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Week 1 Defense Picks (2 Viewers)

tjnc09

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For those of you who rotate defenses, who are you targeting in your draft late for week 1?

Indianapolis is on the road at Chicago, but I suspect Chicago will be selected earlier than the last few rounds.

Cleveland is at home against Philadelphia - not a fan of playing a road defense if can be avoided.

Depending on Lynch's possible suspension, Arizona might be a possibility.

Jacksonville at Minnesota looks like the strongest contender and there is also a good chance for a special teams TD.

Any other suggestions?

 
Minnesota is a solid last round pick if all the good Defenses are gone, like the jacksonville matchup week1

and in week 2 they play Indy.

then hit the wire

 
Even though they are on the road, Seattle looks like a decent option instead of Arizona. They host Dallas in week 2 at home - their OL looks like a mess.

 
Cincy starts the season with BAL-CLE-WAS-JAC-MIA-CLE. Week 1 isn't ideal, but after that it could be 5 straight games against QBs who are either rookies or Gabbert.

 
Jacksonville at Minnesota looks like the strongest contender and there is also a good chance for a special teams TD.Any other suggestions?
Wondering if people are picking the wrong defense in this game.
Most people are going to pick based on last season. If someone chooses to ignore the off season and preseason, Jax opening on the road looks like a good match up for the Vikes. If you look at preseason Gabbert has only been sacked once, has no picks and the Jags have scored fairly easily with the first team offense. I have to think there are better choices for a week 1 waiver wire D.
 
Jacksonville at Minnesota looks like the strongest contender and there is also a good chance for a special teams TD.Any other suggestions?
Wondering if people are picking the wrong defense in this game.
Most people are going to pick based on last season. If someone chooses to ignore the off season and preseason, Jax opening on the road looks like a good match up for the Vikes. If you look at preseason Gabbert has only been sacked once, has no picks and the Jags have scored fairly easily with the first team offense. I have to think there are better choices for a week 1 waiver wire D.
I would chalk this up to Gabbert facing preseason simplified defenses. He needs to prove it to me in the regular season. I'm thinking that when he faces better defenses and has a few defenders breathing down his neck he will get happy feet and either be sacked or throw a pick. I can see at least 2 sacks and a pick in week 1.
 
Bills D is gonna feast on the Jets week 1..5 sacks, 2 iinterceptions, fumble recovery..and perhaps a TD. Gonna be the Mario Williams show boys and girls!

 
Cincy starts the season with BAL-CLE-WAS-JAC-MIA-CLE. Week 1 isn't ideal, but after that it could be 5 straight games against QBs who are either rookies or Gabbert.
I drafted Cincy and Minny in one league just for these matchups....very juicy
 
Jacksonville at Minnesota looks like the strongest contender and there is also a good chance for a special teams TD.Any other suggestions?
Wondering if people are picking the wrong defense in this game.
Most people are going to pick based on last season. If someone chooses to ignore the off season and preseason, Jax opening on the road looks like a good match up for the Vikes. If you look at preseason Gabbert has only been sacked once, has no picks and the Jags have scored fairly easily with the first team offense. I have to think there are better choices for a week 1 waiver wire D.
Preseason....in that dome on the road Jared Allen will feast on Gabbert. Inexperienced Qb with rookies WR and a FA WR and back up RB is a good bet in week 1....
 
Anyone thinking Oakland against chargers week one? Offensive line looks horrible rivers is a turn over machine most likely no Matthews?

 
Bills D is gonna feast on the Jets week 1..5 sacks, 2 iinterceptions, fumble recovery..and perhaps a TD. Gonna be the Mario Williams show boys and girls!
This is my pick as well. Their late-season schedule is ridiculous as well - Jets, Dolphins, etc. Hang on to them if they perform well week 1.
 
Bills D is gonna feast on the Jets week 1..5 sacks, 2 iinterceptions, fumble recovery..and perhaps a TD. Gonna be the Mario Williams show boys and girls!
This is my pick as well. Their late-season schedule is ridiculous as well - Jets, Dolphins, etc. Hang on to them if they perform well week 1.
:thumbup: Jets haven't scored at all yet, they might not have a TD until week 3 when they get Miami.
 
I'm on the Bills bandwagon as well. Even though they haven't looked great in the preseason, the Jets have looked horrendous on offense.

 
Jacksonville at Minnesota looks like the strongest contender and there is also a good chance for a special teams TD.Any other suggestions?
Wondering if people are picking the wrong defense in this game.
Most people are going to pick based on last season. If someone chooses to ignore the off season and preseason, Jax opening on the road looks like a good match up for the Vikes. If you look at preseason Gabbert has only been sacked once, has no picks and the Jags have scored fairly easily with the first team offense. I have to think there are better choices for a week 1 waiver wire D.
That will be Justin Blackmon coming out party he's gonna scorch bikes secondary I'm say 125 yds and 2 TdsPreseason....in that dome on the road Jared Allen will feast on Gabbert. Inexperienced Qb with rookies WR and a FA WR and back up RB is a good bet in week 1....
 
It's a :homer: pick but I think the Eagles D week one will put up some point. Rookie QB versus the wide 9 sack machine.

 
It's a :homer: pick but I think the Eagles D week one will put up some point. Rookie QB versus the wide 9 sack machine.
Eagles are ranked #1 DST week 1 in my mind (for usual drafted DSTs). But, OP I believe is talking waiver wire DSTs... In which I agree Bills DST vs Jets is were I'm going off the wire. :shark:
 
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Bills D is gonna feast on the Jets week 1..5 sacks, 2 iinterceptions, fumble recovery..and perhaps a TD. Gonna be the Mario Williams show boys and girls!
This is my pick as well. Their late-season schedule is ridiculous as well - Jets, Dolphins, etc. Hang on to them if they perform well week 1.
:thumbup: Jets haven't scored at all yet, they might not have a TD until week 3 when they get Miami.
:yawn: this "haven't scored" thing is ridiculous. The PS means nothing. Don't trick yourself into thinking it matters. The biggest reason that the jets havent scored is because over half of their offense has been Teebow as a pocket passer. Don't belive the hype. The jets will score tds in week 1 and two.
 
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I'd just caution against going with a D that you don't think is particularly good just because their opponent is bad. Airzona's D has looked decent but they have no playmakers outside Peterson, and their QB (whoever it is) will be putting them behind the 8 ball a lot.

I think either side of Jets Bills will be good.

 
The Vikings look like they could be a pretty nice play with MJD likely not playing or being very limited and with Gabbert still being a turnover machine.

 
The Vikings look like they could be a pretty nice play with MJD likely not playing or being very limited and with Gabbert still being a turnover machine.
Yep, I'm all over them for Week 1. Expect Jared Allen to have a couple sacks, hopefully the team forces a few turnovers, and maybe even a Special Teams TD.Also, say what you want about the Metrodome, but week 1, the crowd is going to be insanely loud. For a team like the Jags, that can't be an easy place to play off the bat.
 
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In alot of my drafts I have been targeting buffalo and Seattle. Buffalo week one against the jets seems great

 
Anyone going with the Lions at home to the Rams?

The Rams don't have much at WR and will be playing from behind.

Would guess this could be a lot of sacks for Avril/Suh.

 
Second the Lions for the first 4 weeks

Vs. Rams, @San Fran, @Tenn, vs. Vikings ... bye in week 5. Not a bad option to olug and play for the first third of the FF reg season.

 
For those of you who rotate defenses, who are you targeting in your draft late for week 1?

Depending on Lynch's possible suspension, Arizona might be a possibility.Any other suggestions?
It doesn't look like Lynch will be suspended but even if he is I would much rather take the other side of this and play the Seahawks against whichever QB(s) the Cardinals have to use behind a terrible offensive line.

 
Seattle will be a top 3 defense for the entire season. You all are sleeping on them. And for the guy who mentioned picking Arizona defense vs. the Seahawks for week 1....you are in for a rude awakening come Sept. 9th.

 
Big question is what two-three teams will emerge to be the ones that you want to start their opponent every week. I think the Cards are one, Miami is probably another, and possibly the Rams.

 
Seattle will be a top 3 defense for the entire season. You all are sleeping on them. And for the guy who mentioned picking Arizona defense vs. the Seahawks for week 1....you are in for a rude awakening come Sept. 9th.
I'm super super high on the Seattle D but I think top 3 entire season is over simplifying it. They play too many 2011 top 5 offenses (4 of them actually) in the first 8 weeks to call them top 3 all year. I think they're a top 3 matchup play the first half of the season, and potentially the #1 overall defense the second half of the season.Broken down by opponent, red = 2011 top 8 offense, green = 2011 bottom 8 offense. Ratings by 2011 points scored, over simplistic I know, but generally a solid metric for offensive strength.

@ Arizona Cardinals

Dallas Cowboys

Green Bay Packers

@ St. Louis Rams

@ Carolina Panthers

New England Patriots

@ San Francisco 49ers

@ Detroit Lions

Minnesota Vikings

New York Jets

Bye Week

@ Miami Dolphins

@ Chicago Bears

Arizona Cardinals

@ Buffalo Bills

San Francisco 49ers

St. Louis Rams

Now basing our 2012 expectations off of 2012 results isn't recommended but combining that with what we've seen in the pre-season, there's no reason to expect GB, CAR, NE or DET to regress significantly, nor is there a lot of hope for AZ and STL to suddenly become offensive juggernauts. The remaining teams were all ranked 10-20 in points scored last year, and it looks like MIA and NYJ could certainly regress into a bottom 25% offense, while the potential exists for DAL and MIN to take a step up and join the upper echelon offensive squads. Even if MIN does step up, it's relatively clear sailing after the bye week.

So while I think the Seahawks have a definite top 5 (on the field and fantasy) defensive unit, you'll get a lot better results if you don't roll them out as your every week starter. Combining them with Cincinnati looks like pure win, and the Minny/SEA combo eliminates a couple of those matchups against elite offenses.

Thanks for posting this thread, streaming D threads are among my favorite shark pool reading.

 
:yawn: this "haven't scored" thing is ridiculous. The PS means nothing. Don't trick yourself into thinking it matters. The biggest reason that the jets havent scored is because over half of their offense has been Teebow as a pocket passer. Don't belive the hype. The jets will score tds in week 1 and two.
:no: Preseason means nothing was used to explain SF in '05, Oakland in '06, and Carolina in '10 and they looked bad in preseason, and were worse during the season. (I didn't play FF in 07, 08, or 09 so I can't comment on those years). The final score means nothing. How the second and third and fourth stringers play means nothing. Poor play from the first string players in all 4 games is a warning sign.

 
Big question is what two-three teams will emerge to be the ones that you want to start their opponent every week. I think the Cards are one, Miami is probably another, and possibly the Rams.
:yawn: this "haven't scored" thing is ridiculous. The PS means nothing. Don't trick yourself into thinking it matters. The biggest reason that the jets havent scored is because over half of their offense has been Teebow as a pocket passer. Don't belive the hype. The jets will score tds in week 1 and two.
:no: Preseason means nothing was used to explain SF in '05, Oakland in '06, and Carolina in '10 and they looked bad in preseason, and were worse during the season. (I didn't play FF in 07, 08, or 09 so I can't comment on those years). The final score means nothing. How the second and third and fourth stringers play means nothing. Poor play from the first string players in all 4 games is a warning sign.
J-E-T-S :bag:
 
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The Vikings look like they could be a pretty nice play with MJD likely not playing or being very limited and with Gabbert still being a turnover machine.
People seem to be banking on this alot.
He was truly awful last year. Preseason results really don't mean much, in my eyes. If he consistently gets through some regular season games without turning it over much, than that's one thing. But right now, I love the Vikings D against him and the Jags.
 
Seattle will be a top 3 defense for the entire season. You all are sleeping on them. And for the guy who mentioned picking Arizona defense vs. the Seahawks for week 1....you are in for a rude awakening come Sept. 9th.
I'm super super high on the Seattle D but I think top 3 entire season is over simplifying it. They play too many 2011 top 5 offenses (4 of them actually) in the first 8 weeks to call them top 3 all year. I think they're a top 3 matchup play the first half of the season, and potentially the #1 overall defense the second half of the season.Broken down by opponent, red = 2011 top 8 offense, green = 2011 bottom 8 offense. Ratings by 2011 points scored, over simplistic I know, but generally a solid metric for offensive strength.

@ Arizona Cardinals

Dallas Cowboys

Green Bay Packers

@ St. Louis Rams

@ Carolina Panthers

New England Patriots

@ San Francisco 49ers

@ Detroit Lions

Minnesota Vikings

New York Jets

Bye Week

@ Miami Dolphins

@ Chicago Bears

Arizona Cardinals

@ Buffalo Bills

San Francisco 49ers

St. Louis Rams

Now basing our 2012 expectations off of 2012 results isn't recommended but combining that with what we've seen in the pre-season, there's no reason to expect GB, CAR, NE or DET to regress significantly, nor is there a lot of hope for AZ and STL to suddenly become offensive juggernauts. The remaining teams were all ranked 10-20 in points scored last year, and it looks like MIA and NYJ could certainly regress into a bottom 25% offense, while the potential exists for DAL and MIN to take a step up and join the upper echelon offensive squads. Even if MIN does step up, it's relatively clear sailing after the bye week.

So while I think the Seahawks have a definite top 5 (on the field and fantasy) defensive unit, you'll get a lot better results if you don't roll them out as your every week starter. Combining them with Cincinnati looks like pure win, and the Minny/SEA combo eliminates a couple of those matchups against elite offenses.

Thanks for posting this thread, streaming D threads are among my favorite shark pool reading.
no way you play Seattle vs GB,Dallas, Detroit or NEpats early in the year.Play em vs Zona, then cut, then pick up after theGB game to play vs STL.

WW defense supreme

 
The Vikings look like they could be a pretty nice play with MJD likely not playing or being very limited and with Gabbert still being a turnover machine.
People seem to be banking on this alot.
He was truly awful last year. Preseason results really don't mean much, in my eyes. If he consistently gets through some regular season games without turning it over much, than that's one thing. But right now, I love the Vikings D against him and the Jags.
But last year's results with different system and much worse receivers do?I'm not expecting him to set the world on fire. But I'm expecting him to look somewhat close to a competent NFL QB, which he clearly didn't last year.

New coaching staff has worked on his mechanics and has him getting rid of the ball sooner and more decisively.

 
The Vikings look like they could be a pretty nice play with MJD likely not playing or being very limited and with Gabbert still being a turnover machine.
People seem to be banking on this alot.
He was truly awful last year. Preseason results really don't mean much, in my eyes. If he consistently gets through some regular season games without turning it over much, than that's one thing. But right now, I love the Vikings D against him and the Jags.
But last year's results with different system and much worse receivers do?I'm not expecting him to set the world on fire. But I'm expecting him to look somewhat close to a competent NFL QB, which he clearly didn't last year.

New coaching staff has worked on his mechanics and has him getting rid of the ball sooner and more decisively.
So he'll throw his INT's a little quicker and with more conviction.
 
I grabbed Houston for their start vs. Miami and Jax, and will try to add Cincy for weeks 3-6 once waivers open up. Not sure if Houston will be worth holding throughout the season for their playoffs vs. Indy and Minn. That's a long time from now, and would necessitate carrying two defenses all season, which I generally hate to do. It's a tasty playoff plan in August, but maybe the Colts and Vikes take steps forward.

But I'll take the Texans' first two weeks against any other team out there.

 
The Vikings look like they could be a pretty nice play with MJD likely not playing or being very limited and with Gabbert still being a turnover machine.
People seem to be banking on this alot.
He was truly awful last year. Preseason results really don't mean much, in my eyes. If he consistently gets through some regular season games without turning it over much, than that's one thing. But right now, I love the Vikings D against him and the Jags.
But last year's results with different system and much worse receivers do?I'm not expecting him to set the world on fire. But I'm expecting him to look somewhat close to a competent NFL QB, which he clearly didn't last year.

New coaching staff has worked on his mechanics and has him getting rid of the ball sooner and more decisively.
Regardless of a new system or not, the evidence I have in the regular season, is enough to think on the road, in a loud dome, on opening week, is enough to start the Vikings.
 

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