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Vick in Dynasty Leagues (1 Viewer)
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Anthony Borbely
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Cowtippers
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Took over a dynasty team a few months ago with Vick on the roster. I dropped him last week and added Jason Snelling off the waiver wire to take his roster spot. My first thoughts were to ride out the storm.......but it's looking worse everyday. Probably 1 year in jail followed by another year suspended from the league. No thanks....I'll use the roster spot for another player.
King of the Wolfies
Footballguy
Ding dong the Vick is dead................. 
Tick
Footballguy
Which "you" are you talking about? Of my three dynasty leagues, I'd bet 30 of the other 35 owners are on FBG. Are you talking to me or one of them?
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I owned Vick in one league last year (inherited him - orphaned team). When news became clear enough to me that he was involved, but still a lot of folks were holding out hope he'd wiggle out of responsibility for anything, I offered him in an email to the league to the highest bidder. I did get 3 offers, and the best was Muhsin Muhammad. A week or two later I swapped Muhsin for Leftwich. So, Vick has become Leftwich. We'll see how that works out. It beats nothing... I hope.
Had no one offered anything, I would have released him that week and said so on this board before the trade.
Had no one offered anything, I would have released him that week and said so on this board before the trade.
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The Shizzle
Footballguy
I want to know his sentence, but it makes me ill knowing that he is on my roster.
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith
Footballguy
I dropped him in one dynasty league, and have seen him dropped in two others. I don't care about the moral issues--I don't mind winning with BAL DEF, for example. I don't see how you can justify wasting a roster spot on the guy for two years in the hopes that he beats the odds and returns to a mid-range QB1. Frankly, somebody like J.P. Losman has a lot more upside.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
i got him in 5 and im HOLDIN,
i recently traded a 4th rounder for him to sit behind Brees and Schaub.
I just drafted him in my other dynasty too high to cut him.
Kinda like having Barry Sanders long time ago. People held him on there roster 3 years after he quit hoping he would come back and be elite again. Same approach im doing with Vick, yeah i know his value is SHOT, but its also in the beholder. No way would i cut him ONLY to have someone with a rebuilding team or roster spae to pick him up and IR him. This guy was a top 6 qb in my dynasty year in and out.
Will he come back, i REALLY do believe so...WHEN? is anyones guess.
I traded a 4th and M.Hicks (a cut guy to make room for Vick) for Vick and seeing where i had extra picks in the top 3 rounds why not?
this one of the teams with him on it.
Brees, Drew NOS QB
Schaub, Matt HOU QB
Vick, Michael ATL QB
Brown, Chris TEN RB
Calhoun, Brian DET RB
Green, Ahman HOU RB
Henry, Chris TEN RB
Henry, Travis DEN RB
McAllister, Deuce NOS RB
Pittman, Michael TBB RB
Watson, Kenny CIN RB
Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB
Baskett, Hank PHI WR
Battle, Arnaz SFO WR
Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR
Colston, Marques NOS WR
Davis, Craig SDC WR
Driver, Donald GBP WR
Johnson, Calvin DET WR
Jones, Jacoby HOU WR
Williams, Roydell TEN WR
Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE
Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE
Kaeding, Nate SDC PK
Chargers, San Diego SDC Def
Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def
He's worth it to me as a QB3 bench dead roster guy. I only wish others would drop him in my leagues. I would be all over him for some scrub.
what could i pick up??? Trent Edwards? A Feeley? L.Moore, K.mccardell. Dillon, ABryany RICKY WILLIAMS (ump, he was held even during his suspension)
OK I can understand the HATE for the guy...there's a cost for everything you do in life and people have to understand that. My father is in a fed prison for making a mistake after not being in trouble his whole life. He always try and appologize to me like he failed me. I told him life isnt easy, some like to think that, but we all make mistakes, and i told him im not mad at him, just do better and try live life right. Same thing goes with Vick IMO. He f'd up, he has to pay the consequence. Which he will, and IMO he will be given a 2nd chance. This isnt David Carr we talking about here, this IMO one of the top 2 talented players in the whole NFL.
But hey, people HAVE THE RIGHT TO THERE OWN OPNIONS. Some thinks he is TRASH and want nothing to do with him....well cut him. Thats fine by all means.....Others see past this. Kerry Collins, Ray Lewis, Jamal Lewis and numerous other have made mistakes....NONE OF THEM are the talents of Vick...maybe Ray but even he got back in the league.
i recently traded a 4th rounder for him to sit behind Brees and Schaub.
I just drafted him in my other dynasty too high to cut him.
Kinda like having Barry Sanders long time ago. People held him on there roster 3 years after he quit hoping he would come back and be elite again. Same approach im doing with Vick, yeah i know his value is SHOT, but its also in the beholder. No way would i cut him ONLY to have someone with a rebuilding team or roster spae to pick him up and IR him. This guy was a top 6 qb in my dynasty year in and out.
Will he come back, i REALLY do believe so...WHEN? is anyones guess.
I traded a 4th and M.Hicks (a cut guy to make room for Vick) for Vick and seeing where i had extra picks in the top 3 rounds why not?
this one of the teams with him on it.
Brees, Drew NOS QB
Schaub, Matt HOU QB
Vick, Michael ATL QB
Brown, Chris TEN RB
Calhoun, Brian DET RB
Green, Ahman HOU RB
Henry, Chris TEN RB
Henry, Travis DEN RB
McAllister, Deuce NOS RB
Pittman, Michael TBB RB
Watson, Kenny CIN RB
Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB
Baskett, Hank PHI WR
Battle, Arnaz SFO WR
Bowe, Dwayne KCC WR
Colston, Marques NOS WR
Davis, Craig SDC WR
Driver, Donald GBP WR
Johnson, Calvin DET WR
Jones, Jacoby HOU WR
Williams, Roydell TEN WR
Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE
Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE
Kaeding, Nate SDC PK
Chargers, San Diego SDC Def
Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def
He's worth it to me as a QB3 bench dead roster guy. I only wish others would drop him in my leagues. I would be all over him for some scrub.
what could i pick up??? Trent Edwards? A Feeley? L.Moore, K.mccardell. Dillon, ABryany RICKY WILLIAMS (ump, he was held even during his suspension)
OK I can understand the HATE for the guy...there's a cost for everything you do in life and people have to understand that. My father is in a fed prison for making a mistake after not being in trouble his whole life. He always try and appologize to me like he failed me. I told him life isnt easy, some like to think that, but we all make mistakes, and i told him im not mad at him, just do better and try live life right. Same thing goes with Vick IMO. He f'd up, he has to pay the consequence. Which he will, and IMO he will be given a 2nd chance. This isnt David Carr we talking about here, this IMO one of the top 2 talented players in the whole NFL.
But hey, people HAVE THE RIGHT TO THERE OWN OPNIONS. Some thinks he is TRASH and want nothing to do with him....well cut him. Thats fine by all means.....Others see past this. Kerry Collins, Ray Lewis, Jamal Lewis and numerous other have made mistakes....NONE OF THEM are the talents of Vick...maybe Ray but even he got back in the league.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
Ok i will say, i always been scared of dogs period, but this STORY here, is what i dont like pitbulls and consider them even with lions and tigers. They very scary.
http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=49447
http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=49447
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
If your league hordes QBs, I would hold him. Also in an IDP league where there are tons of roster spots he is a "hold".
In a 12 team, 25 man roster or less, bye.
Somewhere between 300 and 400 roster spots is the transition point.
Also about 40-50 QBs rostered. At 50, keep. At 40, probably cut.
In a 12 team, 25 man roster or less, bye.
Somewhere between 300 and 400 roster spots is the transition point.
Also about 40-50 QBs rostered. At 50, keep. At 40, probably cut.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Logic tells me that since Atlanta isn't dropping him immediately then they must know something the public doesn't. I'm holding him since he is my backup to Brees in one league and I have T. Jackson as my #3 in one dynasty. Hopefully Jackson will last at least until after week 4 when Brees has a bye (the Holcombe signing make me wonder). I guess I'm in the minority that thinks Vick will never play again. The league hasn't suspended him for good yet, and Atlanta hasn't cut him. I don't think you can say he'll never play again. I'm waiting a year. After the sentencing we'll really know the deal. He still holds too much value to just drop him now under the circumstances.cobalt_27 said:Why is this so hard for people to understand?
in my 12 team 20roster spot, dynasty league.
Couch Potato
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Owner Blank said they won't cut Vick right away because of salary cap issues, not because they ever plan to bring him back. I won't dig up the link for you, but it's out there if you want to look.Logic tells me that since Atlanta isn't dropping him immediately then they must know something the public doesn't. I'm holding him since he is my backup to Brees in one league and I have T. Jackson as my #3 in one dynasty. Hopefully Jackson will last at least until after week 4 when Brees has a bye (the Holcombe signing make me wonder). I guess I'm in the minority that thinks Vick will never play again. The league hasn't suspended him for good yet, and Atlanta hasn't cut him. I don't think you can say he'll never play again. I'm waiting a year. After the sentencing we'll really know the deal. He still holds too much value to just drop him now under the circumstances.cobalt_27 said:Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Ron_Mexico
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Double Live Gonzo.
TheFanatic
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I've got him in a dynasty/contract/salary cap league. I've got him for this year and next year and will be responsible for his salary for both even if I cut him. If I need his roster spot I may IR him this year to snag someone from the WW then re-evaluate next year. You never know, he may roll over on some other dog fighting heavyweights and only spend a few months in Jail and then a year or so suspension. If he can come back in 2009 I can have him at the league minimum that year.
I realize the likelihood of all this is remote, but I have to pay him the next two years no matter what so it behooves me to take a wait and see on this....
I realize the likelihood of all this is remote, but I have to pay him the next two years no matter what so it behooves me to take a wait and see on this....
Pocket Joker
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Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Of the 7 dynasty leagues I'm in he's still on 4 rosters.
Andy Herron
Footballguy
What's the point?
Vick never "was" and certainly never will be.
Vick never "was" and certainly never will be.
Reginald Cornsilks
Footballguy
Whole lot of crow to be eaten in here.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
I guess, but keep in mind teams would have had to carry him for 2-3 years.Whole lot of crow to be eaten in here.
Reginald Cornsilks
Footballguy
Very true - was just curious what the pre-jail term Vick threads had looked like in comparison to everything currently after his great season.I guess, but keep in mind teams would have had to carry him for 2-3 years.Whole lot of crow to be eaten in here.
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redBourne
Footballguy
There wasn't a specific enough option for me to reply. I think he has several good years left, ones that will be highly advantageous for whoever owns him. However, his skills and body will decline rapidly after 3 years (just an opinion) as does everyone who starts to age. What's the mantra about RB's and age 30? I think being a QB who doesn't take as many hits will bye him some time, but just like every other runner, the physical skill set declines. Pocket QB's can last longer just because of their ability to read defenses and stay somewhat immobile.
I would use him for another year, which I suspect will be rather good, but look for a replacement and start to gather offers for his trade value.
I would use him for another year, which I suspect will be rather good, but look for a replacement and start to gather offers for his trade value.
Check the start date for this thread...
redBourne
Footballguy
I always fail to do so...thanks
