eh, mora tried to make vick into a west coast passer. they woulda been better off letting him do him. oh ya, and he proly woulda fine if he had better wr than crumpler and jenkins lolz.
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Vick the Best Player in the NFL? (1 Viewer)
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pizzatyme
Footballguy
Vick had accuracy issues in ATL. He is a much more composed QB today. You can see his maturity in the pocket. He looks down field 80%+ of the time in scrambling situations today where he would have just run it in years past.
The TD to Macklin in the enzone is a perfect example of his maturation in the pocket.
The TD to Macklin in the enzone is a perfect example of his maturation in the pocket.
chinawildman
Footballguy
Vick 2010 = Cunningham 1998?
I don't think anyone expected Cunningham to be THAT good that year. Like Vick he was out of football for a season+ before joining his new team. Like Vick he played sparingly in his first year on the team. Like Vick he had a dangerous downfield threat in Moss (jackson). Like Vick he had a reputation as a running QB.
Granted Randall had a few good passing seasons with the eagles years before he went to minnesota, but the point is many people had written him off. Sure Vick may not be the "best" NFL player, but do not underestimate his ability to do something special this season. It's been done before.
I don't think anyone expected Cunningham to be THAT good that year. Like Vick he was out of football for a season+ before joining his new team. Like Vick he played sparingly in his first year on the team. Like Vick he had a dangerous downfield threat in Moss (jackson). Like Vick he had a reputation as a running QB.
Granted Randall had a few good passing seasons with the eagles years before he went to minnesota, but the point is many people had written him off. Sure Vick may not be the "best" NFL player, but do not underestimate his ability to do something special this season. It's been done before.
The franchise quarterback just had suffered the most crushing defeat of his career, and he needed to get away from it all. So the peeved passer headed to the backwoods of Mississippi, where he cleared his head by killing a defenseless animal.Sorry, PETA, but the gun-toting quarterback in question was not Michael Vick. In fact, it was Peyton Manning, whose aim with a hunting rifle apparently is as true as it is with the ol' pigskin.Maybe Peyton Manning should go out and kill some helpless animals, then he could be as good as Michael Vick.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-morningrush081307
And Brady played the Bills yesterday. The best defense Peyton has faced is the Denver Broncos. Real impressive. Rivers? Less impressive against the Jags than Vick was.That's cool though, you take Joe Flacco.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Wilbon likes to say outlandish things. Yesterday he suggested the Steelers, should they go 4-0, keep Roethlishberger on the bench in favor of Charlie Batch.
If you guys come back after your time off, don't flippantly call people racist and don't call each other idiots.JAverage? Please. He was a very good defensive coach. And if any coach with Manning can win a ring, why is Dungy the only to do it?RACIST? You're an idiot. When did Dungy say anything about what Vick did to the dogs, when he commented on how Vick played? He didn't. Vick did horrible things, but that doesn't mean that whoever acknowledges what he does on the football field is condoning those things. Nor does it make them racist (idiot).And P.S. Tony Dungy is a total fraud for endorsing Vick while criticizing Rex Ryan. I guess in his world, torturing defenseless animals is fine but F-bombs should be condemned.
I loathe Dungy....still think he was one of the most overrated Coaches in the game....pretty much any Coach with Manning under center can/will win a SB...Dungy was very average before Manning saved his Coaching career.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
He has 5 TDs at halftime. Pretty sure he's the best QB in the NFC right now.
az_prof
Footballguy
I was one of the people who said this past year that he had talent and could be a good passer as well as runner. But...don't get carried away. Drew Brees is still pretty good and I for one wouldn't trade him for Vick. There is also Aaron Rodgers.One game and a few games do not make a season or a career.
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CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
Tony Dungy has been called a racist for years, this is not new.If you guys come back after your time off, don't flippantly call people racist and don't call each other idiots.JAverage? Please. He was a very good defensive coach. And if any coach with Manning can win a ring, why is Dungy the only to do it?RACIST? You're an idiot. When did Dungy say anything about what Vick did to the dogs, when he commented on how Vick played? He didn't. Vick did horrible things, but that doesn't mean that whoever acknowledges what he does on the football field is condoning those things. Nor does it make them racist (idiot).And P.S. Tony Dungy is a total fraud for endorsing Vick while criticizing Rex Ryan. I guess in his world, torturing defenseless animals is fine but F-bombs should be condemned.
Jambi
Footballguy
The guy was in the can. He stayed in shape, got out and is playing better than anyone in the game. He's kind of killing McCoy's value. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Whoever the luckbox was who grabbed Vick in the 23rd round of their start-up dynasty is cashing in.
47 points at the half...decent.
47 points at the half...decent.
FarEastKilla
Footballguy
You must mean in NFL history
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Maybe, but through 11 weeks Vick is clearly the most successful and productive QB in the NFC:Vick: 278 total yards per game (221 passing/57 rushing), 2.5 TDs (1.8 passing/0.7 rushing), 0 INTs, 0 fumbles lost, 114.5 passer rating (highest in NFL), .800 winning percentage
Brees: 287 yards, 2.0 TDs, 1.3 INTs, .667 winning percentage
Rodgers: 275 yards, 2.0 TDs, 1.0 INTs, .667 winning percentage
Manning: 275 yards, 2.3 TDs, 0.3 INTs, .667 winning percentage
That's fine if you would personally rather have Brees or Rodgers. I'm sure a lot of people would agree with you.
The All-Pro Team, on the other hand, would rather have Vick.
edit: added more yards and another TD.
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Eastwood
Footballguy
He and Leinart both right?
az_prof
Footballguy
LOL. You might want to wait until the season is over. And, would it surprise you if Vick got hurt again and missed several more games?
whitem0nkey
Footballguy
2 teams?BusterTBronco said:
Stillers Jr.
Footballguy
It was a short journey.whitem0nkey said:
