Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
The streak does seem to reek of steroid usage but Im wondering what the average FBG thinks here.
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Was Cal Ripken a Juicer? (1 Viewer)
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PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Should be a poll.
But I personally don't think so.
But I personally don't think so.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
That's the problem with the steroid era. We will never know who did and who didn't.
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
I would guess that he did. I'd bet my house that he did more greenies than Hunter Thompson too.
ditka...mike ditka
Footballguy
I thought that people using steriods tended to get hurt more often??? am i wrong in that assumption?
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
Yes, I think you're wrong. It depends on the type of steroids. Many steroids are designed to help with recovery time. So nagging injuries heal much faster and you are able to work out longer and harder without the soreness of a normal person.
Steelnation
Footballguy
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Angry Beavers
Footballguy
I'd like to think "NO" but I would not be surprised if he was on Greenies or something else 
dparker713
Footballguy
It helps muscles recover, it creates problems with ligaments and tendons. So dont try claiming that steroids help you be less injury prone. They help muscle pulls, but make major injuries like a blown knee significantly more likely. Given the recovery time of those two options, I'd say you're likely to miss more time going the steroid route.And for those of you in the maybe column, Cal never looked like an athlete. He was never cut or huge. There isn't even circumstantial evidence in his case. Greenies are another topic entirely, but I see no reason to suspect him of steroid use.Tough As Nails said:
ditka...mike ditka
Footballguy
Agreed..btw, Cal is my favorite baseball player of all time. flame away.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I'd bet he used some low potency steroids over the years for minor injuries and the like but nothing to enhance his performance. The stuff he took probably would be borderline legal closer to cortisone than HGH. I'd say he never took anything that he thought was illegal or anything used primarily to increase mass and performance.
They all take steroids, but they increase injury not the other way around. If you want to make steriod claims based on injury, you have the wrong JR.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
Suppose a doctor (a real doctor, not some Dr. Feelgood) prescribed prednisone (which is a steroid) and has legitimate medical uses, for Cal to help him "heal" from an injury. Would that make him a juicer?
BTW, in all my years following the O's during the Cal era, I don't recall many events where the Streak was in jeopardy because of some minor injury. Now maybe the media covered them up, but I think Cal was in such great physical shape (not cut from lifting) and flexible that he just didn't get hurt. The one major issue was a sprained ankle that came the day before a day off and they there was a "rain-out" the following day when the sun was shining 30 minutes after the game was called. But other than that, there were few injuries that would have kept him from playing.
BTW, in all my years following the O's during the Cal era, I don't recall many events where the Streak was in jeopardy because of some minor injury. Now maybe the media covered them up, but I think Cal was in such great physical shape (not cut from lifting) and flexible that he just didn't get hurt. The one major issue was a sprained ankle that came the day before a day off and they there was a "rain-out" the following day when the sun was shining 30 minutes after the game was called. But other than that, there were few injuries that would have kept him from playing.
Funkley
Collar: Up
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Nah, I never thought Cal was one who used steroids. He never put up big power numbers, and never seemed to ever get bigger. He was just as consistant as they come, now like others have said, maybe greenies were a factor, but steroids? I would be in the no camp.
Now if you ask me about the '93 Phils, well everyone including the Phanatic was juiced that year.
Now if you ask me about the '93 Phils, well everyone including the Phanatic was juiced that year.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Cal is not an obvious choice but you don't need to be ripped like Mark McGwire, Jeff Bagwell or Barry Bonds to be juicing.
Hasn't Raffy proven that already? Ryan Franklin? Jason Grimsely?
Going back to the tired argument that he wasn't cut or huge is not going to work for me anymore. Its obvious that there were plenty of pitchers juicing during this era that were not ripped.
Cal might not have done them but Im probably going to have assume he did considering the longevity of this streak.
Every player is a possibility now and just because he's one of your favorites should not exclude him from the conversation.
Hasn't Raffy proven that already? Ryan Franklin? Jason Grimsely?
Going back to the tired argument that he wasn't cut or huge is not going to work for me anymore. Its obvious that there were plenty of pitchers juicing during this era that were not ripped.
Cal might not have done them but Im probably going to have assume he did considering the longevity of this streak.
Every player is a possibility now and just because he's one of your favorites should not exclude him from the conversation.
Greco
Footballguy
Divine intervention...but the O's are a tainted team with Brady Anderson, Sammy Sosa, Raffy, Brian Roberts, Miguel Tejada, and now even the almight Cal under suspicion...
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
By Jefferson the Caregiver and maybe a few other FBG's? Come on.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Prolly doesn't advance much if we're just going to randomly name-drop now, too. Unless there is evidence suggesting he did, I'm going to assume Player X did not juice.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
I think there are a lot of people like you. Its a more rosy way of looking at the world, I will give you that.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
I think more than few others.I know he's not really on the radar when you start talking about steroid use but once you start thinking about it, it makes more sense than it doesn't.I gotta laugh at you homers that get upset about this stuff. Oh no, not my favorite player, how dare you say that.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Has nothing to do with who's a favorite player. It's just mindless name-dropping unless you're going to bring some evidence to the table. Thus far, you haven't brought anything here for us to chew on.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Fixed to correct this fantasy of yours.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Brother, the evidence is already on the table. Steroid use was rampant in MLB. Not everyone got caught.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Really, seems like you are in denial about the problem to me. But I think you were the same guy that told me he thinks the NFL is clean too, so this is actually par for the course.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Non sequitur. Just because not everyone was caught means that everyone is guilty. Come back and play when you find any evidence that CAL RIPKEN JR., whom you're indicting here, did steroids.
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Because I'm not ready to indict every player of steroid use doesn't mean I don't recognize it is/was a problem. Not sure what your agenda is here.
avoiding injuries
Footballguy
So because I live in Baltimore and root for the Orioles I am not allowed to dismiss your lame attempt at grouping Cal Ripken with other steroid users because "every player is a possibility". What evidence is on the table concerning this one player you called out? Why hasn't anyone publically made the claim that you have? I'm sure it would get a ton of publicity if there was a HINT of evidence.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Quit buying the BS.
dparker713
Footballguy
Once again, steroids would not help you with the streak. They inhibit flexibility and increase serious ligament and tendon injuries. No one is saying that there is zero chance he took steroids. There is of course a possibility that every MLB player has taken steroids. But the 'evidence' you've presented doesn't even come close to a probability, at best its conjecture. Though most would characterize it as wild speculation.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
They also help you to recover faster from injuries. Thanks for weighing in.dparker713 said:
dparker713
Footballguy
You seem unwilling or unable to acknowledge they only help muscles recover and that the human body is composed of more than just muscles. Thanks for being obtuse.
