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Week 10 - Buy Low/ Sell High (1 Viewer)
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MattFancy
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Hawkeye21
Footballguy
According to ol' Jim Bob Cooter, Tate is going to have a huge week. Not sure what they've been waiting for.
That's crazy. Those are top 12 WRs RoS. I guess I would trade a 25-36 level WR for him if I was desperate at RB, but I definitely would not part with even a 13-24 WR for Coleman. He's on the lesser end of a RBBC.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
And earlier in the thread people were mad at me for stating that people are overvaluing RBs. I know there is position scarcity but that doesn't make me want to give up a top WR for a mediocre RB just because the options are slim. That's why I try to be stacked at WR and grab a bunch of RBs hoping one of them does well.
Gottabesweet
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Skoo
Footballguy
That's why it's better to be stacked at RB.
Check out your league's teams right now, I'm sure there's lots of people desperate for RB help. On the other hand, there's enough WRs to go around. Don't get me wrong I wouldn't trade an elite WR for a middling RB either, but in-season it's gonna be a lot easier to deal RBs for WRs than the other way around.
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
What's funny is just when I am about to panic about the state of my rotating RB2 position, I look at the other 11 teams in the league and realize their situation is as bad or worse. My guess is there are two or three teams in any given league stacked at RB and the rest are scrambling. Don't overreact and kill yourself at a position of strength to chase when you don't need to as everyone else is chasing the same weakness.
kittenmittens
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The only thing scarce about RBs in PPR is the very top 5 or 6 guys. There are a ton of crappy RB2 types, but not really position scarcity...
Skoo
Footballguy
What you just described is referred to as positional scarcity. There aren't that many good RBs, so they are scarce compared to their fantasy counterpart, WRs.
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What's the value of Alshon these days? I have really good WR's and there's a team in my league that has lousy WR's. no ppr. I was thinking of offering Alshon for C. Michael. Is that a fair trade or to much to give up? I have real trouble gauging the value of my players, I think I'm to attached to them, so some of my trade offers are often seen as lopsided. How do you stop that?
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Not in the context it is being used above. I was responding to people saying because of scarcity, a WR1 is equal to an RB2 in value. I say that's wrong because RB2 are not scarce.Skoo said:
To clarify, the top 5 or 6 RBs are extra valuable due to scarcity, but beyond that there is no extra value given to all other RBs because of scarcity at the top.
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Stealthycat
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I just traded Snead and RB Henry for Dez - salary league, taking a chance to win with Dez in a few weeks. I considered him a buy low
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Just watched an owner trade Baldwin for Crowell. If I would have known I would have given Bernard and John Brown.
Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
sold fitz and bennett for allen robinson. Owner was panicking but fitz tonight giving me some buyers remorse
Blick
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DirtyCashDylan
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I'm thinking about selling Gurley in redraft for Fitz. I'm loaded at RB but lost Watkins and Josh Gordon and just dropped M Floyd. We'll see how he does this week.
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Gottabesweet
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Early week 6 buy - John Brown. - 1 catch for 11 yards with Stanton, 64 of 68 offensive snaps, #2 next to Fitzgerald. Michael Floyd trending downward with less snaps than Jaron Brown, and a big drop in the first half.
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Gottabesweet
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Weebs210
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I like the Hopkins side as well but based on their team composition it was a fairly even trade.
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Hawkeye21
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Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
This is a good offer if you are stacked at WR. Christine Michael is a top 10 bellcow RB until further notice. I can't see him fading to a random backup role if and when Rawls ever makes it back.
I own Alshon and have to hold cause I don't have the depth. While I think his targets come around with White now out of the picture, I think Alshon is simply hurt. He is laboring on a bad knee and it is very difficult to get healthy in season.
Blick
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Hawkeye21
Footballguy
Seems plenty fair to me. Usually it's the Gordon owner that doesn't want to trade. Did you try going after the DT owner? It seems most of them want to sell.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I would trade Gordon for either of those guys, but I don't own Gordon and I think he looks awful despite the production.
Absolutely Nothing
Footballguy
I was able to move Gordon for ARob, I feel iffy about it for this week but ROS I'm much happier.kittenmittens said:
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
I traded Gordon and Cooks for Lamar Miller and KBenjamin.
VaTerp
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Hu-Tang Clan
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hamsterdam
Footballguy
Desperate Hopkins owners, how does DT and a throw-in based on depth need sound for an offer?
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
I own each Baldwin and Crowell in several leagues... I wouldn't have traded either for Gio+Brown.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
IMO Gordon is a sell high guy. He is getting some TDs, but he is also struggling to get 40yds against bad run Ds. Never been a huge fan, so I am waiting the other shoe to drop.
fightingillini
Footballguy
catching 7 passes for 35 yds and 1 TD. That's Tate's huge week.
I cut him already in one league......
Steel Curtainrod
Footballguy
Moved Gordon and Hurns in a deep bench 12tm 3wr ppr dyno for Hilton and an early 2017 1st (1-4) I'm rebuilding and going nowhere, so it felt right. The TDS prob won't keep coming like this.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
Buying Sam Bradford.easy playoff schedule and all indoors or at warm climates.
Selling Alshon, he's same guy he was last year extremely frustrating performances packed with occasional surprises..
Buying J. Howard everywhere. He's here to stay.
Buying Dixon. K. Cousins. Rams D.
Selling Alshon, he's same guy he was last year extremely frustrating performances packed with occasional surprises..
Buying J. Howard everywhere. He's here to stay.
Buying Dixon. K. Cousins. Rams D.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Does your league get points for handing it off to Jerick McKinnon or Matt Asiata, or AP when he comes back? Does Bradford get points when the D scores a pick 6?
Don't get me wrong.....Bradford has played really well. But he is never going to have a high ceiling since the game script will likely never allow it....MIN should have the lead in most games.....teams are struggling to score even 20 points against the MIN D. Bradford does have a low floor....a game like 175 yds, no TDs, and 1 int....that would kill you that week.
Pass on Bradford.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Actually it's a lot of TDs.
But I agree, I would sell Gordon if I can package Gordon + a good piece and end up with Zeke or Bell or DJ. Worth a shot.
OTOH, Gordon is getting the volume and doesn't really have competition for carries, so his floor is pretty high.
BearsFan4Life
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14 team Dynasty .. no ppr
Sold.. Decker and Sims
Bought.. Maclin
Decker health worries me and this is Sims last week before Martin return. Also gives me a roster spot for K and D for bye weeks coming soon.
Sold.. Decker and Sims
Bought.. Maclin
Decker health worries me and this is Sims last week before Martin return. Also gives me a roster spot for K and D for bye weeks coming soon.
Conan Troutman
Footballguy
Tried to trade Gordon as well this week. The only offer I got was for Marshall or Fitz (though I do own Robinson and DT already, so no takers from there obviously) and made the deal for Marshall (and got Eifert for Ebron in the package), which seems to be in line with the other trades here. I guess he's just a too obvious sell high candidate and the warning signs are too easy to see.
VaTerp
Footballguy
Still seems like a good sell high on Gordon and buy low on Marshall to me. TE upgrage was a good bonus as well.
Chaka
Footballguy
I think Osweiler should get better as the season progresses but up to this point the best you can say about him is that he has been a reasonable game manager. I don't think he favorably compares to what Hoyer did in Houston last year (lower Y/A, lower TD%, higher INT%).Dr. Brew, loving those Chad Johnson comparisons eh
But I agree Hopkins will be up and down. He was 3rd in the NFL last year in targets and is somewhere around 22nd this year - slightly below Will Fuller. And his QB hasn't significantly improved from last year so it's not like he is getting significantly higher quality targets. A great player that just may not get enough opportunities.
Conan Troutman
Footballguy
Yeah, I still like the trade. I was curios what Gordon was going for in other leagues, but it doesn't seem that I left a lot of actual value on the table (maybe there are owners who would pay more, but they aren't in my league). And Gordon won't keep scoring TDs at that rate, while Marshall should start converting more of that boatload of targets soon. I probably wouldn't get Marshall for him in a week or two, especially in PPR.
