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Vick Absolves Himself From Blame (1 Viewer)

juveduke said:
Big Score said:
He was awful this past weekend. And it wasn't his receivers.

Then he blames the defense for not forcing Carolina into a 3 and out every time.

Just say you sucked and move on :lmao:
:lmao: Dude,

Obviously you didn't see the game. One of the worst NFL games I've ever seen. It was like watching High School football.

EVERYONE blamed Atlanta's D for that loss.

When one of the NFL's poorer running teams comes in & calls 52 runs (only attempted 7 passes for the enitre game), pulls their QB off the field & direct snaps it to their RB on 3rd downs all game long & the Falcons D can only come up with just a couple of stops, while allowing Carolina to have time of possesion control with 41:47, it IS the D's fault.

The Falcons D only gave their offense the ball for 18 freakin' minutes. :shrug: :X
I was at the game. The offense had 9 ####### possessions and put up 3 points. There are two sides to the time of possession, when you're offense goes three and out every time, do you really expect to win the TOP battle?
Since one of the offenses 9 ####### possesions was for a grand total of 14 seconds, for all intents & purposes, the Falcons had 8 offensive series.Agreed that it is indeed tough to win the time of posssesion when the offense is inept.

But on the other hand it is absolutely impossible to win the time of possesion, when the D is giving up 10 & a half minute drives, 8 minute drives, 6 minute drives, 5 minute drives etc...etc...etc...

As hburgers11 pointed out 8 offensive series is the NFL average (don't know if that's accurate or not, just taking hburgers11's word for it), however, a 41:37 time of possesion off of only 8 offensive series, is most certainly NOT the NFL average.

Any time you see an NFL defense give up over 40 minutes to another teams offense on only 8 series, sure the offense didn't do their part, but the inescapable conclusion is that when the defense was on the field, they simply could not stop the other teams offense. :thumbup:

As a side note, if you were really at the game, you'd know that Atlanta's offense only went 3 & out once. But I imagine you're just frusterated by the Falcons performance (on both sides of the ball & we won't even bring up Rossum's return TD that got called by back by a Jenkins clipping penalty away from Rossum's run back) & some exageration likely crept in?

 
hburgers11 said:
Big Score said:
hburgers11 said:
The only reason the defense was on the field so much was because the offense sucked. The defense stopped them almost every time.
:eek: Apparently you did not see the game. The Panthers running game was stopped by offensive penalties my friend, NOT by the Falcons defense.

The only time in that ENTIRE game that the Falcons D stopped Carolina's run game without the aid of penalties, was once (that's ONE time).

Check the game log if you don't believe me. :hot:
So it was always a loss of down penalty too that occurred? Maybe the reason they were holding was because they were only averaging 3.5 yards per carry. PS I just checked the game log. Apparently you dont remember these plays...

3rd and 8 at CAR 39 (7:35) C.Weinke sacked at CAR 34 for -5 yards (L.Milloy).

1st and 10 at 50 (1:13) S.Smith left end to CAR 45 for -5 yards (J.Williams).

2nd and 15 at CAR 45 (:32) C.Weinke FUMBLES (Aborted) at CAR 45, recovered by CAR-B.Hoover at CAR 43. End of half.

3rd and 2 at CAR 39 (11:46) D.Williams left end pushed ob at CAR 37 for -2 yards (C.Crocker). Direct snap to Williams.

3rd and 4 at ATL 40 (1:21) C.Weinke sacked at ATL 48 for -8 yards (M.Boley).

3rd and 11 at CAR 34 (9:42) C.Weinke sacked at CAR 26 for -8 yards (R.Coleman).

3rd and 5 at CAR 40 (1:09) D.Williams left end to CAR 40 for no gain (D.Hall).

3rd and 16 at CAR 6 (4:36) D.Foster up the middle to CAR 5 for -1 yards (J.Mallard, D.Shropshire).

So any drive that the carolina offense had a penalty on automatically means that the Atl. defense did nothing? Seriously dude, just give up. The offense sucked. they scored 3 points in 8 possesions.

The defense played well. They gave up less than 200 yards and only gave up 10 points. Last time i checked penalties are not subtracted from offensive yardage. The offense got 8 possesions, which is about the NFL average from what i can see. The worst offense in the league averages 11 points and 248 yards per game.

ATL defense did their job as well as it could be done considering how absolutely horrible the offense played.

But hey, Vick got his 1000 yards. He is special.
Reading comprehension skills down huh?If you read my post correctly, you saw I was specifically addressing the Atlanta D's failure to stop Carolina's run game...

"The Panthers running game was stopped by offensive penalties my friend, NOT by the Falcons defense."

"The only time in that ENTIRE game that the Falcons D stopped Carolina's run game without the aid of penalties, was once (that's ONE time)."

The end around by Smith & Wienke's snafus, were not part of Carolina's run game. :thumbup:

 
juveduke said:
Big Score said:
He was awful this past weekend. And it wasn't his receivers.

Then he blames the defense for not forcing Carolina into a 3 and out every time.

Just say you sucked and move on :rant:
:lol: Dude,

Obviously you didn't see the game. One of the worst NFL games I've ever seen. It was like watching High School football.

EVERYONE blamed Atlanta's D for that loss.

When one of the NFL's poorer running teams comes in & calls 52 runs (only attempted 7 passes for the enitre game), pulls their QB off the field & direct snaps it to their RB on 3rd downs all game long & the Falcons D can only come up with just a couple of stops, while allowing Carolina to have time of possesion control with 41:47, it IS the D's fault.

The Falcons D only gave their offense the ball for 18 freakin' minutes. :loco: :X
I was at the game. The offense had 9 ####### possessions and put up 3 points. There are two sides to the time of possession, when you're offense goes three and out every time, do you really expect to win the TOP battle?
Since one of the offenses 9 ####### possesions was for a grand total of 14 seconds, for all intents & purposes, the Falcons had 8 offensive series.Agreed that it is indeed tough to win the time of posssesion when the offense is inept.

But on the other hand it is absolutely impossible to win the time of possesion, when the D is giving up 10 & a half minute drives, 8 minute drives, 6 minute drives, 5 minute drives etc...etc...etc...

As hburgers11 pointed out 8 offensive series is the NFL average (don't know if that's accurate or not, just taking hburgers11's word for it), however, a 41:37 time of possesion off of only 8 offensive series, is most certainly NOT the NFL average.

Any time you see an NFL defense give up over 40 minutes to another teams offense on only 8 series, sure the offense didn't do their part, but the inescapable conclusion is that when the defense was on the field, they simply could not stop the other teams offense. :shrug:

As a side note, if you were really at the game, you'd know that Atlanta's offense only went 3 & out once. But I imagine you're just frusterated by the Falcons performance (on both sides of the ball & we won't even bring up Rossum's return TD that got called by back by a Jenkins clipping penalty away from Rossum's run back) & some exageration likely crept in?
I will give you that the Panthers TD drive was a great one. They burned up over 10 minutes of clock time and pushed the defense around. But after that it was a whole different story. Their next drive the panthers burned 6 minutes and they gained a whole 19 net yards and got one first down. I would say the Atl. defense did their job just fine.

The next drive carolina started at the 44 because of an INT. The defense gave up 19 yards only and gave up the FG. Atlanta defense did its job. Drive took 3 minutes.

The next drive the panthers lost 5 yards and burned 1:13. Atl defense did its job.

Next drive the panthers gained 17 yards and burned 3.5 minutes from the clock. Atl defense does its job.

Next drive panthers gained a whopping 32 yards and burned 8 minutes from the clock. Seemed like carolina may start to finally win the battle in the trenches and wear down the Atl defense, when they come up big on 3rd down at midfield. Atl defense does its job.

Next drive(which is only 2 minutes later mind you) Carolina gets one first down on a roughing the kicker call and gains a whole 14 yards net, including the penalty yards and burns 4.75 minutes. Atl defense does its job.

Next drive carolina burns over 3 minutes of clock time and loses 7 yards. Even though the atlanta defense seems to have been on the field forever, they keep getting stronger.

Next drive Carolina gains 5 yards and burns 1 minute off the clock. Atl defense at least gets the falcons the chance at scoring again.

The defense gave up 12 yards in the 4th quarter. 61 in the second half. Take away the one TD drive and Atlantas defense actually played an amazing game.

This is getting to be like the little kid who refuses to admit he isnt invisible when he has his eyes closed.

 
hburgers11 said:
You are getting caught up on something that means nothing. TOP is only a factor if...

A. your defense is tired and then it cant stop the other team
You're arguing in circles & contradicting yourself here.
hburgers11 said:
The defense was probably exhausted...
 
juveduke said:
Big Score said:
He was awful this past weekend. And it wasn't his receivers.

Then he blames the defense for not forcing Carolina into a 3 and out every time.

Just say you sucked and move on :rant:
:lol: Dude,

Obviously you didn't see the game. One of the worst NFL games I've ever seen. It was like watching High School football.

EVERYONE blamed Atlanta's D for that loss.

When one of the NFL's poorer running teams comes in & calls 52 runs (only attempted 7 passes for the enitre game), pulls their QB off the field & direct snaps it to their RB on 3rd downs all game long & the Falcons D can only come up with just a couple of stops, while allowing Carolina to have time of possesion control with 41:47, it IS the D's fault.

The Falcons D only gave their offense the ball for 18 freakin' minutes. :yucky: :X
I was at the game. The offense had 9 ####### possessions and put up 3 points. There are two sides to the time of possession, when you're offense goes three and out every time, do you really expect to win the TOP battle?
Since one of the offenses 9 ####### possesions was for a grand total of 14 seconds, for all intents & purposes, the Falcons had 8 offensive series.Agreed that it is indeed tough to win the time of posssesion when the offense is inept.

But on the other hand it is absolutely impossible to win the time of possesion, when the D is giving up 10 & a half minute drives, 8 minute drives, 6 minute drives, 5 minute drives etc...etc...etc...

As hburgers11 pointed out 8 offensive series is the NFL average (don't know if that's accurate or not, just taking hburgers11's word for it), however, a 41:37 time of possesion off of only 8 offensive series, is most certainly NOT the NFL average.

Any time you see an NFL defense give up over 40 minutes to another teams offense on only 8 series, sure the offense didn't do their part, but the inescapable conclusion is that when the defense was on the field, they simply could not stop the other teams offense. :shrug:

As a side note, if you were really at the game, you'd know that Atlanta's offense only went 3 & out once. But I imagine you're just frusterated by the Falcons performance (on both sides of the ball & we won't even bring up Rossum's return TD that got called by back by a Jenkins clipping penalty away from Rossum's run back) & some exageration likely crept in?
I will give you that the Panthers TD drive was a great one. They burned up over 10 minutes of clock time and pushed the defense around. But after that it was a whole different story. Their next drive the panthers burned 6 minutes and they gained a whole 19 net yards and got one first down. I would say the Atl. defense did their job just fine.

The next drive carolina started at the 44 because of an INT. The defense gave up 19 yards only and gave up the FG. Atlanta defense did its job. Drive took 3 minutes.

The next drive the panthers lost 5 yards and burned 1:13. Atl defense did its job.

Next drive the panthers gained 17 yards and burned 3.5 minutes from the clock. Atl defense does its job.

Next drive panthers gained a whopping 32 yards and burned 8 minutes from the clock. Seemed like carolina may start to finally win the battle in the trenches and wear down the Atl defense, when they come up big on 3rd down at midfield. Atl defense does its job.

Next drive(which is only 2 minutes later mind you) Carolina gets one first down on a roughing the kicker call and gains a whole 14 yards net, including the penalty yards and burns 4.75 minutes. Atl defense does its job.

Next drive carolina burns over 3 minutes of clock time and loses 7 yards. Even though the atlanta defense seems to have been on the field forever, they keep getting stronger.

Next drive Carolina gains 5 yards and burns 1 minute off the clock. Atl defense at least gets the falcons the chance at scoring again.

The defense gave up 12 yards in the 4th quarter. 61 in the second half. Take away the one TD drive and Atlantas defense actually played an amazing game.

This is getting to be like the little kid who refuses to admit he isnt invisible when he has his eyes closed.
Carolina's Time of Possesion was the key & all I have been referring to in this thread.But this apprently goes right over your :mellow:

Obviously pointless to continue this discussion with you. :shrug:

 
hburgers11 said:
You are getting caught up on something that means nothing. TOP is only a factor if...

A. your defense is tired and then it cant stop the other team
You're arguing in circles & contradicting yourself here.
hburgers11 said:
The defense was probably exhausted...
its easy to cut parts out and pretend to make a point. Thats funny. Save face. Just admit you are wrong.

 
hburgers11 said:
You are getting caught up on something that means nothing. TOP is only a factor if...

A. your defense is tired and then it cant stop the other team
You're arguing in circles & contradicting yourself here.
hburgers11 said:
The defense was probably exhausted...
its easy to cut parts out and pretend to make a point. Thats funny. Save face. Just admit you are wrong.
:eek: As I said, obviously pointless in continuing this discussion with you. :moneybag:

 
Since one of the offenses 9 ####### possesions was for a grand total of 14 seconds, for all intents & purposes, the Falcons had 8 offensive series.

Agreed that it is indeed tough to win the time of posssesion when the offense is inept.

But on the other hand it is absolutely impossible to win the time of possesion, when the D is giving up 10 & a half minute drives, 8 minute drives, 6 minute drives, 5 minute drives etc...etc...etc...

As hburgers11 pointed out 8 offensive series is the NFL average (don't know if that's accurate or not, just taking hburgers11's word for it), however, a 41:37 time of possesion off of only 8 offensive series, is most certainly NOT the NFL average.

Any time you see an NFL defense give up over 40 minutes to another teams offense on only 8 series, sure the offense didn't do their part, but the inescapable conclusion is that when the defense was on the field, they simply could not stop the other teams offense. :thumbup:

As a side note, if you were really at the game, you'd know that Atlanta's offense only went 3 & out once. But I imagine you're just frusterated by the Falcons performance (on both sides of the ball & we won't even bring up Rossum's return TD that got called by back by a Jenkins clipping penalty away from Rossum's run back) & some exageration likely crept in?
I count the 9th possession because he threw a pick (i.e. the clock didn't end the drive).I didn't exaggerate that much. They had drives of 10, 5, 4, 4, 6, 6, 4, 7, 2 plays (including punts).

I like Vick as much as the next guy, but he had a bad game. Everyone has a bad game sometimes, even Brady, Peyton, etc. I don't care that he had a bad game, but, instead of saying as much, he blames everyone but himself and acts like he was spectactular. It gets annoying after a while.

 
Since one of the offenses 9 ####### possesions was for a grand total of 14 seconds, for all intents & purposes, the Falcons had 8 offensive series.

Agreed that it is indeed tough to win the time of posssesion when the offense is inept.

But on the other hand it is absolutely impossible to win the time of possesion, when the D is giving up 10 & a half minute drives, 8 minute drives, 6 minute drives, 5 minute drives etc...etc...etc...

As hburgers11 pointed out 8 offensive series is the NFL average (don't know if that's accurate or not, just taking hburgers11's word for it), however, a 41:37 time of possesion off of only 8 offensive series, is most certainly NOT the NFL average.

Any time you see an NFL defense give up over 40 minutes to another teams offense on only 8 series, sure the offense didn't do their part, but the inescapable conclusion is that when the defense was on the field, they simply could not stop the other teams offense. :shrug:

As a side note, if you were really at the game, you'd know that Atlanta's offense only went 3 & out once. But I imagine you're just frusterated by the Falcons performance (on both sides of the ball & we won't even bring up Rossum's return TD that got called by back by a Jenkins clipping penalty away from Rossum's run back) & some exageration likely crept in?
I count the 9th possession because he threw a pick (i.e. the clock didn't end the drive).I didn't exaggerate that much. They had drives of 10, 5, 4, 4, 6, 6, 4, 7, 2 plays (including punts).

I like Vick as much as the next guy, but he had a bad game. Everyone has a bad game sometimes, even Brady, Peyton, etc. I don't care that he had a bad game, but, instead of saying as much, he blames everyone but himself and acts like he was spectactular. It gets annoying after a while.
When the Falcons got the ball on their own 27 yardline, 14 seconds were left. On that very last play, there was only 6 seconds left in the game & Vick threw a Hail Mary but you want to count that as an offensive series? :lol: You've also got to understand that this article came out of Philly. Lot of reporter twisting of Vick's answers to questions they posed, to spin it in the worst light possible.

For example....

In the article not once do we ever see how the reporter actually poses his questions to Vick, only the reporters synopsis. If it was a legitimate Q&A, why wouldn't the reporter show us how he really posed his questions?

Obviously at one point the reporter asked Vick what went wrong with the season & Vick replied;

"I don't know. I can't really say," said Vick. "That's for you guys to go watch the film and see what really went wrong. Stat-wise, everything looks good. It looks gravy. I think we had a good year, but at the same time something didn't go right. That's the question that needs to be answered."
If you notice in the above response Vick says "I think WE had a good year" meaning the team & I would bet the stats he's referring to are the teams...his...Crumps...Dunn's...Norwood's...etcBut the reporter takes Vick's answer and spins it...

To him, his stats have been "gravy."
When Vick talks about his own stats he's pretty down about the results;

"Anytime you have over 3,000 yards of total offense in a season as a player, I think you should be in the winning bracket in the wins and loss column. You should have way more wins than you have losses."
So the reporter takes this and trys to bait Vick into throwing Knapp & the WR's under the bus, but Vick doesn't bite;Is offensive coordinator Greg Knapp putting Vick and the Falcons in a good position to win games?

"I don't know," said Vick. "I think so. I hope so. I can't say. I really can't say."
Is it the wide receivers?
"We've had a lot of dropped balls this year, but as a player I have to move on," said Vick. "I'm going to take the heat. I'm going to take the criticism for the losses." "I never went to the press and said this is what's going on," said Vick. "I just take all the heat."
Curses.

Vick doesn't take the bait & throw his OC & the WR's under the bus. In fact, Vick does the opposite and says he'll take the heat & criticism.

How can the reporter spin these answers negatively? Ah! Sarcasm is a reporters best friend when all else fails. The reporters response?

At least Vick doesn't complain to the media.
I'm not going to even bother with the rest, but this is bait & switch journalism at it's best. :lmao:
 
Since one of the offenses 9 ####### possesions was for a grand total of 14 seconds, for all intents & purposes, the Falcons had 8 offensive series.

Agreed that it is indeed tough to win the time of posssesion when the offense is inept.

But on the other hand it is absolutely impossible to win the time of possesion, when the D is giving up 10 & a half minute drives, 8 minute drives, 6 minute drives, 5 minute drives etc...etc...etc...

As hburgers11 pointed out 8 offensive series is the NFL average (don't know if that's accurate or not, just taking hburgers11's word for it), however, a 41:37 time of possesion off of only 8 offensive series, is most certainly NOT the NFL average.

Any time you see an NFL defense give up over 40 minutes to another teams offense on only 8 series, sure the offense didn't do their part, but the inescapable conclusion is that when the defense was on the field, they simply could not stop the other teams offense. :goodposting:

As a side note, if you were really at the game, you'd know that Atlanta's offense only went 3 & out once. But I imagine you're just frusterated by the Falcons performance (on both sides of the ball & we won't even bring up Rossum's return TD that got called by back by a Jenkins clipping penalty away from Rossum's run back) & some exageration likely crept in?
I count the 9th possession because he threw a pick (i.e. the clock didn't end the drive).I didn't exaggerate that much. They had drives of 10, 5, 4, 4, 6, 6, 4, 7, 2 plays (including punts).

I like Vick as much as the next guy, but he had a bad game. Everyone has a bad game sometimes, even Brady, Peyton, etc. I don't care that he had a bad game, but, instead of saying as much, he blames everyone but himself and acts like he was spectactular. It gets annoying after a while.
When the Falcons got the ball on their own 27 yardline, 14 seconds were left. On that very last play, there was only 6 seconds left in the game & Vick threw a Hail Mary but you want to count that as an offensive series? :lol: You've also got to understand that this article came out of Philly. Lot of reporter twisting of Vick's answers to questions they posed, to spin it in the worst light possible.

For example....

In the article not once do we ever see how the reporter actually poses his questions to Vick, only the reporters synopsis. If it was a legitimate Q&A, why wouldn't the reporter show us how he really posed his questions?

Obviously at one point the reporter asked Vick what went wrong with the season & Vick replied;

"I don't know. I can't really say," said Vick. "That's for you guys to go watch the film and see what really went wrong. Stat-wise, everything looks good. It looks gravy. I think we had a good year, but at the same time something didn't go right. That's the question that needs to be answered."
If you notice in the above response Vick says "I think WE had a good year" meaning the team & I would bet the stats he's referring to are the teams...his...Crumps...Dunn's...Norwood's...etcBut the reporter takes Vick's answer and spins it...

To him, his stats have been "gravy."
When Vick talks about his own stats he's pretty down about the results;

"Anytime you have over 3,000 yards of total offense in a season as a player, I think you should be in the winning bracket in the wins and loss column. You should have way more wins than you have losses."
So the reporter takes this and trys to bait Vick into throwing Knapp & the WR's under the bus, but Vick doesn't bite;Is offensive coordinator Greg Knapp putting Vick and the Falcons in a good position to win games?

"I don't know," said Vick. "I think so. I hope so. I can't say. I really can't say."
Is it the wide receivers?
"We've had a lot of dropped balls this year, but as a player I have to move on," said Vick. "I'm going to take the heat. I'm going to take the criticism for the losses." "I never went to the press and said this is what's going on," said Vick. "I just take all the heat."
Curses.

Vick doesn't take the bait & throw his OC & the WR's under the bus. In fact, Vick does the opposite and says he'll take the heat & criticism.

How can the reporter spin these answers negatively? Ah! Sarcasm is a reporters best friend when all else fails. The reporters response?

At least Vick doesn't complain to the media.
I'm not going to even bother with the rest, but this is bait & switch journalism at it's best. :lol:
I would think that somebody who likes to cut and paste quotes and partial quotes out of context could appreciate such journalism.I think you are focusing on the wrong things.

1. Vick clearly states he feels he has played consistently week in and week out.

2. He clearly states he doesnt know what else he could have done.

3. He feels good about what he accomplished this season.

4. He feels that 19 TD passes should eliminate any questions about his passing ability.

For these comments and these comments alone, I think Vick is acting like a fool.

 
Context is everything, and reporters are outstanding at throwing context out the window. Without seeing a transcript of the entire interview, there is no way to know exactly what Vick meant by any of his statements.

That said, the problems with Michael Vick and the Falcons are deep, complex, and many. I've watched almost all of the Falcons' games this season, and it's obvious that the team has issues on the offensive side of the ball. The O-Line can't pass protect - Vick has to start dodging /scrambling almost as soon as he sets up to throw. The play-calling has been a mystery. When Finneran went down, Vick lost the only WR who can actually catch - and even Alge has struggled this year with the dropsies. I've also noticed that Vick seems to be unprotected by the new "Roughing" rules, even when he stays in the pocket.

However, most of the problems have their roots in either the GM's office or the HC's. I remember when Mora came in and installed the West Coast offense - nobody, but nobody - thought that it was a good idea because its strengths are Vick's weaknesses. To add insult to injury, Mora et al. haven't really tried to adapt the system to fit Vick's strengths; instead, they've tried to turn him into the kind of QB that he isn't. I think that Vick has shown both growth and patience to have had the amount of success that he has within the confines of their system. Yes, you could try to argue that the team's 2004 success somehow relates to Mora's first year; however, it would be a weak argument at best - and unsupported by Vick's stats.

Unfortunately for Vick and us Falcons fans, the fixes won't be simple, easy, or cheap.

BTW, here's a "What if" lineup that the Falcons could have fielded:

QB: Favre (drafted as a rookie) RB: Tomlinson (instead of Vick) WR: Harrison, Wayne (each passed over in their respective years)

Almost makes me want to :shrug:

 
Since one of the offenses 9 ####### possesions was for a grand total of 14 seconds, for all intents & purposes, the Falcons had 8 offensive series.

Agreed that it is indeed tough to win the time of posssesion when the offense is inept.

But on the other hand it is absolutely impossible to win the time of possesion, when the D is giving up 10 & a half minute drives, 8 minute drives, 6 minute drives, 5 minute drives etc...etc...etc...

As hburgers11 pointed out 8 offensive series is the NFL average (don't know if that's accurate or not, just taking hburgers11's word for it), however, a 41:37 time of possesion off of only 8 offensive series, is most certainly NOT the NFL average.

Any time you see an NFL defense give up over 40 minutes to another teams offense on only 8 series, sure the offense didn't do their part, but the inescapable conclusion is that when the defense was on the field, they simply could not stop the other teams offense. :shrug:

As a side note, if you were really at the game, you'd know that Atlanta's offense only went 3 & out once. But I imagine you're just frusterated by the Falcons performance (on both sides of the ball & we won't even bring up Rossum's return TD that got called by back by a Jenkins clipping penalty away from Rossum's run back) & some exageration likely crept in?
I count the 9th possession because he threw a pick (i.e. the clock didn't end the drive).I didn't exaggerate that much. They had drives of 10, 5, 4, 4, 6, 6, 4, 7, 2 plays (including punts).

I like Vick as much as the next guy, but he had a bad game. Everyone has a bad game sometimes, even Brady, Peyton, etc. I don't care that he had a bad game, but, instead of saying as much, he blames everyone but himself and acts like he was spectactular. It gets annoying after a while.
When the Falcons got the ball on their own 27 yardline, 14 seconds were left. On that very last play, there was only 6 seconds left in the game & Vick threw a Hail Mary but you want to count that as an offensive series? :lol: You've also got to understand that this article came out of Philly. Lot of reporter twisting of Vick's answers to questions they posed, to spin it in the worst light possible.

For example....

In the article not once do we ever see how the reporter actually poses his questions to Vick, only the reporters synopsis. If it was a legitimate Q&A, why wouldn't the reporter show us how he really posed his questions?

Obviously at one point the reporter asked Vick what went wrong with the season & Vick replied;

"I don't know. I can't really say," said Vick. "That's for you guys to go watch the film and see what really went wrong. Stat-wise, everything looks good. It looks gravy. I think we had a good year, but at the same time something didn't go right. That's the question that needs to be answered."
If you notice in the above response Vick says "I think WE had a good year" meaning the team & I would bet the stats he's referring to are the teams...his...Crumps...Dunn's...Norwood's...etcBut the reporter takes Vick's answer and spins it...

To him, his stats have been "gravy."
When Vick talks about his own stats he's pretty down about the results;

"Anytime you have over 3,000 yards of total offense in a season as a player, I think you should be in the winning bracket in the wins and loss column. You should have way more wins than you have losses."
So the reporter takes this and trys to bait Vick into throwing Knapp & the WR's under the bus, but Vick doesn't bite;Is offensive coordinator Greg Knapp putting Vick and the Falcons in a good position to win games?

"I don't know," said Vick. "I think so. I hope so. I can't say. I really can't say."
Is it the wide receivers?
"We've had a lot of dropped balls this year, but as a player I have to move on," said Vick. "I'm going to take the heat. I'm going to take the criticism for the losses." "I never went to the press and said this is what's going on," said Vick. "I just take all the heat."
Curses.

Vick doesn't take the bait & throw his OC & the WR's under the bus. In fact, Vick does the opposite and says he'll take the heat & criticism.

How can the reporter spin these answers negatively? Ah! Sarcasm is a reporters best friend when all else fails. The reporters response?

At least Vick doesn't complain to the media.
I'm not going to even bother with the rest, but this is bait & switch journalism at it's best. :lmao:
So Big Score, or any other Vick slurpers...Did Michael Vick have ANY bad games this year?
 

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