Vincent Jackson not likely to be a Viking? (1 Viewer)

[jestertj]

meanwhile...

Rumors fly, Jackson remains a Charger for now

By Kevin Acee

Tuesday, September 21, 2010 at 2:34 p.m.

There is talk ongoing between the Chargers and other teams about Vincent Jackson, but not nearly as much as there is going on elsewhere.

As rumors fly -- including one prevalent one that Jackson was actually being flown to Minnesota on the Vikings owner's private plane -- the disgruntled receiver remains firmly in the Chargers' control.

His agents have the parameters of a deal done with at least one team and have outlined deals with other clubs, but the Chargers have yet to find a deal to their liking, sources said.

The most active suitor is, indeed, the Vikings. And they are the most likely to get Jackson. But there is at least one other team on the line.

In order to be able to play before the seventh week of the season, Jackson must be traded by 1 p.m. (PT) Wednesday.

LOL at the people thinking A.J. isn't fine with letting Jackson burn.

Agreed. There is a reason a trade hasn't already been consumated - the incentives don't line up. AJ and the Bolts have no incentive to move VJ unless they get more value than the compensatory picks offer. The Vikes don't want to give up a 2nd rounder for a player who will only play 11 games for them this year. I hope something happens, but it wouldn't surprise me if there is a stalemate. AJ catches a lot of heat for his hard line stances, but this is the exact situation where his reputation and consistency work to the Chargers advantage. The Vikes (and Rams, Redskins, etc.) know that AJ isn't budging. VJ's camp knows that AJ isn't budging. He's holding the cards and using his leverage. I love it.

Alright, AJ's a hard ### and that's great. Let's not get too crazy about how tough he is. Accepting a deal before 2:59 pm Wednesday, unless he's sure it's the best deal he can get, wouldn't make much sense. If he's really playing hard ball, he will not make any deal. He's probably smart enough to wait and see if the offers get any better before he has to pull the trigger or pass.

 

[geoff8695]

meanwhile...

Rumors fly, Jackson remains a Charger for now

By Kevin Acee

Tuesday, September 21, 2010 at 2:34 p.m.

There is talk ongoing between the Chargers and other teams about Vincent Jackson, but not nearly as much as there is going on elsewhere.

As rumors fly -- including one prevalent one that Jackson was actually being flown to Minnesota on the Vikings owner's private plane -- the disgruntled receiver remains firmly in the Chargers' control.

His agents have the parameters of a deal done with at least one team and have outlined deals with other clubs, but the Chargers have yet to find a deal to their liking, sources said.

The most active suitor is, indeed, the Vikings. And they are the most likely to get Jackson. But there is at least one other team on the line.

In order to be able to play before the seventh week of the season, Jackson must be traded by 1 p.m. (PT) Wednesday.

LOL at the people thinking A.J. isn't fine with letting Jackson burn.

That's fine, but I hope Minny offers no more than a 3rd whether AJ blinks or not. I'm sure AJ would like to induce a 2nd or better by getting teams to bid against one another (or bid against themselves), but a part of me would love nothing better than for AJ to "win" by beating himself and failing to do what's in the best interest of the Chargers. It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

If AJ does turn down offers that would have improved his team, then I would find it even more enjoyable if, when the new CBA is finalized, there are no longer any compensatory picks to be had!

 

[gregjcross]

meanwhile...

Rumors fly, Jackson remains a Charger for now

By Kevin Acee

Tuesday, September 21, 2010 at 2:34 p.m.

There is talk ongoing between the Chargers and other teams about Vincent Jackson, but not nearly as much as there is going on elsewhere.

As rumors fly -- including one prevalent one that Jackson was actually being flown to Minnesota on the Vikings owner's private plane -- the disgruntled receiver remains firmly in the Chargers' control.

His agents have the parameters of a deal done with at least one team and have outlined deals with other clubs, but the Chargers have yet to find a deal to their liking, sources said.

The most active suitor is, indeed, the Vikings. And they are the most likely to get Jackson. But there is at least one other team on the line.

In order to be able to play before the seventh week of the season, Jackson must be traded by 1 p.m. (PT) Wednesday.

LOL at the people thinking A.J. isn't fine with letting Jackson burn.

That's fine, but I hope Minny offers no more than a 3rd whether AJ blinks or not. I'm sure AJ would like to induce a 2nd or better by getting teams to bid against one another (or bid against themselves), but a part of me would love nothing better than for AJ to "win" by beating himself and failing to do what's in the best interest of the Chargers. It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

If AJ does turn down offers that would have improved his team, then I would find it even more enjoyable if, when the new CBA is finalized, there are no longer any compensatory picks to be had!

Picks outside of the top 60 players mean little. Yeah you will find some depth or a sleeper but AJ knows this.

 

[Gr00vus]

Alright, AJ's a hard ### and that's great. Let's not get too crazy about how tough he is. Accepting a deal before 2:59 pm Wednesday, unless he's sure it's the best deal he can get, wouldn't make much sense. If he's really playing hard ball, he will not make any deal. He's probably smart enough to wait and see if the offers get any better before he has to pull the trigger or pass.

I'm pretty sure that the minute someone offers to pay the price he's asking he'll take that deal. And I figure that price is either a 2nd rounder or a couple of 3rds with one of them possibly being upgraded to a 2 conditional upon Jackson signing a long term deal.And you know what else? For a team that embarrassed itself going hat in hand to Mississippi to beg Favre to come back it'd be pretty stupid not to pay a 2nd rounder to salvage this season.

 

[Gr00vus]

That's fine, but I hope Minny offers no more than a 3rd whether AJ blinks or not. I'm sure AJ would like to induce a 2nd or better by getting teams to bid against one another (or bid against themselves), but a part of me would love nothing better than for AJ to "win" by beating himself and failing to do what's in the best interest of the Chargers. It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.If AJ does turn down offers that would have improved his team, then I would find it even more enjoyable if, when the new CBA is finalized, there are no longer any compensatory picks to be had!

Picks outside of the top 60 players mean little. Yeah you will find some depth or a sleeper but AJ knows this.

While we all get emotional about this stuff, I'm pretty sure A.J. doesn't when the money is on the line. Sure he needs to feed his ego, but he is sharp enough to know the best way to get his ego fed is for the Chargers to continue to put up winning seasons and make the playoffs. All his decisions are based mainly on that - not sticking it to people to make himself look tough.

 

[Polar Dude]

It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

You're not doing all the math here. It's not 3rd round pick > (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. It's 3rd round pick + making another team better < (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. Many people see AJ as a "petty and vindictive" #####. I seem him as obsessively competitive.

 

[bweiser]

meanwhile...

Rumors fly, Jackson remains a Charger for now

By Kevin Acee

Tuesday, September 21, 2010 at 2:34 p.m.

There is talk ongoing between the Chargers and other teams about Vincent Jackson, but not nearly as much as there is going on elsewhere.

As rumors fly -- including one prevalent one that Jackson was actually being flown to Minnesota on the Vikings owner's private plane -- the disgruntled receiver remains firmly in the Chargers' control.

His agents have the parameters of a deal done with at least one team and have outlined deals with other clubs, but the Chargers have yet to find a deal to their liking, sources said.

The most active suitor is, indeed, the Vikings. And they are the most likely to get Jackson. But there is at least one other team on the line.

In order to be able to play before the seventh week of the season, Jackson must be traded by 1 p.m. (PT) Wednesday.

LOL at the people thinking A.J. isn't fine with letting Jackson burn.

That's fine, but I hope Minny offers no more than a 3rd whether AJ blinks or not. I'm sure AJ would like to induce a 2nd or better by getting teams to bid against one another (or bid against themselves), but a part of me would love nothing better than for AJ to "win" by beating himself and failing to do what's in the best interest of the Chargers. It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

If AJ does turn down offers that would have improved his team, then I would find it even more enjoyable if, when the new CBA is finalized, there are no longer any compensatory picks to be had!

Picks outside of the top 60 players mean little. Yeah you will find some depth or a sleeper but AJ knows this.

Vincent Jackson himself was not a top 60 pick.

 

[fruity pebbles]

It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

You're not doing all the math here. It's not 3rd round pick > (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. It's 3rd round pick + making another team better < (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. Many people see AJ as a "petty and vindictive" #####. I seem him as obsessively competitive.

Its also the difference between a definite third this year or a possible third in 2012. If he passes up a third this year, theres really no other reason than personal.

 

[geoff8695]

meanwhile...

Rumors fly, Jackson remains a Charger for now

By Kevin Acee

Tuesday, September 21, 2010 at 2:34 p.m.

There is talk ongoing between the Chargers and other teams about Vincent Jackson, but not nearly as much as there is going on elsewhere.

As rumors fly -- including one prevalent one that Jackson was actually being flown to Minnesota on the Vikings owner's private plane -- the disgruntled receiver remains firmly in the Chargers' control.

His agents have the parameters of a deal done with at least one team and have outlined deals with other clubs, but the Chargers have yet to find a deal to their liking, sources said.

The most active suitor is, indeed, the Vikings. And they are the most likely to get Jackson. But there is at least one other team on the line.

In order to be able to play before the seventh week of the season, Jackson must be traded by 1 p.m. (PT) Wednesday.

LOL at the people thinking A.J. isn't fine with letting Jackson burn.

That's fine, but I hope Minny offers no more than a 3rd whether AJ blinks or not. I'm sure AJ would like to induce a 2nd or better by getting teams to bid against one another (or bid against themselves), but a part of me would love nothing better than for AJ to "win" by beating himself and failing to do what's in the best interest of the Chargers. It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

If AJ does turn down offers that would have improved his team, then I would find it even more enjoyable if, when the new CBA is finalized, there are no longer any compensatory picks to be had!

Picks outside of the top 60 players mean little. Yeah you will find some depth or a sleeper but AJ knows this.

gonna have to agree to disagree here - I don't have time to pull up a list of all the 3rd round successes from the last several years, but suffice it to say I STRONGLY disagree...

 

[Gators]

According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, Vincent Jackson's agents have "the parameters of a deal" in place with at least one team and have "outlined deals" with other teams.

The Chargers are holding up the process, having "yet to find a deal to their liking." This is hardly a surprise. GM A.J. Smith is holding the leverage here, and he's never been shy about wielding it. The Union-Tribune confirms that the Vikes have been the most aggressive pursuer and the team most likely to pull the trigger on Smith's trade demands.

 

[geoff8695]

It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

You're not doing all the math here. It's not 3rd round pick > (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. It's 3rd round pick + making another team better < (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. Many people see AJ as a "petty and vindictive" #####. I seem him as obsessively competitive.

There's really nothing gained by the chargers in not making the Vikings or another NFC team better, but there is something gained by getting a 3rd rounder next April. Also, the Vikings could very well implode with or without VJ, so that 3rd could be a lot better than you might expect. I think Favre v.2010 <<< Favre v.2009.

 

[The Jerk]

meanwhile...

Rumors fly, Jackson remains a Charger for now

By Kevin Acee

Tuesday, September 21, 2010 at 2:34 p.m.

There is talk ongoing between the Chargers and other teams about Vincent Jackson, but not nearly as much as there is going on elsewhere.

As rumors fly -- including one prevalent one that Jackson was actually being flown to Minnesota on the Vikings owner's private plane -- the disgruntled receiver remains firmly in the Chargers' control.

His agents have the parameters of a deal done with at least one team and have outlined deals with other clubs, but the Chargers have yet to find a deal to their liking, sources said.

The most active suitor is, indeed, the Vikings. And they are the most likely to get Jackson. But there is at least one other team on the line.

In order to be able to play before the seventh week of the season, Jackson must be traded by 1 p.m. (PT) Wednesday.

LOL at the people thinking A.J. isn't fine with letting Jackson burn.

That's fine, but I hope Minny offers no more than a 3rd whether AJ blinks or not. I'm sure AJ would like to induce a 2nd or better by getting teams to bid against one another (or bid against themselves), but a part of me would love nothing better than for AJ to "win" by beating himself and failing to do what's in the best interest of the Chargers. It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

If AJ does turn down offers that would have improved his team, then I would find it even more enjoyable if, when the new CBA is finalized, there are no longer any compensatory picks to be had!

Picks outside of the top 60 players mean little. Yeah you will find some depth or a sleeper but AJ knows this.

gonna have to agree to disagree here - I don't have time to pull up a list of all the 3rd round successes from the last several years, but suffice it to say I STRONGLY disagree...

Here's a starter list for you. I've restricted the list to third rounders only. Of course, there are bargains in the fourth round and beyond, too. (number in parentheses is overall draft selection)

Hines Ward (92)

Brian Westbrook (91)

Mike Vrabel (91)

Steve Smith CAR (74)

Justin Tuck (74)

Jason Taylor (73)

Joey Porter (73)

Jason Witten (69)

Lance Briggs (68)

Ronde Barber (66)

Frank Gore (65)

 

[geoff8695]

Picks outside of the top 60 players mean little. Yeah you will find some depth or a sleeper but AJ knows this.

gonna have to agree to disagree here - I don't have time to pull up a list of all the 3rd round successes from the last several years, but suffice it to say I STRONGLY disagree...

Here's a starter list for you. I've restricted the list to third rounders only. Of course, there are bargains in the fourth round and beyond, too. (number in parentheses is overall draft selection)Hines Ward (92)Brian Westbrook (91)Mike Vrabel (91)Steve Smith CAR (74)Justin Tuck (74)Jason Taylor (73)Joey Porter (73)Jason Witten (69)Lance Briggs (68)Ronde Barber (66)Frank Gore (65)

And the best part from a GM's standpoint is they cost relatively very little compared to a 1st or even a 2nd, yet the talent in the top 100 or so is still pretty strong.

 

[cstu]

It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

You're not doing all the math here. It's not 3rd round pick > (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. It's 3rd round pick + making another team better < (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. Many people see AJ as a "petty and vindictive" #####. I seem him as obsessively competitive.

Its also the difference between a definite third this year or a possible third in 2012. If he passes up a third this year, theres really no other reason than personal.

Of course it's personal and I don't expect AJ to do VJax any favors by trading him and getting a pick that likely won't be more than 10 spots higher than a comp pick. I think 2nd from the Vikings has to be a part of it even if the Chargers have to give up a pick.

 

[cstu]

Here's a starter list for you. I've restricted the list to third rounders only. Of course, there are bargains in the fourth round and beyond, too. (number in parentheses is overall draft selection)Hines Ward (92)Brian Westbrook (91)Mike Vrabel (91)Steve Smith CAR (74)Justin Tuck (74)Jason Taylor (73)Joey Porter (73)Jason Witten (69)Lance Briggs (68)Ronde Barber (66)Frank Gore (65)

11 players in what, 10 years? That's about a 1 in 30 hit ratio.

 

[geoff8695]

It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

You're not doing all the math here. It's not 3rd round pick > (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. It's 3rd round pick + making another team better < (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. Many people see AJ as a "petty and vindictive" #####. I seem him as obsessively competitive.

Its also the difference between a definite third this year or a possible third in 2012. If he passes up a third this year, theres really no other reason than personal.

Of course it's personal and I don't expect AJ to do VJax any favors by trading him and getting a pick that likely won't be more than 10 spots higher than a comp pick. I think 2nd from the Vikings has to be a part of it even if the Chargers have to give up a pick.

Don't get me wrong I don't begrudge AJ for asking for this.

 

[Gr00vus]

It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

You're not doing all the math here. It's not 3rd round pick > (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. It's 3rd round pick + making another team better < (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. Many people see AJ as a "petty and vindictive" #####. I seem him as obsessively competitive.

Its also the difference between a definite third this year or a possible third in 2012. If he passes up a third this year, theres really no other reason than personal.

Of course it's personal and I don't expect AJ to do VJax any favors by trading him and getting a pick that likely won't be more than 10 spots higher than a comp pick. I think 2nd from the Vikings has to be a part of it even if the Chargers have to give up a pick.

Not only that, but the Chargers would continue to hold Jackson's rights for the rest of the season. Though unlikely they could still work out some kind of deal that sees him play part of this season - like if one or two of the current WRs go down (or just don't play well enough) past the trade deadline, etc (or can people not report after the trade deadline either?).

 

[fruity pebbles]

It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

You're not doing all the math here. It's not 3rd round pick > (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. It's 3rd round pick + making another team better < (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. Many people see AJ as a "petty and vindictive" #####. I seem him as obsessively competitive.

Its also the difference between a definite third this year or a possible third in 2012. If he passes up a third this year, theres really no other reason than personal.

Of course it's personal and I don't expect AJ to do VJax any favors by trading him and getting a pick that likely won't be more than 10 spots higher than a comp pick. I think 2nd from the Vikings has to be a part of it even if the Chargers have to give up a pick.

Its a pick 10 spots higher and a year early. Big difference. Its also a definite pick vs a possible pick. If he holding out for a second i think hell be holding vjax for awhile. Be really funny if he does that and they get rid of compensatory picks in the new cba.

 

[The Jerk]

Here's a starter list for you. I've restricted the list to third rounders only. Of course, there are bargains in the fourth round and beyond, too. (number in parentheses is overall draft selection)Hines Ward (92)Brian Westbrook (91)Mike Vrabel (91)Steve Smith CAR (74)Justin Tuck (74)Jason Taylor (73)Joey Porter (73)Jason Witten (69)Lance Briggs (68)Ronde Barber (66)Frank Gore (65)

11 players in what, 10 years? That's about a 1 in 30 hit ratio.

I'm hoping your fishing.That's a quick list highlighting the third round picks that have proven to be All-Pro, Pro Bowlers, etc. There are a whole lot more who are "just" long term starters.Thinking third rounders in the NFL draft are are good for just "depth" is analogous to the FF owners who think their league's draft is over by the end of the fifth round.

 

[craxie]

Here's a starter list for you. I've restricted the list to third rounders only. Of course, there are bargains in the fourth round and beyond, too. (number in parentheses is overall draft selection)Hines Ward (92)Brian Westbrook (91)Mike Vrabel (91)Steve Smith CAR (74)Justin Tuck (74)Jason Taylor (73)Joey Porter (73)Jason Witten (69)Lance Briggs (68)Ronde Barber (66)Frank Gore (65)

11 players in what, 10 years? That's about a 1 in 30 hit ratio.

that's not even close to all 3rd round startersi can think of 3 more for the chargers alone off the top of my head (Kaeding, Hardwick, Vasquez)plus Ben Leber was a starter for many yearsedit: what The Jerk said

 

[Gr00vus]

Here's a starter list for you. I've restricted the list to third rounders only. Of course, there are bargains in the fourth round and beyond, too. (number in parentheses is overall draft selection)Hines Ward (92)Brian Westbrook (91)Mike Vrabel (91)Steve Smith CAR (74)Justin Tuck (74)Jason Taylor (73)Joey Porter (73)Jason Witten (69)Lance Briggs (68)Ronde Barber (66)Frank Gore (65)

11 players in what, 10 years? That's about a 1 in 30 hit ratio.

I'm hoping your fishing.That's a quick list highlighting the third round picks that have proven to be All-Pro, Pro Bowlers, etc. There are a whole lot more who are "just" long term starters.Thinking third rounders in the NFL draft are are good for just "depth" is analogous to the FF owners who think their league's draft is over by the end of the fifth round.

It'd be interesting to see the % 2nd rounders who got starting gigs over multiple seasons vs. the same for 3rd rounders. I wonder if Drinen doesn't already have some kind of dominator for that.

 

[The Jerk]

Here's a few more notable third round picks from the past three seasons (not counting 2010 -- too early). As a typical (non-IDP) FF player, I'm not as up on linemen and defensive players, so some others could also be on this list. These are mostly fantasy-relevant players.

2009:

65 Shonn Greene

83 Brandon Tate

84 Mike Wallace

92 Jerraud Powers

2008:

73 Jamaal Charles

84 Harry Douglas

86 Tom Zbikowski

89 Steve Slaton

91 Jermichael Finley

95 Mario Manningham

2007:

73 Jacoby Jones

75 Laurent Robinson

78 James Jones

79 Mike Sims-Walker

 

[Riffraff]

It's a fine strategy to wait for the other side to blink first in order to maximize return, but in the end AJ can guarantee the Chargers a return that is better than a compensatory pick. OTOH, it's NOT a good strategy to be petty and vindictive and cut off one's nose to spite one's own face.

You're not doing all the math here. It's not 3rd round pick > (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. It's 3rd round pick + making another team better < (likely bottom of the 3rd) compensatory pick. Many people see AJ as a "petty and vindictive" #####. I seem him as obsessively competitive.

Its also the difference between a definite third this year or a possible third in 2012. If he passes up a third this year, theres really no other reason than personal.

Of course it's personal and I don't expect AJ to do VJax any favors by trading him and getting a pick that likely won't be more than 10 spots higher than a comp pick. I think 2nd from the Vikings has to be a part of it even if the Chargers have to give up a pick.

Its a pick 10 spots higher and a year early. Big difference. Its also a definite pick vs a possible pick. If he holding out for a second i think hell be holding vjax for awhile. Be really funny if he does that and they get rid of compensatory picks in the new cba.

AJ is probably still hedging his bets that VJ caves at the end of the season. Never know how much VJ might like to play for another play-off loss, err... possible Super Bowl run.Oh, and we still do not know if the CBA will allow the Chargers to franchise VJ next year. If they can, they can still ask for a 1st and 3rd as compensation. A trading partner has to give AJ a reason not to gamble on better compensation.