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Used 12-team Draft Plan with DD Software (1 Viewer)

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Iggles

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Used the 12-team draft plan and the Draft Dominator software (with FBG projections) for my league's draft yesterday. Standard performance league: 4/passing TD, 6 other TDs, 1/20 yds passing 1/10 yd rushing or receiving and misc points for PK and DEF/ST. Start 1QB, 2RB/WR, 1TE, 1 DEF/ST, 1 PK. No roster limits.

The league had 12 RBs taken in first round, Manning taken 2.01 and then the WRs started coming off. I drafted from the 5th spot. I will say that while the league started with shark-like picks by the 3rd round 6-7 owners were already reaching with some strange picks. Also we are all Eagles homers so you pay a premium for any Eagle in this draft.

1.05 Steve Jackson

2.08 Reuben Droughns (picked over Willie Parker)

3.05 Jamal Lewis (before injury but he looked good against the Birds on Thursday)

4.08 Darell Jackson (WR14 and ADP 3.12)

5.05 Santana Moss (WR15 and ADp 4.01) -- Why did he drop so far?

6.08 Thomas Jones (RB27 ADP 6.01) -- I'm betting he wins the starting RB job

7.05 Laurence Maroney (currently RB33 but stock is rising and I saw him run -- not a bad reach in the 7th)

8.08 Daunte Culpepper ( QB14 and ADP of 6.06) -- I was the second to last team to pick QB

9.05 Michael Clayton (WR30, ADP 7.12)

10.08 Chris Cooley (TE8, ADP 7.07) - last team to draft a TE

11.05 Brett Favre (QB10, ADP 10.05) -- could have taken Kitna here

12.08 Donte Stallworth (WR36, ADP 8.07) WR value-- why did he drop?

13.05 Keyshawn Johnson (WR39, ADP 9.12) WR value

14.08 Tampa Bay (DEF5, ADP 12.06) approx. 8th DEF taken

15.05 Jay Feely approx. 10th PK

16.08 Ben Troupe backup TE

17.05 Jeff Wilkins getting late

18.08 Charlie Frye not much left...should have taken Morency who went undrafted

So I drafted for value and have a solid team. I'm hoping my depth at RB will generate some trade activity, since some teams have no depth at RB at all.

I'm not looking for a rate my team but wanted to show you some real results of applying the principles of David's article and using the DD software (which rocks!!!). BTW - I hate drafting this early.

Final roster

QB Culpepper, Favre, Frye

RB SJax, Droughns, Jamal Lewis, Thomas Jones, Maroney

WR DJax, S Moss, Michael Clayton, Stallworth, Keyshawn

TE Cooley, Troupe

PK Feely, Wilkins

DEF/ST Tampa Bay

 
Iggles said:
The league had 12 RBs taken in first round, Manning taken 2.01 and then the WRs started coming off. I drafted from the 5th spot. I will say that while the league started with shark-like picks by the 3rd round 6-7 owners were already reaching with some strange picks. Also we are all Eagles homers so you pay a premium for any Eagle in this draft.1.05 Steve Jackson2.08 Reuben Droughns (picked over Willie Parker)3.05 Jamal Lewis (before injury but he looked good against the Birds on Thursday)4.08 Darell Jackson (WR14 and ADP 3.12)5.05 Santana Moss (WR15 and ADp 4.01) -- Why did he drop so far?6.08 Thomas Jones (RB27 ADP 6.01) -- I'm betting he wins the starting RB job7.05 Laurence Maroney (currently RB33 but stock is rising and I saw him run -- not a bad reach in the 7th)8.08 Daunte Culpepper ( QB14 and ADP of 6.06) -- I was the second to last team to pick QB9.05 Michael Clayton (WR30, ADP 7.12)10.08 Chris Cooley (TE8, ADP 7.07) - last team to draft a TE11.05 Brett Favre (QB10, ADP 10.05) -- could have taken Kitna here12.08 Donte Stallworth (WR36, ADP 8.07) WR value-- why did he drop?13.05 Keyshawn Johnson (WR39, ADP 9.12) WR value14.08 Tampa Bay (DEF5, ADP 12.06) approx. 8th DEF taken15.05 Jay Feely approx. 10th PK16.08 Ben Troupe backup TE17.05 Jeff Wilkins getting late 18.08 Charlie Frye not much left...should have taken Morency who went undrafted
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Going to be a long year rooting against the Eagles every week. :D
 
I used the DD last night in my local 12 teamer and I must say that this tool is the bomb :thumbup: :thumbup:

1.01-LT(ADP-1.03)

2.12-Larry Fitzgerald(2.07)

3.01-Marvin Harrison(2.09)

4.12-Deshaun Foster(4.07)

5.01-Todd Heap(6.02)

6.12-Frank Gore(6.11)

7.01-Jake Delhomme(6.08)

8.12-Jake Plummer(8.09)

9.01-Marion Barber(8.11)

10.12-Antonio Bryant(11.04)

11.01-Deangelo Williams(7.02)

12.12-Pittsburgh(9.06)

13.01-Byron Leftwich(11.02)

14.12-Michael Turner(15.08)

15.01-Troy Williamson(16.02)

16.12-Josh Brown(15.02)

 
Finatic said:
I used the DD last night in my local 12 teamer and I must say that this tool is the bomb :thumbup: :thumbup: 1.01-LT(ADP-1.03)2.12-Larry Fitzgerald(2.07)3.01-Marvin Harrison(2.09)4.12-Deshaun Foster(4.07)5.01-Todd Heap(6.02)6.12-Frank Gore(6.11)7.01-Jake Delhomme(6.08)8.12-Jake Plummer(8.09)9.01-Marion Barber(8.11)10.12-Antonio Bryant(11.04)11.01-Deangelo Williams(7.02)12.12-Pittsburgh(9.06)13.01-Byron Leftwich(11.02)14.12-Michael Turner(15.08)15.01-Troy Williamson(16.02)16.12-Josh Brown(15.02)
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That's a nice looking draft. You absolutely stole DeAngelo. Nice value with vitrually every pick, with the possible exception of Heap, but the guy is still a stud.
 
Iggles,

Did you consider going stud WR in the second round? You still could have gotten either Droughns or Jamal Lewis in the third, so you still would have had a decent RB2 ... plus Thomas Jones coming later. I guess my worry is that Droughns and Lewis may not score many TDs this year, so you may have been better off grabbing a proven scorer at WR. I know that DD screams "grab RB" in the second and third ...

 
Both of those drafts using the draft dominator looked like they went pretty well for both of you. My question is whether you also followed the perfect draft 12 team article by Dodds as well. I see Heap in the 6th which would suggest no. I am a first time subscriber this year and am just wondering how everyone weighs the different info coming out of this site.

I plan on using the DD but I also do not want to rely on it that much. Ive been playing for close to 15 years and have done pretty well on my own, but I cant wait to see how the DD helps/hurts me

 
By the way, where did R Bush go in both those drafts. Curious as I have pick 2.03 and might target him there

 
Finatic,

Your draft is proof of how having an early slot is an advantage this year. I really like your team: LT plus two stud WRs, plus an almost stud TE. In fact, I think the trophy is yours.

In a 14-team league, I have the seventh pick. I'll probably grab Rudi to avoid a bust, then blow off RB2 until the 4th round. I'm tearing my hair out on whether I should grab Gates in the second and a WR in the third, or go with WRs in the second and third and target Heap in the 5th.

 
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I used DD this morning for my 14-team Yahoo draft (6 pts for all TDs and no PPR, otherwise pretty standard scoring). I had the 13th pick in a 14-team league -- not where I would have liked to draft, but better than 7-9, I think. This is what I got:

1.13: Cadillac Williams (ADP = 1.11)

2.02: Chad Johnson (2.03)

3.13: Reggie Wayne (3.04)

4.02: Jamal Lewis (3.02)

5.13: Fred Taylor (5.03)

6.02: Jake Delhomme (5.12)

7.13: Frank Gore (6.01)

8.02: Drew Bennett (7.13)

9.13: Washington (11.11)

10.02: LJ Smith (8.06)

11.13: Jon Kitna (11.07)

12.02: Ernest Wilford (10.09)

13.13: Kellen Winslow (8.07)

14.02: Vernand Morency (16.14)

15.13: Olindo Mare (18.01)

I think I did OK with what was available at the time. I may have taken Fragile Fred too soon, but I'm hoping he has one more solid (and relatively uninjured year), and Morency was a flier. Otherwise, I think I got good value.

Reggie Bush went with the 10th pick in the 3rd round.

I screwed up with the DD software this year -- I had put in all of the teams several weeks ago to run mock drafts, but Yahoo doesn't give you the draft order until about 30 minutes before the draft. I forgot to change the draft order! So I didn't have full use of DD -- but had run enough mock drafts (and read the articles on "perfect" drafts on the FBG site, so I came pretty close to what DD would have suggested (I actually went back and re-ran the draft on DD to see, and most of my picks were what DD would have suggested -- or at least close...I did use some discretion!).

 
AcerFC said:
Both of those drafts using the draft dominator looked like they went pretty well for both of you. My question is whether you also followed the perfect draft 12 team article by Dodds as well. I see Heap in the 6th which would suggest no. I am a first time subscriber this year and am just wondering how everyone weighs the different info coming out of this site.
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I think the Perfect Draft article is very much one man's opinion; I don't think it has much real data behind it.
 
At least 5 WRs had gone by the time I got my second pick. The rest were RBs and Manning. I didn't especially care for TO since I'm a Birds fan so I passed on him. I thought about going WR but felt in the long run in this league (i've been playing 12 years) I would definitely have trade bait if I could scoop up the quality RBs that people would want later in the draft. Judgement call on my part for sure.

Bush went in the second round before 2.08.

As far as Dodd's article, I gave it a try because I agreed with some of his major points:

People will over pay for a top filte QB and after that Q5-Q15 all were pretty equal.

You can wait on TE's, QB's, PK's and DEF/ST once the top guys were picked.

I have some regrets on passing one stud WR....but overall I think I can get a productive WR in a trade once the season starts.

I know the Maroney pick really surprised a bunch of owners as it was the start of a run on RBs in the 7th.

 
AcerFC said:
Both of those drafts using the draft dominator looked like they went pretty well for both of you. My question is whether you also followed the perfect draft 12 team article by Dodds as well. I see Heap in the 6th which would suggest no. I am a first time subscriber this year and am just wondering how everyone weighs the different info coming out of this site.I plan on using the DD but I also do not want to rely on it that much. Ive been playing for close to 15 years and have done pretty well on my own, but I cant wait to see how the DD helps/hurts me
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My local has a 60/40 Shark/Guppy split.I followed the Shark/Guppy article based on my leaguemate's tendencies coupled with the DD.I also tweaked the projections a tad.
 
Used DD myself just now from the 1 spot in 12 team ppr:

1.01 LT

2.12 Holt

3.01 Boldin

4.12 Dunn

5.01 Mason

6.12 Thomas Jones

7.01 D Rhodes

8.12 M Muhammed

9.01 L Maroney

10.12 S McNair

11.01 J Kitna

12.12 J Brown

13.01 Mike Bell

14.12 Miami

15.01 T Taylor

Couldn't be happier aside frome Driver being taken at 4.11.

QB: McNair, Kitna

RB: LT, Dunn, T Jones, D Rhodes, L Maroney, M Bell

WR: Holt, Bolding, Mason, Muhammed, T Taylor

K: Josh Brown

Def: Miami

 
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I cant believe some of the Running back depth that is still around in some of these leagues. Picks like T Jones in the 6th, Rhodes in the 7th, marooney in the 9th, and Gore in the 7th even before Barlow was traded.

I will be lucky if those players backups are there for me in the 6th round. Out of the top 72 picks, I would estimate that there will be 45-50 Rbs taken with some teams taking 5-6 Rbs in the first 5-6 Rds.

Unbelievable value in some of these leagues

BTW, the colts look awseome right now

 
Are you all who used DD going to be on here in November complaining about FBG's and their projections and how you did not make the playoffs or win your league? Just curious because if you all, and it sounds like you all did, simply use this tool to draft your team then there is no individuality in drafting anymore. Have some originality at least.

 
Psychology Kev said:
Are you all who used DD going to be on here in November complaining about FBG's and their projections and how you did not make the playoffs or win your league? Just curious because if you all, and it sounds like you all did, simply use this tool to draft your team then there is no individuality in drafting anymore. Have some originality at least.
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You hit it on the head when you describe it as a tool. The best part about it for me is the draft summary keeping tallies on who the people drafting around me had taken, broken down by position. I actually never once took the top player DD suggested in any single round.For me it is an incredible way to see the big picture, recognize patterns, organize a draft, and strategically find value in a draft.Psych Kev - who pissed in your cheerios?
 
matuski said:
Psychology Kev said:
Are you all who used DD going to be on here in November complaining about FBG's and their projections and how you did not make the playoffs or win your league? Just curious because if you all, and it sounds like you all did, simply use this tool to draft your team then there is no individuality in drafting anymore. Have some originality at least.
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You hit it on the head when you describe it as a tool. The best part about it for me is the draft summary keeping tallies on who the people drafting around me had taken, broken down by position. I actually never once took the top player DD suggested in any single round.For me it is an incredible way to see the big picture, recognize patterns, organize a draft, and strategically find value in a draft.Psych Kev - who pissed in your cheerios?
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Nobody really but I will guarantee that somebody, not saying you, but somebody who will have bandwagon jumpers as well later on this year come on here and complain about projections, results, the DD, VBD and the such for being incorrect and not taking any personal responsibility for their drafts. It is those people who are pissing in my Cheerios and now the smell rank.
 
used it today for the first time in a real draft. worked fantastic. I used it as a guide and deviated from the recomendations about 4 times. It was so much easier than crossing off names on multiple sheets. I was completely at ease during the draft. The most helpful part was the tally of the total players taken in each position. it allowed me to take a qb 2 rounds later than my gut feeling. Also for the first time in many years I have no bye week conflicts.

This guy gives it a big thumbs up, and worth every penny i paid for the subscription

:thumbup:

 
I have used DD for 3 drafts all yahoo standard scoring.

First time, the cursor is pretty big on my screen and I made a few mistakes.

QB J. Delhomme

WR C. Johnson

WR Ro. Williams

WR Ma. Jones

RB S. Jackson

RB K. Jones

TE T. Gonzalez

BN C. Taylor

BN F. Gore

BN E. Kennison

BN Mi. Vick

BN L. Maroney

BN L. White

K S. Graham

DEF Cincinnati

2nd Draft was very good IMHO

QB J. Delhomme

WR Ro. Williams

WR D. Driver

WR D. Mason

RB T. Barber

RB S. Jackson

TE A. Gates

BN K. Jones

BN D. Bledsoe

BN Ma. Jones

BN L. Coles

BN D. Foster

BN F. Gore

K M. Stover

Def Philadelphia

Third draft was also good, I will probably trade some of RB depth away.

QB J. Delhomme

WR C. Johnson

WR C. Chambers

WR Ro. Williams

RB S. Jackson

RB K. Jones

TE T. Heap

BN J. Lewis

BN C. Taylor

BN D. Foster

BN L. Coles

BN K. Winslow

BN P. Rivers

K M. Stover

DEF Miami

Any thoughts or help would be appreciated, I am still learning

 
Read the article but did not follow it. As in any draft flexibility is key in my league. I ran my draft through the Dominator program after the draft and was interested to find that my picks and what the dominator was suggesting were in line with each other for 5 out my first 6 picks and were in agreement 9 out of 14.

Here is what I picked up with the 10 spot in a 12 team draft where 14 running back went in the first 15 picks.

1.10 Rudi Johnson

2.03 Willie Parker

3.10 Chris Chambers

4.03 Donald Driver

5.10 Tony Gonzales

6.03 Rod Smith

7.10 Fred Taylor

8.03 Trent Green

9.10 Reggie Brown

10.03 Ben Roethlisberger

11.10 Drew Bennett

12.03 Chris Perry

13.10 Jay Feely

14.03 Giants D

 
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