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The curious case of Alshon Jeffrey. In two of his four games he starts out great and doesn't get anything in the second half. He's been open a couple of times for long tds, but the passes were too short (e.g. game against Dallas he caught a long pass that should have easily been a td). I didn't watch this week's game. I imagine the nagging injuries are having some impact, but I think the QB play is the biggest factor.
Good luck with that.Hawkeye21 said:
If somebody offers me Shephard for Miller, I'd counter with Fozzy for RobinsonBayhawks said:
Thanks. Right now I'm going after Elliott. The guy who owns him is winless so maybe he's desperate. It's worth a shot.
I agree with this but I don't think we have hit that point yet. We are only through 4 games. I have a lot of RB depth now but I am going to wait a little before I start moving it. The RB position is to volatile. I like have a few backups in case someone goes down. Once we hit around week 8 I will look to upgrade by moving some.
My league has 24 teams in it and we play two teams every week. I am currently 6-2 but there is a team in my conference that is 0-8. It's pretty hard to come back from that.
It doesn't matter how many games you play each week. In your format being 0-8 is exactly the same as being 0-4 in a play one game a week. You are still only 30% of the way through the season.
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It's not the same at all because there are going to be weeks where you split. What is the exactly the same as? That's a half game that you're down now. It's hard to win two games each week, harder than it is to win one.
1. We all have "that guy" in our leagues who throws out ####ty offers and tries to convince others that it is a good deal just because X is out performing Y for the first 4 weeks - don't be that guy.
I never understood the mentality and attitude from members here about making trades. Fantasy football is meant to be fun and part of that is trying to negotiate trades. Everyone's opinions on players is different and you never know what you're going to get unless you try. If you get offended by a trade offer then I feel bad for you. If I get offered a ridiculous trade I just laugh and tell them no or shoot back a counter offer to let them know where I'm at. There don't have to be too many feelings involved.
I agree the whole point of trading is to improve your team. I could care less if I get the reputation of winning every trade or most of them. I have half the league already that won't deal with me many are afraid and winning does that not so much winning trades. Most people trade in my short bench league because of bye week issues and managing the short bench. They tend to miss the playoffs every year. The purpose of the buy low/sell high thread is to target players we MAY think other owners are down on and will start to preform. Selling high on players we MAY think will crap the bed.
Just saying that I am sure a lot of us have that guy in our league that peppers people with 20 one sided trade offers for the same guys. Not offended, but it does take the fun out of it when I see my inbox lit up with ####ty offers. Not saying you are that guy, just suggesting that you don't be that guy.
Yahoo and ESPN unfortunately only limits you to 6 offers. Just decline them. Never bothers me getting a ton of those offers.
My league has zero action. There are 24 people and there are rarely any posts on the message board and there has only been one trade made so far. I'm not sure what the deal is but it makes it kind of boring. The waiver wire stays pretty busy though.
Same here - We have about 4 guys that will trade, the other 8 are "I like my team" and are 0-4 Nobody is for sale. It's frustrating that more than half the league is impossible to trade for even if you can help them with a 2 for 1. Part of that is it's short bench and waivers has plenty of starters. Each year is a battle but that's what makes it fun is trying to get in some sort of negotiations.
Yeah, I would be one of those guys that frustrates you. I put a lot of effort into my drafts, so it's a combo of wanting to be right and being stubborn, so I usually hang onto my guys. That plus years of being on the wrong side of trades, and I have learned that I am usually better at drafting and waivers than I am at getting fair trades. I will trade a couple times a year to shake things up, but trading isn't what makes FF fun for me. Like you said, if it's short bench and there are people on waivers, it makes it even harder.
They actually are, almost always. - They are 0-4 for a reason. They either have a slew of injuries or the mentality of I'll just claim someone off waivers. I played against Crowder, Michael, Enunwa and Derrick Henry last week all waiver pick ups because of injuries and some poor drafting. Yes the Michael play hit but many owners are just fearful of trading with teams that consistently win. I didn't think my Forte/Fuller for Edelman offer last week was poor. Would have helped that lineup a hell of a lot more than Crowder, Enunwa and Henry. I'm actually glad I didn't do that deal as I like the one I made today more. It's impossible to even get a counter from some teams out of straight fear and stubbornness. It doesn't help we have transaction fee's. Many times teams are just chasing giant weeks off waivers with a smaller hit -rate.
No, the offer you listed was fair, but I could see someone who drafted Edelman wanting to wait until Brady gets back too. They knew it was going to be hit and miss until week 5 when they drafted him.
While I agree with half of that they aren't in a position to wait any longer for Edelman. At 0-4 and a slew of injuries you need to make a move. The Gronk owner at 2-2 can afford to wait a few more weeks before deciding on him. I guess that's what makes this game so great, there's 12 different people and a million different ways to run a team.
I definitely have some of those. I tried to do a trade last week with one of the guys who never trades. I got that exact response. He likes his RBs. Meanwhile he is starting Lat Murray and Gio. He is 0-4 now. I'm not sure the mentality around that.
It's the fear that your player is going to be a stud the moment you trade them. I use to be that way and even still it creeps into my head when trying to trade.
The one casual work league I'm in the lady said - I can't make a trade with you because if I lose the trade everyone around the office will razz me. I also have a couple of guys that haven't made one trade in 15 years. To each their own.
You're hesitating trading a rookie RB with one career start (against a bad defense) for a proven stud QB?
Personally I'd hesitate because of your RB situation. Dunno your league set up and all that of course, but I wouldn't want to be trotting out Yeldon/Ivory every week for the rest of the year.
It is fun. A group of 24 guys that like to bet on all kinds of things and are in all kinds of fantasy leagues, even NASCAR.
Not exactly the same. More games equals less variance, which he needs when trying to make up ground.
I wonder if he was just assuming that if you won one game that you most likely won the other game as well? I'm not sure how he thinks it's the same thing otherwise.
I think I would actually roll with Murray over OBJ unless you're loaded at RB and weak at WR right now.
16 teams. Roster format is:
Not sure if I would but I would certainly consider it... mostly because I think Parker is going to start to shine. Not a bad offer TBH. Good deal if you don't think OBJ is going to turn it around
I think he does. The Vikings D is legit and that new building is just making everyone look like crap.
Well the value of having an every down back as a RB2 is what is concerning me with this trade. I think Howard holds onto the job and his stock will only continue to rise. Their offense looked different with him in the backfield, plus he can catch passes. Having to choose between West, Ivory and Yeldon every week is a bit concerning but then again, I found Howard, who's to say I wont find the next one? It's for sure a value deal because I'm bascially getting Cam for a FA pickup but moving forward, am I better of having a RB2 that will get 15 touches a game as opposed to Cam and playing matchups with the rest of my backfield. .5 ppr I 14 teams start 3 WR no flex.. PS my WR are AJ, Jordy and Demaryius
I'd take Gurley over Gordon easily. Gordon's value has come from his 6 rushing TDs so far. He's had 1 game over 60yds rushing and is only averaging 3.1ypc. So unless you think the TDs will keep coming, it makes sense to sell him for Gurley.
Hmm. Do you think he's going to quit, or the team will shut him down, or he plays and just has a bad season?
