Week 12 Defense/Special Team pick-ups (1 Viewer)

[death of the cool]

Well I have been playing the wavier wire on defenses since week 9 with some pretty good success:

WK 9 Chargers - 21 pts

WK 10 Colts - 16 pts

WK 11 Bengals - 9 pts

One thing I have learned...it is more about the offense you are playing rather than how good the defense is.

What about this week?

In the order that I like:

Cardinals vs Rams- I feel a Patrick Peterson punt return on the horizon. Regardless this D has been pretty good.

Carolina at Philly- (especially if Mccoy doesn't play)

Rams at Cardinals - I like the Cardinals a bit better because they are playing at home, but it should be low scoring.

Browns at Steelers - Could be low scoring and Batch will QB.

Anyone have some others?

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Bengals vs. Oakland isn't too bad...

 

[Lordcoca]

Rolling with Carolina @Philly. They have the Chiefs the following week too.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I like STL @ AZ.

Agree with OP that the Cards always seemingly pull a rabbit outta their ### at home, but if the Rams score first and take out the returning Beanie factor, it's going to be a long long afternoon for Lindley behind center.

 

[Nucker101]

Rams look like a great play this week, especially if Skelton isn't starting and their third stringer is.

 

[Ashem]

If Cutler is still out, I might go with the Vikings @ Chicago.

 

[Darryl Talley]

I tried STL last week and they gave up 27 to the Jets at home?!

 

[Detroit Revival]

I'm picking up Car. and Cle defenses and playing out the rest of the season with them. Looks like they've got every matchup covered pretty well up thru week 16.

 

[jbblan5]

I believe that Carolina can have a good game this week as the matchup is really juicy because I don't think McCoy will play personally but thats just me. I have some questions after what the Jets did to the Rams defense last week but it seems that sometimes the Jets don't show up at the stadium and sometimes they do. The ultimate Jekkyl and Hyde team. I have the option of either the Bengals or Seahawks and don't know right now which to use.

 

[devouredbychaos]

Bucs or Carolina are my choices to grab for the rest of the season as our waivers lock after Sunday for the start of playoffs. Think I'm going Carolina..

 

[3quinox]

I believe that Carolina can have a good game this week as the matchup is really juicy because I don't think McCoy will play personally but thats just me. I have some questions after what the Jets did to the Rams defense last week but it seems that sometimes the Jets don't show up at the stadium and sometimes they do. The ultimate Jekkyl and Hyde team. I have the option of either the Bengals or Seahawks and don't know right now which to use.

Go with the seahawks. MIA has had abysmal qb play and reggie bush disappeared and i think oak vs cincy will be a shoot out ps i got a new computer and can use emoticons now

 

[Dentist]

cards didn't do anything against the rams last time.

i think i'm going to roll with the rams

 

[mad_dog]

Dropped Cinci for Carolina. No Vick. No McCoy. Carolina D is capable of big plays.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Going with extra DSTs based on matchups has worked for me in the past, but I'm having a tough time with it this year.

DEN is not on the WW but they seem like the perfecrt No. 1 play vs KC. Im glad I am not facing them.

Some teams start tanking on their coaches and end up either trying out young QBs or losing starters due to injury. PHI has both going on right now. Carolina looks like a good pickup and really KC is the reason to have them next week. However if Vick plays I'm not so thrilled with CAR, in Philly and maybe they do something, maybe they rally. CAR only works for me if Foles is playing.

Browns - actually Charlie Batch worries me more than Leftwich. I thought Lefty was a great play last week. Batch has actually performed for PIT and these two teams know each other very well.

TEN - I picked them up last week for the matchup vs Jax but this one has lost its charm with Henne and Parmele coming in. I'm wary and have dropped TEN.

The TNF matchups have been panning out of late. This weeks it's Pats @ NYJ. NE is not on any WW but I'm wondering what folks think about this one. My main concern is that the Jets typically play the Pats tough no matter how their season is going. Kerley may be out or limited too which leaves their receiving game even weaker (unimaginable I know but yes).

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Cardinals vs Rams

We start 2 Ds, going with both sides.

 

[death of the cool]

Some teams start tanking on their coaches and end up either trying out young QBs or losing starters due to injury. PHI has both going on right now. Carolina looks like a good pickup and really KC is the reason to have them next week. However if Vick plays I'm not so thrilled with CAR, in Philly and maybe they do something, maybe they rally. CAR only works for me if Foles is playing.

Very good argument for Carolina....you have me considering this if we get word McCoy and Vick are out.

 

[mad_dog]

Going with extra DSTs based on matchups has worked for me in the past, but I'm having a tough time with it this year.

DEN is not on the WW but they seem like the perfecrt No. 1 play vs KC. Im glad I am not facing them.

Some teams start tanking on their coaches and end up either trying out young QBs or losing starters due to injury. PHI has both going on right now. Carolina looks like a good pickup and really KC is the reason to have them next week. However if Vick plays I'm not so thrilled with CAR, in Philly and maybe they do something, maybe they rally. CAR only works for me if Foles is playing.

Browns - actually Charlie Batch worries me more than Leftwich. I thought Lefty was a great play last week. Batch has actually performed for PIT and these two teams know each other very well.

TEN - I picked them up last week for the matchup vs Jax but this one has lost its charm with Henne and Parmele coming in. I'm wary and have dropped TEN.

The TNF matchups have been panning out of late. This weeks it's Pats @ NYJ. NE is not on any WW but I'm wondering what folks think about this one. My main concern is that the Jets typically play the Pats tough no matter how their season is going. Kerley may be out or limited too which leaves their receiving game even weaker (unimaginable I know but yes).

I was thinking that CAR wouldn't be a good pick with Vick as well. Did some digging and based on this article http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-20/sports/35229001_1_contact-zach-berman-eagles-notes-concussion I sincerely doubt he will be set for Monday night. Still at the first stage of the 5 step process to get back on the field.

 

[shadyridr]

choosing between CINCY & CAR. I think Ill stick with CINCY cuz they get to the QB a ton. Cincy also has a ridiculous schedule from here on out. But CAR also plays KC next week ugh

 

[packersfan]

I kinda like both the Panthers and Eagles on Monday night. Carolina for obvious reasons but Cam's been pretty shaky at times this season and Carolina's offensive approach is bat-s**t crazy most of the time. Eagles' D hasn't been very good but at home against a suspect offense they may not be a bad reach this week.

 

[DocHolliday]

I am trying to choose between STL and NE. I went with STL last week against the Jets and it did not work out that well. That actually worries me with both choices since NE plays the Jets.

 

[Ace zero1]

Rolling with Carolina.

 

[godgers12]

Is it confirmed that Vick and McCoy are out? Anything I have seen seem to lead to possibly the exact opposite happening...

 

[Jimbo Slice]

Rolling with Cleveland, St. Louis, and Seattle in my leagues.

Is Haden supposed to be back anyone know?

 

[solorca]

A warning for those playing Carolina. They are usually pretty bad in primetime and have been known to give up a ton of points (the most recent being the week 3 meltdown against the Giants).

The advantage though (and possibly the thing that makes my first comment moot), is that MNF is the one primetime game where they've had success in the past. They are 5-3 on Mondays, but 1-9 in all other primetime game throughout their history.

 

[Maven]

Carolina is a MUST PLAY this week. Foles, and no Mccoy + most turnover prone team in league vs D that is like top 5 in sacks in past 3 games. This is the perfect storm for fantasy points.

 

[mad_dog]

Is it confirmed that Vick and McCoy are out? Anything I have seen seem to lead to possibly the exact opposite happening...

I don't think anything is confirmed yet and probably won't be until the end of the week. My take, the rumors that Vick will play Monday night are painting an optimistic picture of the situation. It sounded like a very "serious concusion:"From November 17th, philly.com:Vick will spend the weekend in a dark, quiet area and must avoid exercising and watching video."He's not very alert right now in terms of he just doesn't have that energy," head trainer Rick Burkholder said. "He's tired all the time, he's slept a lot, and he's not getting rid of that fatigue. When I talk to him, he's just not the Michael Vick I know when he's healthy."I plan on playing CAR if Vick and McCoy are out. If I find anything else, I will post it here.

 

[packersfan]

Is it confirmed that Vick and McCoy are out? Anything I have seen seem to lead to possibly the exact opposite happening...

I don't think anything is confirmed yet and probably won't be until the end of the week. My take, the rumors that Vick will play Monday night are painting an optimistic picture of the situation. It sounded like a very "serious concusion:"From November 17th, philly.com:Vick will spend the weekend in a dark, quiet area and must avoid exercising and watching video."He's not very alert right now in terms of he just doesn't have that energy," head trainer Rick Burkholder said. "He's tired all the time, he's slept a lot, and he's not getting rid of that fatigue. When I talk to him, he's just not the Michael Vick I know when he's healthy."

Sounds like he's made significant improvement since then. He watched practice today and took part in team meetings. I'd be surprised if he plays this week but he does seem to be a lot better than he was last Friday.

 

[mad_dog]

Packersfan - Good to know. Thank you.

 

[BobbyLayne]

No definitive news today, but it seems likely both Ealges stars will miss the next game.

Vick and McCoy not ruled out for MNF

Source: Nick Foles will start against the Panthers

Philly and KC have both been turnover machines. I'm rolling with the Panthers the next two weeks.

 

[BRONG]

I took Cleveland over Carolina and Arizona. Surprised they're not a more popular pickup, really. Oakland on deck, too.

I did not like the fact Carolina's two games are on the road. Philly should at least show up and not want to get embarrassed on a Monday night in front of the nation, no? Then, Carolina has a short week and has to go to Arrowhead. For a team going nowhere that doesn't exactly inspire. Easily can see a stinker there. Admittedly, I did like the Foles matchup quite a bit but the Eagles should be pretty conservative with that idiot, especially after last week.

Doubt Jeff Fisher's new team lays another egg this week, so they never were really in the equation. Only took a gander because FBGs thinks they are a better play than Cleveland but I'm not buying it.

Cleveland would love to get one on Pitt and they also have to love seeing Charlie Batch in there and can get to the QB. And getting Haden back doesn't hurt. Go Browns.

 

[Insein]

I have the Cards in one league and Rams in my other. Hoping for good results all around.

 

[Nucker101]

Picked up the Rams last week and am sticking with them even though they had a let down game against a bad Jets offense. Going up against a 3rd string rookie QB playing behind that o-line is too good to pass up. There's no way I can trust Carolina's defense, especially on the road, I can see Foles having a better game and Charles running all over them(if he gets the chance to).

PS: Really kicking myself for dropping the Pats D/ST a couple of week ago.

 

[Insein]

I took Cleveland over Carolina and Arizona. Surprised they're not a more popular pickup, really. Oakland on deck, too.I did not like the fact Carolina's two games are on the road. Philly should at least show up and not want to get embarrassed on a Monday night in front of the nation, no? Then, Carolina has a short week and has to go to Arrowhead. For a team going nowhere that doesn't exactly inspire. Easily can see a stinker there. Admittedly, I did like the Foles matchup quite a bit but the Eagles should be pretty conservative with that idiot, especially after last week.Doubt Jeff Fisher's new team lays another egg this week, so they never were really in the equation. Only took a gander because FBGs thinks they are a better play than Cleveland but I'm not buying it.Cleveland would love to get one on Pitt and they also have to love seeing Charlie Batch in there and can get to the QB. And getting Haden back doesn't hurt. Go Browns.

Here's a breakdown in my league anyway of teams that play the Eagles.

Week Team Int STY SACK TK DFR FF DTD PA PaNetA RuYdA YDS FPTS1 Browns DST vs Eagles [ + ] 4 0 2 60 1 2 1 17 306 150 456 182 Ravens DST vs Eagles [ + ] 2 0 2 69 2 1 0 24 357 129 486 83 Cardinals DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 5 45 3 3 1 6 194 113 307 304 Giants DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 2 55 0 0 0 19 231 191 422 45 Steelers DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 3 49 2 4 0 14 168 78 246 166 Lions DST vs Eagles [ + ] 2 0 3 64 1 0 0 23 286 71 357 128 Falcons DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 3 47 0 1 0 17 178 92 270 109 Saints DST vs Eagles [ + ] 1 0 7 47 1 2 1 13 226 221 447 2610 Cowboys DST vs Eagles [ + ] 1 0 2 52 1 1 3 23 278 91 369 2611 Redskins DST vs Eagles [ + ] 2 0 4 54 1 3 0 6 177 80 257 22

Last 3 weeks (when they've really just flat out quit), over 20 pts. Whoever plays the Eagles this year has been gold regardless of how bad the defense was ranked going into the game.

 

[VikingFrog]

Seattle Seahoooowks.

Ready to stuff a struggling Miami team.

 

[Short Corner]

Going with Cincy. Would much rather have Vick starting if I went with Car. Doubt Foles turns it over at the same rate.

 

[BobbyLayne]

One thing I have learned...it is more about the offense you are playing rather than how good the defense is.

Very true. Anyone can look up FF Points Allowed to DEF/DST and see the evidence. It is most apparent when you look at all the mediocre defenses who have faced the Chiefs and Eagles and were made to look like tier 1 studs.Or you could avoid the statistical analysis and invent phantom reasoning why the trend won't hold. Remarkable how many in this thread have opted for the latter.Horse, water, et al.

 

[otb_lifer]

I took Cleveland over Carolina and Arizona. Surprised they're not a more popular pickup, really. Oakland on deck, too.

I did not like the fact Carolina's two games are on the road. Philly should at least show up and not want to get embarrassed on a Monday night in front of the nation, no? Then, Carolina has a short week and has to go to Arrowhead. For a team going nowhere that doesn't exactly inspire. Easily can see a stinker there. Admittedly, I did like the Foles matchup quite a bit but the Eagles should be pretty conservative with that idiot, especially after last week.

Doubt Jeff Fisher's new team lays another egg this week, so they never were really in the equation. Only took a gander because FBGs thinks they are a better play than Cleveland but I'm not buying it.

Cleveland would love to get one on Pitt and they also have to love seeing Charlie Batch in there and can get to the QB. And getting Haden back doesn't hurt. Go Browns.

Agree w/the bolded ... look solid this week, and the clincher is being at home. Always try to favor that aspect (home preferred over road) in these scenarios. Definitely swayed the decision over both Carolina and St. Louis. Only caveat is the Stillers D rising up (Troy back this week?), and putting their offense on short fields/housing Cleveland turnovers, etc.

Weedon/TRich are as much a key to this equation as facing Batch at home.

Meh ... all in ... GO BROWNIES

 

[packersfan]

Going with Cincy. Would much rather have Vick starting if I went with Car. Doubt Foles turns it over at the same rate.

Foles has been a little worse so far. Vick averaged 1.75 turnovers in his first eight games. Foles has averaged 2 per game in his first two games.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I took Cleveland over Carolina and Arizona. Surprised they're not a more popular pickup, really. Oakland on deck, too.I did not like the fact Carolina's two games are on the road. Philly should at least show up and not want to get embarrassed on a Monday night in front of the nation, no? Then, Carolina has a short week and has to go to Arrowhead. For a team going nowhere that doesn't exactly inspire. Easily can see a stinker there. Admittedly, I did like the Foles matchup quite a bit but the Eagles should be pretty conservative with that idiot, especially after last week.Doubt Jeff Fisher's new team lays another egg this week, so they never were really in the equation. Only took a gander because FBGs thinks they are a better play than Cleveland but I'm not buying it.Cleveland would love to get one on Pitt and they also have to love seeing Charlie Batch in there and can get to the QB. And getting Haden back doesn't hurt. Go Browns.

Here's a breakdown in my league anyway of teams that play the Eagles.

Week Team Int STY SACK TK DFR FF DTD PA PaNetA RuYdA YDS FPTS1 Browns DST vs Eagles [ + ] 4 0 2 60 1 2 1 17 306 150 456 182 Ravens DST vs Eagles [ + ] 2 0 2 69 2 1 0 24 357 129 486 83 Cardinals DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 5 45 3 3 1 6 194 113 307 304 Giants DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 2 55 0 0 0 19 231 191 422 45 Steelers DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 3 49 2 4 0 14 168 78 246 166 Lions DST vs Eagles [ + ] 2 0 3 64 1 0 0 23 286 71 357 128 Falcons DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 3 47 0 1 0 17 178 92 270 109 Saints DST vs Eagles [ + ] 1 0 7 47 1 2 1 13 226 221 447 2610 Cowboys DST vs Eagles [ + ] 1 0 2 52 1 1 3 23 278 91 369 2611 Redskins DST vs Eagles [ + ] 2 0 4 54 1 3 0 6 177 80 257 22

Last 3 weeks (when they've really just flat out quit), over 20 pts. Whoever plays the Eagles this year has been gold regardless of how bad the defense was ranked going into the game.

Except for the Giants at Philly. And the Giants D went on a tear after that.I still haven't figured that one out.

 

[Insein]

I took Cleveland over Carolina and Arizona. Surprised they're not a more popular pickup, really. Oakland on deck, too.I did not like the fact Carolina's two games are on the road. Philly should at least show up and not want to get embarrassed on a Monday night in front of the nation, no? Then, Carolina has a short week and has to go to Arrowhead. For a team going nowhere that doesn't exactly inspire. Easily can see a stinker there. Admittedly, I did like the Foles matchup quite a bit but the Eagles should be pretty conservative with that idiot, especially after last week.Doubt Jeff Fisher's new team lays another egg this week, so they never were really in the equation. Only took a gander because FBGs thinks they are a better play than Cleveland but I'm not buying it.Cleveland would love to get one on Pitt and they also have to love seeing Charlie Batch in there and can get to the QB. And getting Haden back doesn't hurt. Go Browns.

Here's a breakdown in my league anyway of teams that play the Eagles.

Week Team Int STY SACK TK DFR FF DTD PA PaNetA RuYdA YDS FPTS1 Browns DST vs Eagles [ + ] 4 0 2 60 1 2 1 17 306 150 456 182 Ravens DST vs Eagles [ + ] 2 0 2 69 2 1 0 24 357 129 486 83 Cardinals DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 5 45 3 3 1 6 194 113 307 304 Giants DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 2 55 0 0 0 19 231 191 422 45 Steelers DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 3 49 2 4 0 14 168 78 246 166 Lions DST vs Eagles [ + ] 2 0 3 64 1 0 0 23 286 71 357 128 Falcons DST vs Eagles [ + ] 0 0 3 47 0 1 0 17 178 92 270 109 Saints DST vs Eagles [ + ] 1 0 7 47 1 2 1 13 226 221 447 2610 Cowboys DST vs Eagles [ + ] 1 0 2 52 1 1 3 23 278 91 369 2611 Redskins DST vs Eagles [ + ] 2 0 4 54 1 3 0 6 177 80 257 22

Last 3 weeks (when they've really just flat out quit), over 20 pts. Whoever plays the Eagles this year has been gold regardless of how bad the defense was ranked going into the game.

Except for the Giants at Philly. And the Giants D went on a tear after that.I still haven't figured that one out.

One of those division rivalry things. Just throw out trends for Giants v Eagles.

 

[otb_lifer]

I took Cleveland over Carolina and Arizona. Surprised they're not a more popular pickup, really. Oakland on deck, too.

I did not like the fact Carolina's two games are on the road. Philly should at least show up and not want to get embarrassed on a Monday night in front of the nation, no? Then, Carolina has a short week and has to go to Arrowhead. For a team going nowhere that doesn't exactly inspire. Easily can see a stinker there. Admittedly, I did like the Foles matchup quite a bit but the Eagles should be pretty conservative with that idiot, especially after last week.

Doubt Jeff Fisher's new team lays another egg this week, so they never were really in the equation. Only took a gander because FBGs thinks they are a better play than Cleveland but I'm not buying it.

Cleveland would love to get one on Pitt and they also have to love seeing Charlie Batch in there and can get to the QB. And getting Haden back doesn't hurt. Go Browns.

Agree w/the bolded ... look solid this week, and the clincher is being at home. Always try to favor that aspect (home preferred over road) in these scenarios. Definitely swayed the decision over both Carolina and St. Louis. Only caveat is the Stillers D rising up (Troy back this week?), and putting their offense on short fields/housing Cleveland turnovers, etc.

Weedon/TRich are as much a key to this equation as facing Batch at home.

Meh ... all in ... GO BROWNIES

That didn't take long. did it?

 

[BRONG]

One thing I have learned...it is more about the offense you are playing rather than how good the defense is.

Very true. Anyone can look up FF Points Allowed to DEF/DST and see the evidence. It is most apparent when you look at all the mediocre defenses who have faced the Chiefs and Eagles and were made to look like tier 1 studs.Or you could avoid the statistical analysis and invent phantom reasoning why the trend won't hold. Remarkable how many in this thread have opted for the latter.Horse, water, et al.

 

[BobbyLayne]

One thing I have learned...it is more about the offense you are playing rather than how good the defense is.

Very true. Anyone can look up FF Points Allowed to DEF/DST and see the evidence. It is most apparent when you look at all the mediocre defenses who have faced the Chiefs and Eagles and were made to look like tier 1 studs.Or you could avoid the statistical analysis and invent phantom reasoning why the trend won't hold. Remarkable how many in this thread have opted for the latter.Horse, water, et al.

I benched the 49ers so I could start the Panthers tonight.

 

[BRONG]

One thing I have learned...it is more about the offense you are playing rather than how good the defense is.

Very true. Anyone can look up FF Points Allowed to DEF/DST and see the evidence. It is most apparent when you look at all the mediocre defenses who have faced the Chiefs and Eagles and were made to look like tier 1 studs.Or you could avoid the statistical analysis and invent phantom reasoning why the trend won't hold. Remarkable how many in this thread have opted for the latter.Horse, water, et al.

I benched the 49ers so I could start the Panthers tonight.

Fair enough, stuck to your guns, but weren't you ripping my Cleveland call?

 

[BobbyLayne]

One thing I have learned...it is more about the offense you are playing rather than how good the defense is.

Very true. Anyone can look up FF Points Allowed to DEF/DST and see the evidence. It is most apparent when you look at all the mediocre defenses who have faced the Chiefs and Eagles and were made to look like tier 1 studs.Or you could avoid the statistical analysis and invent phantom reasoning why the trend won't hold. Remarkable how many in this thread have opted for the latter.Horse, water, et al.

I benched the 49ers so I could start the Panthers tonight.

Fair enough, stuck to your guns, but weren't you ripping my Cleveland call?

I did? I actually dropped the Stillers for the Panthers, and was very close to picking up the Browns since Batch was starting. They would have gotten me 21 points in our format. I'm losing by 22. 49ers racked up 23 yesterday.I'm so pathetic I did a search on Panthers games in a database after setting up our league scoring system. Carolina DST 2000-2012 has achieved 23 points twice - once in 2000, again in 2007, both at home.