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[IC FBGCav]

But utterly useless.  Tell me what Obama and Trump have done to make middle class USA better.

Both IMO have failed huge.

 

[timschochet]

Obama’s Supreme Court appointments will hopefully protect the right of middle class women to have abortions. 

Trump’s prison reform efforts will be beneficial to middle class minorities and society as a whole. 

First things that came to mind. 

 

[Henry Ford]

Obama cut taxes for the majority of Americans and raised them on the rich. 
 

But yes, it would have been much better if the American Jobs Act, blocked by Republicans, had passed. 

 

[IC FBGCav]

Obama cut taxes for the majority of Americans and raised them on the rich. 
 

But yes, it would have been much better if the American Jobs Act, blocked by Republicans, had passed. 

But the bailout...this would be nice but the truth is total wealth transfer. 

 

[IC FBGCav]

Obama’s Supreme Court appointments will hopefully protect the right of middle class women to have abortions. 

Trump’s prison reform efforts will be beneficial to middle class minorities and society as a whole. 

First things that came to mind. 

Obama’s Supreme Court appointments will hopefully protect the right of middle class women to have abortions. 

Trump’s prison reform efforts will be beneficial to middle class minorities and society as a whole. 

First things that came to mind. 

Has this exceeded the harm they done?

 

[Henry Ford]

But the bailout...this would be nice but the truth is total wealth transfer. 

Can you be more specific about “the bailout?”  Because the overwhelming majority of what people refer to as “the bailout” was signed into law before he was even elected, much less took office. 

 

[IC FBGCav]

Let's say Bush signed a bail out for Wall Street.  Why do I care the Obama let millions of people lose their homes?

 

[HellToupee]

Let's say Bush signed a bail out for Wall Street.  Why do I care the Obama let millions of people lose their homes?

but they’re free to have abortions

Unfortunately what we knew as the middle class is gone. Now it seems it’s the productive/unproductive class. Really don’t know the answer to help people on the lower end of the productive spectrum.

good topic btw

 

[Kal El]

Obama’s Supreme Court appointments will hopefully protect the right of middle class women to have abortions. 

Trump’s prison reform efforts will be beneficial to middle class minorities and society as a whole. 

First things that came to mind. 

Honestly, if abortions were rendered unnecessary(not illegal, big difference), whether by effective birth control or other means, I'd be happy.

 

[tonydead]

Honestly, if abortions were rendered unnecessary(not illegal, big difference), whether by effective birth control or other means, I'd be happy.

Mandatory vasectomy program or full blown eunuch?

 

[Henry Ford]

Let's say Bush signed a bail out for Wall Street.  Why do I care the Obama let millions of people lose their homes?

I don't think I understand the question.

 

[Kal El]

Mandatory vasectomy program or full blown eunuch?

Those both sound bad, but I guess the former is less permanent? Of course, surgery should be way down the list of options.