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Vibram Fivefingers (1 Viewer)

CletiusMaximus said:
Any recommendations where to buy online? I got sized yesterday at an REI, but they didn't have the style I wanted in stock.
What model? Amazon has some, but some of their affiliates have some outrageous prices.REI.com?? They ship for free for members and if you're not a member you should look into it ($20 for lifetime membership). They are a co-op, meaning you can bring anything back, for any reason, after any amount of time for a full refund (no receipt needed). If a tent tears after 10 years, bring it back....don't like your Vibram's after 8 months, bring them back (not that that would happen :pickle: ) You also get a 5% rebate on just about everything you buy at the end of their fiscal year.
 
Wore my KSO's for a grass 2s volleyball tournament a few weekends ago and I will never play on dry grass again without them (wet would be too slick for the rubber soles). I've always been a barefoot player and my feet/quads paid the price late in the day and for days after...but for some reason I was just fine come the finals, and the day after was out playing tennis with my KSOs.

 
KayakShed is one of the best online retailers for VFFs, as is TravelCountry and City Sports.

I've been wearing them for about 11 months now...initially just for CrossFitting, then some running. Now I wear them everywhere all of the time. Just ordered my 6th pair yesterday, which brings my collection to:

KSO black - crossfitting, some running, beach

KSO blue camo - same as above

Classics black - all pavement running, quick throw on for yard work, walking dogs, etc.

Smartwool Classics (these are my "Office" pair)

KSO Treks black (my other office shoe)

KSO Trek Sports -- trail running

I can't imagine ever wearing "traditional" shoes again, unless forced to by policy or necessity. Luckily my company doesn't have a policy that prohibits me from wearing them to the office.

 
Actually considering the flow for trout fishing next year when I wet wade.

Seems better than going in the chunky boots. Just hope they don't slip on the wet mossy rocks. Thats the best part of the chunky boots is the felt bottom that does not slip.

 
So how are they with lateral movement? I'm thinking tennis or racquetball.
They have plenty of grip and I could easily see playing either sport in them. Although I wouldn't do that right out of the gate after you buy them. You need to acclimate your feet and strengthen the muscles that don't get used with regular shoes. Trying to play tennis or racquetball without ever having worn these sounds like a recipe for a sprained ankle.
 
How are they for walking around the city where there might be some broken glass on the ground?

 
How are they for walking around the city where there might be some broken glass on the ground?
The rubber is actually pretty tough and would take that well I would think. What I hate the most is stepping on a rock right under your arch. You just don't have the cushioning for that.
 
Actually considering the flow for trout fishing next year when I wet wade.Seems better than going in the chunky boots. Just hope they don't slip on the wet mossy rocks. Thats the best part of the chunky boots is the felt bottom that does not slip.
Second that. Going to hit the flats for some bonefish in St. Croix and think this is just the ticket.
 
Count me among the converted, which is pretty shocking to me given how skeptical I initially was.

Long story short, I pulled my hamstring(s) years ago playing softball. Went to PT to rehab said pulled hammies, and the therapist told me I had "abysmal" range of motion, and that I was going to pull my hamstrings and very soon groin repeatedly until I developed some range of motion. He suggested Pilates and/or Yoga. I started doing Pilates about 2-3 years ago, and it made a world of difference for my overall flexibility, core strength, back strength, etc. However we never could lengthen my hamstrings. One of the instructors made it her mission to figure out why I have such short hamstrings. We broke every movement I make down over the course of a couple of months, including walking. We realized I supinate pretty substantially, and we started focusing on distributing the weight evenly on my feet when I walk. She also recommended that I stopped wearing running shoes as my default shoes and start walking around barefoot more often. Feet get cold, so I bought a pair of Vibrams. Been wearing them about a week, and I already notice a substantial difference in my proprioception and gait.

 
Count me among the converted, which is pretty shocking to me given how skeptical I initially was. Long story short, I pulled my hamstring(s) years ago playing softball. Went to PT to rehab said pulled hammies, and the therapist told me I had "abysmal" range of motion, and that I was going to pull my hamstrings and very soon groin repeatedly until I developed some range of motion. He suggested Pilates and/or Yoga. I started doing Pilates about 2-3 years ago, and it made a world of difference for my overall flexibility, core strength, back strength, etc. However we never could lengthen my hamstrings. One of the instructors made it her mission to figure out why I have such short hamstrings. We broke every movement I make down over the course of a couple of months, including walking. We realized I supinate pretty substantially, and we started focusing on distributing the weight evenly on my feet when I walk. She also recommended that I stopped wearing running shoes as my default shoes and start walking around barefoot more often. Feet get cold, so I bought a pair of Vibrams. Been wearing them about a week, and I already notice a substantial difference in my proprioception and gait.
Glad to hear it. Just don't overdo it too soon. There are a lot of muscles in your feet, ankles and lower leg that haven't gotten much work and it will take some time to build them up.
 
Purely anecdotal here but I have been wearing them since around mid april April and have completed about 1/2 of the P90 program (the first of the P90 series) all of P90M and the first month of P90X exclusively wearing Vibrams. My feet feel fantastic. I can't imagine working out in any other footwear.

I am considering taking up jogging again next year just to see how they feel.

 
Count me among the converted, which is pretty shocking to me given how skeptical I initially was. Long story short, I pulled my hamstring(s) years ago playing softball. Went to PT to rehab said pulled hammies, and the therapist told me I had "abysmal" range of motion, and that I was going to pull my hamstrings and very soon groin repeatedly until I developed some range of motion. He suggested Pilates and/or Yoga. I started doing Pilates about 2-3 years ago, and it made a world of difference for my overall flexibility, core strength, back strength, etc. However we never could lengthen my hamstrings. One of the instructors made it her mission to figure out why I have such short hamstrings. We broke every movement I make down over the course of a couple of months, including walking. We realized I supinate pretty substantially, and we started focusing on distributing the weight evenly on my feet when I walk. She also recommended that I stopped wearing running shoes as my default shoes and start walking around barefoot more often. Feet get cold, so I bought a pair of Vibrams. Been wearing them about a week, and I already notice a substantial difference in my proprioception and gait.
Glad to hear it. Just don't overdo it too soon. There are a lot of muscles in your feet, ankles and lower leg that haven't gotten much work and it will take some time to build them up.
Oh, I'm not. I'm just wearing them around the house for the time being and on short walks. Can't imagine running in them or working out in them yet, but I'm looking forward to easing into those activities after a few weeks of adjusting.
 
New research is casting doubt on the old adage, “All you need to run is a pair of shoes.”

Scientists have found that people who run barefoot, or in minimal footwear, tend to avoid “heel-striking,” and instead land on the ball of the foot or the middle of the foot. In so doing, these runners use the architecture of the foot and leg and some clever Newtonian physics to avoid hurtful and potentially damaging impacts, equivalent to two to three times body weight, that shod heel-strikers repeatedly experience.

“People who don’t wear shoes when they run have an astonishingly different strike,” said Daniel E. Lieberman, professor of human evolutionary biology at Harvard University and co-author of a paper appearing this week in the journal Nature. “By landing on the middle or front of the foot, barefoot runners have almost no impact collision, much less than most shod runners generate when they heel-strike.

“Most people today think barefoot running is dangerous and hurts, but actually you can run barefoot on the world’s hardest surfaces without the slightest discomfort and pain. All you need is a few calluses to avoid roughing up the skin of the foot. Further, it might be less injurious than the way some people run in shoes.”

Working with populations of runners in the United States and Kenya, Lieberman and his colleagues at Harvard, the University of Glasgow, and Moi University in Kenya looked at the running gaits of three groups: those who had always run barefoot, those who had always worn shoes, and those who had converted to barefoot running from shod running. The researchers found a striking pattern.

Most shod runners — more than 75 percent of Americans — heel-strike, experiencing a very large and sudden collision force about 1,000 times per mile run. People who run barefoot, however, tend to land with a springy step toward the middle or front of the foot.

“Heel-striking is painful when barefoot or in minimal shoes because it causes a large collisional force each time a foot lands on the ground,” said co-author Madhusudhan Venkadesan, a postdoctoral researcher in applied mathematics and human evolutionary biology at Harvard. “Barefoot runners point their toes more at landing, avoiding this collision by decreasing the effective mass of the foot that comes to a sudden stop when you land, and by having a more compliant, or springy, leg.”

The differences between shod and unshod running have evolutionary underpinnings. For example, said Lieberman, our early Australopith ancestors had less-developed arches in their feet. Homo sapiens, by contrast, has evolved a strong, large arch that we use as a spring when running.

“Our feet were made in part for running,” Lieberman said. But as he and his co-authors write in Nature: “Humans have engaged in endurance running for millions of years, but the modern running shoe was not invented until the 1970s. For most of human evolutionary history, runners were either barefoot or wore minimal footwear such as sandals or moccasins with smaller heels and little cushioning.”

For modern humans who have grown up wearing shoes, barefoot or minimal shoe running is something to be eased into, warned Lieberman. Modern running shoes are designed to make heel-striking easy and comfortable. The padded heel cushions the force of the impact, making heel-striking less punishing.

“Running barefoot or in minimal shoes is fun but uses different muscles,” said Lieberman. “If you’ve been a heel-striker all your life, you have to transition slowly to build strength in your calf and foot muscles.”

In the future, he hopes, the kind of work done in this paper can not only investigate barefoot running but can provide insight into how to better prevent the repetitive-stress injuries that afflict a high percentage of runners today.

“Our hope is that an evolutionary medicine approach to running and sports injury can help people run better for longer and feel better while they do it,” said Lieberman, who has created a Web site, to educate runners about the respective merits of shod and barefoot running. LINK
 
just bought a pair of these. Guy at store said don't overdo it right away. Is there a good cheatsheet on how to ease into these?

 
just bought a pair of these. Guy at store said don't overdo it right away. Is there a good cheatsheet on how to ease into these?
for general walking, if you start feeling pain in your feet, knees, or hips that seems joint related, take a brief break from them. for running, same applies but ease them into your routine. start @ a 2:1 non-vibram to vibram ratio and start shirting towards more runs with them on as you feel, again slowly if you feel discomfort
 
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just bought a pair of these. Guy at store said don't overdo it right away. Is there a good cheatsheet on how to ease into these?
for general walking, if you start feeling pain in your feet, knees, or hips that seems joint related, take a brief break from them. for running, same applies but ease them into your routine. start @ a 2:1 non-vibram to vibram ratio and start shirting towards more runs with them on as you feel, again slowly if you feel discomfort
But you should expect to have some muscle pain in your ankle and calf as the lateral stabilizing muscles that don't normally get used are suddenly getting a work out.
 
just bought a pair of these. Guy at store said don't overdo it right away. Is there a good cheatsheet on how to ease into these?
for general walking, if you start feeling pain in your feet, knees, or hips that seems joint related, take a brief break from them. for running, same applies but ease them into your routine. start @ a 2:1 non-vibram to vibram ratio and start shirting towards more runs with them on as you feel, again slowly if you feel discomfort
But you should expect to have some muscle pain in your ankle and calf as the lateral stabilizing muscles that don't normally get used are suddenly getting a work out.
I think I rushed into mine too quickly, and ended up with Achilles tendonitis. Just finished up PT for that about a month ago and slowly working back into jogging with just regular running shoes. Tried the Vibrams one time since, but felt some tendon soreness which scared me off.Love the Vibrams for walking around, but it may be a while before I try working back to them for running.
 
Anyone know a good place to get the socks inexpensively? I tend not to wear them much in MN during the winter because I only have one pair fo the socks.

 
just bought a pair of these. Guy at store said don't overdo it right away. Is there a good cheatsheet on how to ease into these?
for general walking, if you start feeling pain in your feet, knees, or hips that seems joint related, take a brief break from them. for running, same applies but ease them into your routine. start @ a 2:1 non-vibram to vibram ratio and start shirting towards more runs with them on as you feel, again slowly if you feel discomfort
But you should expect to have some muscle pain in your ankle and calf as the lateral stabilizing muscles that don't normally get used are suddenly getting a work out.
I think I rushed into mine too quickly, and ended up with Achilles tendonitis. Just finished up PT for that about a month ago and slowly working back into jogging with just regular running shoes. Tried the Vibrams one time since, but felt some tendon soreness which scared me off.Love the Vibrams for walking around, but it may be a while before I try working back to them for running.
They are not for everyone. Some people simply aren't designed to handle these, for others it will take a very long and methodical transition to get to the point of wearing them regularly. Still others will make an immediate transition with no problem. It all depends on how you are built.For my part I pretty much jumped in head first and started doing P90 in them from the first day. I have gone through P90, P90M & most of P90X over the last nine months all while wearing them and never had anything other than some muscle soreness, which I have not experienced since the first month of wearing them.I still haven't gone running in them, but that's because I haven't been running over the last nine months. I imagine I will give it a try in mid-Jan after I finish P90X.
 
Living in Manhattan I'd pretty much only use these on the streets or on the treadmill. If I'm running 3 miles a day, 4 days a week on a treadmill, would the VF be a food investment compared to the Sauconys I use now?

 
Living in Manhattan I'd pretty much only use these on the streets or on the treadmill. If I'm running 3 miles a day, 4 days a week on a treadmill, would the VF be a food investment compared to the Sauconys I use now?
For me, yes. For you the only way to know for sure is to try them out.I swear by mine.
 
just bought a pair of these. Guy at store said don't overdo it right away. Is there a good cheatsheet on how to ease into these?
for general walking, if you start feeling pain in your feet, knees, or hips that seems joint related, take a brief break from them. for running, same applies but ease them into your routine. start @ a 2:1 non-vibram to vibram ratio and start shirting towards more runs with them on as you feel, again slowly if you feel discomfort
But you should expect to have some muscle pain in your ankle and calf as the lateral stabilizing muscles that don't normally get used are suddenly getting a work out.
I think I rushed into mine too quickly, and ended up with Achilles tendonitis. Just finished up PT for that about a month ago and slowly working back into jogging with just regular running shoes. Tried the Vibrams one time since, but felt some tendon soreness which scared me off.Love the Vibrams for walking around, but it may be a while before I try working back to them for running.
They are not for everyone. Some people simply aren't designed to handle these, for others it will take a very long and methodical transition to get to the point of wearing them regularly. Still others will make an immediate transition with no problem. It all depends on how you are built.For my part I pretty much jumped in head first and started doing P90 in them from the first day. I have gone through P90, P90M & most of P90X over the last nine months all while wearing them and never had anything other than some muscle soreness, which I have not experienced since the first month of wearing them.I still haven't gone running in them, but that's because I haven't been running over the last nine months. I imagine I will give it a try in mid-Jan after I finish P90X.
I was doing fine with mine running on an indoor track, then decided one day to run on the treadmill. I don't know if I was trying to hold too much speed for too long or what, but I stumbled a bit and felt the Achilles go **ZING!!**I might have been fine if I'd stuck to the track.
 
For some reason I am having a difficult time deciding what model to buy. I read all the descriptions, but not sure which would be best for me. Perhaps someone here could help?

I would use mine for a couple of short runs each week (2 miles or so), a yoga session here and there (4 or 5 a month), some walking of my dogs in the woods (when the weather is better 2 or 3 times a week), some Insanity workouts (I don't go full force, I do maybe 3 or 4 sessions a week). All that is best case scenario, for I am certainly known to get lazy as #### for weeks at a time and in that case I would use them for frequent trips to the fridge to get beer (3 times and hour for a couple hours a day).

 
For some reason I am having a difficult time deciding what model to buy. I read all the descriptions, but not sure which would be best for me. Perhaps someone here could help?I would use mine for a couple of short runs each week (2 miles or so), a yoga session here and there (4 or 5 a month), some walking of my dogs in the woods (when the weather is better 2 or 3 times a week), some Insanity workouts (I don't go full force, I do maybe 3 or 4 sessions a week). All that is best case scenario, for I am certainly known to get lazy as #### for weeks at a time and in that case I would use them for frequent trips to the fridge to get beer (3 times and hour for a couple hours a day).
The KSO would be fine for that routine. Although I am not sure how well they would do if you are running outside during Minnesota winters. The Flow is supposed to provide more insulation, how that holds up in the frozen tundra remains to be seen.
 
As an fyi on these in general. The Army has said "no way jose to these" for the semi annual fitness test. I believe it was said that they posed an unfair advantage in the run event. I think as far as far as daily organized physical training it was left up to unit commanders.

 
As an fyi on these in general. The Army has said "no way jose to these" for the semi annual fitness test. I believe it was said that they posed an unfair advantage in the run event. I think as far as far as daily organized physical training it was left up to unit commanders.
Hmmm. In the AF you can wear them but you have to wear socks too.
 
I officially joined the "Barefoot Revolution" today. Went with the Merrell Barefoot Trail Glove. All the benefits of going barefoot without the gimmicky individual toe thingies. Seems a bit ridiculous to pay so much for such a lightweight shoe, but they're getting great reviews and I envision myself wearing these everywhere this summer.

 
Bought a pair for the water, but I have a hard time getting my toes in the individual toe spaces (other than the big toe). They fit me correctly overall, but maybe I have small toes? I tried powder, but that didn't work. They are brand new. Am I doing something wrong or just grossly disfigured? TIA

 
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Bought a pair for the water, but I have a hard time getting my toes in the individual toe spaces (other than the big toe). They fit me correctly overall, but maybe I have small toes? I tried powder, but that didn't work. They are brand new. Am I doing something wrong or just grossly disfigured? TIA
my little piggy just won't go home in those
 
Took the leap today with a pair of Black M45 KSOs. I'm pretty pumped about these because my left foot can take a beating and come out fine, but my right for has a high arch and every running/cross trainer I have ever worn puts way too much pressure on the ball of my right foot. Without the heel, that pressure is completely gone. Also, from the small amount of jogging I did today, I could tell that my gait was much more fluid and natural. In running shoes I have to concentrate to not have my heels drag every step.

Do you guys buy the Injinji toe socks or just make sure to wash the shoes every week so they won't get funky?

 
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Ran for the first time yesterday since Halloween (in MN and hate treadmills) and wow are my calves sore today! Thought I took it lightly, but the bottom of my calves disagree

Bought another pair of Vibrams the other day, the Trecksport. So far liking them, much less of a hassle to put on then my KSOs, and looking forward to playing some grass volleyball in them with the little nubbins for traction.

Also picked up a pair of Merrell cross trainers with Vibram technology soles. Feels weird to have a shoe on that doesn't have any heal cushioning or arch support...I feel like I'm standing on an incline.

 
Do you guys buy the Injinji toe socks or just make sure to wash the shoes every week so they won't get funky?
I have never run into someone wearing socks with their Vibrams (nor do I). I toss them in the wash machine when I notice a funk. My KSOs have probably been through the wash machine 7 or 8 times in two years and look almost the same as the day I bought them.
 
I officially joined the "Barefoot Revolution" today. Went with the Merrell Barefoot Trail Glove. All the benefits of going barefoot without the gimmicky individual toe thingies. Seems a bit ridiculous to pay so much for such a lightweight shoe, but they're getting great reviews and I envision myself wearing these everywhere this summer.
Played my first round of golf in these last week. Set a new course record.
 
I officially joined the "Barefoot Revolution" today. Went with the Merrell Barefoot Trail Glove. All the benefits of going barefoot without the gimmicky individual toe thingies. Seems a bit ridiculous to pay so much for such a lightweight shoe, but they're getting great reviews and I envision myself wearing these everywhere this summer.
Played my first round of golf in these last week. Set a new course record.
I bought a pair of these for cross training. After my first 3 mile run, my calves felt like the were going to explode for the next couple days. I liked the way the feel, I think I have to just get more used to them. But I am curious about the golf, and why they caused you to play so well?

 
I officially joined the "Barefoot Revolution" today. Went with the Merrell Barefoot Trail Glove. All the benefits of going barefoot without the gimmicky individual toe thingies. Seems a bit ridiculous to pay so much for such a lightweight shoe, but they're getting great reviews and I envision myself wearing these everywhere this summer.
Played my first round of golf in these last week. Set a new course record.
I bought a pair of these for cross training. After my first 3 mile run, my calves felt like the were going to explode for the next couple days. I liked the way the feel, I think I have to just get more used to them. But I am curious about the golf, and why they caused you to play so well?
lol... I was mostly kidding. They are super-grippy though and actually gave me much better traction than any soft-spike golf shoes ever did.I really do love everything about these shoes though. Just super comfy and light.

 
I officially joined the "Barefoot Revolution" today. Went with the Merrell Barefoot Trail Glove. All the benefits of going barefoot without the gimmicky individual toe thingies. Seems a bit ridiculous to pay so much for such a lightweight shoe, but they're getting great reviews and I envision myself wearing these everywhere this summer.
Played my first round of golf in these last week. Set a new course record.
I bought a pair of these for cross training. After my first 3 mile run, my calves felt like the were going to explode for the next couple days. I liked the way the feel, I think I have to just get more used to them. But I am curious about the golf, and why they caused you to play so well?
lol... I was mostly kidding. They are super-grippy though and actually gave me much better traction than any soft-spike golf shoes ever did.I really do love everything about these shoes though. Just super comfy and light.
I played 9 holes in mine (walking), and my feet felt MUCH better afterward than usual - not a bit tired. But my swing was "off" the whole round. For one, I think my whole setup was a quarter-inch lower to the ground due to the thinner sole, so I hit a lot of "fat" shots early on. But the bigger thing was that they just had too much flex during the swing, and I kept feeling my toes curl under on my back foot. The swing just never felt right.My assessment was that I would have to ALWAYS wear them in order to get used to the feel. Switching between them and my regular golf shoes, one or the other would always feel funny.

 
I officially joined the "Barefoot Revolution" today. Went with the Merrell Barefoot Trail Glove. All the benefits of going barefoot without the gimmicky individual toe thingies. Seems a bit ridiculous to pay so much for such a lightweight shoe, but they're getting great reviews and I envision myself wearing these everywhere this summer.
Played my first round of golf in these last week. Set a new course record.
I bought a pair of these for cross training. After my first 3 mile run, my calves felt like the were going to explode for the next couple days. I liked the way the feel, I think I have to just get more used to them. But I am curious about the golf, and why they caused you to play so well?
lol... I was mostly kidding. They are super-grippy though and actually gave me much better traction than any soft-spike golf shoes ever did.I really do love everything about these shoes though. Just super comfy and light.
I played 9 holes in mine (walking), and my feet felt MUCH better afterward than usual - not a bit tired. But my swing was "off" the whole round. For one, I think my whole setup was a quarter-inch lower to the ground due to the thinner sole, so I hit a lot of "fat" shots early on. But the bigger thing was that they just had too much flex during the swing, and I kept feeling my toes curl under on my back foot. The swing just never felt right.My assessment was that I would have to ALWAYS wear them in order to get used to the feel. Switching between them and my regular golf shoes, one or the other would always feel funny.
I quit wearing golf shoes years ago when they outlawed metal spikes. Soft-spikes don't actually do anything so I just wear my most comfortable walking shoe (now my Merell Trail Gloves). I agree that they flex a lot and grip the ground more than any other shoe, but after the 3rd beer, I didnt really notice any more.
 
I played a round of golf in my five fingers last year and loved it...it was the most relaxed round I think I've ever played in my life and I really enjoyed it. I do have a pair of the Merrell barefoot Trail Glove and think I might make them my permanent golf shoe.

 
The daughter wants a pair of these for her birthday...

Has anyone found a particularly price effective place to purchase them from?

 
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