Wait a minute MOP: Harvin wasn't on the team last year. If anyone is missing anybody it is San Fran with their safety from last year and Crabtree. This game is in Seattle by the way, do you know that? The Niners are going to struggle just getting off the ball when they are on offense. I just don't see what you are seeing.
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Week 2-Exploit-Avoid, what you got? (1 Viewer)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Oh the agony of starting Dez and Julio, yes you are banged up right now but what a collection there.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
And if they do that I will be the first one to salute. I appreciate the counter POV, it's a good point but I think that makes this an even easier win for San Fran because the Niners have improved on offense, they are not the same team they were a year ago and Kaepernick seems even better than he was last year. I hope this game lives up to how awesome it truly is. Wilson is the wildcard in this game for me.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I'll be right someday....
Coby Fleener
Dwayne Allen doubtful. Miami gave up monster game to Cameron last week. I will be officially off the Fleener bandwagon if he puts up a 1-7 stinker here. I think Hilton will be used more down the field (and Fleener underneath with Allen out).
Given how brutal the Indy O-line looked Week 1, I'm not sure Luck will have the time to find Hilton downfield. One of my biggest takeaways from Week 1 in general was how bad the Indy looked against the Raiders. Can't be understated enough the performance Luck had behind the line. (The TD pass to Dwayne Allen was an unreal individual effort by Luck)
Coby Fleener
Dwayne Allen doubtful. Miami gave up monster game to Cameron last week. I will be officially off the Fleener bandwagon if he puts up a 1-7 stinker here. I think Hilton will be used more down the field (and Fleener underneath with Allen out).
Given how brutal the Indy O-line looked Week 1, I'm not sure Luck will have the time to find Hilton downfield. One of my biggest takeaways from Week 1 in general was how bad the Indy looked against the Raiders. Can't be understated enough the performance Luck had behind the line. (The TD pass to Dwayne Allen was an unreal individual effort by Luck)
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I agree CK looks great. Keep in mind the Packers were missing Casey Hayward one of their starting corner backs. That certainly did not hurt CK or Boldin not having to deal with him.
Voice Of Reason
Footballguy
Wilson has played as well as Kaepernick so far in their careers.
Seattle's defense is probably better than San Fran's.
Seattle is at home.
Vegas has Seattle -3, albeit paying 1:1 on Seattle's side.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I agree they'll gameplan to stop Bowe. The question is: are they even competent enough to stop him even if they double team him?
The Duff Man
Footballguy
The Gs for Sea got killed last week by Car. I see SF pulling off the upset and Sea having a hard time moving the ball again.
I also dont think Car is that good, the Cam love that is out there makes a lot of people think they SHOULD be good. I like the Bills to win at home. A lot of people posted last week how Manuel would be rattled against NE and turn it over a bunch of times....didnt happen the kid looks cool and has more weapons around him than Cam, and the home field crowd which made an impact last week.
I also dont think Car is that good, the Cam love that is out there makes a lot of people think they SHOULD be good. I like the Bills to win at home. A lot of people posted last week how Manuel would be rattled against NE and turn it over a bunch of times....didnt happen the kid looks cool and has more weapons around him than Cam, and the home field crowd which made an impact last week.
Called my shot here.... 24-0 at halftime. If not for Lacy going out with a concussion would have been 2 for 2.Final score might be about right, but it's going to be a blowout by half-time.Washington at Green Bay (-7) (49.5)
Are the Skins the team that came out and did nothing the 1st half or is this the team that started to find itself at the end of the game. Chip kelly says his team let up to his dismay last week but can they hold the intensity for 60 minutes? The Packers saw a lot last week and I doubt that RGIII is going to scare them after a shellacking both times from Colin Kaepernick in the last few games the team has taken the field? The Packers don't cover well and I think I would roll the dice on Garcon, Hankerson as well as Santana Moss, that's the Skins best 3WR set IMO plus Fred Davis at TE, it's go time if they can put it all together again.
I'm going to explain the Niners success and why they do the read option better than anyone when we get to the Seattle-SF game. "Wow, is MOP really pimping a later part of this thread, what a bag"
The Packers IMO looked good on offense when Rodgers wasn't escaping pressure and when he could hook up with both Nelson and Cobb. I was impressed with both of them and think both will prove valuable during the season. I also liked parts of Eddie Lacy but like many backs last week he struggled to gain yards on the ground.
Ready for Roy Helu to see more touches.
Final Score: Green Bay 35...Washington 24
The reason Kaep was successful is because he is a fantastic passer as well as runner. Griffin certainly has that ability... but not right now. He couldn't make wide open passes in the pocket, let alone while running outside of the pocket (which is where Kaep did virtually all of his damage against Green Bay).
I see the Packers employing the same "move-him-off-the-point-but-don't-let-him-run" strategy, only this week it will be very successful. Griffin clearly was not comfortable either passing OR running, and he's going to have to do both at the same time to make any big plays against the Packers. Again, that's where Kaep crushed last week, finding the open guy while scrambling. Griffin is not ready for that kind of a game so I doubt the 'Skins score more than a field goal before half-time.
I also beg to differ that the Packers can't cover. Their secondary is a top 5 unit (as a whole, I believe the top 6 guys all graded positive for the season from PFF); UNFORTUNATELY, the top two guys did not play. The secondary held for a long time on each play last week but they can't hold forever; Kaep just made better plays with his arm, throwing to the open spaces and the receivers got there first. Kudos to Kaep for an amazing game. Griffin doesn't have it in him yet this year to do all that, though, and it would take that superb effort to beat the Pack. Even with Kaep playing lights out, the Packers were still ahead in the 4th quarter.
Also calling my shot that this is the first game in 3 years where a Packer goes for over 100 yards. Get' em Lacy!
edit: Starks goes for over 100 yards rushing. Would have been Lacy if not for concussion.
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Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Turned out well.
Had 2nd TD catch negated by penalty. I really believe they've got to keep D.Allen to block when healthy. That line is terrible. Was my biggest takeaway week 1 and only confirmed even more Week 2.
Fleener's got real nice TD potential this year. Nice bye week TE when Allen healthy/startable when Allen out. Wouldn't surprise me if finished Top 12 TE's.
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