an everyday player, you just can't extrapolate his 2008 production over a larger number of ABs.

 

[DynOmite]

Choo-Choo is on my waiver wire..does the guy have game?Jason Werth? Is he werth picking up?

Depends on how deep your league is/ # of OF spots, but I have seen Werth going in the top 150 picks pretty regularly

The probelm with Werth is we just don't know if he is too fragile to play 140+ games. Now he finally has an opportunity and he should run with it playing in the hietter friendly confines. I am a big fan of both Werth and Ibanez this year because of their situations.Choo is extremely intriguing, but so far he hasn't been much of a secret in the auctions I have been in. If you can get him for a low enough $ value then he is absolutely worth owning...unfortunately his price has been getting driven up to the poitn where he looks about break even.

Are you in any AL Only Auctions? If so, what has Choo gone for?

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Choo-Choo is on my waiver wire..does the guy have game?Jason Werth? Is he werth picking up?

Depends on how deep your league is/ # of OF spots, but I have seen Werth going in the top 150 picks pretty regularly

The probelm with Werth is we just don't know if he is too fragile to play 140+ games. Now he finally has an opportunity and he should run with it playing in the hietter friendly confines. I am a big fan of both Werth and Ibanez this year because of their situations.Choo is extremely intriguing, but so far he hasn't been much of a secret in the auctions I have been in. If you can get him for a low enough $ value then he is absolutely worth owning...unfortunately his price has been getting driven up to the poitn where he looks about break even.

Are you in any AL Only Auctions? If so, what has Choo gone for?

Mixed league he went for $8 in one and $10 in the other. I had a bid cap at $5 on him, though I can certainly see him earning $8-$10...but that would just be break even...which i guess would be better than underperforming.

 

[Angry Beavers]

Spillboroughs - OF COL - he supplies a little bit of everything and is hitting at the top of the lineup

 

[Buckfast 1]

With the release of Gary Sheffield in Detroit, it looks like Marcus Thames could see a significant increase in at-bats this season.

As you probably know from the last 3 seasons, Thames is basically a low OBP slugger who has hit around 25 HRs in around 320 at bats. He hits home runs from both sides of the plate. If he gets around 500 at bats, he could easily surpass 30 HRs this season, which is more than you can say for a lot of the other guys that might be hanging around on the waiver wire.

If you can handle the hit in BA or OBP and need some added power, Marcus Thames could definitely be a nice source of HRs this season.

 

[Spartans Rule]

With the release of Gary Sheffield in Detroit, it looks like Marcus Thames could see a significant increase in at-bats this season. As you probably know from the last 3 seasons, Thames is basically a low OBP slugger who has hit around 25 HRs in around 320 at bats. He hits home runs from both sides of the plate. If he gets around 500 at bats, he could easily surpass 30 HRs this season, which is more than you can say for a lot of the other guys that might be hanging around on the waiver wire. If you can handle the hit in BA or OBP and need some added power, Marcus Thames could definitely be a nice source of HRs this season.

I like Thames, but don't know if he'll be a full-time player. His career OPS is 87 points higher vs. lefties and I'd guess the righties he's faced haven't been the best. Josh Anderson is a lefty and the Tigers may want to find him some PT.From a fantasy standpoint, regardless of whether Thames gets the job I like him best as a platoon guy to get in the lineup vs. lefties and leave on the bench otherwise. His 1B/OF eligibility is nice too.

 

[Angry Beavers]

Daniel Murphy LF - NYM - could be getting regular AB's in the 2 hole

 

[harryhood]

Daniel Murphy LF - NYM - could WILL be getting regular AB's and a majority could come in the 2 hole

AB. Fixed just a tad. I am pretty high on him and the organization wont stop gushing over him. I think he performs whether he is in the 2 or 6 holes. He seems to be a hitting machine.

 

[Angry Beavers]

Daniel Murphy LF - NYM - could WILL be getting regular AB's and a majority could come in the 2 hole

AB. Fixed just a tad. I am pretty high on him and the organization wont stop gushing over him. I think he performs whether he is in the 2 or 6 holes. He seems to be a hitting machine.

Fair enough. I did not want to overstate his value but I think he is a steal out there on the WW of a lot of leagues right now!

 

[MAC_32]

Daniel Murphy LF - NYM - could WILL be getting regular AB's and a majority could come in the 2 hole

AB. Fixed just a tad. I am pretty high on him and the organization wont stop gushing over him. I think he performs whether he is in the 2 or 6 holes. He seems to be a hitting machine.

Fair enough. I did not want to overstate his value but I think he is a steal out there on the WW of a lot of leagues right now!

Agreed, not many times you can find a potential 5 cat player on waivers/late in the draft.

 

[Buckfast 1]

With the release of Gary Sheffield in Detroit, it looks like Marcus Thames could see a significant increase in at-bats this season.

As you probably know from the last 3 seasons, Thames is basically a low OBP slugger who has hit around 25 HRs in around 320 at bats. He hits home runs from both sides of the plate. If he gets around 500 at bats, he could easily surpass 30 HRs this season, which is more than you can say for a lot of the other guys that might be hanging around on the waiver wire.

If you can handle the hit in BA or OBP and need some added power, Marcus Thames could definitely be a nice source of HRs this season.

I like Thames, but don't know if he'll be a full-time player. His career OPS is 87 points higher vs. lefties and I'd guess the righties he's faced haven't been the best. Josh Anderson is a lefty and the Tigers may want to find him some PT.From a fantasy standpoint, regardless of whether Thames gets the job I like him best as a platoon guy to get in the lineup vs. lefties and leave on the bench otherwise. His 1B/OF eligibility is nice too.

Jim Leyland said today that Thames should get most of the at-bats at the DH spot for the Tigers.Marcus Thames will get chance as Tigers' DH

When I was making the earlier post, I was going to write about Thames' penchant for hitting lefties rather righties, but when I looked up his actual numbers I was actually pretty surprised that there was not more disparity between the two. Thames certainly seems to have more power when he is facing lefties, as his slugging percentage has been significantly higher against lefties two out of the last three years. However, there hasn't been that big of a split in average or OBP, and Thames still hits HRs at a pace of 1 HR per 13.8 ABs against righties over the past three years, which is a pretty absurd rate considering that is his weakness. Here are his numbers over the last few years.

2008

vs. Left 124 ABs, 13 HRs, .234 AVE, .296 OBP, .581 SLG

vs. Right 194 ABs, 12 HRs, .245 AVE, .290 OBP, .474 SLG

2007

vs. Left 87 ABs, 5 HRs, .310 AVE, .341 OBP, .586 SLG

vs. Right 182 ABs, 13 HRs, .209 AVE, .249 OBP, .456 SLG

2006

vs. Left 130 ABs, 8 HRs, .238 AVE, .331 OBP, .515 SLG

vs. Right 218 ABs, 18 HRs, .266 AVE, .335 OBP, .569 SLG

Only 2007 shows significant disparities in Thames AVE and OBP in the lefty v. righty splits. Despite the lower HR rate against righties, he is still hitting HRs against righties at a fantastic rate of 13.8 ABs per HR, putting him just behind Ryan Howard and Adam Dunn and just ahead of Alex Rodriguez, Ryan Ludwick, and Albert Pujols for the #3 rate in MLB. So even against righties, it looks like he is capable of giving you lots of HRs, albeit with a low average. I'm not saying Thames a great player, but with the increase in at-bats that he should get, he could easily hit 40 HRs and that is certainly an asset to a power-starved fantasy player looking for power on the waiver wire.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I guess we should have added Nick Swisher last week.

 

[cosjobs]

At least 3 teams look like they will rotate 4 or more OFs regularly - FLA, COL, and STL.

I do not care for that trend.

 

[Sammy3469]

At least 3 teams look like they will rotate 4 or more OFs regularly - FLA, COL, and STL.I do not care for that trend.

Maybe b/c the OFs suck