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US Navy figures out how to turn seawater into fuel (1 Viewer)

If they could figure out how to turn bull#### into fuel, our politicians might be able to do something worthwhile.

 
DiStefano said:
MaxThreshold said:
I can already see the environmentalists having a coronary over this.
Exactly. We need to leave seawater the way nature intended.
Well certainly environmental impacts need to be considered. The oceans are extremely important to this planet supporting human life. We are already ####### them up pretty hard.

 
DiStefano said:
MaxThreshold said:
I can already see the environmentalists having a coronary over this.
Exactly. We need to leave seawater the way nature intended.
Well certainly environmental impacts need to be considered. The oceans are extremely important to this planet supporting human life. We are already ####### them up pretty hard.
I agree, but the diesel engines (or whatever they're running) a probably not doing the ocean any favors as it is.

 
DiStefano said:
MaxThreshold said:
I can already see the environmentalists having a coronary over this.
Exactly. We need to leave seawater the way nature intended.
Well certainly environmental impacts need to be considered. The oceans are extremely important to this planet supporting human life. We are already ####### them up pretty hard.
I agree, but the diesel engines (or whatever they're running) a probably not doing the ocean any favors as it is.
Absolutely true. It's always a balancing act.

 
stbugs said:
Sand said:
TheIronSheik said:
This is pretty cool. Could be a huge turning point in how our Navy works.

Link
Only for ships with a reactor. And if you have reactor why do you need this? I gotta read a bit more on this.
Where did it say it? They specifically mentioned this was for the ships that don't have reactors and rely on tankers to get fuel.
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.

 
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stbugs said:
Sand said:
TheIronSheik said:
This is pretty cool. Could be a huge turning point in how our Navy works.

Link
Only for ships with a reactor. And if you have reactor why do you need this? I gotta read a bit more on this.
Where did it say it? They specifically mentioned this was for the ships that don't have reactors and rely on tankers to get fuel.
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.
They're going to use the energy created by bikers riding on windy back roads with no shoulders.

 
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.
They're going to use the energy created by bikers riding on windy back roads with no shoulders.
Pretty sure you get triple energy credits for no-shoulder riding. Don't hate.

 
stbugs said:
Sand said:
TheIronSheik said:
This is pretty cool. Could be a huge turning point in how our Navy works.

Link
Only for ships with a reactor. And if you have reactor why do you need this? I gotta read a bit more on this.
Where did it say it? They specifically mentioned this was for the ships that don't have reactors and rely on tankers to get fuel.
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.
I'm aware of how energy works, but your statement about only for ships with a reactor was not correct. I don't know their plan, but it is pretty specific that they are discussing this as an option for ships that require liquid fuel, not ones with a reactor already.

 
stbugs said:
Sand said:
TheIronSheik said:
This is pretty cool. Could be a huge turning point in how our Navy works.

Link
Only for ships with a reactor. And if you have reactor why do you need this? I gotta read a bit more on this.
Where did it say it? They specifically mentioned this was for the ships that don't have reactors and rely on tankers to get fuel.
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.
I'm aware of how energy works, but your statement about only for ships with a reactor was not correct. I don't know their plan, but it is pretty specific that they are discussing this as an option for ships that require liquid fuel, not ones with a reactor already.
I would also be willing to bet they have no intention of sharing this technology, so no reason how to divulge how it works.

 
stbugs said:
Sand said:
TheIronSheik said:
This is pretty cool. Could be a huge turning point in how our Navy works.

Link
Only for ships with a reactor. And if you have reactor why do you need this? I gotta read a bit more on this.
Where did it say it? They specifically mentioned this was for the ships that don't have reactors and rely on tankers to get fuel.
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.
I'm aware of how energy works, but your statement about only for ships with a reactor was not correct. I don't know their plan, but it is pretty specific that they are discussing this as an option for ships that require liquid fuel, not ones with a reactor already.
I would also be willing to bet they have no intention of sharing this technology, so no reason how to divulge how it works.
Same thing happened at the end of Back to the Future.

 
stbugs said:
Sand said:
TheIronSheik said:
This is pretty cool. Could be a huge turning point in how our Navy works.

Link
Only for ships with a reactor. And if you have reactor why do you need this? I gotta read a bit more on this.
Where did it say it? They specifically mentioned this was for the ships that don't have reactors and rely on tankers to get fuel.
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.
I'm aware of how energy works, but your statement about only for ships with a reactor was not correct. I don't know their plan, but it is pretty specific that they are discussing this as an option for ships that require liquid fuel, not ones with a reactor already.
I would also be willing to bet they have no intention of sharing this technology, so no reason how to divulge how it works.
Divulge or not once it's announced or shown to work other people will be able to develop it faster than it was originally.

 
stbugs said:
Sand said:
TheIronSheik said:
This is pretty cool. Could be a huge turning point in how our Navy works.

Link
Only for ships with a reactor. And if you have reactor why do you need this? I gotta read a bit more on this.
Where did it say it? They specifically mentioned this was for the ships that don't have reactors and rely on tankers to get fuel.
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.
I'm aware of how energy works, but your statement about only for ships with a reactor was not correct. I don't know their plan, but it is pretty specific that they are discussing this as an option for ships that require liquid fuel, not ones with a reactor already.
I would also be willing to bet they have no intention of sharing this technology, so no reason how to divulge how it works.
It depends on what the process is. If it's actually an efficient process and could revolutionize the energy market, why wouldn't the US want to benefit the world's environment, crush the influence of the Middle East/Russia and rake in a ton of money?

 
stbugs said:
Sand said:
TheIronSheik said:
This is pretty cool. Could be a huge turning point in how our Navy works.

Link
Only for ships with a reactor. And if you have reactor why do you need this? I gotta read a bit more on this.
Where did it say it? They specifically mentioned this was for the ships that don't have reactors and rely on tankers to get fuel.
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.
I'm aware of how energy works, but your statement about only for ships with a reactor was not correct. I don't know their plan, but it is pretty specific that they are discussing this as an option for ships that require liquid fuel, not ones with a reactor already.
I would also be willing to bet they have no intention of sharing this technology, so no reason how to divulge how it works.
It depends on what the process is. If it's actually an efficient process and could revolutionize the energy market, why wouldn't the US want to benefit the world's environment, crush the influence of the Middle East/Russia and rake in a ton of money?
The US is in the oil business, too.

 
stbugs said:
Sand said:
TheIronSheik said:
This is pretty cool. Could be a huge turning point in how our Navy works.

Link
Only for ships with a reactor. And if you have reactor why do you need this? I gotta read a bit more on this.
Where did it say it? They specifically mentioned this was for the ships that don't have reactors and rely on tankers to get fuel.
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.
I'm aware of how energy works, but your statement about only for ships with a reactor was not correct. I don't know their plan, but it is pretty specific that they are discussing this as an option for ships that require liquid fuel, not ones with a reactor already.
I would also be willing to bet they have no intention of sharing this technology, so no reason how to divulge how it works.
It depends on what the process is. If it's actually an efficient process and could revolutionize the energy market, why wouldn't the US want to benefit the world's environment, crush the influence of the Middle East/Russia and rake in a ton of money?
The US is in the oil business, too.
Sure, but there's a big difference between being in a business versus owing the whole market.

 
stbugs said:
Sand said:
TheIronSheik said:
This is pretty cool. Could be a huge turning point in how our Navy works.

Link
Only for ships with a reactor. And if you have reactor why do you need this? I gotta read a bit more on this.
Where did it say it? They specifically mentioned this was for the ships that don't have reactors and rely on tankers to get fuel.
Where is the energy for all this extraction and filtering coming from? This is not a net positive energy situation. It will take lots of energy to make the hydrogen and extract the CO2. They don't say this - in fact, the article is pretty particular in not saying this.
I'm aware of how energy works, but your statement about only for ships with a reactor was not correct. I don't know their plan, but it is pretty specific that they are discussing this as an option for ships that require liquid fuel, not ones with a reactor already.
I would also be willing to bet they have no intention of sharing this technology, so no reason how to divulge how it works.
It depends on what the process is. If it's actually an efficient process and could revolutionize the energy market, why wouldn't the US want to benefit the world's environment, crush the influence of the Middle East/Russia and rake in a ton of money?
The US is in the oil business, too.
Sure, but there's a big difference between being in a business versus owing the whole market.
:confused:

We can sell oil, but I'm pretty sure no one will buy our seawater.

 
A viable substitute for oil will benefit the country by an amount that will dwarf the downside of harming our oil businesses.

 
A viable substitute for oil will benefit the country by an amount that will dwarf the downside of harming our oil businesses.
How? This is only for ships. Not for all combustible engines.
Maybe I missed something. If it will only ever be used for ships, then it seems there isn't very much potential harm for the oil business. But if it could make the leap to other uses, then we're looking at a potential fuel bonanza with plentiful supply.

 
A viable substitute for oil will benefit the country by an amount that will dwarf the downside of harming our oil businesses.
How? This is only for ships. Not for all combustible engines.
Maybe I missed something. If it will only ever be used for ships, then it seems there isn't very much potential harm for the oil business. But if it could make the leap to other uses, then we're looking at a potential fuel bonanza with plentiful supply.
I didn't bring up the oil business. The article said that by using seawater as their fuel, they could travel much further and not need refueling tankers. But they didn't mention that they could use water as fuel for every military vehicle. I would think if that were they case, then this would be the record holder for Biggest Burying of the Lede By Any Article Ever.

 

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