Waiver Problems In My League (1 Viewer)

[Skeletore Eh]

Problem in my league. The guy with the first waiver pick incorrectly entered his waiver claim for Brandon Jackson. He tried to request Jackson but didn't drop anyone, and since he had a full roster, his claim didn't go through. As a result the guy with the second waiver priority got Jackson.

We just found out about the situation this morning and now the guy with the first pick is complaining about not getting Jackson. If we go back and change the waivers so he gets Jackson, it impacts the guy with the second pick (who doesn't get Jackson but would then get Vick), the guy in the 10th spot (who doesn't get Vick but would then get Mark Clayton), and a second round waiver pick where another person would then not get Mark Clayton.

As you can see there are lots of repercussions. Can we even go back at this point? Would we have to retract the FCFS waiver picks that took place after waivers run? Or is the guy with the first pick just SOL?

Help?!?

 

[Road Warriors]

SOL, IMO. Waiver ran correctly, he didn't put in a valid claim. Live & learn. Consider it a teaching moment.

 

[JbizzleMan]

SOL....It's not that difficult.

 

[Sam Quentin]

I don't think you can go wrong wither way

Either rewind and replay or leave as is. Both courses of action are more than justifiable.

Based on my own experiences and the types of individuals in my leagues, I'd probably rewind and replay it.

 

[u999spf]

Like it was stated above. I would use it as teaching point. It will help him make sure to do it correctly each week for the next 5 years. This pickup isnt going to make or break his season anyway.

 

[NoCheese]

Clearly the guy made a mistake. I would ask him who he would like to drop and then run the claims as they were supposed to be processed as long as this info is still available. Owners would understand.

 

[The Jerk]

I don't think you can go wrong wither wayEither rewind and replay or leave as is. Both courses of action are more than justifiable.Based on my own experiences and the types of individuals in my leagues, I'd probably rewind and replay it.

I would add three "context" elements to this idea.1. Is there precedent for the league to manually reset and perform waiver wire activities in similar situations?2. Is this an inexperienced owner, a new league website, or a computer-challenged owner?3. How "hard core" is the league?Questions 1 and 3 might interrelate, but if these situations have been overridden by the commissioner in the past, I would suggest they do so again. Question 2 probably speaks for itself.As a two-league commish, I can tell you easily that in one league I would override so the "intent" was honored -- with explanation to other owners -- as there is precedent and while a serious league, it is not what I would call "hard core" to any extent. In the other league, it would be clearly SOL.There's a culture to any league that's been together for a few years, and the commissioner should hopefully be able to tap into that culture to inform his decision.

 

[Riffraff]

Had this sort of issue on waiver prior to week 1. It's the owner's responsibility to input waivers correctly.

In MFL, all the commish can see (if they turn on the abilities) is if the owner did indeed submit a drop player or selected "none." What they submit is recorded on their own transaction page and is at the top of the round 2 page after they submitted round 1. If they didn't verify their action, there's nothing you can do but follow the rules of your league.

 

[Sam Quentin]

to update my prior post

If your leaguemates are intelligent reasonable mature people - rewind

If they are whiny immature and not so bright - leave it as is.

In between - use your judgment as to which of these two extremes they are closer to.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I don't think you can go wrong wither wayEither rewind and replay or leave as is. Both courses of action are more than justifiable.Based on my own experiences and the types of individuals in my leagues, I'd probably rewind and replay it.

It's not that hard to back it out and run it again. Depends on the league, is the guy a newb etc.

 

[Godsbrother]

Unless he is new to the league or you are using a new site or new waiver process I would leave it as is.

Otherwise you may be doing this all season long.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

I don't think you can go wrong wither wayEither rewind and replay or leave as is. Both courses of action are more than justifiable.Based on my own experiences and the types of individuals in my leagues, I'd probably rewind and replay it.

It's not that hard to back it out and run it again. Depends on the league, is the guy a newb etc.

This is the third season we have been using MFL and he has been in the league all three years, having said that, he would be my vote for biggest newb in the league because he just doesn't care/ pay as much attention as others. It wouldn't have surprised me one bit if he didn't even put the claim in. That's what the rest of the league figured when he didn't claim Jackson when waivers ran.

 

[Birdie048]

It gives him a teaching moment he won't soon forget. Let it stand. His mistake, not the system.

If you go back and change it now, every time an issue of "mistake" comes up, you set the standard for going back to fix their errors.....

 

[The_Wolfman]

This is the third season we have been using MFL and he has been in the league all three years, having said that, he would be my vote for biggest newb in the league because he just doesn't care/ pay as much attention as others. It wouldn't have surprised me one bit if he didn't even put the claim in. That's what the rest of the league figured when he didn't claim Jackson when waivers ran.

That says it all right there. He's been in the league for 3 years so there is no excuse for not knowing how to use the software. He doesn't pay attention and this time it cost him. I would definitely not change it because it sets a precedent for owners to get away with being careless.

 

[Winky the tunnel ferret]

SOL, IMO. Waiver ran correctly, he didn't put in a valid claim. Live & learn. Consider it a teaching moment.

Is this how you want to win? On a technicality? Fix it and move on.b

 

[SharkBait]

I would leave it as is and openly mock and ridicule the guy that can't complete a simple waiver request. Was he hoping the system would magically remove his worst player? It would be my sincere hope that the guy then rage quits, further increasing the amusement of an already entertaining situation.

 

[bostonfred]

This is a gray area where it could be that the person tried to gain an advantage by not deciding who to drop - like the Grant owner in a redraft league - or it could be that they didn't understand how to set up waivers on the league website. I don't think you should let someone get away with the former, and I don't think you should penalize someone for the latter.

It's perfectly reasonable to take a hardline stance on this, but don't use the "you'll set the standar for going back" reason. Every issue comes up for the first time. When a first time issue comes up, we fix it and notify the league. If there are any questions, we add it to the rules and from here on out, we take the hardline stance.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Were the waiver instructions clearly posted? Has he done waivers before without an issue?

I think I would be inclined to give Jackson to the guy, although I would penalize him by allowing the league to vote on which of his players he has to drop.

edit: now that I see that he's been in the league for 3 years, I want to change my answer to "POUND SAND".

 

[Air Stich]

I say leave as is. I checked my waiver claim 3 times Tuesday night to make sure everything was in order. I'm also the commish of the league and I take a very hands off approach. I only step in if there is some sort of system error or mistake. Where do you draw the line on commissioner intervention?

 

[Mohawk]

Let it stand as is.

He screwed up, plain and simple.

Rules are there for a reason.

He'll learn from his mistake.

If you open that can of worms you'll have problems all year with people saying, "OOOPS! I made a mistake, I wanted so and so."

 

[Tybeeman]

I don't think you can go wrong wither way

Either rewind and replay or leave as is. Both courses of action are more than justifiable.

Based on my own experiences and the types of individuals in my leagues, I'd probably rewind and replay it.

It's not that hard to back it out and run it again. Depends on the league, is the guy a newb etc.

This is the third season we have been using MFL and he has been in the league all three years, having said that, he would be my vote for biggest newb in the league because he just doesn't care/ pay as much attention as others. It wouldn't have surprised me one bit if he didn't even put the claim in. That's what the rest of the league figured when he didn't claim Jackson when waivers ran.

Here lies your answer. He doesn't pay attention as much as others, so why redo it?

 

[Road Warriors]

SOL, IMO. Waiver ran correctly, he didn't put in a valid claim. Live & learn. Consider it a teaching moment.

Is this how you want to win? On a technicality? Fix it and move on.b

I don't consider this a technicality. I consider it each owners responsibility to manage their teams. It wasn't a system glitch, or anything other than the owner's sloppiness in making a waiver claim. As others have stated, he's not a newb ( been in the league on the same site/software for 3 years ). Its not the commissioners role to fix owner mistakes after the fact. He should learn to review his transactions and not make the same mistake again.

 

[Pickle Rody]

SOL. Live and learn. Lesson learned.....hopefully.

 

[jah2707]

I would say leave it as it is. I have been comish for 7 years now and we have one guy who always forgot to set his line up. First couple times I fixed it but then everyone thought I would be able to go in and fix there's. Caused to many problems so now I just say be smarter then the program. I know 3rd graders who play fantasy on yahoo if they can figure it out so can you.