wannabee Strategy Thread (2 Viewers)

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff, thanks for your advice last week. Got some more Q's to fire at you pre-waiver.Again the WR's and RB's on my team and what I'm thinking of doing.RB: Peterson, Jackson, Bradshaw, Lynch, WardWR: Smith (Car), White, Bryant, Josh MorganWaiver Wire WR's that I'm looking at/how I have them ranked:ManninghamL. RobinsonSims-WalkerStuckeyB. WadeStovallKnoxWas thinking of dropping Morgan, Ward, or both for some WR's, Am I on crack/completely off here? Suspect Manningham/Robinson will be gone by my waiver.Thanks again for all of your help.

I like Morgan and Sims-Walker equally. But, would easily drop Morgan for either Manningham or Robinson. Manningham looks very good, and LRob is showing well.

 

[packfan482]

Jeff, I am wanting to trade for a WR since Royal has not been producing and because of the fact that he has the same bye week as Bowe my #2 WR. I am targeting V Jackson and was wondering if you think Reggie Bush for him is a legitimate offer. The guy in my league that has VJax has a thing for Bush.

10 team keep 3 league.

Start: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 FLEX RB, WR

Scoring: Non PPR, Passing TDs 4 points, all others 6 points. 10 yards rushing/receiving is worth 1 point.

Roster as it pertains to this question:

RB: C Johnson, Deangelo, K Smith, R Bush, F Jones, C Taylor

WR: R Moss, Bowe, Royal, Avery

His roster:

RB: Slaton, R Brown, T Jones, F Jackson, R Williams, Mcgahee

WR: Jennings, Marshall, V Jackson, Evans, Coles, Heyward -Bey( he started Jennings and Marshall first 2 weeks)

Thanks in advance!

 

[atcdav]

Hi Jeff. this is a 14 team redraft. we start 1rb, 3wr/te and a rb/wr/te flex. we get return TDs but not return yds and no-ppr

I was offered Eddie Royal and give Felix Jones

i have Gore, Rice, Felix Jones, M.Bush, coffee and lynch

for wrs/tes i have Calvin Johnson, A.Bryant, Carlson, Winslow, Murphy, schilens.

so given the max number of rbs we can start is 2, i feel rb heavy. if this was week one, trade would be a no brainer. But now we see fred jackson doing very well and royal invisible, i am less optimistic on lynch and royal. right now I have zero chance to pick up Sims-Walker or Knox or Stokley or probably any of the popular waiver pick ups this week. If I make the trade it is possible I could try to include the 3rd waiver pick the royal owner has. not sure though. I was considering starting jones this week en lieu of rice if barber is out.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff, I am wanting to trade for a WR since Royal has not been producing and because of the fact that he has the same bye week as Bowe my #2 WR. I am targeting V Jackson and was wondering if you think Reggie Bush for him is a legitimate offer. The guy in my league that has VJax has a thing for Bush.Start: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 FLEX RB, WRScoring: Non PPR, Passing TDs 4 points, all others 6 points. 10 yards rushing/receiving is worth 1 point.Roster as it pertains to this question:RB: C Johnson, Deangelo, K Smith, R Bush, F Jones, C TaylorWR: R Moss, Bowe, Royal, AveryHis roster:RB: Slaton, R Brown, T Jones, F Jackson, R Williams, McgaheeWR: Jennings, Marshall, V Jackson, Evans, Coles, Heyward -Bey( he started Jennings and Marshall first 2 weeks)Thanks in advance!

I think Bush for VJax is a decent offer. You can always remind the other owner how the other two backs in NO are/have been hurt (Thomas and Bell). If he balks, you could probably add Avery

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hi Jeff. this is a 14 team redraft. we start 1rb, 3wr/te and a rb/wr/te flex. we get return TDs but not return yds and no-pprI was offered Eddie Royal and give Felix Jonesi have Gore, Rice, Felix Jones, M.Bush, coffee and lynchfor wrs/tes i have Calvin Johnson, A.Bryant, Carlson, Winslow, Murphy, schilens. so given the max number of rbs we can start is 2, i feel rb heavy. if this was week one, trade would be a no brainer. But now we see fred jackson doing very well and royal invisible, i am less optimistic on lynch and royal. right now I have zero chance to pick up Sims-Walker or Knox or Stokley or probably any of the popular waiver pick ups this week. If I make the trade it is possible I could try to include the 3rd waiver pick the royal owner has. not sure though. I was considering starting jones this week en lieu of rice if barber is out.

I do not htink I would do this deal. I know you are hurting at WR/TE, What waiver position are you? Also, I think I might entertain the thought of moving Lynch/Bryant for a top WR. You could then hodgepodge RB2

 

[atcdav]

Hi Jeff. this is a 14 team redraft. we start 1rb, 3wr/te and a rb/wr/te flex. we get return TDs but not return yds and no-pprI was offered Eddie Royal and give Felix Jonesi have Gore, Rice, Felix Jones, M.Bush, coffee and lynchfor wrs/tes i have Calvin Johnson, A.Bryant, Carlson, Winslow, Murphy, schilens. so given the max number of rbs we can start is 2, i feel rb heavy. if this was week one, trade would be a no brainer. But now we see fred jackson doing very well and royal invisible, i am less optimistic on lynch and royal. right now I have zero chance to pick up Sims-Walker or Knox or Stokley or probably any of the popular waiver pick ups this week. If I make the trade it is possible I could try to include the 3rd waiver pick the royal owner has. not sure though. I was considering starting jones this week en lieu of rice if barber is out.

I do not htink I would do this deal. I know you are hurting at WR/TE, What waiver position are you? Also, I think I might entertain the thought of moving Lynch/Bryant for a top WR. You could then hodgepodge RB2

i am picking 12 of the 14 teams

 

[atcdav]

Hi Jeff. this is a 14 team redraft. we start 1rb, 3wr/te and a rb/wr/te flex. we get return TDs but not return yds and no-pprI was offered Eddie Royal and give Felix Jonesi have Gore, Rice, Felix Jones, M.Bush, coffee and lynchfor wrs/tes i have Calvin Johnson, A.Bryant, Carlson, Winslow, Murphy, schilens. so given the max number of rbs we can start is 2, i feel rb heavy. if this was week one, trade would be a no brainer. But now we see fred jackson doing very well and royal invisible, i am less optimistic on lynch and royal. right now I have zero chance to pick up Sims-Walker or Knox or Stokley or probably any of the popular waiver pick ups this week. If I make the trade it is possible I could try to include the 3rd waiver pick the royal owner has. not sure though. I was considering starting jones this week en lieu of rice if barber is out.

I do not htink I would do this deal. I know you are hurting at WR/TE, What waiver position are you? Also, I think I might entertain the thought of moving Lynch/Bryant for a top WR. You could then hodgepodge RB2

i am picking 12 of the 14 teams

would you consider Jennings a top WR. I have him at 6 predraft. the fred jackson owner has jennings

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hi Jeff. this is a 14 team redraft. we start 1rb, 3wr/te and a rb/wr/te flex. we get return TDs but not return yds and no-pprI was offered Eddie Royal and give Felix Jonesi have Gore, Rice, Felix Jones, M.Bush, coffee and lynchfor wrs/tes i have Calvin Johnson, A.Bryant, Carlson, Winslow, Murphy, schilens. so given the max number of rbs we can start is 2, i feel rb heavy. if this was week one, trade would be a no brainer. But now we see fred jackson doing very well and royal invisible, i am less optimistic on lynch and royal. right now I have zero chance to pick up Sims-Walker or Knox or Stokley or probably any of the popular waiver pick ups this week. If I make the trade it is possible I could try to include the 3rd waiver pick the royal owner has. not sure though. I was considering starting jones this week en lieu of rice if barber is out.

I do not htink I would do this deal. I know you are hurting at WR/TE, What waiver position are you? Also, I think I might entertain the thought of moving Lynch/Bryant for a top WR. You could then hodgepodge RB2

i am picking 12 of the 14 teams

would you consider Jennings a top WR. I have him at 6 predraft. the fred jackson owner has jennings

would love jennings. I think he is easily top wr. If not, is there a chance Edelman is available for your waiver pick?

 

[atcdav]

Hi Jeff. this is a 14 team redraft. we start 1rb, 3wr/te and a rb/wr/te flex. we get return TDs but not return yds and no-pprI was offered Eddie Royal and give Felix Jonesi have Gore, Rice, Felix Jones, M.Bush, coffee and lynchfor wrs/tes i have Calvin Johnson, A.Bryant, Carlson, Winslow, Murphy, schilens. so given the max number of rbs we can start is 2, i feel rb heavy. if this was week one, trade would be a no brainer. But now we see fred jackson doing very well and royal invisible, i am less optimistic on lynch and royal. right now I have zero chance to pick up Sims-Walker or Knox or Stokley or probably any of the popular waiver pick ups this week. If I make the trade it is possible I could try to include the 3rd waiver pick the royal owner has. not sure though. I was considering starting jones this week en lieu of rice if barber is out.

I do not htink I would do this deal. I know you are hurting at WR/TE, What waiver position are you? Also, I think I might entertain the thought of moving Lynch/Bryant for a top WR. You could then hodgepodge RB2

i am picking 12 of the 14 teams

would you consider Jennings a top WR. I have him at 6 predraft. the fred jackson owner has jennings

would love jennings. I think he is easily top wr. If not, is there a chance Edelman is available for your waiver pick?

edelmann is out there, i would guess, he might drop to me. would you start him over my others until welker returns?

 

[oscarz]

Hey Jeff in a PPR league would you try to trade Brent Celek TE Philly for RB Lynch Buffalo?

Thanks

 

[Leo2228]

Jeff Which one do you like this weekJustin Gage @ NYJB Edwards @ BAL

That is a tough one. I do not like BE with Quinn throwing him the ball. He dinks and dunks while Edwards likes passes down the field. I know that Gage is streaky. If you start Edwards, you are hoping for a TD, and little yards. Gage is the safer pick. I think I would go with Gage. I expect NYJ to control the Tenn RBs enough and make Collins beat them.

what Do you think about the JET wr name Chansi Stuckey ?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

edelmann is out there, i would guess, he might drop to me. would you start him over my others until welker returns?

yes, depending on matchups. he played well even vs nyj

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff in a PPR league would you try to trade Brent Celek TE Philly for RB Lynch Buffalo?Thanks

in a heartbeat, especially if i had another decent tight end

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff Which one do you like this weekJustin Gage @ NYJB Edwards @ BAL

That is a tough one. I do not like BE with Quinn throwing him the ball. He dinks and dunks while Edwards likes passes down the field. I know that Gage is streaky. If you start Edwards, you are hoping for a TD, and little yards. Gage is the safer pick. I think I would go with Gage. I expect NYJ to control the Tenn RBs enough and make Collins beat them.

Do you think about the JET wr name Chansi Stuckey ?

Stuckey is ok. He had a TD called back this past week. I am not a huge fan, unless in PPR leagues. He is a decent spot starter some weeks, but I would hate to rely on him

 

[atcdav]

last q for tonight

in another league, i am dropping crabtree for sims-walker or knox. which do you like better? or some other WR, I pick 3rd on waivers tonight. also I have morgan, should i drop morgan instead and give crabtree more time?

manningham will be gone, mi. clayton is gone

 

[Leo2228]

Jeff Which one do you like this weekJustin Gage @ NYJB Edwards @ BAL

That is a tough one. I do not like BE with Quinn throwing him the ball. He dinks and dunks while Edwards likes passes down the field. I know that Gage is streaky. If you start Edwards, you are hoping for a TD, and little yards. Gage is the safer pick. I think I would go with Gage. I expect NYJ to control the Tenn RBs enough and make Collins beat them.

Do you think about the JET wr name Chansi Stuckey ?

Stuckey is ok. He had a TD called back this past week. I am not a huge fan, unless in PPR leagues. He is a decent spot starter some weeks, but I would hate to rely on him

I will try to pick up L Robinson I am 7th on ww you think he is better than Stuckey right ?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

last q for tonightin another league, i am dropping crabtree for sims-walker or knox. which do you like better? or some other WR, I pick 3rd on waivers tonight. also I have morgan, should i drop morgan instead and give crabtree more time?manningham will be gone, mi. clayton is gone

I would order them:ManninghamKnoxSims-WalkerI trust nox/Cutler more than the Jax passing game.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff Which one do you like this weekJustin Gage @ NYJB Edwards @ BAL

That is a tough one. I do not like BE with Quinn throwing him the ball. He dinks and dunks while Edwards likes passes down the field. I know that Gage is streaky. If you start Edwards, you are hoping for a TD, and little yards. Gage is the safer pick. I think I would go with Gage. I expect NYJ to control the Tenn RBs enough and make Collins beat them.

Do you think about the JET wr name Chansi Stuckey ?

Stuckey is ok. He had a TD called back this past week. I am not a huge fan, unless in PPR leagues. He is a decent spot starter some weeks, but I would hate to rely on him

I will try to pick up L Robinson I am 7th on ww you think he is better than Stuckey right ?

definitely

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

heading to bed early tonight. I will be around tomorrow. Have a good evening.

 

[Leo2228]

do you like Sims walker over L Robinson i got my ww in for Robinson

 

[tate516]

Somebody dropped Tedd Ginn...would you drop Mason for him?

I am making the assumption that you like Ginn more than the Knox, right?

I hope too hear before he gets scooped....as always THANKS!

 

[platapie]

Hey Jeff, thanks for your advice last week. Got some more Q's to fire at you pre-waiver.Again the WR's and RB's on my team and what I'm thinking of doing.RB: Peterson, Jackson, Bradshaw, Lynch, WardWR: Smith (Car), White, Bryant, Josh MorganWaiver Wire WR's that I'm looking at/how I have them ranked:ManninghamL. RobinsonSims-WalkerStuckeyB. WadeStovallKnoxWas thinking of dropping Morgan, Ward, or both for some WR's, Am I on crack/completely off here? Suspect Manningham/Robinson will be gone by my waiver.Thanks again for all of your help.

I like Morgan and Sims-Walker equally. But, would easily drop Morgan for either Manningham or Robinson. Manningham looks very good, and LRob is showing well.

I landed Robinson on waivers (my league isn't very serious and as you can tell by all of my questions, I don't really know F all either). Only Manningham/Knox are gone from the list above. I'm really high on Sims-walker, but I'm not sure letting either Bradshaw or Ward go for him is worth it. The reason I ask is that I have pretty good RB's with AP/Jackson/Lynch really making up my top two, so rarely do Bradshaw or Ward get into a game for me. Am I overreacting? Should I just keep the RB's/my WR situation and chill, or make a play for more WR depth?Thanks again for all of your help, it's amazing how much time you dedicate to this.

 

[eddie077]

Jeff,

Quick question

I have Josh Morgan and I put a move in to cut him for Sims-Walker

Manningham and Knox I won't get.

Should I leave it in or retract it (i.e. who do you like better for the season)

I realize neither are in a passing offense but which one is more likely to really show something this season?

Thanks as always

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

do you like Sims walker over L Robinson i got my ww in for Robinson

I would keep LRob

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Somebody dropped Tedd Ginn...would you drop Mason for him?

I am making the assumption that you like Ginn more than the Knox, right?

I hope too hear before he gets scooped....as always THANKS!

I would prefer Mason over Ginn. I do not trust him/Ginn

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff, thanks for your advice last week. Got some more Q's to fire at you pre-waiver.Again the WR's and RB's on my team and what I'm thinking of doing.RB: Peterson, Jackson, Bradshaw, Lynch, WardWR: Smith (Car), White, Bryant, Josh MorganWaiver Wire WR's that I'm looking at/how I have them ranked:ManninghamL. RobinsonSims-WalkerStuckeyB. WadeStovallKnoxWas thinking of dropping Morgan, Ward, or both for some WR's, Am I on crack/completely off here? Suspect Manningham/Robinson will be gone by my waiver.Thanks again for all of your help.

I like Morgan and Sims-Walker equally. But, would easily drop Morgan for either Manningham or Robinson. Manningham looks very good, and LRob is showing well.

I landed Robinson on waivers (my league isn't very serious and as you can tell by all of my questions, I don't really know F all either). Only Manningham/Knox are gone from the list above. I'm really high on Sims-walker, but I'm not sure letting either Bradshaw or Ward go for him is worth it. The reason I ask is that I have pretty good RB's with AP/Jackson/Lynch really making up my top two, so rarely do Bradshaw or Ward get into a game for me. Am I overreacting? Should I just keep the RB's/my WR situation and chill, or make a play for more WR depth?Thanks again for all of your help, it's amazing how much time you dedicate to this.

If you like Sims-Walker a lot, dump Robinson for him. But, I would keep all of the RBs. Injuries will happen at RB. It is a long season

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff,Quick questionI have Josh Morgan and I put a move in to cut him for Sims-WalkerManningham and Knox I won't get.Should I leave it in or retract it (i.e. who do you like better for the season)I realize neither are in a passing offense but which one is more likely to really show something this season?Thanks as always

I like Morgan, but there are many that like Sims-Walker. My only issue with him is that he got all of his stats in garbage time. But, to be fair, Morgan had no receptions. It is a low risk move. Pick up Sims-Walker and see what happens.

 

[dmac37]

That was my idea, not an offer. He just now offered:Fitz & 2 throw insforBrown, Benson, Cotchery and my 2ndI will not do this, I think my team is too strong right now to give up 3 starter type players even though I'm deep. Would you? but thinking of countering with:Brown, Cadillac and my 1st round pickor if he says no Brown Cadillac and CotcheryWhat do you think?

I might try either of those options or Brown/Benson/1st with the assumption that the 1st is close to Cotch. If you can get it done with Caddy instead of Benson, all the better.

OK Jeff it has come down to this:Brown, Cotchery and my first round pick for Fitz. Pick should be in the bottom 2-3 of the 1st round.My RB's and WR's:Benson, Cedric CIN RB Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Hillis, Peyton DEN RB Jackson, Brandon GBP RB Peterson, Adrian MIN RB Rice, Ray BAL RB Ringer, Javon TEN RB Williams, Carnell TBB RB Clayton, Mark BAL WR Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR Dillard, Jarett JAC WR Driver, Donald GBP WR Gage, Justin TEN WR Hester, Devin CHI WR Johnson, Andre HOU WR Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR Sims-Walker, Mike JAC WR

 

[Leo2228]

Jeff i have Austin Miles on my bench is he worth holding on to or should i pick up

Mike Sims walker

or

Chansi Stuckey

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff i have Austin Miles on my bench is he worth holding on to or should i pick up Mike Sims walker orChansi Stuckey

I woudl keep Austin over MSW or Stuckey. I like MSW more than Stuckey, but Austin has a lot of upside

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

That was my idea, not an offer. He just now offered:Fitz & 2 throw insforBrown, Benson, Cotchery and my 2ndI will not do this, I think my team is too strong right now to give up 3 starter type players even though I'm deep. Would you? but thinking of countering with:Brown, Cadillac and my 1st round pickor if he says no Brown Cadillac and CotcheryWhat do you think?

I might try either of those options or Brown/Benson/1st with the assumption that the 1st is close to Cotch. If you can get it done with Caddy instead of Benson, all the better.

OK Jeff it has come down to this:Brown, Cotchery and my first round pick for Fitz. Pick should be in the bottom 2-3 of the 1st round.My RB's and WR's:Benson, Cedric CIN RB Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Hillis, Peyton DEN RB Jackson, Brandon GBP RB Peterson, Adrian MIN RB Rice, Ray BAL RB Ringer, Javon TEN RB Williams, Carnell TBB RB Clayton, Mark BAL WR Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR Dillard, Jarett JAC WR Driver, Donald GBP WR Gage, Justin TEN WR Hester, Devin CHI WR Johnson, Andre HOU WR Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR Sims-Walker, Mike JAC WR

I think that is still a fair price, but I do not like it for your team. I think Brown/Cotch could get you an elite WR (other than Calvin, Fitz, AJ). You have a good team. There is no need messing with what could be a championship team when you have this good of starters.

 

[Casper05]

Hey Jeff- I posted this in the "Trader Joe" thread as well, hope you guys don't mind!

My roster is below.

My general question is how should owners weigh the "win now" attitude in a dynasty versus building for the future. For instance, I have an offer on the table that is basically Chad Johnson for Darren McFadden. While I know this is a great deal for me as far as "value", but I also feel that my relative advantage at the WR position would be severely crippled in what could be a championship year. DMC is better, possibly much better, in the long term, but 85 helps me when now. What should I do?

10 Team Dynasty, non PPR

Passing- 4/td, 1/20 yds

Rushing/Recieving- 6/td, 1/10 yds

Defense- 5/int, 2/tack, 1/asst, 4/sack

QB (1)- Peyton Manning, Roethlisberger

RB (2)- Peterson, Turner, Bush, Sproles, Norwood, Shonn Greene (redshirt)

WR (3)- Calvin Johnson, Smith (Car), Ocho Cinco, L. Moore, Smith (NYG), Manningham

DL (2)- Osi, Smith (NO), Grant (NO), Abraham

LB (3)- Vilma, Harrison, Harris, Durant, Crowder, Timmons, Curry, Pierce, Kampman (redshirt)

DB (2)- Harper, Sanders, Marshall

 

[dmac37]

That was my idea, not an offer. He just now offered:

Fitz & 2 throw ins

for

Brown, Benson, Cotchery and my 2nd

I will not do this, I think my team is too strong right now to give up 3 starter type players even though I'm deep. Would you?

but thinking of countering with:

Brown, Cadillac and my 1st round pick

or if he says no

Brown Cadillac and Cotchery

What do you think?

I might try either of those options or Brown/Benson/1st with the assumption that the 1st is close to Cotch. If you can get it done with Caddy instead of Benson, all the better.

OK Jeff it has come down to this:Brown, Cotchery and my first round pick for Fitz. Pick should be in the bottom 2-3 of the 1st round.

My RB's and WR's:

Benson, Cedric CIN RB

Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB

Brown, Ronnie MIA RB

Hillis, Peyton DEN RB

Jackson, Brandon GBP RB

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB

Rice, Ray BAL RB

Ringer, Javon TEN RB

Williams, Carnell TBB RB

Clayton, Mark BAL WR

Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR

Dillard, Jarett JAC WR

Driver, Donald GBP WR

Gage, Justin TEN WR

Hester, Devin CHI WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR

Sims-Walker, Mike JAC WR

I think that is still a fair price, but I do not like it for your team. I think Brown/Cotch could get you an elite WR (other than Calvin, Fitz, AJ). You have a good team. There is no need messing with what could be a championship team when you have this good of starters.

Jeff- not sure I follow what your saying "I think Brown/Cotch could get you an elite WR (other than Calvin, Fitz, AJ)". It would be Brown/Cotch for Fitz.Bottom line is do I have enough depth and a #2RB to get rid of Brown? Is he that much better than Rice, Benson, Caddy and Bradshaw?

Talent wise yes but I think he will always split with Ricky and will they EVER run as much as Monday night?

Like you stated my concern is messing with my team when I'm at the top vs the rule of most trades- he who gets the best player usually wins.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey, this is an interesting question. You ask 10 people and you will get 10 answers. I will try to address this froma few angles. If we look at avg career length, each player probably has the same number of yrs left. Few RBs make it to 27 or 28 as starters. You have the WR depth to make the deal if you like McFadden. He is a good young runner that is discounted a little because of no PPR. Bush is the goal line RB in OAK. If you like McFadden, then I think you should go for it. You have the NYG WRs and Moore to cover the loss. But, I do think that WRs over 30 get a bum rap. Chad should still have 2-3 yrs of top production left. McFadden is a polarizing player. Some love him, some don't. By the offer, I am assuming the other owning is giving up on McFadden and you could probably get more out of the deal if you were so inclined.

Hey Jeff- I posted this in the "Trader Joe" thread as well, hope you guys don't mind!My roster is below.My general question is how should owners weigh the "win now" attitude in a dynasty versus building for the future. For instance, I have an offer on the table that is basically Chad Johnson for Darren McFadden. While I know this is a great deal for me as far as "value", but I also feel that my relative advantage at the WR position would be severely crippled in what could be a championship year. DMC is better, possibly much better, in the long term, but 85 helps me when now. What should I do?10 Team Dynasty, non PPRPassing- 4/td, 1/20 ydsRushing/Recieving- 6/td, 1/10 ydsDefense- 5/int, 2/tack, 1/asst, 4/sackQB (1)- Peyton Manning, RoethlisbergerRB (2)- Peterson, Turner, Bush, Sproles, Norwood, Shonn Greene (redshirt)WR (3)- Calvin Johnson, Smith (Car), Ocho Cinco, L. Moore, Smith (NYG), ManninghamDL (2)- Osi, Smith (NO), Grant (NO), AbrahamLB (3)- Vilma, Harrison, Harris, Durant, Crowder, Timmons, Curry, Pierce, Kampman (redshirt)DB (2)- Harper, Sanders, Marshall

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

That was my idea, not an offer. He just now offered:

Fitz & 2 throw ins

for

Brown, Benson, Cotchery and my 2nd

I will not do this, I think my team is too strong right now to give up 3 starter type players even though I'm deep. Would you?

but thinking of countering with:

Brown, Cadillac and my 1st round pick

or if he says no

Brown Cadillac and Cotchery

What do you think?

I might try either of those options or Brown/Benson/1st with the assumption that the 1st is close to Cotch. If you can get it done with Caddy instead of Benson, all the better.

OK Jeff it has come down to this:Brown, Cotchery and my first round pick for Fitz. Pick should be in the bottom 2-3 of the 1st round.

My RB's and WR's:

Benson, Cedric CIN RB

Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB

Brown, Ronnie MIA RB

Hillis, Peyton DEN RB

Jackson, Brandon GBP RB

Peterson, Adrian MIN RB

Rice, Ray BAL RB

Ringer, Javon TEN RB

Williams, Carnell TBB RB

Clayton, Mark BAL WR

Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR

Dillard, Jarett JAC WR

Driver, Donald GBP WR

Gage, Justin TEN WR

Hester, Devin CHI WR

Johnson, Andre HOU WR

Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR

Sims-Walker, Mike JAC WR

I think that is still a fair price, but I do not like it for your team. I think Brown/Cotch could get you an elite WR (other than Calvin, Fitz, AJ). You have a good team. There is no need messing with what could be a championship team when you have this good of starters.

Jeff- not sure I follow what your saying "I think Brown/Cotch could get you an elite WR (other than Calvin, Fitz, AJ)". It would be Brown/Cotch for Fitz.Bottom line is do I have enough depth and a #2RB to get rid of Brown? Is he that much better than Rice, Benson, Caddy and Bradshaw?

Talent wise yes but I think he will always split with Ricky and will they EVER run as much as Monday night?

Like you stated my concern is messing with my team when I'm at the top vs the rule of most trades- he who gets the best player usually wins.

Even though I own Fitz in a couple of leagues, I think he and Calvin are overvalued for dynasty leagues. Most dynasty owners look at a 3ish year window for predicting success. Given this, Fitz and Calvin's price is inflated because it is assumed they will play another 10 years. You could get Randy Moss for roughly half what Fitz/Calvin cost. For instance, in a PPR dynasty I am in, the Calvin owner traded him for Moss/Colston (he traded Calvin for Colston and pieces, then traded pieces for Moss). The pieces were picks and players like Ray Rice. All were solid deals for both sides, but it illustrates how much more Fitz/Calvin are worth comparatively. I know you have very good depth. But, I would feel much more comfortable giving the Benson/Caddy/Hester types than a solid RB2/WR2/1st. The value still is on your side if you do the deal. My only issue is that I would hate to see you do the deal, lose a starter, and it affect your record.

 

[Casper05]

Hey, this is an interesting question. You ask 10 people and you will get 10 answers. I will try to address this froma few angles. If we look at avg career length, each player probably has the same number of yrs left. Few RBs make it to 27 or 28 as starters. You have the WR depth to make the deal if you like McFadden. He is a good young runner that is discounted a little because of no PPR. Bush is the goal line RB in OAK. If you like McFadden, then I think you should go for it. You have the NYG WRs and Moore to cover the loss. But, I do think that WRs over 30 get a bum rap. Chad should still have 2-3 yrs of top production left. McFadden is a polarizing player. Some love him, some don't. By the offer, I am assuming the other owning is giving up on McFadden and you could probably get more out of the deal if you were so inclined.

Hey Jeff- I posted this in the "Trader Joe" thread as well, hope you guys don't mind!My roster is below.My general question is how should owners weigh the "win now" attitude in a dynasty versus building for the future. For instance, I have an offer on the table that is basically Chad Johnson for Darren McFadden. While I know this is a great deal for me as far as "value", but I also feel that my relative advantage at the WR position would be severely crippled in what could be a championship year. DMC is better, possibly much better, in the long term, but 85 helps me when now. What should I do?10 Team Dynasty, non PPRPassing- 4/td, 1/20 ydsRushing/Recieving- 6/td, 1/10 ydsDefense- 5/int, 2/tack, 1/asst, 4/sackQB (1)- Peyton Manning, RoethlisbergerRB (2)- Peterson, Turner, Bush, Sproles, Norwood, Shonn Greene (redshirt)WR (3)- Calvin Johnson, Smith (Car), Ocho Cinco, L. Moore, Smith (NYG), ManninghamDL (2)- Osi, Smith (NO), Grant (NO), AbrahamLB (3)- Vilma, Harrison, Harris, Durant, Crowder, Timmons, Curry, Pierce, Kampman (redshirt)DB (2)- Harper, Sanders, Marshall

Yes this is pretty much the case. He has 8 RBs rostered and was just waiting to see who he wanted to keep around. He also has M. Bush, so that could be one option. Bush and DMC for 85.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

off for a while. will be around later tonight

 

[rascal]

Had to delete our previous discussion....

My team (start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, K, D with standard scoring-non ppr):

McNabb, T Edwards

LT, SJax, Lynch, Moreno, D Brown, L McCoy

R White, M Colston, B Edwards, H Ward, D Mason

Folk

Giants D

I was attempting to get Manningham, Robinson, or Sims-Walker in waivers and/or trade for Fred Jackson.

Unfortuantely I wasn't able to get any of my waiver wire targets, and my last offer of Mason and Brown for Fred Jackson and his worst WR was rejected. I think I've given up getting Jackson as I've reached the point that I'm not willing to offer any more for Fred Jackson. I don't care about Mason, in fact I plan to drop him, but anything else he would want (McCoy or Ward) would be too much for me to give up IMO.

However, Earl Bennett was dropped and Johnny Knox, Julian Edelman, Chansi Stuckey, Donald Avery, Brandon Stokley, Justin Gage, Ricky Williams, and Michael Bush are all available.

I'm starting SJax, Moreno, R White, Colston, and H Ward. But unsure on my two flex spots (current bench options B Edwards, D Mason, D Brown, L McCoy).

Do you think any of the FAs listed above would be better starts than my four options? I'm not sure of all these options which two I should start this week.

Thanks for the help!

 

[Chunky Soup]

Jeff, PPR redraft with a stud WR, RBBC type of team. McCoy was just dropped during waivers. Trying to decide the following:

Would consider picking up:

McCoy

Laurent Robinson

Can drop:

Michael Bush (also have McFadden)

Mike Sims-Walker

Byron Leftwich (although was planning to play him this week because I also have Palmer..)

Who do you like to grab/drop?

 

[sterjs]

WR Antonio Bryant was waived yesterday. I claimed WR Laurent Robinson today, but now I'm considering dropping him for Bryant. I'm lukewarm to the idea of picking up an injured player who is unreliable at the best of times, but it seems like the higher upside play.

Keep 8 Players, 10 Team League

0.5 PPR, 6 pt/pass td, -3/int

Start QB, QB/RB/WR, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE

Roster:

QB (3 max) Peyton Manning, Jay Cutler, David Garrard

RB (5 max) Maurice Jones-Drew, Steve Slaton, Ronnie Brown, Ray Rice, Donald Brown

WR (6 max) Reggie Wayne, Marques Colston, Roy E. Williams, Jerrico Cotchery, Percy Harvin, Laurent Robinson

TE (2 max) Owen Daniels, Todd Heap

 

[fozzy fosbourne]

Hey Jeff, I'm playing the owner of Westbrook this week and McCoy is a FA .. I basically have to make room for him, right? Other notables in FA are L. Robinson, A. Bradshaw, Leinart, C. Taylor, Forsett

I'm thinking of dropping Garrard for him like you mentioned last time, just haven't been able to bite the bullet. But I probably need a starter of destiny RB pick off the WW to do well this season so I should probably just take my chances without a backup QB, huh

QB: Schaub, Garrard

WR: Moss, Ocho, Driver, Hester, Manningham

RB: LT, Grant, DMC, Rice, Moreno

TE: Heap

D/ST: SD

K: Tynes

Also, I'm going to give SD D/ST a rest, and play matchups off waivers -- who do you like this week, Cin vs Pit, Den vs Oak, or Was vs Det?

Thanks!

 

[atcdav]

hey jeff, do you think Roddy White is on a par with Jennings in a non-ppr league? Is White worth Lynch? lets say in a flex spot were you would start one every week, who would you want on your team? lynch or white?

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

hey jeff, do you think Roddy White is on a par with Jennings in a non-ppr league? Is White worth Lynch? lets say in a flex spot were you would start one every week, who would you want on your team? lynch or white?

Yes, I would say White and Jennings are close. In a non-PPR, it is close between Lynch and the WRs. I think I would prefer White. I have no ideal what role FJax will have going forward.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff, I'm playing the owner of Westbrook this week and McCoy is a FA .. I basically have to make room for him, right? Other notables in FA are L. Robinson, A. Bradshaw, Leinart, C. Taylor, ForsettI'm thinking of dropping Garrard for him like you mentioned last time, just haven't been able to bite the bullet. But I probably need a starter of destiny RB pick off the WW to do well this season so I should probably just take my chances without a backup QB, huhQB: Schaub, GarrardWR: Moss, Ocho, Driver, Hester, ManninghamRB: LT, Grant, DMC, Rice, MorenoTE: HeapD/ST: SDK: TynesAlso, I'm going to give SD D/ST a rest, and play matchups off waivers -- who do you like this week, Cin vs Pit, Den vs Oak, or Was vs Det?Thanks!

Den and Wash are good options. Stafford has thrown 5 picks in two games. I would dump Garrard for McCoy. You have a good team. Are there good QB options on the waiver wire? I ask because it will help decide how long you can risk it without a backup.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

WR Antonio Bryant was waived yesterday. I claimed WR Laurent Robinson today, but now I'm considering dropping him for Bryant. I'm lukewarm to the idea of picking up an injured player who is unreliable at the best of times, but it seems like the higher upside play.Keep 8 Players, 10 Team League0.5 PPR, 6 pt/pass td, -3/intStart QB, QB/RB/WR, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TERoster:QB (3 max) Peyton Manning, Jay Cutler, David GarrardRB (5 max) Maurice Jones-Drew, Steve Slaton, Ronnie Brown, Ray Rice, Donald BrownWR (6 max) Reggie Wayne, Marques Colston, Roy E. Williams, Jerrico Cotchery, Percy Harvin, Laurent RobinsonTE (2 max) Owen Daniels, Todd Heap

I like Bryant more, easily. When he is back, you have a very startable WR

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Jeff, PPR redraft with a stud WR, RBBC type of team. McCoy was just dropped during waivers. Trying to decide the following:Would consider picking up:McCoyLaurent RobinsonCan drop:Michael Bush (also have McFadden)Mike Sims-WalkerByron Leftwich (although was planning to play him this week because I also have Palmer..)Who do you like to grab/drop?

if you have stud WRs, I would dump MSW for McCoy. I do not think Westbrook makes it all 16 and you could have a RB2 for stretch run. I would keep Bush with McFadden and Fargas' injury history. While I like Robinson, I would keep the RBs instead since you have stud WRs. These guys prob would not start at WR for you anyway.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Had to delete our previous discussion....My team (start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, K, D with standard scoring-non ppr):McNabb, T EdwardsLT, SJax, Lynch, Moreno, D Brown, L McCoyR White, M Colston, B Edwards, H Ward, D MasonFolkGiants DI was attempting to get Manningham, Robinson, or Sims-Walker in waivers and/or trade for Fred Jackson.Unfortuantely I wasn't able to get any of my waiver wire targets, and my last offer of Mason and Brown for Fred Jackson and his worst WR was rejected. I think I've given up getting Jackson as I've reached the point that I'm not willing to offer any more for Fred Jackson. I don't care about Mason, in fact I plan to drop him, but anything else he would want (McCoy or Ward) would be too much for me to give up IMO.However, Earl Bennett was dropped and Johnny Knox, Julian Edelman, Chansi Stuckey, Donald Avery, Brandon Stokley, Justin Gage, Ricky Williams, and Michael Bush are all available.I'm starting SJax, Moreno, R White, Colston, and H Ward. But unsure on my two flex spots (current bench options B Edwards, D Mason, D Brown, L McCoy).Do you think any of the FAs listed above would be better starts than my four options? I'm not sure of all these options which two I should start this week.Thanks for the help!

Avery and Bush are intriguing with upside, but I do not know if I would drop any of your current guys, esp since you need them to start/flex. I would make the moves if for bench/depth, but not since needed to start.

 

[fozzy fosbourne]

Hey Jeff, I'm playing the owner of Westbrook this week and McCoy is a FA .. I basically have to make room for him, right? Other notables in FA are L. Robinson, A. Bradshaw, Leinart, C. Taylor, ForsettI'm thinking of dropping Garrard for him like you mentioned last time, just haven't been able to bite the bullet. But I probably need a starter of destiny RB pick off the WW to do well this season so I should probably just take my chances without a backup QB, huhQB: Schaub, GarrardWR: Moss, Ocho, Driver, Hester, ManninghamRB: LT, Grant, DMC, Rice, MorenoTE: HeapD/ST: SDK: TynesAlso, I'm going to give SD D/ST a rest, and play matchups off waivers -- who do you like this week, Cin vs Pit, Den vs Oak, or Was vs Det?Thanks!

Den and Wash are good options. Stafford has thrown 5 picks in two games. I would dump Garrard for McCoy. You have a good team. Are there good QB options on the waiver wire? I ask because it will help decide how long you can risk it without a backup.

It's a 12 team league, 4 point passing TD and one QB starter. The wire has been picked pretty clean, and there might be some moves as the bye weeks come up but I haven't done much research to see how many likely QB pickups there will be.On the wire:Lefty, Collins, Sanchez, Stafford, Kolb, Bulger, Quinn, Russell, Wallace, LeinartSo beyond Leftwich, and maybe Collins and Sanchez, it's pretty meager.

 

[Pyro boy]

Jeff.

I have a waiver question for you. I am in a PPR league, with NO trades. I have as WR's A. Johnson, D. Bowe, Justin Gage, Devin Hester, S. Breaston, Michael Jenkins, and Donnie Avery. Mike Sims-Walker and Johnny Knox are both available on the waiver wire, and I am thinking about picking one of them up in the order listed above, and dropping a WR. 1) Is that a good idea? and 2) Should I plan on dropping Avery or Jenkins, I was leaning toward Jenkins, but what do you think? I prefer Sims-Walker and would think about putting him in as a WR3 this week, smart idea or too risky?

Waiver drops at 3AM tonight...

Thanks

Scott aka PYRO boy

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Hey Jeff, I'm playing the owner of Westbrook this week and McCoy is a FA .. I basically have to make room for him, right? Other notables in FA are L. Robinson, A. Bradshaw, Leinart, C. Taylor, ForsettI'm thinking of dropping Garrard for him like you mentioned last time, just haven't been able to bite the bullet. But I probably need a starter of destiny RB pick off the WW to do well this season so I should probably just take my chances without a backup QB, huhQB: Schaub, GarrardWR: Moss, Ocho, Driver, Hester, ManninghamRB: LT, Grant, DMC, Rice, MorenoTE: HeapD/ST: SDK: TynesAlso, I'm going to give SD D/ST a rest, and play matchups off waivers -- who do you like this week, Cin vs Pit, Den vs Oak, or Was vs Det?Thanks!

Den and Wash are good options. Stafford has thrown 5 picks in two games. I would dump Garrard for McCoy. You have a good team. Are there good QB options on the waiver wire? I ask because it will help decide how long you can risk it without a backup.

It's a 12 team league, 4 point passing TD and one QB starter. The wire has been picked pretty clean, and there might be some moves as the bye weeks come up but I haven't done much research to see how many likely QB pickups there will be.On the wire:Lefty, Collins, Sanchez, Stafford, Kolb, Bulger, Quinn, Russell, Wallace, LeinartSo beyond Leftwich, and maybe Collins and Sanchez, it's pretty meager.

But those are enough to keep from having you stuck. Collins and Leftwich have probably produced similar or better numbers to Garrard this season anyway. You should be in good shape.