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refs makin sure pats stay in it! disgusting
Yup, game over for Pats with out that. Good thing they are still in itrefs makin sure pats stay in it! disgusting
Yup, game over for Pats with out that. Good thing they are still in itJust going to keep a runing tab of why the Giants lost this game:1. Toomer drop on third down2. Phantom illegal contact call against Giant defending Stallworth

Tons. And low blows at that. I think it's dirty pool for Goodell to talk about how tonight is for the fans, and not talking about the negotiations in pregame and then throw up commercials like that. They forgot to mention that all of those women's channels and shopping networks cost nothing compared to what NFLN would cost TW. Makes Goodell look like a tool for making such a BS statement.i'm watching nbc hd and its pretty darn good.I wonder how many NFL network promos and commercials we will get bombarded with.
usually evens outGmen will get a call, you'll seeJust going to keep a runing tab of why the Giants lost this game:1. Toomer drop on third down2. Phantom illegal contact call against Giant defending Stallworth
Tons of holding calls are missed though. Not a huge deal.JWhen Moss grabs the defenders leg and hauls him to the ground... HOW IS THAT NOT HOLDING???
This is not true.No way. If there's a team in the league that the NFL would rather not go undefeated it's the one busted for cheating this season. They know that casts a cloud they'd rather not deal with.JTerrible call.But you have to go into every game against the Patriots knowing that they're going to get those calls
We're polar opposites on this one Joe. I think the NFL would love nothing better than to create their own version of the Montana/49ers Aikman/Cowboys dynasty.No way. If there's a team in the league that the NFL would rather not go undefeated it's the one busted for cheating this season. They know that casts a cloud they'd rather not deal with.JTerrible call.But you have to go into every game against the Patriots knowing that they're going to get those calls
Right. The WR is allowed to extend his arm whenever and for however long he wants, but you as a defender can not breathe on him. And the ref can throw the falg 10 seconds after the infraction. Got it.The. Fix. Is. In.refs makin sure pats stay in it! disgustingYup, game over for Pats with out that. Good thing they are still in it
I think they are betting on people's universal hatred of their cable company....not the facts...Tons. And low blows at that. I think it's dirty pool for Goodell to talk about how tonight is for the fans, and not talking about the negotiations in pregame and then throw up commercials like that. They forgot to mention that all of those women's channels and shopping networks cost nothing compared to what NFLN would cost TW. Makes Goodell look like a tool for making such a BS statement.i'm watching nbc hd and its pretty darn good.I wonder how many NFL network promos and commercials we will get bombarded with.
In the fourth quarter when they're down by 31usually evens outGmen will get a call, you'll seeJust going to keep a runing tab of why the Giants lost this game:1. Toomer drop on third down2. Phantom illegal contact call against Giant defending Stallworth
I see your point but on the flip side its like the Yankees in baseball, if you have a villain everyone watches. 90% of the country is tuning in cheering for the Giants because they want to hate the Pats.(hear that Red Sox fans? your pats are like the YANKEES!!)No way. If there's a team in the league that the NFL would rather not go undefeated it's the one busted for cheating this season. They know that casts a cloud they'd rather not deal with.JTerrible call.But you have to go into every game against the Patriots knowing that they're going to get those calls
Yeah, I hate logic.Jiggyonthehut said:Lots of tools up in hurr thus far. -Not a pats fan

Like I said - he can extend his arms as much as he wants - what B.S.The. Fix. Is. In.

Just going to keep a runing tab of why the Giants lost this game:1. Toomer drop on third down2. Phantom illegal contact call against Giant defending Stallworth, negating a third down sack of Brady3. Moss gets away with pushing off on a TD catch
No push there. His arms were already fully extended...as were the defender's. He pulled them back and then jumped.

Credit to cheating? Sorry, not able to.Just give credit and quit crying about the refs, some of you guys sound like a bunch of little girls.
Just going to keep a runing tab of why the Giants lost this game:1. Toomer drop on third down2. Phantom illegal contact call against Giant defending Stallworth, negating a third down sack of Brady3. Moss gets away with pushing off on a TD catch

Looked like they could've called either one for it, since it's even let the players sort it out. Good non-call.No push there. His arms were already fully extended...as were the defender's. He pulled them back and then jumped.
Looking for your whining on the 'excessive' celebration call. Or is that legit in your mind?Yeah, I hate logic.Jiggyonthehut said:Lots of tools up in hurr thus far. -Not a pats fan![]()
not reallyStill a game, boys.
Just going to keep a runing tab of why the Giants lost this game:1. Toomer drop on third down2. Phantom illegal contact call against Giant defending Stallworth, negating a third down sack of Brady3. Moss gets away with pushing off on a TD catch4. Giants scored too quickly on a kick return
well there ya goIn the fourth quarter when they're down by 31usually evens outGmen will get a call, you'll seeJust going to keep a runing tab of why the Giants lost this game:1. Toomer drop on third down2. Phantom illegal contact call against Giant defending Stallworth