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Betcha Cincy is the top scoring DST of the week. Played them in one league where I had no better options
and sat them for either Miami or Detroit in another. Sometimes it's better not to have so many options. 
They prob are. And you should be happy you started them. Just saying det will have their shotBetcha Cincy is the top scoring DST of the week. Played them in one league where I had no better options
Turned out well for you that Philly "O" forgot how to play after the first half pep talk by Andy Reid. WTFK, thanks. I'm satisfied with Cincy.13 points against in the 1st halfNot sure AZ gets that in all 4 quarters.IMO'Please See Mine said:Lions are certainly a good play, but not available in my league, so I wasn't really contending that CIN is a better play than DET. Just mentioning the positives for CIN.Mostly I need to figure out an option to my NYG DEF that's been good for me all year, but now will be playing against my own Ryan as well, so I'm trying to make the case for my own options. (sorry Phenix.)'BigDave said:I don't doubt what you said about Philly. However, I think they are a better offense than AZ. So, if I'm picking who will score the least amount of points on offense, my bet is it's AZ.As far as turnovers are concerned, they both have about the same opportunity. Cinn DB's & LB's had several opportunities last week against DAL to intercept Romo and couldn't hold onto the ball. Hopefully for you that might change against Philly.'Please See Mine said:Most of the Eagles' weapons are out or ailing. O Line is still in shambles.Foles had a nice comeback at the end of the game last week, but honestly did not look as good as the Cowboys' game, and that was against the worst pass D in the league. Plus Foles has a short week to get ready and as many have noted, Thursday night games have not been great for offenses.I am talking myself into Cincy a little bit, but I really think an aggressive Cincinnati defense can take advantage of the Eagles in this one.I have the same dilemma.I think Philly has been playing better as Foles has gotten more comfortable starting. Philly has weapons and can score. They are playing at home which helps. AZ is not going to lay another goose egg. They will score against Detroit. They will give Detroit plenty of turnover opportunities. Can Det. take advantage?My league gives 2 points for turnovers and up to 20 points for a shutout. My best guess is AZ scores less offensive points than Philly = Advantage DetroitBoth should have similar turnover chances. I'm sticking with DETROIT
I still have Detroit. We'll see if they can score more than the 19 points Cinn. scored tonight. Good luck with your team the rest of the way I picked them up to start them but some of the comments here are swaying me back to starting Seattle. FBG does have Detroit as the #1 DST this week though.
I will be glad I started the Bengals over DetroitThey prob are. And you should be happy you started them. Just saying det will have their shotBetcha Cincy is the top scoring DST of the week. Played them in one league where I had no better options
I have (had) the same decision to make and I'm confidently (ok, 90%) rolling out Miami home vs Jax rather than Detroit on the road vs. ARI.
I own all 4 of these defenses. Lol (had 2, picked up 2 others to block opponents from doing so)I'm rolling with Miami.
Pretty happy that I switched out NE for Cincy at 8:19. Even if NE scores more I'm very happy with the 17 pts I got last night.
If you're going to use lines to pick defenses, why not include the over/under? Isn't that an important consideration when looking at D?
FFG has a great tool to quickly see, points allowed up to opposing defenses.For example, last 6 weeks points given up by the Eagles, 9,10,10, 13,20,19. Meanwhile the Bengals D has scored, 10, 16, 16, 15, 22, 6.So why was Cincy ranked in the 15 again? Cincy was a much smarter play than the Rams or Lions who are in the top 3.
what tool are you talking about?
Definitely. I find the over/under is one of the most useful predictors out there.
I often use it as the deciding factor for players I think are similar. I'll go with the player Vegas projects to be in the higher-scoring game or in this case the defense they expect to be in the lower-scoring game.
Makes more sense than looking at the spread. Spread would make teams like the Patriots seem like the #1 defense.
Detroit D is fools gold this week. Their secondary is worst than last year. And last year second string QBs and WRs were setting franchise passing records against them. Their special teams play is horrible. And the Detroit offense has zero ability to slow the game down. Even AZ will be able to put up points. AZ will lose, but they will put up points.This is why I went Cincy in 3 leagues this week.
would you rather play GB over them?
I don't think so. If I had to choose between GB and Det I'd probably pick Det and hope AZ melts down. Just keep in mind that playing Det you have a chance at exactly 0 defensive touchdowns and only limited interception opportunities. You're basically hoping AZ puts up no points and Det gets a bunch of sacks.'need2know said:
I agree with Miami. I think the Titans D is also a good start this week. As for Detroit, Stafford basically has Megatron this week and that's it. Detroit has lost 5 in a row. Arizona 9 in a row. Neither team has anything to play for except pride. I'm staying away from this one. But if I had to pick, I would play the Arizona D over the Detroit D.'Chubbs said:
Good post. I do the same thing when trying to decide on DSTs.'Chubbs said:
why 0 def tds? STL took 2 picks to the house against the cards a couple weeks ago
I found it by accident and don't know how to link right to it.If you go to: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/myfbg/my.php'Horses Mouth said:
Based off their defensive performance and special teams performance all year. Their special teams are horrendous. No way Stefan Logan is running a return back. They've got one of the worst secondaries in the league. It's been plagued with injuries all year and wasn't very good to begin with. So you'll be lucky to get 1 interception, let alone a pick six. So you're only hope is that the defensive line forces a fumble and someone like Avril or Suh runs the fumble in. But they haven't come close to doing that all year. So 0 chance at defensive touchdowns from Detroit. You're basically hoping for very low scoring from AZ and lots of sacks.
Good points. My league does not reward return stats so I don't care about kickoffs or punts. Hopefully they are due for a def td. Is fairley playing?
There must be a lot of people with that dilemma this week. At the moment I have the Rams in over the Broncos but it's such a difficult decision.
Not confident, but probably rolling them out, mainly because I don't want to carry 2 D/STs. Detroit is my other option, and I'm very torn between the two.Sherman's appeal was delayed again, so he gets to play at least one more week. Also, FWIW, he's pretty insistent that he's innocent. That could be all talk, but it might be legit, or at least suggest that his case is tricky enough for the appeal to take us past week 16.'HurryUpSundays said:
The Seattle D home/road splits are pretty telling. They haven't put up big numbers on D on the road and usually play much better at home. You could say the same thing about most defenses, but especially Seattle. That said, the Detroit D is horrible. There is no way I would bench Seattle for Detroit, even at Arizona. The Rams D is another tough choice this week. It's hard to start any D against Adrian Peterson. I think if you have Seattle, you have to play them. This is a very good team overall and Buffalo will probably give up some sacks and a couple of turnovers.
Same here. Really went back and forth between Cincy and Miami ...didn't start Cincy, based on the improvement that Foles has made over the past 3 weeks (not just his performance against a terrible pass D). So he doesn't turn it over and the rest of the team plays fumblerooksi. I was feeling pretty good about not starting them through half-time. Just a really flukey game. Please go Miami D.Betcha Cincy is the top scoring DST of the week. Played them in one league where I had no better options
Bump the Brownies, but by how much?!
Top 5?
Right game, wrong team.I whiffed on Rams.
As did I. Bad time to get negative points from my D.I whiffed on Rams.
Lots of us made this poor decision. FF is fun.I whiffed on Rams.
Not really their D that's screwing you...Blame their O and ST.
