wannabee Strategy Thread (6 Viewers)

[wannabee]

I may look at it differently than most, but in a 12 team league that only keeps 13 players each, you should only keep 1 QB year to year. If this is the case, I would not trade for Brees since you have Palmer. I would prefer to build up my Rbs and WRs. Your WRs are very strong and so are your Rbs. Even though you WRs are a little stronger than your RBs,the value would be to take Rice or Meachem at the pick ... if you cannot trade it for a RB. That is the one position I might look to upgrade if possible. But, as far as this scenario, I would not trade for Brees while having Palmer as the starter. The RBs left for the draft are tradional 2nd and 3rd round picks and 1.05 is way too eary unless one has a great combine and is drafted into a great situaion (doubtful).

Thanks. It's funny to think I could wind up with Calvin Johnson, DeWayne Jarrett, and either Ginn, Rice or Meacham. After thinking about it some more that might even make sense because my college roster has Lynch, McFadden and Stewart so I'd need some space for RBs likely next year if they declare early.He's offered Warrick Dunn this morning for the 1.5 pick. I'm not sure how much Dunn has left in the tank, but I'm 99% sure this doesn't make sense for me. His other RBs are Edge James, Thomas Jones, and Julius JonesAnother owner who owns Portis is back. I think he'd be willing to do something involving Ronnie Brown. Given the new change of head coach at Miami, would Brown for Portis straight up still be a good deal in your eyes? What about Ronnie Brown and my 1.5 for Portis and Henry. That would give me the starter in Tenn no matter what and possibly the higher ranked RB in Portis over Brown. Unless you foresee a big increase with LT's old offensive coordinator now the head coach in Miami. Thanks.

I think McFadden and Stewart will come out next year. On Dunn, I would avoid like the plague. He is having shoulder surgery this month. He is due a decent enough salray that there is rumor that he might be cut. And, he will be 32 years old this year, iirc. On Portis, I would like it much more for you if you could get Betts, too. Assuming Meachem is pick 1.5 (just for the example), I do like the Brown/1.5 for Portis/Henry ... especially if you can get Betts somehoe at a decent price. If not, do this deal and lay low on trading for Betts. Just act like Betts is the backup and Portis is the starter. The later you trade for Betts, imo, the less he will cost because right now his owners remember the production and forget the Portis injury. I hope this helps and makes a modicum of sense.

 

[Gandalf]

Thanks it does make sense.

I might even be able to get Portis and Henry for Brown without parting with my 1.5 pick. That's where we currently are. Does that tip the balance to make this deal a no brainer? Aren't you worried about Betts and a RBBC? Conversely, doesn't the new coach for Miami make it likely that Browns production will increase dramatically?

I'd just hate to trade Brown now before he explodes next season for a once great RB now stuck in a RBBC. I guess that the nightmare scenario for this deal, but it's making me pause.

 

[wannabee]

Thanks it does make sense. I might even be able to get Portis and Henry for Brown without parting with my 1.5 pick. That's where we currently are. Does that tip the balance to make this deal a no brainer? Aren't you worried about Betts and a RBBC? Conversely, doesn't the new coach for Miami make it likely that Browns production will increase dramatically? I'd just hate to trade Brown now before he explodes next season for a once great RB now stuck in a RBBC. I guess that the nightmare scenario for this deal, but it's making me pause.

I would definitely do that deal. The reason: I think you can easily trade the 1.5 for Betts ifneed be. But, I think you should be able to get Betts cheaper than that as time goes on. Just find some of those articles where it blatantly says "Betts signed for backup money".On Portis, I am not worried about RBBC at all. I would just want Betts as insurance since he has proven his worth. On ehint might be to agree on the trade just not make it public. Then, approach the Btts owners and see what he wants. I think he would want more when he knows you have Portis.I think the 'Skins will run the ball close to 500 times a year under Gibbs if they can. That means there is plenty to go around. I know some has to do with being in the potent Denver offense, but Portis seemed to produce better with 300 or fewer carries. Look at these stats (hope it aligns well):+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2002 den | 16 | 273 1508 5.5 15 | 33 364 11.0 2 || 2003 den | 13 | 290 1591 5.5 14 | 38 314 8.3 0 || 2004 was | 15 | 343 1315 3.8 5 | 40 235 5.9 2 || 2005 was | 16 | 352 1516 4.3 11 | 30 216 7.2 0 || 2006 was | 8 | 127 523 4.1 7 | 17 170 10.0 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 68 | 1385 6453 4.7 52 | 158 1299 8.2 4 So, I would do that deal and play up the fact that Cameron is the new Dolphins coach. Imo, the 'fin OLine stinks and will hinder Brown's production and keep him from the top tier of RBs.Also, when preseason starts, Portis will be worth a ton more than Brown. This is the time to buy.

 

[Gandalf]

You truly are a mastermind. I'm convinced. Thanks so much for your advice.

 

[wannabee]

You truly are a mastermind. I'm convinced. Thanks so much for your advice.

Thank you for the kind words. I am just a guy that spends too much time reading/studying fantasy stuff.

 

[Gandalf]

So much to consider... There is one owner who I'm dealing with for the Portis/Brown deal. But the other owner who wants my 1.5 draft pick keeps coming back. His latest offer was Brees for the 1.5 which I turned down and Dunn for the 1.5 which I also turned down. Would trading the 1.5 for Edge James or Julius Jones be worth it? Since he has asked me what it would take, I might as well ask right? Then again, I might need my 1.5 to score LaDell Betts if the Portis deal is inked? Or I might need my 1.5 for the Portis deal. How does this strategy sound?

1. Wait on the Portis and Henry for Brown (and my 1.5 if necessary)

2. If Portis deal is accepted, then I'll go after Betts with my 1.5

3. If Portis deal not accepted, then I'll asked for Julius Jones or Edge James

Does that make sense or should I pursue option 3 before option 2? Because I could probably trade Jones or James for Betts plus something. Then again that might be playing things to cute.

 

[wannabee]

So much to consider... There is one owner who I'm dealing with for the Portis/Brown deal. But the other owner who wants my 1.5 draft pick keeps coming back. His latest offer was Brees for the 1.5 which I turned down and Dunn for the 1.5 which I also turned down. Would trading the 1.5 for Edge James or Julius Jones be worth it? Since he has asked me what it would take, I might as well ask right? Then again, I might need my 1.5 to score LaDell Betts if the Portis deal is inked? Or I might need my 1.5 for the Portis deal. How does this strategy sound?1. Wait on the Portis and Henry for Brown (and my 1.5 if necessary)2. If Portis deal is accepted, then I'll go after Betts with my 1.53. If Portis deal not accepted, then I'll asked for Julius Jones or Edge JamesDoes that make sense or should I pursue option 3 before option 2? Because I could probably trade Jones or James for Betts plus something. Then again that might be playing things to cute.

First, I would wait on the Portis deal and see what you are left with. That is a great deal. Next, I think you need to look at any subsequent deal to see how it affects the keeper situation. You have good young keeper depth and I would prefer to keep some of those players and the picks rather than get players and have to not keep some good players.I would not think Julius is better than a few of your keepers, especially since you might have to not keep a decent player. Edge, I would probably stay away from, too. He has a ton of mileage. If you traded for Edge, who would your keepers be?

 

[Packers4ever]

7 Player keeper leagueHis WR's & RB'sRB's LJ, & K. JonesWR's Cotchery, Driver, Walker, Fitz & ColstonMy RB's & WR'sRB's R. Brown, L. Jordon, C. Taylor, J. Lewis, & WestbrookWR's Boldin, S. Moss, & R.MossStarting Lineup is 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR or TE) 1 K, 1 defI went to him looking to trade one of my RB's for one of his WR's but told him Westbrook was not one of the players I would trade him and he said that Cotchery or Driver would be the only 2 WR's he would trade me. The only RB he wants is Taylor.Do you think Cotchery or Driver for Taylor is a fair deal and which one would you rather have.I am thinking Cotchery since he is younger and who knows what will happen to Driver when Favre retires if he was going to be there for a few more years it would be a no brainer.

Personally, I would not do that deal at all. Here is why:In a keep 7 league, you probably would not keep Cotch anyway, imo. Your starting lineup will prob be 3 RBs and 3 WRs. But, for your keepers, you will probably cut Jordan due to his injury. Insstead of trying 1-for-1 deals, I would suggest a different approach. I would suggest trying to get a 2-for-1 deal. This other owner, imo should not keep Cotch in a keep 7 league. But, maybe you can trade him Lewis (or Jordan) and one of the Mosses for Fitz or Walker. Jordan would be a much better keeper, imo, for the other owner than Cotch. So, in general, I would target teams that do not have 7 strong keepers and offer them a 2-for-1 deal. Also, in keep 7 leagues, I owuld only keep RBs and WRs unless scoring gives TEs or QBs an advantage. Also, I would not be afraid to keep more RBs. One thing we know is that RBs are always in demand and injuries even drive up the value of RBs during preseason and regular season.

I tried to counter with a 2 for 1 deal with no luck. He said he would rather keep Cotch over Moss or either one of those 2 RB's.My Question now is I just received another trade with me getting L. Evans for R. Brown. With Williams coming back do you think Browns production will go down and would this be a good trade for me. I like Evans because he is young and has two solid year the last 2 years.Or do you like TJ Houshman for R. Brown better someone offered me this one a couple of days ago.

 

[wannabee]

7 Player keeper leagueHis WR's & RB'sRB's LJ, & K. JonesWR's Cotchery, Driver, Walker, Fitz & ColstonMy RB's & WR'sRB's R. Brown, L. Jordon, C. Taylor, J. Lewis, & WestbrookWR's Boldin, S. Moss, & R.MossStarting Lineup is 1QB, 2 RB's, 3 WR's, 1 TE, 1 Flex(RB, WR or TE) 1 K, 1 defI went to him looking to trade one of my RB's for one of his WR's but told him Westbrook was not one of the players I would trade him and he said that Cotchery or Driver would be the only 2 WR's he would trade me. The only RB he wants is Taylor.Do you think Cotchery or Driver for Taylor is a fair deal and which one would you rather have.I am thinking Cotchery since he is younger and who knows what will happen to Driver when Favre retires if he was going to be there for a few more years it would be a no brainer.

Personally, I would not do that deal at all. Here is why:In a keep 7 league, you probably would not keep Cotch anyway, imo. Your starting lineup will prob be 3 RBs and 3 WRs. But, for your keepers, you will probably cut Jordan due to his injury. Insstead of trying 1-for-1 deals, I would suggest a different approach. I would suggest trying to get a 2-for-1 deal. This other owner, imo should not keep Cotch in a keep 7 league. But, maybe you can trade him Lewis (or Jordan) and one of the Mosses for Fitz or Walker. Jordan would be a much better keeper, imo, for the other owner than Cotch. So, in general, I would target teams that do not have 7 strong keepers and offer them a 2-for-1 deal. Also, in keep 7 leagues, I owuld only keep RBs and WRs unless scoring gives TEs or QBs an advantage. Also, I would not be afraid to keep more RBs. One thing we know is that RBs are always in demand and injuries even drive up the value of RBs during preseason and regular season.

I tried to counter with a 2 for 1 deal with no luck. He said he would rather keep Cotch over Moss or either one of those 2 RB's.My Question now is I just received another trade with me getting L. Evans for R. Brown. With Williams coming back do you think Browns production will go down and would this be a good trade for me. I like Evans because he is young and has two solid year the last 2 years.Or do you like TJ Houshman for R. Brown better someone offered me this one a couple of days ago.

I think Brown is worth A TON more than Evans or Houshy and I like both of those WRs more than most. but, top 10 RBs are worth more than top 12 WRs.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

hey WB,

need your insight again.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=302252

Also i will be playing in your division next year in the new HA.

 

[wannabee]

hey WB,

need your insight again.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=302252

Also i will be playing in your division next year in the new HA.

hey, I will respond. Just thinking on it a little. I look forward to HA.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

quick question....im looking into moving Plaxico and a possible VERY late 1st rounder for AJ. This is the same team that you commented on in the AC. Just wanted to ask in here.

AJ avg's 11.2 and Plax 10.2

Im not a fan at all of Plax...But he is what he is.

IS this a good move...you know i dont have a lead wr at all...so AJ would be my #1. Also i have another 08 1st and 4 08 2nds....as well as 7 of the top 15 in this wr great draft this year.

let me know.

 

[wannabee]

quick question....im looking into moving Plaxico and a possible VERY late 1st rounder for AJ. This is the same team that you commented on in the AC. Just wanted to ask in here.AJ avg's 11.2 and Plax 10.2Im not a fan at all of Plax...But he is what he is. IS this a good move...you know i dont have a lead wr at all...so AJ would be my #1. Also i have another 08 1st and 4 08 2nds....as well as 7 of the top 15 in this wr great draft this year.let me know.

Just to be clear, I am not a big fan of Plax's either. But, I would not do that deal. FYI: I am usually around on AIM even if not on fbg. You can get my AIM from my profile.

 

[Gandalf]

Edge, I would probably stay away from, too. He has a ton of mileage. If you traded for Edge, who would your keepers be?

Good point. It doesn't make sense to trade my 1.5 for Julius Jones or Edge James. He also has Thomas Jones, Javon Walker, and Andre Johnson. Would any of those players upgrade my roster? Obviously if I'm going WR at 1.5 because of the dilution from the college rosters, then Walker and AJ hold more value than that draft pick. He probably wouldn't do that deal straight up though.I'm still waiting on the Portis owner who just switched jobs. He's a good friend so I know he's not just stalling or has a low interest. Well technically he DOES have a low interest because if his interest was higher we'd have a deal by now, but at least there is a good reason for his low interest. He's distracted. I'm holding out but I think a deal can be done for Portis. It's a long off season so I'm going to continue to be patient.

 

[Gandalf]

Just curious, what's your feeling on Larry Johnson? Are you concerned about the amount he carried the ball heading into next year? If yes, how concerned?

 

[wannabee]

Just curious, what's your feeling on Larry Johnson? Are you concerned about the amount he carried the ball heading into next year? If yes, how concerned?

I am not terribly worried about the carry/touch count. But, I am worried by the effect Herm has had on the offense and RBs. Vermeil made sure the OLine was in good shape. he wanted a diversified offense. Herm just wants to run his RB as many times as needed to win, and have just a little play action. I do see a pretty big dropoff between LT and LJ/SJackson and a huge dropoff after these Rbs. I do think LJ's value will go up as people start realizing this.

 

[wannabee]

Edge, I would probably stay away from, too. He has a ton of mileage. If you traded for Edge, who would your keepers be?

Good point. It doesn't make sense to trade my 1.5 for Julius Jones or Edge James. He also has Thomas Jones, Javon Walker, and Andre Johnson. Would any of those players upgrade my roster? Obviously if I'm going WR at 1.5 because of the dilution from the college rosters, then Walker and AJ hold more value than that draft pick. He probably wouldn't do that deal straight up though.I'm still waiting on the Portis owner who just switched jobs. He's a good friend so I know he's not just stalling or has a low interest. Well technically he DOES have a low interest because if his interest was higher we'd have a deal by now, but at least there is a good reason for his low interest. He's distracted. I'm holding out but I think a deal can be done for Portis. It's a long off season so I'm going to continue to be patient.

I would only be interested in moving this pick if I could give a package for player upgrades.

 

[Gandalf]

I would only be interested in moving this pick if I could give a package for player upgrades.

Thanks. I have 3 follow questions which I bolded below. If I'm going to try to improve at RB, I think I should make a run at the following players because they are in the top 10 and each young enough to produce for at least 3 more years barring injury:Top Tier:

LT- He's probably too expensive as the owner asked for the world (SJax, Marshawn Lynch, Fitzgerald and my 1.1.)

2nd Tier:

LJ - he's probably attainable, but I don't want to overpay. I started at Ronnie Brown plus my 1.5. He countered with LJ and Burress for Brown, Fitz, Lynch and 1.3. I think that's crazy but he's probably expecting that we meet in the middle. Given our anchors (first bid and offers) what should my next counter bid be for LJ and what do you see as my walkaway price?

3rd Tier:

Reggie Bush - I LOVE Reggie Bush's long-term potential, but he's a tough call with Deuce there next year

Frank Gore - Solid, but past injury history gives me pause

Clinton Portis - we've established in past conversations that he's currently undervalued

Rudi Johnson - getting older and I'd have to trade with my toughest divisional opponent

To get any of these guys probably means that I have to make a bid that includes Ronnie Brown. I like Brown a lot because I think he was misused by Mularky and was injured for 3 games. Is Gore, Rudi, or Bush an upgrade over Brown? Are they worth a 1.5 pick?

Another way to upgrade my roster is to target an undervalued younger RB and package off LenDale White with my 1.5 college draft pick. I could target:

DeAngelo Williams - You mentioned not liking Carolina RB situation previously.

Caddillac Williams - Undervalued but Tampa is kind of a mess

Joseph Addai - Think he's overvalued right now

Cedrick Benson - I'm just not sold on him b/c teammates seem to dislike him

Kevin Jones - Lisfranc injury is too risky for me

Would any of these guys be worth parting with LenDale White and the 1.5 pick (i.e., Tedd Ginn, Tony Hunt, Sidney Rice, Robert Meacham, JaMarcus Russell, Antonio Pittman)

 

[wannabee]

I would only be interested in moving this pick if I could give a package for player upgrades.

Thanks. I have 3 follow questions which I bolded below. If I'm going to try to improve at RB, I think I should make a run at the following players because they are in the top 10 and each young enough to produce for at least 3 more years barring injury:Top Tier:

LT- He's probably too expensive as the owner asked for the world (SJax, Marshawn Lynch, Fitzgerald and my 1.1.)

2nd Tier:

LJ - he's probably attainable, but I don't want to overpay. I started at Ronnie Brown plus my 1.5. He countered with LJ and Burress for Brown, Fitz, Lynch and 1.3. I think that's crazy but he's probably expecting that we meet in the middle. Given our anchors (first bid and offers) what should my next counter bid be for LJ and what do you see as my walkaway price?

3rd Tier:

Reggie Bush - I LOVE Reggie Bush's long-term potential, but he's a tough call with Deuce there next year

Frank Gore - Solid, but past injury history gives me pause

Clinton Portis - we've established in past conversations that he's currently undervalued

Rudi Johnson - getting older and I'd have to trade with my toughest divisional opponent

To get any of these guys probably means that I have to make a bid that includes Ronnie Brown. I like Brown a lot because I think he was misused by Mularky and was injured for 3 games. Is Gore, Rudi, or Bush an upgrade over Brown? Are they worth a 1.5 pick?

Another way to upgrade my roster is to target an undervalued younger RB and package off LenDale White with my 1.5 college draft pick. I could target:

DeAngelo Williams - You mentioned not liking Carolina RB situation previously.

Caddillac Williams - Undervalued but Tampa is kind of a mess

Joseph Addai - Think he's overvalued right now

Cedrick Benson - I'm just not sold on him b/c teammates seem to dislike him

Kevin Jones - Lisfranc injury is too risky for me

Would any of these guys be worth parting with LenDale White and the 1.5 pick (i.e., Tedd Ginn, Tony Hunt, Sidney Rice, Robert Meacham, JaMarcus Russell, Antonio Pittman)

Here are the best options, imo:1. I would definitely trade the pick and White for KJones, Benson and probably Addai. All three have the talent and opportunity. I would shoot for KJ first. he is still young (24) and could be a great addition at a cheap price.

I am not a Caddy fan, like many around here, and DeAngelo is in a tough spot to produce in Carolina/

2. I would see what the Rudi owner wants for him, He is a solid, steady RB that would be great depth for you.

3. At this point, LT, LJ, and Bush are valued way too high to go after without giving up the world. I would much prefer to go after Rudi, KJones, or Benson or Addai than to overpay for LJ.

Now to answer your questions, I would walk away at Brown and 1.3. Many other decent RBs can be had cheaper. I would not give Brown plus the pick for any of the RBs in that group. Brown still is a top 10 RB and his value is stable. I would prefer to try to buy low on KJones, Benson, or Addai.

Hope this helps.

 

[Gandalf]

This does help. The price he's asking for Rudi is Turner and Fitzgerald or Roy Williams. I don't think I can meet that price though. I could counter, but I don't want to trade Turner now before he blows up. And of course Larry Fitz and Roy are legit stud WRs who are just hitting their stride. Tough to part with that. His team is:

QB: Bulger, Favre, Rodgers

RB: Shaun Alexander, Rudi Johnson, Jamal Lewis, Tiki Barber, Leon Washington, Wali Lundy

WR: Terrell Owens, Marvin Harrison, Joe Horn, Donald Driver

TE: Tony Gonzalez

He also won the league and has the 4th overall pick in the college draft.

 

[wannabee]

This does help. The price he's asking for Rudi is Turner and Fitzgerald or Roy Williams. I don't think I can meet that price though. I could counter, but I don't want to trade Turner now before he blows up. And of course Larry Fitz and Roy are legit stud WRs who are just hitting their stride. Tough to part with that. His team is:QB: Bulger, Favre, RodgersRB: Shaun Alexander, Rudi Johnson, Jamal Lewis, Tiki Barber, Leon Washington, Wali LundyWR: Terrell Owens, Marvin Harrison, Joe Horn, Donald DriverTE: Tony GonzalezHe also won the league and has the 4th overall pick in the college draft.

I do no tlike that for you at all. Turner's value will shoot up as the offseason rolls on. There are already trade rumors and, at worst, Turner is a free agent next offseason. Also, I like for Fitz that Wisenhunt is the head coach now in AZ. I was worried they would hire a defensive guy and make the offense conservative.

 

[wannabee]

I have a post coming looking at the Panther RB situation for 2007 coming up this week. It is finished, but I am waiting for the Super Bowl fever to subside

 

[yortstop]

I have a post coming looking at the Panther RB situation for 2007 coming up this week. It is finished, but I am waiting for the Super Bowl fever to subside

looking forward to this cause I have D.Williams along with Ronnie Brown and MBIII in a 32 tame salary cap league....Also have the #1 and #4 overall picks in our Rookie draft. Something needs to go cause no way I keep all and stay under the cap. I can give more detail on my cap situation if you want.

 

[wannabee]

I have a post coming looking at the Panther RB situation for 2007 coming up this week. It is finished, but I am waiting for the Super Bowl fever to subside

looking forward to this cause I have D.Williams along with Ronnie Brown and MBIII in a 32 tame salary cap league....Also have the #1 and #4 overall picks in our Rookie draft. Something needs to go cause no way I keep all and stay under the cap. I can give more detail on my cap situation if you want.

Of those, I think MB3 (whom I have loved fromt he start) and DWill will be overvalued, especially in a 32 teamer, for different reasons. DWill's you will see from the upoming post. MB3, I noticed something this week while doing research. MB3, as a rookie, actually had more touches per game, but did less with them.I think both of the young RBs would fetch depth elsewhere where you need it. Also, I think Brown is underrated with Ricky possibly coming back. I will try to post the Panther one this week and work up something for MB3 later on this month.

 

[yortstop]

Raiders

Roster Size: 17

Team Salary: $26,818,882

Matt Cassel QB $500,000

Matt Hasselbeck QB $5,528,000

Marion Barber III RB $2,903,000

Ronnie Brown RB $4,459,000

Musa Smith RB $650,000

DeAngelo Williams RB $2,600,000

Marques Colston WR $1,506,000

Jerricho Cotchery WR $1,438,000

Lee Evans WR $2,723,882

Chris Henry WR $1,971,000

Osi Umenyiora DL $300,000

Omar Gaither LB $300,000

Clint Ingram LB $300,000

Stephen Tulloch LB $300,000

Leon Williams LB $300,000

Jarrad Page DB $300,000

Jeff Reed K $740,000

Offseson cap is 27.5 mill and in season will be 25mill. You save half salary by either putting on IR (lost for season) or Redshirting (can remove at any time but must have cap room and cant replace redshirt)

The #1 and #4 overall picks salary depends on position drafted. QB's start at 3mill, RB's start at 2.6 and WR's start at 1.7 mill.....All progress down as certain position players are taken.

 

[wannabee]

RaidersRoster Size: 17Team Salary: $26,818,882 Matt Cassel QB $500,000 Matt Hasselbeck QB $5,528,000 Marion Barber III RB $2,903,000 Ronnie Brown RB $4,459,000 Musa Smith RB $650,000 DeAngelo Williams RB $2,600,000 Marques Colston WR $1,506,000 Jerricho Cotchery WR $1,438,000 Lee Evans WR $2,723,882 Chris Henry WR $1,971,000 Osi Umenyiora DL $300,000 Omar Gaither LB $300,000 Clint Ingram LB $300,000 Stephen Tulloch LB $300,000 Leon Williams LB $300,000 Jarrad Page DB $300,000 Jeff Reed K $740,000 Offseson cap is 27.5 mill and in season will be 25mill. You save half salary by either putting on IR (lost for season) or Redshirting (can remove at any time but must have cap room and cant replace redshirt)The #1 and #4 overall picks salary depends on position drafted. QB's start at 3mill, RB's start at 2.6 and WR's start at 1.7 mill.....All progress down as certain position players are taken.

I am not strong IDPs or Salary cap leagues, but I think I would move DWill at that salary if I can. That is a lot of money tied up. Also, good news for you to move him is the recent news blurb about DWill starting next year ... even though it was a columnist's speculation.

 

[wannabee]

For the last few years, I have heard many times how the Carolina Panthers are a good rushing team and how it is good to have the Panther RBs on your fantasy team. But, after looking at the numbers of the five years John Fox has been the Panther Head Coach, the statistics disagree with this notion. Here are some observations from these five years:

 The high TD rusher per year had: 7, 8, 6, 12, 3 (or an average of 7 per season)

 The team averaged 10.2 rushing TDs per year

 The RB with the most carries had: 210, 318, 217, 205, 223 (avg. 235 carries/yr)

 The RB with the 2nd most rushes had: 101, 113, 68, 180, 121 (avg. 117 carries/yr)

 The Panthers have ranked in the bottom half of the NFL all 5 years in YPC

 In 4 of the 5 years, the Panthers have been in the bottom half of the NFL in: Rush yards and Rush TDs

 Only one year did the Panthers, as a team, eclipse the 4.00 YPC mark, but still 17th in NFL

The five years Fox has been head coach, the Panthers’ record has been:

2002 7-9

2003 11-5

2004 7-9

2005 11-5

2006 8-8

The only two years the Panthers had a winning record were the only two years that the Panthers: were in the top half of the NFL in rush attempts (and top 10 both years) and were 28th pass attempts both years. Also, in those two years, the Panthers were in the top 10 in the NFL in passing YPA. These were the only two years Stephen Davis was a Panther and was healthy. Is it a coincidence that the only two years the Panthers ran the ball a lot were the two years the Panthers had a winning record?

The Panthers fired offensive coordinator Dan Henning and offensive line coach Mike Maser. Henning was replaced with Jeff Davidson from the Cleveland Browns. Davidson’s specialty is the offensive line and the running game. Many think this change indicates that the Panthers will be more of a run-first team once again. Davidson took over as interim offensive coordinator for the last ten games of the season for the Browns after Maurice Carthon resigned. Before that, he was an assistant coach and the offensive line coach. Davidson was with the Patriots from 1997-2004 as the tight ends coach and assistant offensive line coach. One odd sidenote: the Browns averaged 14.7 points per game under Carthon and 15 points per game under Davidson. The Browns had a total of 1335 total rushing yards with Droughns, and his 758 rushing yards, leading the way.But, Droughns’ yards per attempt rose from 3.2 with Carthon at the helm to 3.58 with Davidson. I know the offensive line gelled some and there are other factors at work as well.

What does this mean for DeAngelo Williams and DeShaun Foster? Will either get enough carries to be a viable RB going forward? I do not know. But, I do know that the carries have to increase to make Williams worth what his fantasy owners paid for him. Also, will the Panthers look for a pounding RB similar to what they had in Stephen Davis?

Many questions left to answer, but I see the Panther RBs as a risky proposition going forward.

For reference purposes, all data came from pro-football-reference.com

 

[wannabee]

I went ahead and posted the Panther article above. Iw ill post in the Shark Pool later this week.

 

[the_sig]

For the last few years, I have heard many times how the Carolina Panthers are a good rushing team and how it is good to have the Panther RBs on your fantasy team. But, after looking at the numbers of the five years John Fox has been the Panther Head Coach, the statistics disagree with this notion. Here are some observations from these five years: The high TD rusher per year had: 7, 8, 6, 12, 3 (or an average of 7 per season) The team averaged 10.2 rushing TDs per year The RB with the most carries had: 210, 318, 217, 205, 223 (avg. 235 carries/yr) The RB with the 2nd most rushes had: 101, 113, 68, 180, 121 (avg. 117 carries/yr) The Panthers have ranked in the bottom half of the NFL all 5 years in YPC In 4 of the 5 years, the Panthers have been in the bottom half of the NFL in: Rush yards and Rush TDs Only one year did the Panthers, as a team, eclipse the 4.00 YPC mark, but still 17th in NFLThe five years Fox has been head coach, the Panthers’ record has been:2002 7-92003 11-52004 7-92005 11-52006 8-8 The only two years the Panthers had a winning record were the only two years that the Panthers: were in the top half of the NFL in rush attempts (and top 10 both years) and were 28th pass attempts both years. Also, in those two years, the Panthers were in the top 10 in the NFL in passing YPA. These were the only two years Stephen Davis was a Panther and was healthy. Is it a coincidence that the only two years the Panthers ran the ball a lot were the two years the Panthers had a winning record? The Panthers fired offensive coordinator Dan Henning and offensive line coach Mike Maser. Henning was replaced with Jeff Davidson from the Cleveland Browns. Davidson’s specialty is the offensive line and the running game. Many think this change indicates that the Panthers will be more of a run-first team once again. Davidson took over as interim offensive coordinator for the last ten games of the season for the Browns after Maurice Carthon resigned. Before that, he was an assistant coach and the offensive line coach. Davidson was with the Patriots from 1997-2004 as the tight ends coach and assistant offensive line coach. One odd sidenote: the Browns averaged 14.7 points per game under Carthon and 15 points per game under Davidson. The Browns had a total of 1335 total rushing yards with Droughns, and his 758 rushing yards, leading the way.But, Droughns’ yards per attempt rose from 3.2 with Carthon at the helm to 3.58 with Davidson. I know the offensive line gelled some and there are other factors at work as well.What does this mean for DeAngelo Williams and DeShaun Foster? Will either get enough carries to be a viable RB going forward? I do not know. But, I do know that the carries have to increase to make Williams worth what his fantasy owners paid for him. Also, will the Panthers look for a pounding RB similar to what they had in Stephen Davis? Many questions left to answer, but I see the Panther RBs as a risky proposition going forward.For reference purposes, all data came from pro-football-reference.com

Interesting food for thought....

 

[wannabee]

thank you, the sig

 

[Domination]

For the last few years, I have heard many times how the Carolina Panthers are a good rushing team and how it is good to have the Panther RBs on your fantasy team. But, after looking at the numbers of the five years John Fox has been the Panther Head Coach, the statistics disagree with this notion. Here are some observations from these five years: The high TD rusher per year had: 7, 8, 6, 12, 3 (or an average of 7 per season) The team averaged 10.2 rushing TDs per year The RB with the most carries had: 210, 318, 217, 205, 223 (avg. 235 carries/yr) The RB with the 2nd most rushes had: 101, 113, 68, 180, 121 (avg. 117 carries/yr) The Panthers have ranked in the bottom half of the NFL all 5 years in YPC In 4 of the 5 years, the Panthers have been in the bottom half of the NFL in: Rush yards and Rush TDs Only one year did the Panthers, as a team, eclipse the 4.00 YPC mark, but still 17th in NFLThe five years Fox has been head coach, the Panthers’ record has been:2002 7-92003 11-52004 7-92005 11-52006 8-8 The only two years the Panthers had a winning record were the only two years that the Panthers: were in the top half of the NFL in rush attempts (and top 10 both years) and were 28th pass attempts both years. Also, in those two years, the Panthers were in the top 10 in the NFL in passing YPA. These were the only two years Stephen Davis was a Panther and was healthy. Is it a coincidence that the only two years the Panthers ran the ball a lot were the two years the Panthers had a winning record? The Panthers fired offensive coordinator Dan Henning and offensive line coach Mike Maser. Henning was replaced with Jeff Davidson from the Cleveland Browns. Davidson’s specialty is the offensive line and the running game. Many think this change indicates that the Panthers will be more of a run-first team once again. Davidson took over as interim offensive coordinator for the last ten games of the season for the Browns after Maurice Carthon resigned. Before that, he was an assistant coach and the offensive line coach. Davidson was with the Patriots from 1997-2004 as the tight ends coach and assistant offensive line coach. One odd sidenote: the Browns averaged 14.7 points per game under Carthon and 15 points per game under Davidson. The Browns had a total of 1335 total rushing yards with Droughns, and his 758 rushing yards, leading the way.But, Droughns’ yards per attempt rose from 3.2 with Carthon at the helm to 3.58 with Davidson. I know the offensive line gelled some and there are other factors at work as well.What does this mean for DeAngelo Williams and DeShaun Foster? Will either get enough carries to be a viable RB going forward? I do not know. But, I do know that the carries have to increase to make Williams worth what his fantasy owners paid for him. Also, will the Panthers look for a pounding RB similar to what they had in Stephen Davis? Many questions left to answer, but I see the Panther RBs as a risky proposition going forward.For reference purposes, all data came from pro-football-reference.com

Interesting food for thought....

I agree with you. For some reason the Panthers have been thought of as this great running team, and a good fit for a FF RB. But every year their stats do not live up to the hype or draft value. i think that D Will has alot of skills and could possibly change that but from past experience, it is a situation that I choose to avoid.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

HEY WB

Got a quick one..

DO I make this move for LT...i had been targeting LJ but that dont seem to be happening so i was thinking last night of going for the top overall rb. Our league is a heavy rb favored league as you see in all my post.

It has bonuses of 5 points for 25rushes/9recs/30completions.

I am looking at LT at a cost of WESTBROOK/BUCKHALTER, A.JOHNSON or any of my wr's and the 1.04 rookie pick which we know will land a very nice player...maybe Calvin Johnson or the #3rb in this class.

Team with LT only has LT and JJ/MBIII as rb's. And S.Smith, Javon and H.Ward are his top wideout. Peyton Manning is his qb.

And we start 1qb 2/3rb 3/4wr 1/2te 1k 1def.

here is my team below. (i have very very nice depth at wr so losing one...wont hurt too much, even if it my best wr.) ( i only have 3 starting rb's at the moment...so i dont have great rb depth there but thats where i was gonna draft me a rb at 1.04) -potential starters in bold.

Palmer, Carson CIN QB 259 5 FA

Young, Vince TEN QB 211 7 1.09

Betts, Ladell WAS RB 199 8 FA

Buckhalter, Correll PHI RB 81 9 FA

Calhoun, Brian DET RB (I) 5 8 1.11

Houston, Cedric NYJ RB 72 9 FA

Jones, Kevin DET RB (I) 171 8 FA

Morency, Vernand GBP RB 70 6 FA *

Portis, Clinton WAS RB (I) 118 8 FA

Westbrook, Brian PHI RB 265 9 FA

Battle, Arnaz SFO WR 88 7 FA

Boldin, Anquan ARI WR 162 9 FA

Carter, Drew CAR WR 55 9 FA

Driver, Donald GBP WR 200 6 FA

Evans, Lee BUF WR 189 8 FA

Hagan, Derek MIA WR 30 8 3.05

Holmes, Santonio PIT WR 93 4 1.08

Johnson, Andre HOU WR 179 5 FA

Washington, Nate PIT WR 88 4 FA

Scaife, Bo TEN TE 54 7 FA

Watson, Ben NEP TE 81 6 FA

Bills, Buffalo BUF Def 117 8 FA

22 Total Players

Basically im asking is this a fair deal for both parties, both teams looks like top 4 teams in the league next year. I dont wanna insult him with no bad offer and i want it to be fair as possible and to him while it helps me as well. Only reason im making a move is cause i have alittle depth at wr. He severely lacks depth especially at rb and he already traded Turner so he dont have LT's cuff so i would just be getting LT and thats it.

whats your thoughts on this WB?

 

[wannabee]

HEY WB

Got a quick one..

DO I make this move for LT...i had been targeting LJ but that dont seem to be happening so i was thinking last night of going for the top overall rb. Our league is a heavy rb favored league as you see in all my post.

It has bonuses of 5 points for 25rushes/9recs/30completions.

I am looking at LT at a cost of WESTBROOK/BUCKHALTER, A.JOHNSON or any of my wr's and the 1.04 rookie pick which we know will land a very nice player...maybe Calvin Johnson or the #3rb in this class.

Team with LT only has LT and JJ/MBIII as rb's. And S.Smith, Javon and H.Ward are his top wideout. Peyton Manning is his qb.

And we start 1qb 2/3rb 3/4wr 1/2te 1k 1def.

here is my team below. (i have very very nice depth at wr so losing one...wont hurt too much, even if it my best wr.) ( i only have 3 starting rb's at the moment...so i dont have great rb depth there but thats where i was gonna draft me a rb at 1.04) -potential starters in bold.

Palmer, Carson CIN QB 259 5 FA

Young, Vince TEN QB 211 7 1.09

Betts, Ladell WAS RB 199 8 FA

Buckhalter, Correll PHI RB 81 9 FA

Calhoun, Brian DET RB (I) 5 8 1.11

Houston, Cedric NYJ RB 72 9 FA

Jones, Kevin DET RB (I) 171 8 FA

Morency, Vernand GBP RB 70 6 FA *

Portis, Clinton WAS RB (I) 118 8 FA

Westbrook, Brian PHI RB 265 9 FA

Battle, Arnaz SFO WR 88 7 FA

Boldin, Anquan ARI WR 162 9 FA

Carter, Drew CAR WR 55 9 FA

Driver, Donald GBP WR 200 6 FA

Evans, Lee BUF WR 189 8 FA

Hagan, Derek MIA WR 30 8 3.05

Holmes, Santonio PIT WR 93 4 1.08

Johnson, Andre HOU WR 179 5 FA

Washington, Nate PIT WR 88 4 FA

Scaife, Bo TEN TE 54 7 FA

Watson, Ben NEP TE 81 6 FA

Bills, Buffalo BUF Def 117 8 FA

22 Total Players

Basically im asking is this a fair deal for both parties, both teams looks like top 4 teams in the league next year. I dont wanna insult him with no bad offer and i want it to be fair as possible and to him while it helps me as well. Only reason im making a move is cause i have alittle depth at wr. He severely lacks depth especially at rb and he already traded Turner so he dont have LT's cuff so i would just be getting LT and thats it.

whats your thoughts on this WB?

Hey UBro,I think it is a great deal for you since you would be selling Westy off of a great year, Johnson off of a very good year, and an unknown in the draft picks. This trade would offer the other team a top 5 RB, a top 10-12 WR, and a young top rook. Never know about the insulting part since you never know how much in love a LT owner is. I say this seriously. You never know.

 

[phillzphan]

Hey Wannabee:

I am in a dynasty PPR league and have a good mix of WRs and RBs. My question is a RB swap so I don't think you need too much more info.

Pretty sure an ownder is going to offer me (his) McGahee for (my) DeAngelo Williams. I was trying to get McGahee cheap b/c I think hes undervalued right now...but is this the right deal? Is it fair to ask for more? Who do you think will have a more successful next few years?

This is for my #2 RB after Westy, and my #3 are bell/bell. So, this really needs to come through for me.

hm..thoughts?

phillz

 

[wannabee]

Hey Wannabee:I am in a dynasty PPR league and have a good mix of WRs and RBs. My question is a RB swap so I don't think you need too much more info. Pretty sure an ownder is going to offer me (his) McGahee for (my) DeAngelo Williams. I was trying to get McGahee cheap b/c I think hes undervalued right now...but is this the right deal? Is it fair to ask for more? Who do you think will have a more successful next few years?This is for my #2 RB after Westy, and my #3 are bell/bell. So, this really needs to come through for me. hm..thoughts?phillz

I think I would do the deal. They both have injury histories. I think I would take Willis only because I think he will get decent carries each game. I do not know what his future is in Buffalo but there is a demand for him. I am a little scared of DWilliams to be honest. he could hit and become a star. But, I see a career like Fosters where he teases all of the time. I think I might try to squeeze a little extra since Williams is known for pass catching and Willis is not. You might find out that some are really down on Willis at this time.

 

[Gandalf]

Hey Wannabee,

I've been turning down this one owner's offers left and right. He finally emailed me this one line the other day:

"Just tell me then what it will take to get either the 1.3 and/or 1.5 college draft pick"

His team is:

QB: Peyton Manning, Drew Brees

RB: Thomas Jones, Julius Jones, Jerius Norwood, Edge James, Warrick Dunn

WR: Andre Johnson, Javon Walker, Chris Chambers, Kevin Curtis, Eddie Kennison

TE: Alge Crumpler

If I were to try and continue to upgrade my roster, I think that upgrading my WRs would be the best option. No one in my league seems to want to trade a good RB without getting a better RB in return. Our league starts 3 RBs so they are hot commodities. We keep 13, but I have the 1st two picks in our re-stocking draft so that's like keeping 15 for me. And I have to make room for Darren McFadden and Jonathan Stewart next season. Another reason why I think I should focus on bettering my WRs if possible. As I see it now my keepers are:

1. Carson Palmer QB1

2. Steven Jackson RB1

3. Ronnie Brown RB2

4. Laurence Maroney RB3

5. Marshawn Lynch RB4

6. Michael Turner RB5

7. LenDale White RB6

8. Steve Smith WR1

9. Larry Fitzgerald WR2

10. Roy Williams WR3

11. Lee Evans WR4

12. Calvin Johnson WR5

13. Brandon Marshall WR6

That leaves Mike Williams, Musa Smith and Michael Robinson as possible trade bait.

In the August restocking draft I can take the rookies I drafted with my 1.3 and 1.5 college picks. I'm probably looking at DeWayne Jarrett and Tedd Ginn Jr. or Sidney Rice with those picks. That'd give me 8 WRs heading into next year. But I'd be fine for 2007. In 2008, I need to make room for McFadden and Stewart on a roster of 13, not 15 because I probably won't have the first 2 picks in the re-stocking draft.

All this leads me to believe that I need to find a team looking for depth. Make a 2 for 1 deal. Maybe I can do that with the team above, although I'm not enamored with any of his players. Norwood, AJ or Walker would be the only obvious gems (other than his QBs which I don't need).

Or I could offer my 1.5 and Brandon Marshall for Andre Johnson? Or two draft picks?

I'm kind of at a loss. We don't cut down our rosters until August so I have time, but at some point will need to make a trade or risk cutting some good talent and I really don't want to go down that path unless I absolutely can't reach a deal.

Any more thoughts on how I should handle this off season?

 

[wannabee]

Hey Wannabee,I've been turning down this one owner's offers left and right. He finally emailed me this one line the other day:"Just tell me then what it will take to get either the 1.3 and/or 1.5 college draft pick"His team is:QB: Peyton Manning, Drew BreesRB: Thomas Jones, Julius Jones, Jerius Norwood, Edge James, Warrick DunnWR: Andre Johnson, Javon Walker, Chris Chambers, Kevin Curtis, Eddie KennisonTE: Alge CrumplerIf I were to try and continue to upgrade my roster, I think that upgrading my WRs would be the best option. No one in my league seems to want to trade a good RB without getting a better RB in return. Our league starts 3 RBs so they are hot commodities. We keep 13, but I have the 1st two picks in our re-stocking draft so that's like keeping 15 for me. And I have to make room for Darren McFadden and Jonathan Stewart next season. Another reason why I think I should focus on bettering my WRs if possible. As I see it now my keepers are:1. Carson Palmer QB12. Steven Jackson RB13. Ronnie Brown RB24. Laurence Maroney RB35. Marshawn Lynch RB46. Michael Turner RB57. LenDale White RB68. Steve Smith WR19. Larry Fitzgerald WR210. Roy Williams WR311. Lee Evans WR412. Calvin Johnson WR513. Brandon Marshall WR6That leaves Mike Williams, Musa Smith and Michael Robinson as possible trade bait. In the August restocking draft I can take the rookies I drafted with my 1.3 and 1.5 college picks. I'm probably looking at DeWayne Jarrett and Tedd Ginn Jr. or Sidney Rice with those picks. That'd give me 8 WRs heading into next year. But I'd be fine for 2007. In 2008, I need to make room for McFadden and Stewart on a roster of 13, not 15 because I probably won't have the first 2 picks in the re-stocking draft.All this leads me to believe that I need to find a team looking for depth. Make a 2 for 1 deal. Maybe I can do that with the team above, although I'm not enamored with any of his players. Norwood, AJ or Walker would be the only obvious gems (other than his QBs which I don't need).Or I could offer my 1.5 and Brandon Marshall for Andre Johnson? Or two draft picks?I'm kind of at a loss. We don't cut down our rosters until August so I have time, but at some point will need to make a trade or risk cutting some good talent and I really don't want to go down that path unless I absolutely can't reach a deal.Any more thoughts on how I should handle this off season?

Wow, you have a strong team and a good group of keepers. I, personally, do not see an opportunity for you with this team. I like your four top WRs better than his top 2 and no way would I give up Calvin Johnson this early, either. And, when I look at the Rbs, I do not see many ways for you to improve. What picks does this other owner have? I ask because it might be easier to swap picks and players, but hard to see much that would be great for you at this time.

 

[Gandalf]

Wow, you have a strong team and a good group of keepers. I, personally, do not see an opportunity for you with this team. I like your four top WRs better than his top 2 and no way would I give up Calvin Johnson this early, either. And, when I look at the Rbs, I do not see many ways for you to improve. What picks does this other owner have? I ask because it might be easier to swap picks and players, but hard to see much that would be great for you at this time.

Thank you for the kind words regarding my team. It's taken me a long time to amass this squad. I only play in one dynasty league, so I tend to focus a lot of effort on it.This team has 1.09 college pick.

I think the problem that I'm having with this team I'm having elsewhere. The teams that are willing to trade talk don't have all that much that I need. I don't think it's possible to upgrade my roster at RB without giving up a RB that is close in talent. For example, if I were to get McGahee the owner would want Ronnie Brown. That's why I think I could upgrade at WR. But my WRs are really good so that might not be wise either.

After talking this out some more, I think I need to only make a trade if it upgrades my RBs. That is the position that is most desired. And I'm sort of solid everywhere with good depth so why make a move unless it helps me at the most valuable position, right?

I think my best options at RB are to make another run at Clinton Portis, using Ronnie Brown. Or I could go after DeAngelo Williams with LenDale White and my 1.5, but after reading your article on the Carolina RBs, I'm not sold on that deal. Especially since there's a chance White is the starter this year. The owner of DeAngelo Williams also has Addai and Benson but won't part with them. He has Deuce McAllister, but I can't figure out how to value him with Reggie Bush there. The owner who has Rudi Johnson will want a deal involving Ronnie Brown and I think I like Portis better than Rudi. There just doesn't seem much out there to make it worth my moving one of my picks yet.

I guess after all that rambling, my question is this: if you owned this team, how would you look to make it better? 1) do nothing; 2) send out feelers for Portis, DeAngelo or Rudi (or other RB you like a lot that I haven't mentioned) or 3) try to upgrade my WRs?

Thanks as always for your advice.

 

[wannabee]

Wow, you have a strong team and a good group of keepers. I, personally, do not see an opportunity for you with this team. I like your four top WRs better than his top 2 and no way would I give up Calvin Johnson this early, either. And, when I look at the Rbs, I do not see many ways for you to improve. What picks does this other owner have? I ask because it might be easier to swap picks and players, but hard to see much that would be great for you at this time.

Thank you for the kind words regarding my team. It's taken me a long time to amass this squad. I only play in one dynasty league, so I tend to focus a lot of effort on it.This team has 1.09 college pick.

I think the problem that I'm having with this team I'm having elsewhere. The teams that are willing to trade talk don't have all that much that I need. I don't think it's possible to upgrade my roster at RB without giving up a RB that is close in talent. For example, if I were to get McGahee the owner would want Ronnie Brown. That's why I think I could upgrade at WR. But my WRs are really good so that might not be wise either.

After talking this out some more, I think I need to only make a trade if it upgrades my RBs. That is the position that is most desired. And I'm sort of solid everywhere with good depth so why make a move unless it helps me at the most valuable position, right?

I think my best options at RB are to make another run at Clinton Portis, using Ronnie Brown. Or I could go after DeAngelo Williams with LenDale White and my 1.5, but after reading your article on the Carolina RBs, I'm not sold on that deal. Especially since there's a chance White is the starter this year. The owner of DeAngelo Williams also has Addai and Benson but won't part with them. He has Deuce McAllister, but I can't figure out how to value him with Reggie Bush there. The owner who has Rudi Johnson will want a deal involving Ronnie Brown and I think I like Portis better than Rudi. There just doesn't seem much out there to make it worth my moving one of my picks yet.

I guess after all that rambling, my question is this: if you owned this team, how would you look to make it better? 1) do nothing; 2) send out feelers for Portis, DeAngelo or Rudi (or other RB you like a lot that I haven't mentioned) or 3) try to upgrade my WRs?

Thanks as always for your advice.

I would send out feelers for the true RB1s that you can start each week. Your Rbs ar eyoung and may suffer from being in a RBBC. The one trade opeion with the team above would be to try to trade White plus your rookie pick for Thomas Jones and his rookie pick to try to get a RB starter for 2007 to hold you until your young guys pan out. Edge might be another (depending on how much you like him).I think you have svery strong WRs and would not sweat them at all. You have 4 WRs that many would be happy having as their WR1. I think I would concentrate on getting solid RB1/2. I would think a RB like Rudi, Parker, Deuce McAllister, Ahman etc (even Willis) would help you a ton. Starting SJackson, Rudi and either Maroney or Brown would be great. I would look at who I could get cheap enough and I woulf only really want to give up White and a pick. But, in a year or two, Lynch will be a starter for you.

 

[Gandalf]

I would send out feelers for the true RB1s that you can start each week. Your Rbs ar eyoung and may suffer from being in a RBBC. The one trade opeion with the team above would be to try to trade White plus your rookie pick for Thomas Jones and his rookie pick to try to get a RB starter for 2007 to hold you until your young guys pan out. Edge might be another (depending on how much you like him).I think you have svery strong WRs and would not sweat them at all. You have 4 WRs that many would be happy having as their WR1. I think I would concentrate on getting solid RB1/2. I would think a RB like Rudi, Parker, Deuce McAllister, Ahman etc (even Willis) would help you a ton. Starting SJackson, Rudi and either Maroney or Brown would be great. I would look at who I could get cheap enough and I woulf only really want to give up White and a pick. But, in a year or two, Lynch will be a starter for you.

Thanks I think that's a good direction to head. Another follow up question: I know you're not high on Caddy Williams, but I could probably get him from the owner because his team is in shambles. Would White plus the 1.5 pick be too much for Caddy?

 

[wannabee]

I would send out feelers for the true RB1s that you can start each week. Your Rbs ar eyoung and may suffer from being in a RBBC. The one trade opeion with the team above would be to try to trade White plus your rookie pick for Thomas Jones and his rookie pick to try to get a RB starter for 2007 to hold you until your young guys pan out. Edge might be another (depending on how much you like him).I think you have svery strong WRs and would not sweat them at all. You have 4 WRs that many would be happy having as their WR1. I think I would concentrate on getting solid RB1/2. I would think a RB like Rudi, Parker, Deuce McAllister, Ahman etc (even Willis) would help you a ton. Starting SJackson, Rudi and either Maroney or Brown would be great. I would look at who I could get cheap enough and I woulf only really want to give up White and a pick. But, in a year or two, Lynch will be a starter for you.

Thanks I think that's a good direction to head. Another follow up question: I know you're not high on Caddy Williams, but I could probably get him from the owner because his team is in shambles. Would White plus the 1.5 pick be too much for Caddy?

I do think that is even too much for Caddy. Sorry, but I think you have two choices in White and the pick that one or both could/should outproduce Caddy for fantasy production.

 

[Gandalf]

I do think that is even too much for Caddy. Sorry, but I think you have two choices in White and the pick that one or both could/should outproduce Caddy for fantasy production.

Thanks. I'm going to send out some feelers to see if I can upgrade at RB. You never know, maybe the McGahee owner is starting to get nervous with these trade rumors swirling? There is always hope.

 

[wannabee]

I do think that is even too much for Caddy. Sorry, but I think you have two choices in White and the pick that one or both could/should outproduce Caddy for fantasy production.

Thanks. I'm going to send out some feelers to see if I can upgrade at RB. You never know, maybe the McGahee owner is starting to get nervous with these trade rumors swirling? There is always hope.

check out these stats for Caddy:http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/WillCa02.htm

 

[Gandalf]

I knew Caddy had a down year, but wow that's pretty bad.

I'm starting to think Edge might benefit from the new coach and we at least know he's going to be the starter in Arizona for the next year or two. With that in mind which of these three options do you think is best:

1) keep LenDale White and 1.05. I can just see trading White only find out that Henry signs elsewhere. This makes me want to keep him because White without Henry would be real solid in a dynasty league. If I can wait at worst a year or two he'll get a shot.

2) trade White and 1.05 for Thomas Jones and the 1.09. I'm not sure Jones will be the guy next year and fear the RBBC. Plus he's creeping up there in age.

3) trade White and 1.05 for Edge and 1.09. Is Edge done or will Wisenhunt use him more effectively? Edge did run well at the end running for 3 TDs and a 4+ average in the last 5 games of the season.

4) trade White and 1.05 for Chester Taylor. Not sure this is the best move for me but I'd probably be able to land Taylor. I wouldn't be getting a pick back in this deal which is not great.

Of course this assumes that I get no bites from people with better RBs. I would only do #2, #3 or #4 if I couldn't get a top RB from someone.

 

[wannabee]

I knew Caddy had a down year, but wow that's pretty bad.I'm starting to think Edge might benefit from the new coach and we at least know he's going to be the starter in Arizona for the next year or two. With that in mind which of these three options do you think is best:1) keep LenDale White and 1.05. I can just see trading White only find out that Henry signs elsewhere. This makes me want to keep him because White without Henry would be real solid in a dynasty league. If I can wait at worst a year or two he'll get a shot. 2) trade White and 1.05 for Thomas Jones and the 1.09. I'm not sure Jones will be the guy next year and fear the RBBC. Plus he's creeping up there in age.3) trade White and 1.05 for Edge and 1.09. Is Edge done or will Wisenhunt use him more effectively? Edge did run well at the end running for 3 TDs and a 4+ average in the last 5 games of the season.4) trade White and 1.05 for Chester Taylor. Not sure this is the best move for me but I'd probably be able to land Taylor. I wouldn't be getting a pick back in this deal which is not great.Of course this assumes that I get no bites from people with better RBs. I would only do #2, #3 or #4 if I couldn't get a top RB from someone.

I hear you on all accounts. I think the Chester option right now seems the worst since I have seen NFL mock drafts having Peterson go there.Another option would be to use White to get a better pick or Lynch. I know we had discussed using the pick to upgrade White to a better RB, but can also use White to upgrade the pick (lynch).

 

[Gandalf]

I hear you on all accounts. I think the Chester option right now seems the worst since I have seen NFL mock drafts having Peterson go there.Another option would be to use White to get a better pick or Lynch. I know we had discussed using the pick to upgrade White to a better RB, but can also use White to upgrade the pick (lynch).

Well the good news with that plan is that I already have Lynch stashed on my college roster. But I like where your head is at. I could trade White to the guy who owns 1.2 and then take Pittman/Hunt/Brandon Jackson/Dwayne Wright with that pick. But I think White might be better than those guys.

 

[wannabee]

I hear you on all accounts. I think the Chester option right now seems the worst since I have seen NFL mock drafts having Peterson go there.Another option would be to use White to get a better pick or Lynch. I know we had discussed using the pick to upgrade White to a better RB, but can also use White to upgrade the pick (lynch).

Well the good news with that plan is that I already have Lynch stashed on my college roster. But I like where your head is at. I could trade White to the guy who owns 1.2 and then take Pittman/Hunt/Brandon Jackson/Dwayne Wright with that pick. But I think White might be better than those guys.

I agree on the White vs 1.2. But, I might see what the Henry owner would pay for White. I am neither high or low on White. But, I might look at the situation and see how you cam maximize the value. I would look aorund and see what options are out there.

 

[Gandalf]

An owner just emailed me with the following...

Maroney and Evans (or Fitzgerald or Smith) for McGahee and his 1st and 2nd round pick in 2008 (I could use this on a very good college RB)

Problems that I have with the deal is that I like Maroney's long-term better than McGahee, especially with the trade rumors swirling. But until Dillon finally exits the situation, Maroney is looking at 15 carries per game, so it could help me next year. Also, I don't want to give up one of my stud WRs. I don't need his picks because I have 2 first rounders, but of course, it's always nice to acquire picks.

Sidenote: I've been a Pats fan my whole life and this may be playing into my bias towards keeping Maroney.

 

[Domination]

An owner just emailed me with the following...Maroney and Evans (or Fitzgerald or Smith) for McGahee and his 1st and 2nd round pick in 2008 (I could use this on a very good college RB)Problems that I have with the deal is that I like Maroney's long-term better than McGahee, especially with the trade rumors swirling. But until Dillon finally exits the situation, Maroney is looking at 15 carries per game, so it could help me next year. Also, I don't want to give up one of my stud WRs. I don't need his picks because I have 2 first rounders, but of course, it's always nice to acquire picks.Sidenote: I've been a Pats fan my whole life and this may be playing into my bias towards keeping Maroney.

I don't like this trade at all. I think Maroney's value is higher than McGahee's value and if you adding the stud WR on top of that I think you are definitely giving up the better players here. The picks are great, but as you said you don't need them. I agree with Wannabee previously said about only making a trade for a legit #1 RB. You have a great team assembled, and have very good depth with players and picks. I would think that you would be able to get just about anyone that you wanted. Sorry if stepped on your toes Wannabee.

 

[wannabee]

I agree with Dom, I do not like the deal. You are giving up the better players plus the picks are diluted with the college players already on rosters.

But, as a Pats fan, I would still be worried about Maroney having company in the backfield. I read today where, if Dillon is cut, the Pats are expected to draft a RB to complement Maroney.