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Kudos to the USA Today for this editorial

Hang up on NSA phone tracking: Our view

The Editorial Board11:08 p.m. EST December 15, 2015

Panic over San Bernardino is no reason to resurrect government snooping.
Within days of the murder of 14 people in San Bernardino, Calif., by Islamic State sympathizers, a number of Republican senators are moving to resurrect a truly bad idea. Once again, they want to allow the National Security Agency to sweep up the phone records of virtually all Americans.

The once-secret "metadata" program, which a federal appeals court found amounted to “sweeping surveillance” of Americans’ data in “staggering” volumes, ended in November, four days before the San Bernardino massacre. Now, some of the program’s supporters are playing on the fears created by the California attack to try to bring the intrusive program back to life.
What makes them think the program ended in November? Call me cynical, but they've got to be still doing pretty much the same stuff.
The only real change was to the phone record keeping program.The NSA will no longer be keeping these and will be required to get a court order to get them from the phone companies who are now storing them.Pretty much everything else stays intact.

 
Kudos to the USA Today for this editorial

Hang up on NSA phone tracking: Our view

The Editorial Board11:08 p.m. EST December 15, 2015

Panic over San Bernardino is no reason to resurrect government snooping.

Within days of the murder of 14 people in San Bernardino, Calif., by Islamic State sympathizers, a number of Republican senators are moving to resurrect a truly bad idea. Once again, they want to allow the National Security Agency to sweep up the phone records of virtually all Americans.

The once-secret "metadata" program, which a federal appeals court found amounted to “sweeping surveillance” of Americans’ data in “staggering” volumes, ended in November, four days before the San Bernardino massacre. Now, some of the program’s supporters are playing on the fears created by the California attack to try to bring the intrusive program back to life.

In fact, the program had been operating for nine years before Syed Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, murdered 14 people at a holiday party. It was operating when they were married, when she came to the U.S. and when, according to news reports, Farook had contacts with six people whom federal authorities had scrutinized for possible terrorism ties.

The metadata program — first revealed in 2006 by USA TODAY and confirmed in 2013 by fugitive NSA leaker Edward Snowden — apparently picked up none of it. That's neither a black mark on the program nor a reason to think its absence for a few days contributed to the attack.

Even so, a measure to put the old program back in operation at least until early 2017 is being pushed by Republican senators, including Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Tom Cotton of Arkansas, John McCain of Arizona and Marco Rubio of Florida, who’s seeking the Republican presidential nomination.

At Tuesday night’s GOP debate, Rubio argued that the metadata program was “a valuable tool we no longer have at our disposal” and warned that a failure to prevent a future attack “better not be” because the NSA couldn’t quickly access this kind of data. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie agreed it ought to be restored. Both ignore reality.

Reviving the program would take the country back to the panicked weeks after 9/11, when Congress gave the intelligence community all sorts of secret surveillance tools involving phone data, cellphones and emails. When the program was publicly confirmed in 2013, it created a furor. A federal judge said it was likely unconstitutional. President Obama vowed to end it. In June, Congress approved a compromise alternative by a healthy bipartisan majority.

The alternative still allows the NSA to check metadata — the number you called, when you called and how long you talked — with two key changes. It must get a court order first and get the data from telephone companies. The big difference: The NSA cannot vacuum up masses of data and keep them in-house.

History demonstrates that once such government collections start, they are hard to contain and are prone to abuse. The mere existence of such a database can reveal a lot, including whether you call a psychiatrist, an abortion clinic, a lover, a criminal defense lawyer, a political organization or a house of worship. While there have been no reports of abuse, it's not hard to imagine a future president, with the paranoid tendencies of a Richard Nixon, misusing such tools against political enemies and journalists.

Foes of the new arrangement insist that the government will have access to less data. But the director of national intelligence said the volume of records is "greater," and FBI Director James Comey told Congress he also expects more to be available. Previously, the government did not have access to records from all companies, and some mobile phone records had been out or reach. Now, all companies must comply with orders seeking records.

Did the previous, much debated program keep America safe? The NSA's reply was to exaggerate its benefits. Officials first claimed it helped disrupt more than 50 "potential terrorist events" since 9/11. Then the claim was it had "made a contribution" in 12 cases.

Exaggeration raises questions not only about this program but also about the intelligence community's credibility. Too many times in recent years, intelligence officials have either failed to assess a crucial situation accurately — foremost whether Iraq had weapons of mass destruction before the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 — or been caught misleading the public.

Before charging off to recreate an intrusive program that two years of questioning, study and compromise put to rest, politicians might want to beef up the visa background checks that missed Malik's postings on social media supporting violent jihad. They might also give the new metadata system a chance. Winning the war against terrorism requires not only preventing attacks but also protecting America's values.

USA TODAY's editorial opinions are decided by its Editorial Board, separate from the news staff. Most editorials are coupled with an opposing view — a unique USA TODAY feature.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/12/15/phone-metadata-nsa-san-bernardino-terrorists-attacks-isil-editorials-debates/76337140/
Why is everyone so focused on one very narrow aspect of what has been revealed? This "metadata" program much less important/intrusive than the other stuff going on....

This is a red herring.

 
Kudos to the USA Today for this editorial

Hang up on NSA phone tracking: Our view

The Editorial Board11:08 p.m. EST December 15, 2015

Panic over San Bernardino is no reason to resurrect government snooping.

Within days of the murder of 14 people in San Bernardino, Calif., by Islamic State sympathizers, a number of Republican senators are moving to resurrect a truly bad idea. Once again, they want to allow the National Security Agency to sweep up the phone records of virtually all Americans.

The once-secret "metadata" program, which a federal appeals court found amounted to “sweeping surveillance” of Americans’ data in “staggering” volumes, ended in November, four days before the San Bernardino massacre. Now, some of the program’s supporters are playing on the fears created by the California attack to try to bring the intrusive program back to life.

In fact, the program had been operating for nine years before Syed Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, murdered 14 people at a holiday party. It was operating when they were married, when she came to the U.S. and when, according to news reports, Farook had contacts with six people whom federal authorities had scrutinized for possible terrorism ties.

The metadata program — first revealed in 2006 by USA TODAY and confirmed in 2013 by fugitive NSA leaker Edward Snowden — apparently picked up none of it. That's neither a black mark on the program nor a reason to think its absence for a few days contributed to the attack.

Even so, a measure to put the old program back in operation at least until early 2017 is being pushed by Republican senators, including Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Tom Cotton of Arkansas, John McCain of Arizona and Marco Rubio of Florida, who’s seeking the Republican presidential nomination.

At Tuesday night’s GOP debate, Rubio argued that the metadata program was “a valuable tool we no longer have at our disposal” and warned that a failure to prevent a future attack “better not be” because the NSA couldn’t quickly access this kind of data. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie agreed it ought to be restored. Both ignore reality.

Reviving the program would take the country back to the panicked weeks after 9/11, when Congress gave the intelligence community all sorts of secret surveillance tools involving phone data, cellphones and emails. When the program was publicly confirmed in 2013, it created a furor. A federal judge said it was likely unconstitutional. President Obama vowed to end it. In June, Congress approved a compromise alternative by a healthy bipartisan majority.

The alternative still allows the NSA to check metadata — the number you called, when you called and how long you talked — with two key changes. It must get a court order first and get the data from telephone companies. The big difference: The NSA cannot vacuum up masses of data and keep them in-house.

History demonstrates that once such government collections start, they are hard to contain and are prone to abuse. The mere existence of such a database can reveal a lot, including whether you call a psychiatrist, an abortion clinic, a lover, a criminal defense lawyer, a political organization or a house of worship. While there have been no reports of abuse, it's not hard to imagine a future president, with the paranoid tendencies of a Richard Nixon, misusing such tools against political enemies and journalists.

Foes of the new arrangement insist that the government will have access to less data. But the director of national intelligence said the volume of records is "greater," and FBI Director James Comey told Congress he also expects more to be available. Previously, the government did not have access to records from all companies, and some mobile phone records had been out or reach. Now, all companies must comply with orders seeking records.

Did the previous, much debated program keep America safe? The NSA's reply was to exaggerate its benefits. Officials first claimed it helped disrupt more than 50 "potential terrorist events" since 9/11. Then the claim was it had "made a contribution" in 12 cases.

Exaggeration raises questions not only about this program but also about the intelligence community's credibility. Too many times in recent years, intelligence officials have either failed to assess a crucial situation accurately — foremost whether Iraq had weapons of mass destruction before the U.S.-led invasion in 2003 — or been caught misleading the public.

Before charging off to recreate an intrusive program that two years of questioning, study and compromise put to rest, politicians might want to beef up the visa background checks that missed Malik's postings on social media supporting violent jihad. They might also give the new metadata system a chance. Winning the war against terrorism requires not only preventing attacks but also protecting America's values.

USA TODAY's editorial opinions are decided by its Editorial Board, separate from the news staff. Most editorials are coupled with an opposing view — a unique USA TODAY feature.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/12/15/phone-metadata-nsa-san-bernardino-terrorists-attacks-isil-editorials-debates/76337140/
Why is everyone so focused on one very narrow aspect of what has been revealed? This "metadata" program much less important/intrusive than the other stuff going on....

This is a red herring.
I guess shining any light on the situation is a good thing but agree with your overall point.Most people simply don't care.

 
NSA Takes Pro-Encryption Stance: Can It Spy On Your Encrypted Data?

By Anu Passary, Tech Times | January 23, 7:40 AM

The National Security Agency (NSA) is easing its stance on encrypted data. The agency's director Mike Rogers shared his thoughts on the ongoing debate surrounding encryption and revealed that the NSA is now in favor of encrypted data.

On Thursday, Rogers spoke at length to the Atlantic Council on the encryption debate.

"Encryption is foundational to the future. So spending time arguing about 'hey, encryption is bad and we ought to do away with it' ... that's a waste of time to me," said Rogers.

The director's admission that the NSA is more than okay with encryption will come as a surprise to most. Should it ring alarm bells? Probably.

Why is the NSA suddenly not worried about gaining backdoors to user data? Is it because it has devised other means to decode and spy on encrypted data?

There are all pertinent questions considering how NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden exposed the agency's penchant for espionage. In addition to gathering intelligence through wire taps and collecting phone metadata, NSA also deployed a tool called XKeyscore (which was capable of gathering collected online information to create the profile of a citizen accurately) - actions which are in contradiction to its current pro-encryption stance.

The reason why NSA is not worrying about encryption is because they can still conduct a surveillance program.

Security bloggers are of the opinion that the NSA has the know-how to crack cryptography protocols that are commonly used. This is backed by the fact that - as revealed by the leaked Snowden documents in 2013 - that the NSA is investing heavily towards activities oriented towards breaking encryption.

"The 2013 "black budget" request, leaked as part of the Snowden cache, states that NSA has prioritized "investing in groundbreaking cryptanalytic capabilities to defeat adversarial cryptography and exploit internet traffic," notes the Freedom to Tinker blog at Princeton University's Center for Information Policy Freedom.

The NSA reportedly has a budget of $10 billion each year, with $1 billion just for this purpose.

Moreover, in 2015 a paper from researchers at University of Pennsylvania, Microsoft, Michigan University and John Hopkins University suggests that cracking encryption is quite plausible - even the strongest one.

The paper not only identifies the weaknesses which exist in encrypted data, but also touches on the manner in which encryption can be cracked. The method includes "active attacks on export ciphers in TLS" which translates to attacking one side of end-to-end encrypted data.

It remains a mystery why NSA has changed its stance on security and privacy. We are still uncertain whether or not the reason for this is the agency's discovery of alternate methods to crack encrypted data.

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/126909/20160123/nsa-takes-pro-encryption-stance-can-it-spy-on-your-encrypted-data.htm
 
Be interesting to see how candidates address this. I know what Bernie and Rand would say...the rest, not so much.
I doubt you even hear much about this in debates.Rand didn't gain any traction and the reason Bernie is surging isn't because of this issue but I get your point,would love to see an actual debate about this whole thing instead of trust us because we know what we're doing and if you don't go along you won't keep us safe.

 
Encryption was brought up in the last Republican debate to Kasich,here was his reply.

KELLY: Governor Kasich, You appear to back in another debate, a so-called back door to encrypted cell phone technology, which protects most smartphones that we all have from hacking. And it includes our phones and it also protects the cell phones of the terrorists.
Now the tech companies and a group of MIT scientists, smart guys, right, warn that if they create a way for the FBI to have a back door into our encrypted communications, then the bad guys will exploit it too. And they say that this is going to cause more security problems than it would solve for everyday Americans. Are they wrong?
KASICH: Well, look the Joint Terrorism Task Force needs resources and tools. And those are made up of the FBI, state and local law enforcement. And Megyn, it's best not to talk anymore about back doors and encryption, it will get solved, but it needs to be solved in the situation of the White House with the technology folks.
KELLY: But this is public testimony.
KASICH: But I just have to tell you that it's best with some of these things not be said. Now I want to go back something.
Somehow I'm not surprised at his answer(or lack of one).

 
http://gizmodo.com/congress-new-encryption-bill-is-a-total-nightmare-1769881238

Oh, hooray.  Dianne Feinstein is proposing a new bill that will require every technology company to give the government a back door into encrypted and/or deleted data.  Why exactly do we let morons who don't understand the first thing about technology make laws governing it?
That will run all the way to the Supreme Court....absurd.  Hopefully, they will ask the candidates about this during Presidential debates, but I'm not holding my breath.

 
As good a place as any to drop this one in.

Did NSA Try To Destroy Hillary Clinton?

In a recent radio interview, William Binney, a former NSA senior mathematician, stated that disgruntled American spies could be behind the hack of the DNC, adding that NSA is in possession of all of Hillary Clinton’s emails, including the more than 30,000 deleted by the Democratic presidential nominee and her staff in the EmailGate scandal.

 
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Great, now Trump has the oversight of the NSA. What could go possibly wrong?

 
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As good a place as any to post these, and backs up some of the assertions I've made previously in this thread.

Giving government (whether Obama, Trump, or the next guy/gal) unfettered access to this stuff is a nightmare, and not to be taken lightly.

 
Looks like we now have an inkling of what they are hiding

http://circa.com/politics/declassified-memos-show-fbi-illegally-shared-spy-data-on-americans-with-private-parties

massive criminal behavior in sharing private data 
Fyi if anyone wants to tee this up, please go right ahead.

Personally I am not sure what is new here.

See the OP in this thread from 2012 ("FWIW The NSA IS READING/SAVING ur emails/calls/texts etc").

Or this thread from 2005 (Reports: Bush Authorized NSA to Spy in U.S.).

As I understand it the Fisa court first ruled on this last summer.

And I am not a fan of Circa News, but I doubt what they're reporting is really controversial given again what we at FBGs have known since 2005.

 
This is why I run VPN on all devices (laptop, iPhone, kodi) and refuse to discuss anything even remotely significant via text with non-iMessage users. I realize this doesn't protect me 100%.. but it's a nice first layer of defense. 
 

 
Really good article on how the NSA uses voice recognition.

Link

These and other classified documents provided by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden reveal that the NSA has developed technology not just to record and transcribe private conversations but to automatically identify the speakers.
And another bit of news

NSA deleted surveillance data it pledged to preserve-Link

 

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