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Vick Ballard (1 Viewer)

'Holy Schneikes said:
I look at this as a little more evidence that Brown is underrated. All most folks seem to talk about is how much he sucks, but he has looked pretty good from what I've seen given what he has to work with. And now we've seen what his competition can do.
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Fair point. Brown hasn't gotten a ton of touches, so his stat line looks very modest. But sometimes stats don't tell the whole story.
 
'Holy Schneikes said:
I look at this as a little more evidence that Brown is underrated. All most folks seem to talk about is how much he sucks, but he has looked pretty good from what I've seen given what he has to work with. And now we've seen what his competition can do.
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I don't think Donald Brown would have done much in that game either, this was about game situation more than anything else. Brown didn't do much in the first 2 games of the year. In this game the Colts just didn't have the ball much as the Jets just kept running it down their throats. When the Colts did have the ball they were playing from behind most of the game and passed almost exclusively.
 
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'zamboni said:
'Holy Schneikes said:
I look at this as a little more evidence that Brown is underrated. All most folks seem to talk about is how much he sucks, but he has looked pretty good from what I've seen given what he has to work with. And now we've seen what his competition can do.
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Fair point. Brown hasn't gotten a ton of touches, so his stat line looks very modest. But sometimes stats don't tell the whole story.
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He scored in double digits 3 times out of 4, Chris Johnson would kill for that
 
The run game was screwed from the get-go in this game thanks to all of Luck's turnovers.

Turned the Colts into a complete one-dimensional offense with only 17 rushing plays to cover Luck's 44 pass attempts.

We didn't see anything out of Ballard in this game. He's still just as big of an unknown going into next week as he was going into this one.

Donald Brown would have had an equally poor effort.

I just hope this gamble doesn't cost me a win. Benched the uber-talented Spiller due to Ballard's matchup and it may just burn me.

 
'Lascelle said:
The run game was screwed from the get-go in this game thanks to all of Luck's turnovers.Turned the Colts into a complete one-dimensional offense with only 17 rushing plays to cover Luck's 44 pass attempts.We didn't see anything out of Ballard in this game. He's still just as big of an unknown going into next week as he was going into this one.Donald Brown would have had an equally poor effort.I just hope this gamble doesn't cost me a win. Benched the uber-talented Spiller due to Ballard's matchup and it may just burn me.
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Yuck. Ballard was a "break glass in case of emergency" play if I've ever seen one (and I used him in one such capacity). But with Spiller on your bench?
 
I lost with Ballard in and Spiller on my bench. Thankfully, even if with my optimal lineup, I would have lost anyway.

JCharles, SRidley and Ballard got me combined 17.3 points. Pretty pathetic for three runners.

 
I looked up his time in the 40. It's 4.65. That's pretty slow for an RB. I picked Ballard up in both my leagues. Started him in the flex over Malcom Floyd in one league and benched him in the other in favor of Denarius Moore.

I wonder how Ballard's gonna do against Cleveland next week. How about 14 carries for 60 yards and a touch? That's not asking too much is it?

 
'UnderDawgs said:
I lost with Ballard in and Spiller on my bench. Thankfully, even if with my optimal lineup, I would have lost anyway. JCharles, SRidley and Ballard got me combined 17.3 points. Pretty pathetic for three runners.
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I almost benched Ballard for Spiller too. Thankfully I decided to wait and see first. Been playing FF for a while and I usually have a "prove it to me first" approach before letting a player crack my lineup. But I can't take Ballard's week 6 stats seriously. The Colts were getting blown out by super stud Shon Greene by halftime. And they had to abandon the run. I expect week 7 at home vs Cleveland to be more competitive.
 
'Lascelle said:
Donald Brown would have had an equally poor effort.
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Two people have now said this with really no basis for doing so.Brown's speed may ahve allowed him to bounce outside and run past two of the slower inside LBers in the league in Scott and Harris. I don't know if Brown would have had a big day or not, but as a Jets fan I'm glad we didn't get the chance to see it.
 
'ChummyShark said:
I looked up his time in the 40. It's 4.65. That's pretty slow for an RB. I picked Ballard up in both my leagues. Started him in the flex over Malcom Floyd in one league and benched him in the other in favor of Denarius Moore.I wonder how Ballard's gonna do against Cleveland next week. How about 14 carries for 60 yards and a touch? That's not asking too much is it?
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Actually Ballard was pretty famous for falling during his first 40 attempt and on his second attempt finished with a 4.65. A month after the NFL combine attempt Ballard was timed twice during Mississippi State's pro day in front of scouts and he ran a 4.55 & 4.53. Donald Brown's official time was 4.51 although there also is some speculation that he may have run in the mid 4.4's in front of some scouts.
 
I started Ballard over Shonn Greene, Ouch. Overthinking...

I'm done with Ballard, just hoping Brown comes back and is the RB2 he looked he was on the verge of becoming.

 
Brown isn't great but he is vastly undervalued. Ballard needs more time to figure it out, there is a reason he was a late round pick. David Wilson is still trying to get it and he was a first rounder, it took C.J. Spiller almost 2 years to figure it out. I think Ballard is the guy to own in dynasty, Brown is the guy to own in redraft.

 
Ballard had himself a quiet but decent week. It was a Donald Brown like performance really and he iced the game late with a 26 yard run.

If Brown misses one more week BAllard may still have some value.

 
Ballrd is what he is . A plodder who can get 20-90 . He is a good bye week fill in and or flex. He did his job yesterday getting 1o pts for his owners. not bad.

 
At the expense of playing the hated "take away that one run..." game, Ballard really wasn't doing much before that 26 yard run at the end.

I still think it's Brown's job when he returns, but Ballard may, if nothing else, have carved out a role in the backfield.

 
Can Ballard be like a Alfred Morris?

Alfred Morris is slow, runs like a 4.67 40-yard dash.

If Ballard can get some holes, why can't he do what Alfred is doing?

P.S. I really want Ballard to do well! I scooped him up off waivers, and I hope he takes the starting RB job along with 15-20 touches/game with a touchdown every 2 games.

 
'ChummyShark said:
Can Ballard be like a Alfred Morris? Alfred Morris is slow, runs like a 4.67 40-yard dash.If Ballard can get some holes, why can't he do what Alfred is doing?P.S. I really want Ballard to do well! I scooped him up off waivers, and I hope he takes the starting RB job along with 15-20 touches/game with a touchdown every 2 games.
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lolDo you realize that Ballard "best scenario" is sharing carries with Brown and "worst scenario" being back on the bench in two weeks ?
 
'ChummyShark said:
Can Ballard be like a Alfred Morris? Alfred Morris is slow, runs like a 4.67 40-yard dash.If Ballard can get some holes, why can't he do what Alfred is doing?P.S. I really want Ballard to do well! I scooped him up off waivers, and I hope he takes the starting RB job along with 15-20 touches/game with a touchdown every 2 games.
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I really want peace on earth and harmony amongst all peoples of the world.
 
Do you realize that Ballard "best scenario" is sharing carries with Brown and "worst scenario" being back on the bench in two weeks ?

This is most definitely not the best scenario. The "Best Scenario" is Vick Ballard running for 100+ yards and a TD in week 8 along with 3-4 catches for 30-50 yards, and pass protecting Luck with a coach's grade of A.

Coach is so impressed with Ballard's contribution to an important divisional victory that Ballard is given provisional starter status and Donald Brown is relegated to Felix Jones backup status.

Ballard continues to grow in confidence and performance and the coach's slap themselves silly for obtaining such amazing talent in the 5th round.

Now that! is the best scenario.

 
'ChummyShark said:
Can Ballard be like a Alfred Morris? Alfred Morris is slow, runs like a 4.67 40-yard dash.If Ballard can get some holes, why can't he do what Alfred is doing?
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It isn't all about holes. Morris has shown ability to break tackles with good power and make defenders miss with above average, though not exceptional, elusiveness. Ballard hasn't looked nearly as good.
 
Anyone else thinking that Ballard might be a good play this week? Against a bad Tennessee defense, I don't think that 100+ total yards and a touchdown is out of the question.

Fopr anyone who has watched Indy games since Ballard has been starting, is he on the field in the goal line packages?

 
He should be able to rack up yards this week vs Tennessee. Luck can't get all rushing TDs, can he?

If Brown is active, all this goes out the window.

 
Brown practicing again, is he just a bump in the line for Ballard Express or does Brown likely reclaim the lead role?

 
'JuniorNB said:
Anyone else thinking that Ballard might be a good play this week? Against a bad Tennessee defense, I don't think that 100+ total yards and a touchdown is out of the question. Fopr anyone who has watched Indy games since Ballard has been starting, is he on the field in the goal line packages?
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There is talk that Brown may play too and is recovering well. I wouldn't start Ballard unless he were my only option.
 
'az_prof said:
'JuniorNB said:
Anyone else thinking that Ballard might be a good play this week? Against a bad Tennessee defense, I don't think that 100+ total yards and a touchdown is out of the question. Fopr anyone who has watched Indy games since Ballard has been starting, is he on the field in the goal line packages?
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There is talk that Brown may play too and is recovering well. I wouldn't start Ballard unless he were my only option.
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If Brown is active, Ballard's valur drops immensely. Something to keep an eye on.
 
If Brown is active this week, he'll likely start but play limited series, rendering both RBs useless for FF. I do fully expect Brown to reclaim his role in Week 9.

 
One thing I like about Ballard is he's seems really strong in the passing game. Could see him carving out a nice FF RB3 role spelling Brown + 3rd down stuff even if he doesn't win the starting job outright.

 
'wdcrob said:
One thing I like about Ballard is he's seems really strong in the passing game. Could see him carving out a nice FF RB3 role spelling Brown + 3rd down stuff even if he doesn't win the starting job outright.
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Interesting. I think Ballard is now worth a roster spot."News: The Colts released running back Mewelde Moore on Monday. Moore gained 14 yards on nine carries this season and also caught four passes for 36 yards and a touchdown"
 
'wdcrob said:
One thing I like about Ballard is he's seems really strong in the passing game. Could see him carving out a nice FF RB3 role spelling Brown + 3rd down stuff even if he doesn't win the starting job outright.
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How many overtime 16 yard Fosbury Flop TDs do you think he is going to score this year?
 
He is going to be a good professional back because he is a no nonsense hard worker and hard runner who will only get better.

I actually think he may end up being a Fred Jackson/Pierre Thomas type back. Nothing flashy but good in all elements of the game. I think he has carved out a role for himself and that is evident by Moore's release. Brown will be the starter but it probably will end up being about a 60-40 split.

 
I think Pierre Thomas is a great comp. Dead on.

I think Fred Jackson is criminally underrated because he was unknown in college and played in another league for a few years before he got to the NFL. If he'd been a highly rated prospect that's performed like he has in the NFL he'd be considered one of the best backs in the league.

 
Watched the game on Game Rewind. Brown looked like the better runner, even between the tackles, which is where he made most of his yards. It was like the scope cleaned out old damage. He looked quick. But it depends who the coaches want to roll with as their feature back, of course.

*Brown owner, so I'm biased.

 
'rockaction said:
Watched the game on Game Rewind. Brown looked like the better runner, even between the tackles, which is where he made most of his yards. It was like the scope cleaned out old damage. He looked quick. But it depends who the coaches want to roll with as their feature back, of course. *Brown owner, so I'm biased.
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I am a Brown owner too and contemplating if this is even worth the headache. If each guy is getting 10-12 touches a game it makes either tough to roster.
 
'johnnyboy8102 said:
'rockaction said:
Watched the game on Game Rewind. Brown looked like the better runner, even between the tackles, which is where he made most of his yards. It was like the scope cleaned out old damage. He looked quick. But it depends who the coaches want to roll with as their feature back, of course. *Brown owner, so I'm biased.
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I am a Brown owner too and contemplating if this is even worth the headache. If each guy is getting 10-12 touches a game it makes either tough to roster.
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I need to hold him and hope he contributes in a 16-team league with a bunch of bench spots. Drafted him too highly and too thin at RB not to.
 
Is it better to keep Ballard on the roster or Robert Turbin?

Ballard's in a time share with Brown, and the goal line rushes go to Delone Carter.

Robert Turbin is just the pure handcuff to Marshawn Lynch. But if Marshawn Lynch goes down, Robert Turbin gets 20-25 carries + 2-4 receptions per game.

I'm leaning towards cutting Vick Ballard and keeping Turbin. (Need to get bye-week replacement for my kicker and defense in Week 9).

Or should I keep Ballard and cut Turbin?

 
'rockaction said:
Watched the game on Game Rewind. Brown looked like the better runner, even between the tackles, which is where he made most of his yards. It was like the scope cleaned out old damage. He looked quick. But it depends who the coaches want to roll with as their feature back, of course. *Brown owner, so I'm biased.
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Ya know what's odd, I think Brown looked the best he had all season too. I think we may just have to chalk this up to TEN making everyone look good but I was legit impressed with him. I think his performance, and the way he came 4 yards shy of his season high with barely three quarters of play under his belt was overshadowed by Ballard's OT GL leap. IMO this will be more of a 60/40 split in Brown's favor with Ballard seeing 3rd down work with the release of Moore. This will also likely relegate them both to low-end flex plays although there are some plus match ups down the road in JAC, BUF, TEN and KC.
 
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