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Week 10 - Buy Low/ Sell High (1 Viewer)

What RB or WR would I be able to get for Tyrell Williams and Sterling Shepard.  Trying to get a 2 for 1 deal going.  I'd like to get a guy that can give me similar numbers that they are giving me now.  Hoping to trade with a team that needs WR depth.
Probably gonna be tough to get that done. Tyrell is waiver wire fodder in most leagues, so you're basically just gonna get whatever value someone puts on Shepard. The thing with the 2 for 1 trade is the person getting 2 needs to be getting 2 starters or it's not really worth it to them.

 
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Probably gonna be tough to get that done. Tyrell is waiver wire fodder in most leagues, so you're basically just gonna get whatever value someone puts on Shepard. The thing with the 2 for 1 trade is the person getting 2 needs to be getting 2 starters or it's not really worth it to them.
You're right.  I've so wrapped up in not wanting to just let him go for free to a team but have come to realize it's just not that big of deal.  I wanted to do a 2 for 1 deal so I could pick up Powell without having to drop a QB.  I ended up just dropping Williams and picking up Powell.  I still have Shepard and Coleman WR depth.

 
What RB or WR would I be able to get for Tyrell Williams and Sterling Shepard.  Trying to get a 2 for 1 deal going.  I'd like to get a guy that can give me similar numbers that they are giving me now.  Hoping to trade with a team that needs WR depth.
Maybe an Arian Foster or Duke Johnson

 
How do people feel about Nuk Hopkins as a buy low?

Anybody making or fielding offers?
I sent one for him,  Tried Fuller and Cobb for him.  He rejected and this owner never bothers to reject a trade, generally lets them sit there.

I'm trying to turn Fuller/Cobb/John Brown - 2 for 1 for a better WR in a short bench league

Or trying Jimmy Graham or Eifert and a WR above for a WR/TE upgrade.

Not having much luck.

 
Hmm. Do you think he's going to quit, or the team will shut him down, or he plays and just has a bad season?  
Honestly I think he has an up and down season. I see him as another Chad Johnson- end of year he will be top 10 but it'll be because he has 2 games where he scores 230 yards and 3 TDs. Maybe I'm wrong. I prefer consistent 6/80/.5

 
Dr. Brew, loving those Chad Johnson comparisons eh ;)

But I agree Hopkins will be up and down.  He was 3rd in the NFL last year in targets and is somewhere around 22nd this year - slightly below Will Fuller.  And his QB hasn't significantly improved from last year so it's not like he is getting significantly higher quality targets.  A great player that just may not get enough opportunities.

 
Dr. Brew, loving those Chad Johnson comparisons eh ;)

But I agree Hopkins will be up and down.  He was 3rd in the NFL last year in targets and is somewhere around 22nd this year - slightly below Will Fuller.  And his QB hasn't significantly improved from last year so it's not like he is getting significantly higher quality targets.  A great player that just may not get enough opportunities.
I'm pretty sure he was talking about OBJ not Hopkins.

 
Hard to gauge these following players trade values.

I have Fuller, Cobb, John Brown, Ingram, Bernard, Graham, Eifert 

This guy that is willing to deal has - Sanders, Baldwin, Jordy, McCoy, Pryor

I know there's a trade in here somewhere I'm trying to upgrade my WR3 spot.

We start QRWTFFKD and 4 bench.

In a healthy world I start OBJ, Dez and either Cobb/Fuller/Brown  -  Is using Fuller to get Baldwin an upgrade?

 
Hard to gauge these following players trade values.

I have Fuller, Cobb, John Brown, Ingram, Bernard, Graham, Eifert 

This guy that is willing to deal has - Sanders, Baldwin, Jordy, McCoy, Pryor

I know there's a trade in here somewhere I'm trying to upgrade my WR3 spot.

We start QRWTFFKD and 4 bench.

In a healthy world I start OBJ, Dez and either Cobb/Fuller/Brown  -  Is using Fuller to get Baldwin an upgrade?
Baldwin over Fuller is an upgrade at WR3 IMO.  Should be more consistent.  Plus Baldwin's bye is this week so he's available evert week going forward. Maybe Fuller plus something for Baldwin. 

 
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Baldwin over Fuller is an upgrade at WR3 IMO.  Should be more consistent.  Plus Baldwin's bye is this week so he's available evert week going forward. Maybe Fuller plus something for Baldwin. 
It's tough to gauge using this top 200 going forward - ROS points not including this week.

Nelson 200

Ingram 183

Sanders 174

McCoy 166

Fuller 164

Baldwin 164

Pryor 151

Cobb 144

Gio 136

 
You could probably offer Fuller for Baldwin straight up.

I think it would be an upgrade but others are probably higher on fuller.  I just invested in D Hop though so maybe I'm biased.  I just see Baldwin being more consistent than Fuller with just as much, if not more, upside the rest of this season.

 
I'm having a lot of trouble gauging Fuller and what I could trade him for right now as well. It's impossible to predict how he's going to perform ROS. I had an offer to trade Fuller for Eifert this morning and was considering it before Eifert's injury news broke. 

 
Matt Jones?  Was last week a sign of things to come or fools gold?  Some would say that would be a buy high, but will we look in a couple of weeks and think this was a good time to buy?

 
mikel0254 said:
Matt Jones?  Was last week a sign of things to come or fools gold?  Some would say that would be a buy high, but will we look in a couple of weeks and think this was a good time to buy?
I would say fool's gold.  He's guy that I just can't trust week in and week out.  I would sell if I had Jones and adequate RB depth.

 
People need to stop responding to Assistant Coach questions and direct them to the proper forum for such things.

 
People need to stop responding to Assistant Coach questions and direct them to the proper forum for such things.
Some of it has been AC stuff but is it really hurting anything? It's hard to discuss the thread topic without involving some AC questions.  

 
Lots of people like to talk about NFL player situations; few like to read about a random stranger's fantasy team situation.

Ask about a player = fine. Ask about a player compared to your roster's specific situation = a little bit Egocentric.

Hundreds of thousands (a million plus?) of FF players in the world. I would have to ask why you think your fake team's situation is so much more important than the other board members?  

If you really do enjoy reading about other FF players situations or have a hard time making a decision about your own situation, there is a board built for that.

Respect your fellow FF players and respect the website owner's instructions (see the very top of this forum's important note in red) to post them here: https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/forum/12-the-assistant-coach/

Help keep this forum informational and useful for all.

 
I'm not sure how you can have a buy/sell thread without some sort of AC questions. I find it helpful to gauge value of guys that I have. As always, if you don't like a thread, don't read it.

 
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I'm not sure how you can have a buy/sell thread without some sort of AC questions. I find it helpful to gauge value of guys that I have. As always, if you don't like a thread, don't read it.
I agree. Personally I try as hard as I can to refrain from being to "my-team centric" in the shark pool, but typically when looking to add these ww gems/ stashes the pool of players others are looking to drop for them is similar to who I'd be looking to drop/ add. 

Perfect example is with the news of L. Murray being doubtful yesterday. D. Washington / J. Richard now have immediate value. But how much value? who would be worth dropping for one/ both?

I've seen people comment that they'd drop: Sproles, D. Washington (DET), Dixon, R. Jennings, etc...

All of these players are rostered on 1/ multiple teams of mine. So, when I hear people's opinions that they'd drop one of the above type of players for player "X", I find it helpful in making my own decisions. 

I understand that it may be annoying to see all these personal questions here, but just let it go and scroll past. 

Just my $0.02

Cheers

 
I think there's a difference between these types of threads and the AC type stuff.

In here, when talking about buying low/selling high, I think it's important to see other offers owners are seeing. I don't think people are asking if they should trade player X for player Z. It's more of a, "I was trying to sell player X and was able to get player A for him". That's helpful to the community, IMO. Then we're able to value our guys and see if we can help our team.

 
Some of it has been AC stuff but is it really hurting anything? It's hard to discuss the thread topic without involving some AC questions.  
Yes. It clutters the thread. This board would be a mess and completely unreadable if we just shrugged our collective shoulders to AC questions - which the post above clearly is. 

Policing seems crappy and nannyish, but I've seen the alternative and it drags the board down badly. 

 
Lots of people like to talk about NFL player situations; few like to read about a random stranger's fantasy team situation.

Ask about a player = fine. Ask about a player compared to your roster's specific situation = a little bit Egocentric.

Hundreds of thousands (a million plus?) of FF players in the world. I would have to ask why you think your fake team's situation is so much more important than the other board members?  

If you really do enjoy reading about other FF players situations or have a hard time making a decision about your own situation, there is a board built for that.

Respect your fellow FF players and respect the website owner's instructions (see the very top of this forum's important note in red) to post them here: https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/forum/12-the-assistant-coach/

Help keep this forum informational and useful for all.
I don't disagree with any of this, but personally I find AC questions inside an existing thread much less annoying than new threads (from thinly veiled AC to just unabashed AC) cluttering up the first page.

 
Reagrding Matt Jones... Tried like hell to package him w/ wrs for an rb2 upgrade (lacy, freeman, etc) but there are no buyers in my league at this point so Im stuck. Keep it rolling MJ!

 
What's Tevin Coleman value ?
From the way things sound he should play this week in a tough matchup, but I'm not sure how confident i'd be in him. That being said, depending on how the Coleman owner is, next week might be a good buy-low if it plays out how I'd anticipate it going this week.

 
People need to stop responding to Assistant Coach questions and direct them to the proper forum for such things.
Relax big guy - I started the thread - it's a one place, thread discussion on buying low/ selling high and what you can realistically get for these players.  Sometimes you have to bring rosters and see how to make a trade.  Everything here is fine and how to construct trade offers and player value to buy low/ sell high.  Move along.  Toodles.

 
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From the way things sound he should play this week in a tough matchup, but I'm not sure how confident i'd be in him. That being said, depending on how the Coleman owner is, next week might be a good buy-low if it plays out how I'd anticipate it going this week.
I think his carries might be limited as the game goes along.  He might be a buy low come next week if he has a bad game because of this.

 
I simply asked a league mate to rank all our WR's - He actually did, this is a good way to gauge his value.

Jordy Nelson, Baldwin, Cobb, Sanders, Tate, Fuller, John Brown was his order.  I own Cobb.

I wanted to see if he had Baldwin or Sanders ranked lower than Fuller to help gauge Fuller value.  Unfortunately not, however by doing this I know he values Cobb more than Sanders. 

This is a trade I'm thinking about. However I'd like to see Cobb this week. 

Does anyone think Cobb reverts back to 2014, with Jordy healthy?

 
I simply asked a league mate to rank all our WR's - He actually did, this is a good way to gauge his value.

Jordy Nelson, Baldwin, Cobb, Sanders, Tate, Fuller, John Brown was his order.  I own Cobb.

I wanted to see if he had Baldwin or Sanders ranked lower than Fuller to help gauge Fuller value.  Unfortunately not, however by doing this I know he values Cobb more than Sanders. 

This is a trade I'm thinking about. However I'd like to see Cobb this week. 

Does anyone think Cobb reverts back to 2014, with Jordy healthy?
Interesting list of value there.  Going by how everyone is actually performing this season I would rank them Jordy, Sanders, Fuller, Baldwin, Brown, Cobb and then Tate.

 
Interesting list of value there.  Going by how everyone is actually performing this season I would rank them Jordy, Sanders, Fuller, Baldwin, Brown, Cobb and then Tate.
Exactly - I figured he'd rank Fuller lower as many just don't believe in rookies. However I'm trying to construct a deal for Sanders that isn't straight up.  I think Cobb has some name-value. I was hoping I could get Baldwin. 

 
Now asking if he values McCoy or Ingram more.   If he says Ingram then both of below he will value higher, and then I'll see if I can sneak in Baldwin for John Brown.

Thus creating a package of

Ingram/Cobb/Brown   for Sanders/McCoy/Baldwin

 
Now asking if he values McCoy or Ingram more.   If he says Ingram then both of below he will value higher, and then I'll see if I can sneak in Baldwin for John Brown.

Thus creating a package of

Ingram/Cobb/Brown   for Sanders/McCoy/Baldwin
Interesting trade.  I like the Sanders side. 

 
Perception seems too high IMO for a guy stuck in a RBBC. If I owned him, I'd have traded him after the uncharacteristic goal line work a couple weeks ago.
I tried to trade for him last weekend but the guy wanted either Jordy or Evans for him.  I'd rather have my WRs than take the risk on a RB like him.  He's done well but who knows how that backfield is going to be all season.

 
mikel0254 said:
Matt Jones?  Was last week a sign of things to come or fools gold?  Some would say that would be a buy high, but will we look in a couple of weeks and think this was a good time to buy?
I just sold him in a package for C.Coleman. Never been a fan. 

 
I tried to trade for him last weekend but the guy wanted either Jordy or Evans for him.  I'd rather have my WRs than take the risk on a RB like him.  He's done well but who knows how that backfield is going to be all season.
FBG's tends to love Freeman this week.  I'm curious to see this workload split in a game on the road versus a very good D.

 
FBG's tends to love Freeman this week.  I'm curious to see this workload split in a game on the road versus a very good D.
I really don't trust Coleman this week.  Just because he says he's going to play doesn't mean he will be healthy playing there.

 
Fingers crossed, ways like this help, you'd be surprised how many owners will be so quick to rank their own WR's or RB's and then you mix in yours.
I've only had success once having another owner rank our players, it seems most aren't willing to share that.  But when that one owner played along it worked out perfectly.  He had someone on my side higher than I did and someone on his lower than I was thinking so the perfect trade was there for me.

 
I simply asked a league mate to rank all our WR's - He actually did, this is a good way to gauge his value.

Jordy Nelson, Baldwin, Cobb, Sanders, Tate, Fuller, John Brown was his order.  I own Cobb.

I wanted to see if he had Baldwin or Sanders ranked lower than Fuller to help gauge Fuller value.  Unfortunately not, however by doing this I know he values Cobb more than Sanders. 

This is a trade I'm thinking about. However I'd like to see Cobb this week. 

Does anyone think Cobb reverts back to 2014, with Jordy healthy?
This says it all though about rose coloured glasses. I own golden Tate as my wr3 in a league and no way he should be ranked ahead of anyone. Fuller way more value. So this is sucker answer for you to hope for good offer. I for one would not be believing it

 
Agreed Tate is a distant last on that list.  Heard/saw someplace that he's now gone 27 straight games without reaching 100 yards.

Knowing that moved him from a possible "buy low" to a solid "avoid" for me.

 
Tate is being dropped in a lot of leagues and many podcasts are recommending the same.  No way he should be rated ahead of other players that can be played as a flex.

 

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