Was the hit on Brady dirty or not? (1 Viewer)

[switz]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

Alrighty then; no point in arguing about it. Folks can watch the clip and decide for themselves what percentage of the contact came from Pollard's lunge and what percentage came from Morris pushing him in that direction.

 

[parrot]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

 

[Billy Bats]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

And he called us fantasy degenerates.

 

[switz]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

 

[parrot]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Please. He didn't get pushed down again, he lunged for Brady as anyone with two eyes can see. The video clearly shows who's preaching "nonsense".

 

[Sheriff66]

How about Wilfork calling fo Pollard to get fined...oh the irony.

That dirty piece of crap needs to close his mouth.

 

[switz]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Please. He didn't get pushed down again, he lunged for Brady as anyone with two eyes can see. The video clearly shows who's preaching "nonsense".

Which is why the NE player clearly wasn't on top of him when he hit Brady Stop, just stop. It wasn't dirty, it wasn't illegal. Rome is right, the NFL is right, and you are not.

 

[twitch]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Nonsense? The guy lunged directly at the knee? What exactly do you need to see that? Pushed into it? Are you completely blind, or do you simply hate New England and the Pats just that much. Morris was on the ground with the guy, but had absolutely nothing to do with the man's motion. He dove forward under his own power. Now, Brady certainly did step up into the pocket. But he was already in position when the guy went for the leg. And Im not suggesting intentional damage here. Simply pointing out the fact that the KC player dove under his own power, and led with his helmet on the knee. Its pretty much clear as day. Rome had 2 guests on discussing the subject, and the one, Rick Telander I believe, suggested they simply need to change the rule to prevent players from future injury.

SVBD, you are absolutely correct. But again, Im not making a case that it was a dirty hit. Just not exactly a clean one. Helmets on knees just dont work together real well.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Watch the video, you're so wrong it's ridiculous.I maintain that it was not a dirty play, but from what I know of the NFL rules, which pretty much forbids hitting a QB low, it could've easily been a penalty.

But definitely not a dirty play imo. Just trying to make a play.

 

[Sheriff66]

Pollard lunged as Brady stepped up, but the play was not dirty in the least.

 

[twitch]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Please. He didn't get pushed down again, he lunged for Brady as anyone with two eyes can see. The video clearly shows who's preaching "nonsense".

Which is why the NE player clearly wasn't on top of him when he hit Brady Stop, just stop. It wasn't dirty, it wasn't illegal. Rome is right, the NFL is right, and you are not.

Oh, the NFL got it right alright. They most certainly did. Exactly like they got the TUCK rule perfectly correct, yet to this day people still want to cry about that. But obviously when players are allowed to make contact directly with a QBs knees in the pocket from any position, specifically with a HELMET, then rules need to be changed.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Pollard lunged as Brady stepped up, but the play was not dirty in the least.

 

[twitch]

Pollard lunged as Brady stepped up, but the play was not dirty in the least.

Point out the guy here calling it a DIRTY play. Noone wants to be that guy. Noone is calling it dirty. We're simply making the case that a guy dove at the knee with his helmet, and if that actually is legal, then it needs to be changed or atleast seriously considered.

 

[switz]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Please. He didn't get pushed down again, he lunged for Brady as anyone with two eyes can see. The video clearly shows who's preaching "nonsense".

Which is why the NE player clearly wasn't on top of him when he hit Brady Stop, just stop. It wasn't dirty, it wasn't illegal. Rome is right, the NFL is right, and you are not.

Oh, the NFL got it right alright. They most certainly did. Exactly like they got the TUCK rule perfectly correct, yet to this day people still want to cry about that. But obviously when players are allowed to make contact directly with a QBs knees in the pocket from any position, specifically with a HELMET, then rules need to be changed.

LOL... and how many times has the tuck rule EVER been called? Give me a break. This type of play goes unflagged all the time. Pollard was engaged with a blocker, period. It wasn't dirty, he didn't aim for the knee. He didn't even think Brady was hurt when he got up. I thought after last season we wouldn't have to put up with Pat's Fan nonsense this year... now we're going to hear whining all season long.

 

[parrot]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Please. He didn't get pushed down again, he lunged for Brady as anyone with two eyes can see. The video clearly shows who's preaching "nonsense".

Which is why the NE player clearly wasn't on top of him when he hit Brady Stop, just stop. It wasn't dirty, it wasn't illegal. Rome is right, the NFL is right, and you are not.

Are you reading this in braille? Because anyone who isn't blind can see that Pollard lunges for Brady and Morris jumps on top of him.

I never said it was dirty, as I don't think it was, but he also wasn't pushed into him. You are flat, plain, laughably wrong on that. But hey, you got Jim Rome on your side, which is nice.

 

[switz]

Pollard lunged as Brady stepped up, but the play was not dirty in the least.

Point out the guy here calling it a DIRTY play. Noone wants to be that guy. Noone is calling it dirty. We're simply making the case that a guy dove at the knee with his helmet, and if that actually is legal, then it needs to be changed or atleast seriously considered.

He didn't dive at the knee with his helmet...Watch it again without your Pats glasses on

 

[switz]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Please. He didn't get pushed down again, he lunged for Brady as anyone with two eyes can see. The video clearly shows who's preaching "nonsense".

Which is why the NE player clearly wasn't on top of him when he hit Brady Stop, just stop. It wasn't dirty, it wasn't illegal. Rome is right, the NFL is right, and you are not.

Are you reading this in braille? Because anyone who isn't blind can see that Pollard lunges for Brady and Morris jumps on top of him.

I never said it was dirty, as I don't think it was, but he also wasn't pushed into him. You are flat, plain, laughably wrong on that. But hey, you got Jim Rome on your side, which is nice.

:36 seconds in, Pollard is trying to get up... Morris hands never leave him, Morris pushes him back down (watch the extension of Morris arms as Pollard's direction changes). At 0:37 Tom takes a small step forward as Pollard is already moving, and they hit. If Tom hadn't stepped forward, Pollard wouldn't have gotten to him. He obviously has bad aim if he was aiming for a knee that wouldn't be there without the QB moving forward... or he could read Brady's mind and knew he was going to take another step.

 

[twitch]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Please. He didn't get pushed down again, he lunged for Brady as anyone with two eyes can see. The video clearly shows who's preaching "nonsense".

Which is why the NE player clearly wasn't on top of him when he hit Brady Stop, just stop. It wasn't dirty, it wasn't illegal. Rome is right, the NFL is right, and you are not.

Oh, the NFL got it right alright. They most certainly did. Exactly like they got the TUCK rule perfectly correct, yet to this day people still want to cry about that. But obviously when players are allowed to make contact directly with a QBs knees in the pocket from any position, specifically with a HELMET, then rules need to be changed.

LOL... and how many times has the tuck rule EVER been called? Give me a break. This type of play goes unflagged all the time. Pollard was engaged with a blocker, period. It wasn't dirty, he didn't aim for the knee. He didn't even think Brady was hurt when he got up. I thought after last season we wouldn't have to put up with Pat's Fan nonsense this year... now we're going to hear whining all season long.

He didnt aim for the knee, yet his HELMET ended up directly ON THE KNEE. Solid And Pollard DIDNT THINK BRADY WAS HURT??? Dude, where do you come up with this stuff? Seriously, man. What propels you to make statements like that. The man recognized the pain immediately as he has clearly pointed out in his statements about how Brady screamed out in pain immediately. His exact word: "He was in alot of pain. When you hear a scream, you know that". Now, what part of those comments would lead you to believe he DIDNT EVEN THINK BRADY WAS HURT??? Dude, youre being completely uncool about all of this. Let it go and move on.

 

[j3r3m3y]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Please. He didn't get pushed down again, he lunged for Brady as anyone with two eyes can see. The video clearly shows who's preaching "nonsense".

Which is why the NE player clearly wasn't on top of him when he hit Brady Stop, just stop. It wasn't dirty, it wasn't illegal. Rome is right, the NFL is right, and you are not.

Are you reading this in braille? Because anyone who isn't blind can see that Pollard lunges for Brady and Morris jumps on top of him.

I never said it was dirty, as I don't think it was, but he also wasn't pushed into him. You are flat, plain, laughably wrong on that. But hey, you got Jim Rome on your side, which is nice.

But he was "engaged" when the contact was made, that is why the play is legal.

 

[twitch]

Pollard lunged as Brady stepped up, but the play was not dirty in the least.

Point out the guy here calling it a DIRTY play. Noone wants to be that guy. Noone is calling it dirty. We're simply making the case that a guy dove at the knee with his helmet, and if that actually is legal, then it needs to be changed or atleast seriously considered.

He didn't dive at the knee with his helmet...Watch it again without your Pats glasses on

Yeah, its always about the HOMER glasses or the obvious bias. Youre sitting here blatantly lying, saying the guy didnt even know Brady was hurt, when he immediately heard the scream as soon as it happened. Weak, buddy. Incredibly weak because youre just revelling in it and its pretty sick.

 

[parrot]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Please. He didn't get pushed down again, he lunged for Brady as anyone with two eyes can see. The video clearly shows who's preaching "nonsense".

Which is why the NE player clearly wasn't on top of him when he hit Brady Stop, just stop. It wasn't dirty, it wasn't illegal. Rome is right, the NFL is right, and you are not.

Oh, the NFL got it right alright. They most certainly did. Exactly like they got the TUCK rule perfectly correct, yet to this day people still want to cry about that. But obviously when players are allowed to make contact directly with a QBs knees in the pocket from any position, specifically with a HELMET, then rules need to be changed.

LOL... and how many times has the tuck rule EVER been called? Give me a break. This type of play goes unflagged all the time. Pollard was engaged with a blocker, period. It wasn't dirty, he didn't aim for the knee. He didn't even think Brady was hurt when he got up. I thought after last season we wouldn't have to put up with Pat's Fan nonsense this year... now we're going to hear whining all season long.

"As soon as the play happened, I said, `Oh, man.' When I heard him scream, I knew it was serious," said the third-year safety. "I came back to the sideline and told (coach Herm Edwards) `That dude's hurt. But it was not intentional, coach, man, I'm sorry.'"Really padding the credibility here. Also, you're the one who appears to be doing most of the whining here.

 

[parrot]

Sorry to bump, but Jim Rome is pissing me off. He and a guest commentator keep saying "not a dirty hit; he was blocked into Brady".

I have already stated my opinion that this was not a dirty hit, but the player DID in fact lunge at Brady in an attempt to make a play.

This notion that he wouldn't have touched Brady if Morris hadn't propelled him into Brady is revisionist on its face.

This is what I'm burning on. [/Rome Rant]

Totally disagree with your take on it. Pollard was pushed down by an NE player into Brady. Pollard did reach to grab Brady, but did not direct his helmet toward Brady's knee, that was the result of the push.

No. Pollard was pushed to the ground, got his knees underneath him, then lunged for Brady's legs, just as Brady was stepping towards him. The second view in this clip makes that pretty obvious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

Uh... no. Pollard got pushed down, tried to get up, and was pushed down again. And yes, Tom was stepping into his throw. Pollard would never have been near Brady if Brady wasn't stepping up, that's how little Pollard "lunged" at Brady. It hurts to lose your QB, but stop making up nonsense.

Please. He didn't get pushed down again, he lunged for Brady as anyone with two eyes can see. The video clearly shows who's preaching "nonsense".

Which is why the NE player clearly wasn't on top of him when he hit Brady Stop, just stop. It wasn't dirty, it wasn't illegal. Rome is right, the NFL is right, and you are not.

Are you reading this in braille? Because anyone who isn't blind can see that Pollard lunges for Brady and Morris jumps on top of him.

I never said it was dirty, as I don't think it was, but he also wasn't pushed into him. You are flat, plain, laughably wrong on that. But hey, you got Jim Rome on your side, which is nice.

But he was "engaged" when the contact was made, that is why the play is legal.

I think that's a reasonable interpretation and never said it was illegal. I'm not even sure what the rule is, I don't really care, it doesn't really matter. I don't think it was dirty. It was a football player making a football play and I certainly don't think he did anything with any intent . But that doesn't mean that silly mischaracterizations like "he was pushed into" him can't be corrected.

 

[gianmarco]

I just thought of something that, in a way, doesn't make too much sense.

Here's a link a youtube although I'm not sure how long it will stay up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT2L3YvOixc

First of all: Switz, you are absolutely amazing. Go to the 0:36 mark. Pollard is down and CLEARLY makes a LUNGE toward Brady. That had NOTHING to do with being engage with Morris and being pushed into him. There is seriously 0 argument there. Pause it at 0:36 and notice Morris is on TOP of Pollard. Pollard clearly LUNGES toward Brady. Now, it does look like Morris may have impacted his attempt to get to Brady at that point, but there is no question that Pollard LUNGED at Brady. 100% clear as day. If you continue to deny that, you seriously need to visit a visual specialist and should probably turn in your driver's license as well.

Second of all: One thing strikes me as odd when I was reading quotes from Pollard. He stated in some of the articles I read:

“As soon as the play happened, I said, `Oh, man.’ When I heard him scream, I knew it was serious,” said the third-year safety. “I came back to the sideline and told (coach Herm Edwards) `That dude’s hurt. But it was not intentional, coach, man, I’m sorry.”’

The thing is, when you watch the video, Pollard immediately stands up after hitting Brady and turns to look upfield and starts walking away. Now, of course, I'm not saying he should quit on the play, but you would think there would be at least a slight moment of hesitancy if he truly heard Brady yell out and felt badly or responsible. It was as if it didn't even happen and he removing himself. Most times I've seen guys get injured in any sport, the person causing the injury will usually at least look concerned or stop what they were doing if they hear or see something that indicates someone was hurt badly. From his quotes, it tries to indicate that was the case, but his actions on the video show the opposite to me. Now, it's very possible I'm reading into it more than need be or maybe he's referring to hearing him afterward or what not, but something just doesn't feel right about that whole scenario. Not trying to imply it's dirty at all, just that something doesn't jive.

 

[TxBuckeye]

 

[Joe Bryant]

Please turn it way down. TIA.

J

 

[Andy Herron]

Why is this thread even still here?

It's a non-issue.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Please turn it way down. TIA.J

Just getting back to this and the league didn't fine Pollard so consider me shocked; this post is my mea culpa. As I said earlier, I do not think Pollard intentionally tried to injure anyone, but there is no question in my mind he went low at the qb of his own volition and I always believed (particularly in the last few years) that to do that was illegal; apparently the league feels otherwise. FTR, Pollard went low on Mooris (Morris didn't knock him to the ground) and then Pollard again went low on Brady (albeit as he was fighting around Morris) and hit him with his helmut. It's over and done with and I am not posting to continue fighting a losing battle; the league has ruled and that is that. However, when this happens again (a player lunges from his knees and hits a qb low) and it surely will, I will feel the exact same way (it shouldn't be allowed). It should not be legal and I will feel the same way whether it is Brady, Manning, Cutler, Favre or anyone else. Intent is irrelevant, players should not be allowed to lunge/dive low at QBs. I shant post in this thread again.

 

[Vintage_Football]

Moss was only 50 yards away from the play and does not know when to keep his mouth shut.

Lol...and you were much closer with a closed mouth?

 

[j3r3m3y]

Please turn it way down. TIA.J

Just getting back to this and the league didn't fine Pollard so consider me shocked; this post is my mea culpa. As I said earlier, I do not think Pollard intentionally tried to injure anyone, but there is no question in my mind he went low at the qb of his own volition and I always believed (particularly in the last few years) that to do that was illegal; apparently the league feels otherwise. FTR, Pollard went low on Mooris (Morris didn't knock him to the ground) and then Pollard again went low on Brady (albeit as he was fighting around Morris) and hit him with his helmut. It's over and done with and I am not posting to continue fighting a losing battle; the league has ruled and that is that. However, when this happens again (a player lunges from his knees and hits a qb low) and it surely will, I will feel the exact same way (it shouldn't be allowed). It should not be legal and I will feel the same way whether it is Brady, Manning, Cutler, Favre or anyone else. Intent is irrelevant, players should not be allowed to lunge/dive low at QBs. I shant post in this thread again.

It seems like a tough sport. Maybe they should wear helmets or something.

 

[two_dollars]

It's football.. people get hurt. If you really want to start protecting people, do something about the linemen. If there was a camera closeup on the OL/DL battles, some of you might be shocked to see what is allowed in there.

 

[CincyBengal]

I attended the playoff game where Palmer got hurt and it was hard to swallow that it was not a dirty hit. Your passion for the team and Palmer made you blind to the facts. I told my buddy I was at the game with that if that was Manning or Brady who got hit it would be all over the media and there would be an outrage. Over time I just had to accept that Kimo wasn't trying to intentionally hurt Palmer (much worse than Brady,mind you). The plays were very similiar and I would have liked to see a 15 yard penalty for both in a perfect world , but no fine. Wilfolk put his damn elbow out for good measure like a WWE wrestler when he hit Losman, totally different. Football is football and unless they wear red jersey's like practice than whats the point of playing the games. By the way for such a "lame" topic and poll this sure did elicit some good responses.