Video games...what ya playing? And what are you looking forward to? (5 Viewers)

[BroadwayG]

New Humble bundle weekly is up. Crusader kings II and a bunch of other paradox stuff for under $6

 

[Todem]

Playing Madden 25. Enjoying it a lot so far.

The Good:

Gameplay / engine has really been cleaned up. Very smooth, good animations, no more silly tripping over each other. I play on slow speed, and in most cases, it looks like real football. Best gameplay of the series (or of any videogame football, and I say this as a 2k fan).

No more Bill Russell-like LB's.

Running game is really fun.

Franchise mode has been given a nice upgrade. Play as a player, a coach, or an owner (and coach too). Playing offline franchise feels much more "alive" than before - better trade mechanics, more off-the-field "stuff" - it feels like there are 31 other teams out there. Fantasy draft is back for those who want Andrew Luck on their team.

Menus are a bit easier to navigate than before - everything is much clearer as to what it does, etc.

The bad

Load times are still poor

Kicking angles / camera are still poor

You can't sim a season - you have to sim week by week. So if you want to play franchise, and blow your team up Indy-style just to get to the draft and get your future QB, you have to do it a week at a time. Or, just create that guy, put him on the roster, and start the season with him now (that's what I did with the Jets - the qb of the future is here now).

Presentation extras are still poor (no sportscenter-type glitz).

"Pre-order" teases. Wanna play coach as John Madden? Hope you preordered from Gamestop. Wanna play as Tom Flores? Hope you preordered from Target. I may have the stores wrong, but the fact is, no matter where you preordered, there's "locked" content staring you in the face. And if you didn't preorder, you obviously can't do either.**

**Right now, game pricing and delivery is in a weird place. I don't know how I feel about a $59.99 game having content that used to be included ("legends", etc) now as preorder or paid DLC. But this is the game industry in general and not just Madden / EA, and is really for another discussion.

Bottom Line

If you can get over the fact that this doesn't have a good halftime show/etc, and just want a good football game, Madden 25 will definitely deliver. If this exact same game had "2k" on the cover, it would be universally accepted. I loved 2k5, and APF2k8 (still play 2k8 a lot), but this is simply a better game of football (and has been for awhile).

Totally agree.

I despised Madden 13.....pure garbage.

Madden 25 is a joy. The best football game I have ever played and I have played them all. yeah even better than 2K5 on the field.

Great way to end this gen which was a huge let down for football gaming for the most part.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Madden 25 is a joy. The best football game I have ever played and I have played them all. yeah even better than 2K5 on the field.

Great way to end this gen which was a huge let down for football gaming for the most part.

This is strong medicine.

 

[5Rings]

Ok, I need a bit of help. Probably a dumb question, but I'm struggling with the controls for The Last of Us. I've gone though some of the introductory stuff and gotten a board to whack people, as well as played around and made a couple shivs. I can't figure out how to switch out the board for the shiv. I know you can modify the board to accept a shiv on the end, but can't figure out how to do that. I also can't figure out how to set up a bottle/brick as the second weapon so I can pull it out quick.

I generally suck at games, so figuring this crap out tends to be normal for me. Any remediative education would be appreciated.

The board is square button / melee attack.

The shiv is triange button.

to modify the board, hit select, and L1 / R1 over to the "building screen" where you make health kits, shivs, etc. About 35% of the way in to the game it will allow you to modify your melee gear with nails.

press down on your D pad to quickly access the bottle/brick. i never used this as a secondary weapon, more so to get clickers or runners into the position i wanted them to for a stealth attack or bomb attack.

 

[jwb]

Any recommendations or cautions for Dragons Dogma? I loved Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur, Dark Souls, and Demon Souls if that helps at all.

It's basically Dragon Age or KoA without the personality.

You get party members (called minions, I believe), but they are prettymuch interchangeable (in fact, you swap all but one out constantly) - but none have any story or personality.

Two Worlds 2 and Divinity 2 were both better games if you like that type of RPG.

 

[Sand]

Ok, I need a bit of help. Probably a dumb question, but I'm struggling with the controls for The Last of Us. I've gone though some of the introductory stuff and gotten a board to whack people, as well as played around and made a couple shivs. I can't figure out how to switch out the board for the shiv. I know you can modify the board to accept a shiv on the end, but can't figure out how to do that. I also can't figure out how to set up a bottle/brick as the second weapon so I can pull it out quick.

I generally suck at games, so figuring this crap out tends to be normal for me. Any remediative education would be appreciated.

The board is square button / melee attack.

The shiv is triange button.

to modify the board, hit select, and L1 / R1 over to the "building screen" where you make health kits, shivs, etc. About 35% of the way in to the game it will allow you to modify your melee gear with nails.

press down on your D pad to quickly access the bottle/brick. i never used this as a secondary weapon, more so to get clickers or runners into the position i wanted them to for a stealth attack or bomb attack.

Cool, thanks.

 

[jamil]

Playing Madden 25. Enjoying it a lot so far.

The Good:

Gameplay / engine has really been cleaned up. Very smooth, good animations, no more silly tripping over each other. I play on slow speed, and in most cases, it looks like real football. Best gameplay of the series (or of any videogame football, and I say this as a 2k fan).

No more Bill Russell-like LB's.

Running game is really fun.

Franchise mode has been given a nice upgrade. Play as a player, a coach, or an owner (and coach too). Playing offline franchise feels much more "alive" than before - better trade mechanics, more off-the-field "stuff" - it feels like there are 31 other teams out there. Fantasy draft is back for those who want Andrew Luck on their team.

Menus are a bit easier to navigate than before - everything is much clearer as to what it does, etc.

The bad

Load times are still poor

Kicking angles / camera are still poor

You can't sim a season - you have to sim week by week. So if you want to play franchise, and blow your team up Indy-style just to get to the draft and get your future QB, you have to do it a week at a time. Or, just create that guy, put him on the roster, and start the season with him now (that's what I did with the Jets - the qb of the future is here now).

Presentation extras are still poor (no sportscenter-type glitz).

"Pre-order" teases. Wanna play coach as John Madden? Hope you preordered from Gamestop. Wanna play as Tom Flores? Hope you preordered from Target. I may have the stores wrong, but the fact is, no matter where you preordered, there's "locked" content staring you in the face. And if you didn't preorder, you obviously can't do either.**

**Right now, game pricing and delivery is in a weird place. I don't know how I feel about a $59.99 game having content that used to be included ("legends", etc) now as preorder or paid DLC. But this is the game industry in general and not just Madden / EA, and is really for another discussion.

Bottom Line

If you can get over the fact that this doesn't have a good halftime show/etc, and just want a good football game, Madden 25 will definitely deliver. If this exact same game had "2k" on the cover, it would be universally accepted. I loved 2k5, and APF2k8 (still play 2k8 a lot), but this is simply a better game of football (and has been for awhile).

Totally agree.

I despised Madden 13.....pure garbage.

Madden 25 is a joy. The best football game I have ever played and I have played them all. yeah even better than 2K5 on the field.

Great way to end this gen which was a huge let down for football gaming for the most part.

I saw the save draft class function so I'm guessing importing NCAA draft classes is back in the game?

 

[Courtjester]

Just got Madden today (PS3) and so far it is fun, but is there a way to just play the 2013 season with the Broncos--offline?

I also have this annoying 2 second freeze the minute the ball is hiked. it sounds like it is a problem with the older PS3s.

 

[madshot31]

You guys say the gameplay is great for the new madden but what is off or lacking from the presentation and interface? How is the franchise mode?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Any recommendations or cautions for Dragons Dogma? I loved Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur, Dark Souls, and Demon Souls if that helps at all.

It's basically Dragon Age or KoA without the personality.

You get party members (called minions, I believe), but they are prettymuch interchangeable (in fact, you swap all but one out constantly) - but none have any story or personality.

Two Worlds 2 and Divinity 2 were both better games if you like that type of RPG.

I played Two Worlds 2 and liked it but I ranked it just a bit below the other games I listed. I am PS3 owner so I don't think Divinity 2 is available to me.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I know Diablo 3 was panned by some on the PC but the early reviews for the console version have been very high so far with the game being released next week.

Blizzard’s Return To Consoles Is A Smashing Success

Game Informer – 9.25/10

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/diablo_iii/b/xbox360/archive/2013/08/29/diablo-iii-review-console-game-informer.aspx

Suited and looted.

Eurogamer – 9/10

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-08-29-diablo-3-console-review

A few others

GameSurf – 9/10

GamesVillage – 8.9/10

OPM – 8/10

 

[bonesman]

I despised Madden 13.....pure garbage.

Madden 25 is a joy. The best football game I have ever played and I have played them all. yeah even better than 2K5 on the field.

Great way to end this gen which was a huge let down for football gaming for the most part.

I am NOT seeing it. Granted I only played 13 a couple dozen times (just got my PS3 in June), but I'm not seeing a huge difference.

The biggest improvement is you actually get the full playclock on first down instead of having to rush to get a play in. The janky play calling menus are all the same. The audible system (which I haven't really gotten used to) is the same. I've noticed some improvement in the controls, but there will still be times I take control of the WR and press Triangle expecting the guy to jump and he just stops his route.

I don't know if the business with holding L2 before you juke/truck/spin is new, but that's kind of cool. The zone read stuff is fun too. But overall it only seems like a mild upgrade over the last one.

 

[thecatch]

Madden is laggy as heck on my PS3 and just locked up the system 8 plays into my first game. Is the Xbox version any better? (edit: looks like the xbox version is having the same problems, judging by the online reviews)

 

[jwb]

Any recommendations or cautions for Dragons Dogma? I loved Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur, Dark Souls, and Demon Souls if that helps at all.

It's basically Dragon Age or KoA without the personality.

You get party members (called minions, I believe), but they are prettymuch interchangeable (in fact, you swap all but one out constantly) - but none have any story or personality.

Two Worlds 2 and Divinity 2 were both better games if you like that type of RPG.

I played Two Worlds 2 and liked it but I ranked it just a bit below the other games I listed. I am PS3 owner so I don't think Divinity 2 is available to me.

Thanks for the advice.

Yea, all the games you listed were better than Two Worlds 2 (well, maybe not KoA). I meant TW2 was better than the game you asked about.

 

[madshot31]

Any 360 players going to pick up Diablo III? I am going to.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I really need FIFA 14 to get here. Like now, would be good.

 

[bro1ncos]

Went and bought Far Cry 3 today for $7 using my Gamestop Reward points and my Gamestop birthday gift of 20% off a used game purchase.

Heard the single player campaign is good with this one. I enjoyed Far Cry 1 on the PC back in the day. Anyone completed/played the single player campaign? Thoughts?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Went and bought Far Cry 3 today for $7 using my Gamestop Reward points and my Gamestop birthday gift of 20% off a used game purchase.

Heard the single player campaign is good with this one. I enjoyed Far Cry 1 on the PC back in the day. Anyone completed/played the single player campaign? Thoughts?

Excellent game. That was $7 well spent.

 

[thecatch]

Went and bought Far Cry 3 today for $7 using my Gamestop Reward points and my Gamestop birthday gift of 20% off a used game purchase.

Heard the single player campaign is good with this one. I enjoyed Far Cry 1 on the PC back in the day. Anyone completed/played the single player campaign? Thoughts?

I recently played it. It is a very solid, if a little creepy and formulaic, open world action game. I'd enthusiastically recommend it at its current price point.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Just got my Elder Scrolls Online beta invites.

 

[OC Zed]

Sounds like another typical year of Madden... some people love it... some people hate it.

How does the gameplay in Madden 25 compare against this year's NCAA Football?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I was going to pass on GTA5, but with about two months left to go before the new consoles launched, I decided to go ahead and spring for this one. Probably my last PS3 game.

 

[whoknew]

I was going to pass on GTA5, but with about two months left to go before the new consoles launched, I decided to go ahead and spring for this one. Probably my last PS3 game.

I pre-ordered also. And agree - probably my last PS3 game.

 

[Drifter]

Anybody played League of Legends online game? Tons of posters all over work about a work tournament in a few weeks.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

Any recommendations or cautions for Dragons Dogma? I loved Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur, Dark Souls, and Demon Souls if that helps at all.

It's basically Dragon Age or KoA without the personality.

You get party members (called minions, I believe), but they are prettymuch interchangeable (in fact, you swap all but one out constantly) - but none have any story or personality.

Two Worlds 2 and Divinity 2 were both better games if you like that type of RPG.

I played Two Worlds 2 and liked it but I ranked it just a bit below the other games I listed. I am PS3 owner so I don't think Divinity 2 is available to me.

Thanks for the advice.

have you ever played Dragon Age: Origins? it's a couple years older, but I really liked that one and it's similar to the other games you mentioned. you can probably get a GOTY version pretty cheap somewhere.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

I'm a little behind on my gaming news, but I just found out that Final Fantasy X is going to be released as a remastered version for PS3 later this year.

still one of my favorite FFs.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Any recommendations or cautions for Dragons Dogma? I loved Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur, Dark Souls, and Demon Souls if that helps at all.

It's basically Dragon Age or KoA without the personality.

You get party members (called minions, I believe), but they are prettymuch interchangeable (in fact, you swap all but one out constantly) - but none have any story or personality.

Two Worlds 2 and Divinity 2 were both better games if you like that type of RPG.

I played Two Worlds 2 and liked it but I ranked it just a bit below the other games I listed. I am PS3 owner so I don't think Divinity 2 is available to me.

Thanks for the advice.

have you ever played Dragon Age: Origins? it's a couple years older, but I really liked that one and it's similar to the other games you mentioned. you can probably get a GOTY version pretty cheap somewhere.

yes I did. I liked it but a bit less than the ones I mentioned.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Any recommendations or cautions for Dragons Dogma? I loved Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur, Dark Souls, and Demon Souls if that helps at all.

It's basically Dragon Age or KoA without the personality.

You get party members (called minions, I believe), but they are prettymuch interchangeable (in fact, you swap all but one out constantly) - but none have any story or personality.

Two Worlds 2 and Divinity 2 were both better games if you like that type of RPG.

I played Two Worlds 2 and liked it but I ranked it just a bit below the other games I listed. I am PS3 owner so I don't think Divinity 2 is available to me.Thanks for the advice.

have you ever played Dragon Age: Origins? it's a couple years older, but I really liked that one and it's similar to the other games you mentioned. you can probably get a GOTY version pretty cheap somewhere.

yes I did. I liked it but a bit less than the ones I mentioned.

Dark Souls? Best game Ive played this generation not named Gears.

 

[The Tick]

If i remember correctly some people have been asking about Kingdoms of Amalar recently. I just bought it off of amazon download with both it's expansions for $9.99. It never went on sale on the steam summer sale, so this may be the best you can do on it.

Never tried downloading off of amazon before, but for that price figure it was time to give it a shot.

 

[Chaka]

I need help with a gift for a gamer friend of mine. What are some of the more anticipated PC releases (either recently released or something I can pre-order) that you guys are really looking forward to playing?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Mad Cow]

I need help with a gift for a gamer friend of mine. What are some of the more anticipated PC releases (either recently released or something I can pre-order) that you guys are really looking forward to playing?

Thanks for the help.

Battlefield 4, Rome 2:Total War

 

[Chaka]

I need help with a gift for a gamer friend of mine. What are some of the more anticipated PC releases (either recently released or something I can pre-order) that you guys are really looking forward to playing?

Thanks for the help.

Battlefield 4, Rome 2:Total War

 

[NewlyRetired]

Any recommendations or cautions for Dragons Dogma? I loved Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur, Dark Souls, and Demon Souls if that helps at all.

It's basically Dragon Age or KoA without the personality.

You get party members (called minions, I believe), but they are prettymuch interchangeable (in fact, you swap all but one out constantly) - but none have any story or personality.

Two Worlds 2 and Divinity 2 were both better games if you like that type of RPG.

I played Two Worlds 2 and liked it but I ranked it just a bit below the other games I listed. I am PS3 owner so I don't think Divinity 2 is available to me.Thanks for the advice.

have you ever played Dragon Age: Origins? it's a couple years older, but I really liked that one and it's similar to the other games you mentioned. you can probably get a GOTY version pretty cheap somewhere.

yes I did. I liked it but a bit less than the ones I mentioned.

Dark Souls? Best game Ive played this generation not named Gears.

Yes, mentioned that one along with Demon Souls in my first post. Love them both. Can't wait for Dark Souls 2.

 

[DrJ]

It appears that the IOS remake of M.U.L.E. is nearing completion, should be out in a few weeks according to the facebook page.

I haven't been looking forward to a game this much in quite some time.

http://mulereturns.com/

 

[biggamer3]

GTA V next week, will be first game i purchased since Fifa 13

 

[EYLive]

Anybody played League of Legends online game? Tons of posters all over work about a work tournament in a few weeks.

I tried to gauge the interest level of the FFA in LoL last year, it's low.

I enjoy it quite a bit.

 

[Run It Up]

I just can't enjoy League, idk if its because I've played DOTA since its WC3 days, I don't know.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Any recommendations or cautions for Dragons Dogma? I loved Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur, Dark Souls, and Demon Souls if that helps at all.

It's basically Dragon Age or KoA without the personality.

You get party members (called minions, I believe), but they are prettymuch interchangeable (in fact, you swap all but one out constantly) - but none have any story or personality.

Two Worlds 2 and Divinity 2 were both better games if you like that type of RPG.

I played Two Worlds 2 and liked it but I ranked it just a bit below the other games I listed. I am PS3 owner so I don't think Divinity 2 is available to me.Thanks for the advice.

have you ever played Dragon Age: Origins? it's a couple years older, but I really liked that one and it's similar to the other games you mentioned. you can probably get a GOTY version pretty cheap somewhere.

yes I did. I liked it but a bit less than the ones I mentioned.

Dark Souls? Best game Ive played this generation not named Gears.

Yes, mentioned that one along with Demon Souls in my first post. Love them both. Can't wait for Dark Souls 2.

Somehow missed that.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Gamefly is having a sale on some decent games:

Xbox 360
Aliens: Colonial Marines $8.99
Borderlands 2 $9.99
Crysis 3 $12.99
Dead Island $9.99
DMC: Devil May Cry $12.99
Dishonored $12.99
Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two $8.99
Dragon's Dogma $12.99
Far Cry 3 $14.99
Gears of War: Judgment $14.99
Halo 4 $12.99
The Hip Hop Dance Experience $9.99
Hitman: Absolution $9.99
Just Dance 4 $9.99
Madden NFL 13 $9.99
Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance $14.99
Max Payne 3 $9.99
Medal of Honor Warfighter $8.99
Omerta: City of Gangsters $8.99
Prototype 2 $17.99
Resident Evil 6 $8.99
Sniper Elite V2 $9.99
Tomb Raider $14.99
The Walking Dead $9.99
Wipeout 3 $9.99

PlayStation 3
The Amazing Spider-Man $12.99
Assassin's Creed III $9.99
Batman: Arkham City $14.99
Borderlands 2 $9.99
Crysis 2 $9.99
Dead Island Riptide $12.99
Dead Space 3 $12.99
Dishonored $12.99
DMC: Devil May Cry $12.99
God of War: Ascension $17.99
Hitman: Absolution $9.99
LEGO Lord of the Rings $9.99
Little Big Planet Karting $12.99
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale $12.99
Medal of Honor Warfighter $8.99
Madden NFL 13 $9.99
Max Payne 3 $9.99
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge $14.99
Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault $12.99
Resident Evil 6 $8.99
Little Big Planet Karting $12.99
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale $12.99
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time $12.99
Spec Ops: The Line $9.99
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception $12.99
XCOM: Enemy Unknown $12.99

 

[flysack]

I'm sure most in here at stoked about GTA V's release in 6 days.

Yea, I'm getting it on the release date even though I was disappointed by GTA IV.

But one thing does give me pause: the map is supposed to be bigger than Vice City, San Andreas, and IV's Liberty City combined.

If there was one thing that I didn't care for in San Andreas, it was how huge the map was. It seems like Vice City's map was perfect - a big enough sandbox to explore without getting ridiculous.

THAT SAID, you're supposed to play three different characters too, so maybe they each "govern" a region or something.

 

[flysack]

It appears that the IOS remake of M.U.L.E. is nearing completion, should be out in a few weeks according to the facebook page.

I haven't been looking forward to a game this much in quite some time.

http://mulereturns.com/

The first computer game I ever played and loved.

Ahhh, harkens the days of Lode Runner and Ultima III too. Good times.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'm sure most in here at stoked about GTA V's release in 6 days.

Yea, I'm getting it on the release date even though I was disappointed by GTA IV.

But one thing does give me pause: the map is supposed to be bigger than Vice City, San Andreas, and IV's Liberty City combined.

If there was one thing that I didn't care for in San Andreas, it was how huge the map was. It seems like Vice City's map was perfect - a big enough sandbox to explore without getting ridiculous.

THAT SAID, you're supposed to play three different characters too, so maybe they each "govern" a region or something.

I'm in on release day too, but my expectations are definitely in check. Rockstar's games almost always feature too much driving-around-for-sake-of-driving-around (no fast travel), broken checkpointing, and wonky shooting mechanics. If GTA 5 fixes those issues I'll be ecstatic, but I'm not banking on it.

 

[SlaX]

I'm sure most in here at stoked about GTA V's release in 6 days.

Yea, I'm getting it on the release date even though I was disappointed by GTA IV.

But one thing does give me pause: the map is supposed to be bigger than Vice City, San Andreas, and IV's Liberty City combined.

If there was one thing that I didn't care for in San Andreas, it was how huge the map was. It seems like Vice City's map was perfect - a big enough sandbox to explore without getting ridiculous.

THAT SAID, you're supposed to play three different characters too, so maybe they each "govern" a region or something.

I'm in on release day too, but my expectations are definitely in check. Rockstar's games almost always feature too much driving-around-for-sake-of-driving-around (no fast travel), broken checkpointing, and wonky shooting mechanics. If GTA 5 fixes those issues I'll be ecstatic, but I'm not banking on it.

Shooting mechanics are reported to be more like Max Payne 3 than GTA IV.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'm sure most in here at stoked about GTA V's release in 6 days.

Yea, I'm getting it on the release date even though I was disappointed by GTA IV.

But one thing does give me pause: the map is supposed to be bigger than Vice City, San Andreas, and IV's Liberty City combined.

If there was one thing that I didn't care for in San Andreas, it was how huge the map was. It seems like Vice City's map was perfect - a big enough sandbox to explore without getting ridiculous.

THAT SAID, you're supposed to play three different characters too, so maybe they each "govern" a region or something.

I'm in on release day too, but my expectations are definitely in check. Rockstar's games almost always feature too much driving-around-for-sake-of-driving-around (no fast travel), broken checkpointing, and wonky shooting mechanics. If GTA 5 fixes those issues I'll be ecstatic, but I'm not banking on it.

Shooting mechanics are reported to be more like Max Payne 3 than GTA IV.

Yeah, but I've heard stuff like "the shooting mechanics are, like, totally fixed now" before. Namely prior to every release after GTA 3. And they always end up with the same old-fashioned lock-on mechanic. Obviously that doesn't ruin the game or I wouldn't have preordered, but Rockstar does have a long history of carrying the same gameplay flaws over from game to game and franchise to franchise.

 

[jwb]

I'm sure most in here at stoked about GTA V's release in 6 days.

Yea, I'm getting it on the release date even though I was disappointed by GTA IV.

But one thing does give me pause: the map is supposed to be bigger than Vice City, San Andreas, and IV's Liberty City combined.

If there was one thing that I didn't care for in San Andreas, it was how huge the map was. It seems like Vice City's map was perfect - a big enough sandbox to explore without getting ridiculous.

THAT SAID, you're supposed to play three different characters too, so maybe they each "govern" a region or something.

I'm in on release day too, but my expectations are definitely in check. Rockstar's games almost always feature too much driving-around-for-sake-of-driving-around (no fast travel), broken checkpointing, and wonky shooting mechanics. If GTA 5 fixes those issues I'll be ecstatic, but I'm not banking on it.

Shooting mechanics are reported to be more like Max Payne 3 than GTA IV.

Yeah, but I've heard stuff like "the shooting mechanics are, like, totally fixed now" before. Namely prior to every release after GTA 3. And they always end up with the same old-fashioned lock-on mechanic. Obviously that doesn't ruin the game or I wouldn't have preordered, but Rockstar does have a long history of carrying the same gameplay flaws over from game to game and franchise to franchise.

Wasn't RDR's shooting a lot better?

 

[Drifter]

Anybody played League of Legends online game? Tons of posters all over work about a work tournament in a few weeks.

I tried to gauge the interest level of the FFA in LoL last year, it's low.

I enjoy it quite a bit.

What kind of game is it?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I'm sure most in here at stoked about GTA V's release in 6 days.

Yea, I'm getting it on the release date even though I was disappointed by GTA IV.

But one thing does give me pause: the map is supposed to be bigger than Vice City, San Andreas, and IV's Liberty City combined.

If there was one thing that I didn't care for in San Andreas, it was how huge the map was. It seems like Vice City's map was perfect - a big enough sandbox to explore without getting ridiculous.

THAT SAID, you're supposed to play three different characters too, so maybe they each "govern" a region or something.

I'm in on release day too, but my expectations are definitely in check. Rockstar's games almost always feature too much driving-around-for-sake-of-driving-around (no fast travel), broken checkpointing, and wonky shooting mechanics. If GTA 5 fixes those issues I'll be ecstatic, but I'm not banking on it.

Shooting mechanics are reported to be more like Max Payne 3 than GTA IV.

Yeah, but I've heard stuff like "the shooting mechanics are, like, totally fixed now" before. Namely prior to every release after GTA 3. And they always end up with the same old-fashioned lock-on mechanic. Obviously that doesn't ruin the game or I wouldn't have preordered, but Rockstar does have a long history of carrying the same gameplay flaws over from game to game and franchise to franchise.

Wasn't RDR's shooting a lot better?

Better than GTA 3, but they still featured an excessive reliance on lock-on. That's just a bizarre mechanic now that every other third-person game features easy over-the-shoulder shooting.

 

[jwb]

I'm sure most in here at stoked about GTA V's release in 6 days.

Yea, I'm getting it on the release date even though I was disappointed by GTA IV.

But one thing does give me pause: the map is supposed to be bigger than Vice City, San Andreas, and IV's Liberty City combined.

If there was one thing that I didn't care for in San Andreas, it was how huge the map was. It seems like Vice City's map was perfect - a big enough sandbox to explore without getting ridiculous.

THAT SAID, you're supposed to play three different characters too, so maybe they each "govern" a region or something.

I'm in on release day too, but my expectations are definitely in check. Rockstar's games almost always feature too much driving-around-for-sake-of-driving-around (no fast travel), broken checkpointing, and wonky shooting mechanics. If GTA 5 fixes those issues I'll be ecstatic, but I'm not banking on it.

Shooting mechanics are reported to be more like Max Payne 3 than GTA IV.

Yeah, but I've heard stuff like "the shooting mechanics are, like, totally fixed now" before. Namely prior to every release after GTA 3. And they always end up with the same old-fashioned lock-on mechanic. Obviously that doesn't ruin the game or I wouldn't have preordered, but Rockstar does have a long history of carrying the same gameplay flaws over from game to game and franchise to franchise.

Wasn't RDR's shooting a lot better?

Better than GTA 3, but they still featured an excessive reliance on lock-on. That's just a bizarre mechanic now that every other third-person game features easy over-the-shoulder shooting.

I suppose, but most of those 3rd person games are more shooters, where GTA (and RDR) are more... well... diverse. You do shoot, but I wouldn't call these Rockstar games shooters by any stretch. Isn't the camera a little further out in GTA games than Gears or Splinter Cell or other 3rd person games? Not sure if the over the shoulder works well w/ that (I'm going by memory that it seems to be pulled out further, but I could be wrong.)

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Better than GTA 3, but they still featured an excessive reliance on lock-on. That's just a bizarre mechanic now that every other third-person game features easy over-the-shoulder shooting.

I suppose, but most of those 3rd person games are more shooters, where GTA (and RDR) are more... well... diverse. You do shoot, but I wouldn't call these Rockstar games shooters by any stretch. Isn't the camera a little further out in GTA games than Gears or Splinter Cell or other 3rd person games? Not sure if the over the shoulder works well w/ that (I'm going by memory that it seems to be pulled out further, but I could be wrong.)

I used to rationalize it that way too. Then I played Sleeping Dogs and Saints Row, both which have butter-smooth over-the-shoulder shooting. GTA games always have a lot going for them, but those two games really highlight some of the glaring flaws that people tend to overlook when evaluating Rockstar games.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Better than GTA 3, but they still featured an excessive reliance on lock-on. That's just a bizarre mechanic now that every other third-person game features easy over-the-shoulder shooting.

I suppose, but most of those 3rd person games are more shooters, where GTA (and RDR) are more... well... diverse. You do shoot, but I wouldn't call these Rockstar games shooters by any stretch. Isn't the camera a little further out in GTA games than Gears or Splinter Cell or other 3rd person games? Not sure if the over the shoulder works well w/ that (I'm going by memory that it seems to be pulled out further, but I could be wrong.)

I used to rationalize it that way too. Then I played Sleeping Dogs and Saints Row, both which have butter-smooth over-the-shoulder shooting. GTA games always have a lot going for them, but those two games really highlight some of the glaring flaws that people tend to overlook when evaluating Rockstar games.

I'm not a huge gamer, by any means, but I do love to play certain ones. I was a huge fan of Saints Row 3 and Red Dead Redemption. The last GTA game I played and loved was the one with Ray Liotta.

So I ask in all seriousness: What's the difference between RDR and SR3 when it comes to, what you guys keep calling "over the shoulder"?