Vick could get early release (1 Viewer)

[Ed Wood]

Sorry, if a Honda. Searched "Vick" today in heds and got nothing. Think story just broke.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txfa...t&type=lgns

January 6, 2008

SUNNYVALE, California (Ticker) - Michael Vick may spend less time in prison than expected.

According to a report on Yahoo! Sports, Vick applied to join prison-monitored drug rehabilitation program in Leavenworth, Kansas and has apparently been moved to the facility.

The program runs for 12 months and Vick could be released at its conclusion, although it is not known when he might begin the program.

On December 10, Vick, 27, was sentenced to 23 months for his role in a dogfighting operation run from a property in Surry County, Virginia.

Vick's three co-defendants all received lighter sentences than Vick, partly because the Atlanta Falcons quarterback had failed a drug test for marijuana after pleading guilty to the dogfighting charges.

According to the Yahoo! report, Vick will be held in a minimum security wing at Leavenworth.

If Vick indeed serves a significantly reduced sentence, it could open the door for him to return to the NFL by 2009, assuming the league chooses not to impose its own suspension beyond the length of his prison time.

Updated on Sunday, Jan 6, 2008 9:42 am, EST

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[mad sweeney]

Why would a drug rehab program garner an early release for somone not sentenced for a drug related crime?

 

[redman]

Why would a drug rehab program garner an early release for somone not sentenced for a drug related crime?

 

[[scooter]]

I thought you couldn't get early release from federal prison?

 

[Da Guru]

Sorry, if a Honda. Searched "Vick" today in heds and got nothing. Think story just broke.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txfa...t&type=lgns

January 6, 2008

SUNNYVALE, California (Ticker) - Michael Vick may spend less time in prison than expected.

According to a report on Yahoo! Sports, Vick applied to join prison-monitored drug rehabilitation program in Leavenworth, Kansas and has apparently been moved to the facility.

The program runs for 12 months and Vick could be released at its conclusion, although it is not known when he might begin the program.

On December 10, Vick, 27, was sentenced to 23 months for his role in a dogfighting operation run from a property in Surry County, Virginia.

Vick's three co-defendants all received lighter sentences than Vick, partly because the Atlanta Falcons quarterback had failed a drug test for marijuana after pleading guilty to the dogfighting charges.

According to the Yahoo! report, Vick will be held in a minimum security wing at Leavenworth.

If Vick indeed serves a significantly reduced sentence, it could open the door for him to return to the NFL by 2009, assuming the league chooses not to impose its own suspension beyond the length of his prison time.

Updated on Sunday, Jan 6, 2008 9:42 am, EST

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What about the drug issue?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Why would a drug rehab program garner an early release for somone not sentenced for a drug related crime?

I don't get it at all. They give him 23 months for dog fighting and the guy is going to go to a drud program and get out in 12 months, I don't get it.He may be ready for the 2009 season.

 

[Big_Russ]

Why would a drug rehab program garner an early release for somone not sentenced for a drug related crime?

I think the judge said that he took the drug issue into consideration during sentencing. Coming up positive probably violated the terms of his bond, causing the Judge to add more time to the prison term than he would have. The rehab agreement may well have been agreed on at the time of sentencing (just not reported on).

 

[mad sweeney]

Why would a drug rehab program garner an early release for somone not sentenced for a drug related crime?

I think the judge said that he took the drug issue into consideration during sentencing. Coming up positive probably violated the terms of his bond, causing the Judge to add more time to the prison term than he would have. The rehab agreement may well have been agreed on at the time of sentencing (just not reported on).

I doubt that's the case. He was going to get more time than his flunkies that rolled on him and they got 19 months. Maybe the maryjane added a month or two but the sentencing guidelines called for up to 5 years. And drugs were not a part of the crime or charges. It didn't help him at all, but I doubt coming up positive for herb would add 6 months to a federal sentence.

 

[Couch Potato]

Why would a drug rehab program garner an early release for somone not sentenced for a drug related crime?

Good question. My understanding was that the had a longer sentence than his co-defendants because he financed the operation, not because he smoked some pot as the article states.

 

[Big_Russ]

I doubt that's the case. He was going to get more time than his flunkies that rolled on him and they got 19 months. Maybe the maryjane added a month or two but the sentencing guidelines called for up to 5 years. And drugs were not a part of the crime or charges. It didn't help him at all, but I doubt coming up positive for herb would add 6 months to a federal sentence.

Yeah, but you have to consider the criminal history of his co-defendants. Having no prior offenses, it is very likely that Vicks sentence was not going to be significantly more than the other guys involved. Like I said above, drugs may not have been part of the charges, but violating the terms of his bond (by coming up positive for smoke) would almost definitely have affected the sentencing. That time could very well have come with a rehab stipulation. IE; complete this program, and we will erase "X" amount of time off of the sentence.

 

[mad sweeney]

I doubt that's the case. He was going to get more time than his flunkies that rolled on him and they got 19 months. Maybe the maryjane added a month or two but the sentencing guidelines called for up to 5 years. And drugs were not a part of the crime or charges. It didn't help him at all, but I doubt coming up positive for herb would add 6 months to a federal sentence.

Yeah, but you have to consider the criminal history of his co-defendants. Having no prior offenses, it is very likely that Vicks sentence was not going to be significantly more than the other guys involved. Like I said above, drugs may not have been part of the charges, but violating the terms of his bond (by coming up positive for smoke) would almost definitely have affected the sentencing. That time could very well have come with a rehab stipulation. IE; complete this program, and we will erase "X" amount of time off of the sentence.

He was the money man behind the whole thing, he was the boss of all these criminals. He was going to get more than a month more than his flunkies. Coming up positive is a pittance compared to the charges he was facing. It had some, but not much affect on his sentence, maybe an extra month. And certainly not enough to erase 10-12 months of jailtime by rehabbing. And who needs to rehab from weed anyways? You don't commit a bunch of crimes, then fail a drug test while awaiting sentencing and use that as a bargaining chip to reduce your sentence. It had nothing to do with the crime at all and had minimal effect on his sentencing.

 

[Big_Russ]

He was the money man behind the whole thing, he was the boss of all these criminals.

You make it sound like the guy was Don Corleone running some kind of criminal empire. It was nothing more than a bunch of back wood thugs, fighting and gambling on some Pit bulls. Maybe his sentence was a lot harsher than that of his flunkies (for the actual fighting of the dogs), but once their previous criminal records came into play it lead to more time being tacked on (remember they all had priors). Say for instance they all got 12 months for the dog fighting; giving their prior records (probations etc.) it could have easily added 9 months to their sentence(s).

It had nothing to do with the crime at all and had minimal effect on his sentencing.

Obviously (if the article is accurate) it had more of an effect than you think.

 

[identikit]

Looks like that was the smartest doobie he ever lit up...

Id

 

[mad sweeney]

He was the money man behind the whole thing, he was the boss of all these criminals.

You make it sound like the guy was Don Corleone running some kind of criminal empire. It was nothing more than a bunch of back wood thugs, fighting and gambling on some Pit bulls. Maybe his sentence was a lot harsher than that of his flunkies (for the actual fighting of the dogs), but once their previous criminal records came into play it lead to more time being tacked on (remember they all had priors). Say for instance they all got 12 months for the dog fighting; giving their prior records (probations etc.) it could have easily added 9 months to their sentence(s).

It had nothing to do with the crime at all and had minimal effect on his sentencing.

Obviously (if the article is accurate) it had more of an effect than you think.

He was. He ran a criminal enterprise that engaged in illegal activities across several state lines that involved illegal gambling and the resultant tax evasions. It wasn't 1930's Chicago, it wasn't even a big one, but it was a criminal enterprise.I also don't think that the statement about the marijuana implies how much it had to do with it. It uses the word partly. It isn't very descriptive and glosses over the sentencing and charges. You can't really take much from that statement, certainly not as much as you want to .

And Vick, as the head of the evterprise, was going to get more time than the guys below him. Regardless of why they got how much time they got. Vick was not going to get sentenced toless than them. Mike was the big fish on this and was going down harder than anyone else, period.

 

[FavreCo]

Why would a drug rehab program garner an early release for somone not sentenced for a drug related crime?

I don't get it at all. They give him 23 months for dog fighting and the guy is going to go to a drud program and get out in 12 months, I don't get it.He may be ready for the 2009 season.

Ready to do what? Ruin more WRs?

 

[meanjoegreen]

Why would a drug rehab program garner an early release for somone not sentenced for a drug related crime?

I guess his lawyers think since he tested positive for marijuana use, they can use that as "he has a drug problem". If I were the judge and had the power, I would deny having him sent to that federal drug drug treatment program in Kansas. I think that place should be for drug offenders which Vick is not. Vick's charges have nothing to do with him testing positive for marijuana, or even drugs in general. Pathetic.

 

[BigJim®]

I find this very hard to believe.

 

[Courtjester]

I think this is a very realistic (and smart) option for Vick. He had the positive test pending sentencing. He had the water bottle incident prior. And not anyone here on this board has seen the pre-sentencing investigation report that I am sure was prepared on him prior to the judge handing down the sentence. Those reports are typically sealed by the court. No one knows what he reported as to his drug use history.

This happens all the time in sentencing in criminal cases. People get trustee status or enter community based rehab programs in exchange for reductions of sentence. I can't speak with 100% certainty as to Federal sentencing, so maybe someone can enlighten me there, but remember a criminal sentence in and of itself is designed to be punitive, but also is structured to allow rehab of the individual.

I would still bet that, even if he does get his sentence reduced, the NFL sits him until 2010 at the earliest. But what do I know??

 

[Big_Russ]

This happens all the time in sentencing in criminal cases. People get trustee status or enter community based rehab programs in exchange for reductions of sentence. I can't speak with 100% certainty as to Federal sentencing, so maybe someone can enlighten me there, but remember a criminal sentence in and of itself is designed to be punitive, but also is structured to allow rehab of the individual. I would still bet that, even if he does get his sentence reduced, the NFL sits him until 2010 at the earliest. But what do I know??

This is exactly what a top dollar legal team does for you.

 

[cstu]

Good news.

 

[bcr8f]

I thought you couldn't get early release from federal prison?

You can but good time is minor. I heard in his case it would be 3 months. In most states it's 20% of the sentence. As far as early release I doubt it because that judge took a hard line. They aren't about to go around him.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

Sorry, if a Honda. Searched "Vick" today in heds and got nothing. Think story just broke.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txfa...t&type=lgns

January 6, 2008

SUNNYVALE, California (Ticker) - Michael Vick may spend less time in prison than expected.

According to a report on Yahoo! Sports, Vick applied to join prison-monitored drug rehabilitation program in Leavenworth, Kansas and has apparently been moved to the facility.

The program runs for 12 months and Vick could be released at its conclusion, although it is not known when he might begin the program.

On December 10, Vick, 27, was sentenced to 23 months for his role in a dogfighting operation run from a property in Surry County, Virginia.

Vick's three co-defendants all received lighter sentences than Vick, partly because the Atlanta Falcons quarterback had failed a drug test for marijuana after pleading guilty to the dogfighting charges.

According to the Yahoo! report, Vick will be held in a minimum security wing at Leavenworth.

If Vick indeed serves a significantly reduced sentence, it could open the door for him to return to the NFL by 2009, assuming the league chooses not to impose its own suspension beyond the length of his prison time.

Updated on Sunday, Jan 6, 2008 9:42 am, EST

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Vick will be walking the streets in 6 months.

 

[bcr8f]

The program runs for 12 months and Vick could be released at its conclusion, although it is not known when he might begin the program.

He would be released from there but where does it say he'll be released from federal custody? He'll be sent somewhere else. Yahoo is mis-reading this.

 

[Cunk]

If I was Vick I would study the bible and use this time in prison just for that. He could come back a priest if he wanted to. He may be rusty but he probably could get his God on pretty quick.

 

[Bri]

If I was Vick I would work out like a demon and use this time in prison just for that. He could come bad a beast if he wanted to. He may be rusty but he probably could get his for back pretty quick.

 

[Big_Russ]

If I was Vick I would work out like a demon and use this time in prison just for that. He could come bad a beast if he wanted to. He may be rusty but he probably could get his for back pretty quick.

You cant be serious.

 

[Cunk]

If I was Vick I would work out like a demon and use this time in prison just for that. He could come bad a beast if he wanted to. He may be rusty but he probably could get his for back pretty quick.

You cant be serious.

You're correct. I fixed my comment.

 

[[scooter]]

Vick will be walking the streets in 6 months.

I don't think this is possible.

 

[Bri]

If I was Vick I would work out like a demon and use this time in prison just for that. He could come bad a beast if he wanted to. He may be rusty but he probably could get his for back pretty quick.

You cant be serious.

You're correct. I fixed my comment.

 

[Phurfur]

The program runs for 12 months and Vick could be released at its conclusion, although it is not known when he might begin the program.He would be released from there but where does it say he'll be released from federal custody? He'll be sent somewhere else. Yahoo is mis-reading this.

I think so too, I would be shocked if he didn't serve at least 18 months.