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I think he is primed to become your #3 receiver on your dynast team this year.
As our resident Charger expert, I want to ask you a question. My buddy is a long time Charger fan and he is concerned that VJ is a potential TO type personality/attitude. I saw a little of this in the playoff game when he didn't dot the end of the end zone for a potential back breaker TD in the later part of the game. VJ gave the ref an attitude/look like the ref did something wrong and then acted out a little on the side line. VJ only had to concentrate and get that 2nd foot down, which didn't appear to be to difficult for the position he was in. Anyways, do you think he has a potential concentration or attitude problem that can hinder his development into a go to WR for Rivers?
Definitely not an attitude problem. Maybe a concentration problem. Not getting his second foot in on that play was an avoidable mistake. He also just flat out dropped an easy pass in the fourth quarter of that game. And remember the play against the Raiders when he caught the ball, fell to the ground untouched, and then got up and spiked it? That was a bad rookie mistake by a second-year player.So his concentration could have been better at times. Maybe his lapses were just due to inexperience and won't be a problem as he matures, or maybe he'll continue to make similar mistakes. Time will tell ...
These expectations are getting out of hand imo.I think the people expecting 60+/1000+/10+ for VJ fall into one of three categories;- Hopeful Charger fans- VJ dynasty owners that would like these #'s to be though of as "very possible"- The group of guys that fall in love with a WR because they disdain every other WR on the team and don't know enough about this guy to disdain him yet... so he's going to be a stud! (See: Matt Jones owners '06, Tyrone Calico owners '05).I don't think he comes anywhere close to the 70 receptions/1100 yards/12 TD's some are mentioning in this and other threads. If the WR situation stays exactly as it is now(which I doubt) then I'd look for a high side much closer to 50/800/8. Assuming they'll add a young guy and maybe a bench vet I'd knock those #'s down to 40/700/7. Finishing fourth in catches(Gates/Tomlinson/Parker) but probably second in yards. Receiving TD's are always tough to guess but Gates/Tomlinson will get theirs and Floyd will produce near the endzone and cut into VJ's TD #'s. Parker was pulled in short yardage situations by Cam but under Norv he could steal some of the pie as well.
Oops... sorry to be coming in late and repeating a recent topic.
I'm in this camp too. I can't see where 1000 yards and 10TD's are coming from?
I'm not going to say it will happen, but I can understand the projection. Last year, Jackson managed 453 yards and 6 TDs despite starting fewer than half of the games. Most of his production came in the last five or six games, so people think he is ready to contribute this way on a regular basis. It's not too far fetched.
He's more likely to have less receiving yards again than Eric Parker than to crack 1000 and 10.
I got him a month or two ago for Hines Ward.I like Hines, always have. I like Jackson's potential, but being around Gates and LT?? Not too many balls to go around. Plus with Turner possibley getting dealt. SD may look WR on the 1st day. That won't help VJ's numbers in the long run.
Adding to Maurile's post, VJax's dad was the principal of his high school (where VJax had a 4.2 GPA) and was an academic all american at Colorado St. So he's not the dumb thug type - he grew up in a household where education was stressed and he excelled in the classroom. He's a beast about to explode next season. Tomlinson's TDs will fall back to low 20s, and VJax will push double digits. He's a red zone monster and often the only WR on the field in the Bolts "Gold Package" (inside the 20).
Show me the APD and we'll talk. Off hand, I'd say Matt Jones, but there's risk with both.
You traded Ward for VJ? Doesn't seem like a good deal to me.
That's the type of stuff I'd like to hear. More of that will make me want to shop Jackson around!
He actually got Ward for Jackson, but the other owner initiated the trade deal.
That's part of my point...At this very moment there isn't much ADP to look at...so if your involved in leagues that are waking up from hibernation now...Where do you figure he fit's?I know the teams that own him are high, and the teams that don't are low.Nice too see the locals pitch in there .02
Yup. What he said.I almost didn't do it. My team wasn't a contender at the time of the deal. It came down to three factors for me and my situation.1. VJ is going to be at best the 3rd option in SD. Gates and LT will always be 1 and 1a. 2. My team has a good young up and comer in Brandon Marshall. 3. Hines has more trade value to most owners right now.
Devery Henderson...
; if Colston has any type of problem or the dread 2nd yr slump.. look out for this guyKevin Curtis... image Stallworth #s last yr w/ out the missed games....
Ok, for those leagues getting started, great. The two leagues I'm in, VJ is demanding a much higher price. One wanted Matt Jones, Mark Clayton and a 1st.
Yea. you are right. What blew me away though is I went back to look at your link and -Frank Gore- SIX- my five year old daughter can get a six- MAn he is dumb as a rock. Goes to show the tests are weird measureables.
Say what?? Surely that's not the going price. I mean, I have the guy and even I think that's way, WAY overpriced. He's probably worth an even up trade with one of those two guys, but anything more than that I think is too much.No one has even inquired about him in my league.
Gore has dyslexia. May explain it a little.http://www.dyslexia-adults.com/a54.html
mark Clayton will put up better numbers in the 2007 season for sure. Barring Season ending injurynoneother said:
Dang, he did pretty good then. Hell, I had to take the Wunderlic test for a Quality Control position at work. I scored 40. If I wasn't so old maybe I could play in the NFLtexasbirdfan said:
Homer Alert...but I think Santonio Holmes might have a pretty good year.
Interestingly, I have both Jones AND Jackson in a contract league, and probably only one slot available. I'll be watching this closely through the camps.
FWIW, In a 32 team league, I traded:VJax1.25, 3.25, 4.25forBraylon Edwards2.05Picks are in that range, can't remember exactly.I'd love to have kept him, but I worry about how many looks he'll get behine LT and Gates.
I agree.
I disagree. That's assuming the passing efficency remains the same as it was last year...one would think that both Jackson and Rivers will improve their efficiency.
Oh I see his upside. But given his ADP and production I dont think he represents the best value on draft day.LHUCKS said:
Your statement is misleading then.
