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We haven't had a musical draft here for a while :shrug: (1 Viewer)
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timschochet
Footballguy
I'm up for one, but I won't run it.
Eephus
Footballguy
Past formats have included:
Themed mixtapes: not much sniping but it's nice to be able to listen to the results
Desert island albums: we've done most formats already though
Supergroups, e.g. best oboist
Category variations
Gr00vus
Footballguy
There was a Norwegian artist category in one of the more recent drafts we did. I won that one handily with my Little Dragon selection.
Eephus
Footballguy
I think that was the dealers choice mixtape draft. That was fun although it was pretty hard to create a cohesive mix out of a grab bag of categories.There was a Norwegian artist category in one of the more recent drafts we did. I won that one handily with my Little Dragon selection.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
Here is a theme that I think would strike a decent balance between actual competition for picks and learning a bit about each drafter likes (or will at least tolerate).Past formats have included:
Themed mixtapes: not much sniping but it's nice to be able to listen to the results
Desert island albums: we've done most formats already though
Supergroups, e.g. best oboist
Category variations
"The Legitimately Popular Music Draft". Figure breaking down by five year periods starting in 1965 and you have to pick a song that charted as high as #5 (or #3 or #1 depending on how restrictive you want to make it) on the main Billboard chart. That would be 10 songs. 65-70, 71-74, 75-79, 80-84, 85-89, 90-94, 95-99. 00-04, 05-09, 10-15. For the rest of the 20, you have to pick a song that charted on either the Country or R&B charts for those eras, but you can only have five from each chart.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I like it. Except the part where I have to take Country music songs - Country music is not my thing.Here is a theme that I think would strike a decent balance between actual competition for picks and learning a bit about each drafter likes (or will at least tolerate).Past formats have included:
Themed mixtapes: not much sniping but it's nice to be able to listen to the results
Desert island albums: we've done most formats already though
Supergroups, e.g. best oboist
Category variations
"The Legitimately Popular Music Draft". Figure breaking down by five year periods starting in 1965 and you have to pick a song that charted as high as #5 (or #3 or #1 depending on how restrictive you want to make it) on the main Billboard chart. That would be 10 songs. 65-70, 71-74, 75-79, 80-84, 85-89, 90-94, 95-99. 00-04, 05-09, 10-15. For the rest of the 20, you have to pick a song that charted on either the Country or R&B charts for those eras, but you can only have five from each chart.
Eephus
Footballguy
#1 records are readily available on Wikipedia but I think Billboard hides historical chart information behind a paywallHere is a theme that I think would strike a decent balance between actual competition for picks and learning a bit about each drafter likes (or will at least tolerate).Past formats have included:
Themed mixtapes: not much sniping but it's nice to be able to listen to the results
Desert island albums: we've done most formats already though
Supergroups, e.g. best oboist
Category variations
"The Legitimately Popular Music Draft". Figure breaking down by five year periods starting in 1965 and you have to pick a song that charted as high as #5 (or #3 or #1 depending on how restrictive you want to make it) on the main Billboard chart. That would be 10 songs. 65-70, 71-74, 75-79, 80-84, 85-89, 90-94, 95-99. 00-04, 05-09, 10-15. For the rest of the 20, you have to pick a song that charted on either the Country or R&B charts for those eras, but you can only have five from each chart.
Eephus
Footballguy
Norway is a countryI like it. Except the part where I have to take Country music songs - Country music is not my thing.Here is a theme that I think would strike a decent balance between actual competition for picks and learning a bit about each drafter likes (or will at least tolerate).Past formats have included:
Themed mixtapes: not much sniping but it's nice to be able to listen to the results
Desert island albums: we've done most formats already though
Supergroups, e.g. best oboist
Category variations
"The Legitimately Popular Music Draft". Figure breaking down by five year periods starting in 1965 and you have to pick a song that charted as high as #5 (or #3 or #1 depending on how restrictive you want to make it) on the main Billboard chart. That would be 10 songs. 65-70, 71-74, 75-79, 80-84, 85-89, 90-94, 95-99. 00-04, 05-09, 10-15. For the rest of the 20, you have to pick a song that charted on either the Country or R&B charts for those eras, but you can only have five from each chart.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Hooray for loopholes!Norway is a countryI like it. Except the part where I have to take Country music songs - Country music is not my thing.Here is a theme that I think would strike a decent balance between actual competition for picks and learning a bit about each drafter likes (or will at least tolerate).Past formats have included:
Themed mixtapes: not much sniping but it's nice to be able to listen to the results
Desert island albums: we've done most formats already though
Supergroups, e.g. best oboist
Category variations
"The Legitimately Popular Music Draft". Figure breaking down by five year periods starting in 1965 and you have to pick a song that charted as high as #5 (or #3 or #1 depending on how restrictive you want to make it) on the main Billboard chart. That would be 10 songs. 65-70, 71-74, 75-79, 80-84, 85-89, 90-94, 95-99. 00-04, 05-09, 10-15. For the rest of the 20, you have to pick a song that charted on either the Country or R&B charts for those eras, but you can only have five from each chart.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Is this a recent happening?#1 records are readily available on Wikipedia but I think Billboard hides historical chart information behind a paywallHere is a theme that I think would strike a decent balance between actual competition for picks and learning a bit about each drafter likes (or will at least tolerate).Past formats have included:
Themed mixtapes: not much sniping but it's nice to be able to listen to the results
Desert island albums: we've done most formats already though
Supergroups, e.g. best oboist
Category variations
"The Legitimately Popular Music Draft". Figure breaking down by five year periods starting in 1965 and you have to pick a song that charted as high as #5 (or #3 or #1 depending on how restrictive you want to make it) on the main Billboard chart. That would be 10 songs. 65-70, 71-74, 75-79, 80-84, 85-89, 90-94, 95-99. 00-04, 05-09, 10-15. For the rest of the 20, you have to pick a song that charted on either the Country or R&B charts for those eras, but you can only have five from each chart.
If we can crack that issue I would love to be in ...but no country. Early rock can get pretty country sounding but that's as far I could go.
ETA: Tunecaster seems like it could work.
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Eephus
Footballguy
The link Binky posted yesterday looks like it'll work. My only problem with a hits oriented draft is it takes something away from the discovery side, which is a big part of these drafts for me. I suspect people will have heard most of the hits in one form or another, although it is interesting to see which songs were chart toppers and which ones weren't.
ETA: I'm OK w/ this format if that's what people want.
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Mr. Ected
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Like the time period idea, if the idea is to learn about drafter likes, forcing them to pick outside their realms sort of defeats that. You could do something like pre 60s, 60s, others like you had them, and leave a couple for people to choose non-charting favorites, or outside main billboard, and go for 15.Is this a recent happening?#1 records are readily available on Wikipedia but I think Billboard hides historical chart information behind a paywallHere is a theme that I think would strike a decent balance between actual competition for picks and learning a bit about each drafter likes (or will at least tolerate).Past formats have included:
Themed mixtapes: not much sniping but it's nice to be able to listen to the results
Desert island albums: we've done most formats already though
Supergroups, e.g. best oboist
Category variations
"The Legitimately Popular Music Draft". Figure breaking down by five year periods starting in 1965 and you have to pick a song that charted as high as #5 (or #3 or #1 depending on how restrictive you want to make it) on the main Billboard chart. That would be 10 songs. 65-70, 71-74, 75-79, 80-84, 85-89, 90-94, 95-99. 00-04, 05-09, 10-15. For the rest of the 20, you have to pick a song that charted on either the Country or R&B charts for those eras, but you can only have five from each chart.
If we can crack that issue I would love to be in ...but no country. Early rock can get pretty country sounding but that's as far I could go.
ETA: Tunecaster seems like it could work.
Eephus
Footballguy
Tunecaster uses a source other than Billboard for its lists. I spot checked #1 pop songs for a few dates and found a lot of inconsistencies between the two sources.
This site compiles Billboard pop charts from 1955 until it ends abruptly in January 2014. It lists the highest chart position for each song which is what's needed for Scooby's suggested format. The site search appears to be text based rather than a database but it sort of works.
This site is similar but has better search capabilities and goes back to 1940 but charges to view historical lists of songs that peaked lower than #11.
This site compiles Billboard pop charts from 1955 until it ends abruptly in January 2014. It lists the highest chart position for each song which is what's needed for Scooby's suggested format. The site search appears to be text based rather than a database but it sort of works.
This site is similar but has better search capabilities and goes back to 1940 but charges to view historical lists of songs that peaked lower than #11.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
That last one looks pretty good. Count me as wanting to get in if we get enough people.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I'd consider drafting, if it's okay.
zamboni
Footballguy
I agree with this. When you ask people to pick a genre and/or time period that they know little about, you just wind up indiscriminately picking something merely for the sake of filling a category.
I'm a fan of a bit more open-ended draft themes, but I can live with what the masses want.
AcerFC
Footballguy
I drove down your street a few weeks ago yelling zamboni out my window. No one came so I figured you werent home
Tusken Raider
Footballguy
Was a fun (& controversial) category for me to judge in "The Great Rock And Roll Draft" thread several years back. The "What is Rock & Roll?" debate was interesting, & I think we decided to focus on "Rock" music (no R&B, folk, etc). Aretha Franklin as a "rock & roll" artist was a sore subject for a minute until we sorted this out.
Eephus
Footballguy
I think the distaff format has potential. I like mixtapes personally but it could work for artists as well
1 song from a female solo artist and band for each decade: pre-60, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s = 14 tracks. No genre restrictions or time limits.
Solo/artist split is based solely on how they're billed. Blondie is a band, Deborah Harry is a solo artist, Katrina and the Waves is a band. A band is considered female either by having the female principal vocalist or two or more women members (Talking Heads doesn't qualify). You can make your own arguments about Against Me, X or Arcade Fire.
El Floppo
Footballguy
X = of course (just John Doe and it's not X)
Arcade Fire... come on- there's like 90 people in that band- I'd expect at least one of everything that are completely replaceable minus the lead singer.
There are bands out there that use female singers who are more 1a and b to the 1 male lead singer, than true backing vocalists... those are trickier calls, but fall into the X category, IMO.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
I think the female/male singer thing would be obvious in a mixtape format. You wouldn't want to pick a Fleetwood Mac song with Lindsey Buckingham lead vocals.
Eephus
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
skol asylum
Footballguy
I remember being in one years ago where we drafted musicians for a rock band. That was fun. I think I named my band The Rapture.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
I might need a little help refining this suggestion, but solo songs from band members where the band was much more popular than the solo artist.
Examples:
Valid Pick: New York Groove by Ace Frehley
Valid Pick: It Don't Come Easy by Ringo Starr
Invalid Pick: Anything by Peter Frampton.
Invalid Pick: Anything by Paul McCartney (this one is slightly grey, but I think you all get the idea)
Examples:
Valid Pick: New York Groove by Ace Frehley
Valid Pick: It Don't Come Easy by Ringo Starr
Invalid Pick: Anything by Peter Frampton.
Invalid Pick: Anything by Paul McCartney (this one is slightly grey, but I think you all get the idea)
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Eephus
Footballguy
That could work. There would probably be some disputes about what constitutes a solo project but debate is good as long as nobody takes it too seriously.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
I like it, too. Could also be some dispute about whether the band was bigger than the solo artist, or vice versa, but taking out that stipulation may make it cleaner.
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