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Weekly Waiver Wire and FAAB Discussion - Week 13 (11 Viewers)

JohnnyU

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This thread doesn't take into account whether redraft or dynasty. I know some of these guys are already rostered in dynasty. This list isn't ranked in any order. No byes this week, but there are in week 14.

Devin Neal - Kamara had a knee injury. I don't know how bad it is. Plus, it looks like Taysom Hill gets the ball in the red zone, so I don't see how valuable Neal will be, but his upcoming schedule is favorable.

Taysom Hill - See Devin Neal.

Andrei Iosivas - Looks like Tee Higgins is in the concussion protocol so Iosivas may have another week of relevance. The Bengals get Chase back in week 13 and Joe Burrow probably returns week 13. Flacco suffered a dislocated finger. It doesn't matter because Burrow is probably back.

Michael Wilson - Probably picked up last week because of the Harrison injury, but he's definitely someone to pick up if he's out there.

Greg Dortch - I'm not sure when Marvin Harrison jr. is coming back and Dortch looked pretty good yesterday 9/53/1. He definitely adds a spark to the WR room. Brissett does throw it a lot.

Chiefs WRs - Rashee Rice suffered a hamstring injury yesterday. I'm not sure how severe yet. While he gutted it out against Indianapolis, it will be interesting to see how things unfold in the near future, particularly with a Thursday Thanksgiving game vs the Cowboys.

Bucs QBs - Baker Mayfield sprained his shoulder. MRI coming.

Brenton Strange - He was activated off the IR yesterday. If you're struggling at TE, he may help.

Mason Rudolph - Rodgers (wrist) was inactive yesterday

Jayden Reed - Probably time to get him if he's available. I know he won't be in dynasty before someone says "he's already on a roster in all my leagues". He's been on the IR but should be back in the next week or two.

Raiders RBs - Ashton Jeanty suffered a left ankle injury yesterday. I don't think this was severe. His foot escaped the tackle without getting pinned. At worst probably a mild high ankle sprain that could keep him out a few weeks, or best case scenario he doesn't miss any time. Had that foot gotten pinned we could be talking about a season ender, so he was lucky. I know the backups in LV are ugly, but Raheem Mostert is probably available on your waiver wire.

Kenneth Gainwell - He's starting to take usage away from Warren 10/92/0. He had two TDs called back yesterday.

Kyle Monangai - He played 35 snaps yesterday to Swift 29. Does this mean more usage going forward? He had 12/48/1 stat line, with swift 8/15/0. Monangai looks better than Swift. Also, Swift fumbled.

Kareem Hunt - He had over 100 yards yesterday. Will the Chiefs realize they are a better team if they don't abandon the run? Pachecho was out yesterday.

Emanuel Wilson - Probably already picked up last week and is a must own for Jacobs owners. Not sure if Jacobs will play this Thursday.

Brian Thomas Jr. - I know I know I know. He could be back in week 13. IMO he is the only startable WR in Jax if he's healthy. I suppose he could have been dropped in redraft leagues.

Cardinals RBs - I don't think anyone is startable unitil Benson comes back.

Dylan Sampson - Judkins got banged up but came back in. I thought Sampson looked good enough and Judkins owners might consider him as a rosterable handcuff.

Steelers WRs - D K Metcalf was in and out of the lineup with an ankle injury. Not sure if he's OK for next week. Probably will be questionable.

Chris Rodriguez - Probably already rostered, but if he isn't he should be rostered.

Chimere Dike - He's looked pretty good. I suppose he could definitely be available in some leagues.

Jayden Higgins - He won't be available in dynasty leagues, but in redraft he could be. I would add him.

John Metchie - Knock yourself out. I'm not going there.

Christian Kirk - No thanks.

Adonai Mitchell - No thanks.

Defense Streamers - 49'ers @ Browns, Chargers vs Raiders, Jaguars @ Titans, Dolphins vs Saints, Falcons @ Jets, Seahawks @ Vikings.
 
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Tee Higgins concussion basically makes him out this week because he doesn't have enough time to clear the protocol before Thursday's game.
 
And maybe T. Hill.
30 years from now we’re still going to be considering Taysom as a sneaky pickup
I don't think he's worth adding, but you never know I suppose. I watched some of yesterday's game and it was Taysom Hill running the ball inside the red zone. So he definitely could get a few running TDs. He wasn't very effiecient yesterday however.
Agreed, although with Kamara looking out and a rookie QB, I can see Taysom getting a good amount of work.
 
And maybe T. Hill.
30 years from now we’re still going to be considering Taysom as a sneaky pickup
I don't think he's worth adding, but you never know I suppose. I watched some of yesterday's game and it was Taysom Hill running the ball inside the red zone. So he definitely could get a few running TDs. He wasn't very effiecient yesterday however.
Agreed, although with Kamara looking out and a rookie QB, I can see Taysom getting a good amount of work.
I do too. That’s why I wish he would go away. I’m tired of hearing about Taysom Hill.
 
Brenton Strange TE has played 5 full games for Jax. In those games he was the leading receiver 3 times and scored 9.9 (full) or better 4 times.

A good add for most of us.
 
And maybe T. Hill.
30 years from now we’re still going to be considering Taysom as a sneaky pickup
I don't think he's worth adding, but you never know I suppose. I watched some of yesterday's game and it was Taysom Hill running the ball inside the red zone. So he definitely could get a few running TDs. He wasn't very effiecient yesterday however.
Agreed, although with Kamara looking out and a rookie QB, I can see Taysom getting a good amount of work.

Taysom looks good, problem is how they’re using him. The plays are being telegraphed. He is getting opportunities inside the 5 but in general the Saints are the 2nd worse team in football in that situation.
 
What's wrong with Raheem Mostert? You guys above it all somehow? I'll take him and then some, thank you.
Taking a chance that your comments aren't made in jest, I'll bit.... He's arguably the worst RB2 on arguably the worst offense in the NFL. Not to mention, he's what? 33YO? :unsure:

Not saying he doesn't deserve attention in some formats, but it's going to have to be a pretty deep league for me to even consider a bid. That said, I have already owned him in one league this year, just as a "stash and see what happens" option. Dropped him like two weeks later when I saw how bad LVR looked on offense. :shrug:
 
What's wrong with Raheem Mostert? You guys above it all somehow? I'll take him and then some, thank you.
Taking a chance that your comments aren't made in jest, I'll bit.... He's arguably the worst RB2 on arguably the worst offense in the NFL. Not to mention, he's what? 33YO? :unsure:

Not saying he doesn't deserve attention in some formats, but it's going to have to be a pretty deep league for me to even consider a bid. That said, I have already owned him in one league this year, just as a "stash and see what happens" option. Dropped him like two weeks later when I saw how bad LVR looked on offense. :shrug:
New OC for the Raiders starting this week. Chip Kelly given a pink slip
 
What's wrong with Raheem Mostert? You guys above it all somehow? I'll take him and then some, thank you.
Taking a chance that your comments aren't made in jest, I'll bit.... He's arguably the worst RB2 on arguably the worst offense in the NFL. Not to mention, he's what? 33YO? :unsure:

Not saying he doesn't deserve attention in some formats, but it's going to have to be a pretty deep league for me to even consider a bid. That said, I have already owned him in one league this year, just as a "stash and see what happens" option. Dropped him like two weeks later when I saw how bad LVR looked on offense. :shrug:
Hes definitely not the worst RB2. Id rather own him for a week than Neal.
 

What's wrong with Raheem Mostert? You guys above it all somehow? I'll take him and then some, thank you.
Taking a chance that your comments aren't made in jest, I'll bit.... He's arguably the worst RB2 on arguably the worst offense in the NFL. Not to mention, he's what? 33YO? :unsure:

Not saying he doesn't deserve attention in some formats, but it's going to have to be a pretty deep league for me to even consider a bid. That said, I have already owned him in one league this year, just as a "stash and see what happens" option. Dropped him like two weeks later when I saw how bad LVR looked on offense. :shrug:

Gotcha. Sometimes I assume context is constant. Not so. I’m in a hell of a deep league where any young RB or back up is rostered. I essentially am a Zero, or really, Anchor RB guy. That’s not a pre-planned choice; it’s the market of 12 players and where I see inefficiencies that let me maximize points for cheap because it’s dynasty and I’ve had no better than the 1.11 three years running plus our FAAB is inverse order of finish so I have to be cheap and effective and RBs are for the profligate. They are context-dependent, injured more frequently than any other position, and subject to whim and situation more than any other

On to Mostert. He’s returning kicks and still has plenty of speed. I’ve liked him since he broke through with that game against the Packers. He was something else that day and I’ve seen quite a few all-time performances. It was a game that was up there with the best of them. So yeah I’ll see what a chip and a chair get me at the Mostert Table

And I know how his OL is. It’s woeful.

I do want to say that your objections are solid.
 
And maybe T. Hill.
30 years from now we’re still going to be considering Taysom as a sneaky pickup
I don't think he's worth adding, but you never know I suppose. I watched some of yesterday's game and it was Taysom Hill running the ball inside the red zone. So he definitely could get a few running TDs. He wasn't very effiecient yesterday however.
He had 10 carries!
 

What's wrong with Raheem Mostert? You guys above it all somehow? I'll take him and then some, thank you.
Taking a chance that your comments aren't made in jest, I'll bit.... He's arguably the worst RB2 on arguably the worst offense in the NFL. Not to mention, he's what? 33YO? :unsure:

Not saying he doesn't deserve attention in some formats, but it's going to have to be a pretty deep league for me to even consider a bid. That said, I have already owned him in one league this year, just as a "stash and see what happens" option. Dropped him like two weeks later when I saw how bad LVR looked on offense. :shrug:

Gotcha. Sometimes I assume context is constant. Not so. I’m in a hell of a deep league where any young RB or back up is rostered. I essentially am a Zero, or really, Anchor RB guy. That’s not a pre-planned choice; it’s the market of 12 players and where I see inefficiencies that let me maximize points for cheap because it’s dynasty and I’ve had no better than the 1.11 three years running plus our FAAB is inverse order of finish so I have to be cheap and effective and RBs are for the profligate. They are context-dependent, injured more frequently than any other position, and subject to whim and situation more than any other

On to Mostert. He’s returning kicks and still has plenty of speed. I’ve liked him since he broke through with that game against the Packers. He was something else that day and I’ve seen quite a few all-time performances. It was a game that was up there with the best of them. So yeah I’ll see what a chip and a chair get me at the Mostert Table

And I know how his OL is. It’s woeful.

I do want to say that your objections are solid.
He's on my target list.

Even with that horrid offensive line, Geno has been checking down to Jenty so often that Mostert could get you by via PPR scam.
 
What's wrong with Raheem Mostert? You guys above it all somehow? I'll take him and then some, thank you.
Taking a chance that your comments aren't made in jest, I'll bit.... He's arguably the worst RB2 on arguably the worst offense in the NFL. Not to mention, he's what? 33YO? :unsure:

Not saying he doesn't deserve attention in some formats, but it's going to have to be a pretty deep league for me to even consider a bid. That said, I have already owned him in one league this year, just as a "stash and see what happens" option. Dropped him like two weeks later when I saw how bad LVR looked on offense. :shrug:
New OC for the Raiders starting this week. Chip Kelly given a pink slip
Yeah, and that might be one of the pro's in terms of why I'd bump Mostert up just slightly, when weighing the pro's and con's of waiver wire backs available. Sometimes change, any change, is good... Especially when things are going very poorly. For example, I haven't given up on JJM yet in MIN. But, considering how rough the past couple of weeks have been, I'm sort of excited to see what Brosmer can do next week. I expect it to be ugly, given MIN has never played well in SEA, but I'm still interested to see how it plays out.
 
And maybe T. Hill.
30 years from now we’re still going to be considering Taysom as a sneaky pickup
I don't think he's worth adding, but you never know I suppose. I watched some of yesterday's game and it was Taysom Hill running the ball inside the red zone. So he definitely could get a few running TDs. He wasn't very effiecient yesterday however.
He had 10 carries!

This tells me that if you have the room in dynasty to stash Kendre then you might wantto
 

What's wrong with Raheem Mostert? You guys above it all somehow? I'll take him and then some, thank you.
Taking a chance that your comments aren't made in jest, I'll bit.... He's arguably the worst RB2 on arguably the worst offense in the NFL. Not to mention, he's what? 33YO? :unsure:

Not saying he doesn't deserve attention in some formats, but it's going to have to be a pretty deep league for me to even consider a bid. That said, I have already owned him in one league this year, just as a "stash and see what happens" option. Dropped him like two weeks later when I saw how bad LVR looked on offense. :shrug:

Gotcha. Sometimes I assume context is constant. Not so. I’m in a hell of a deep league where any young RB or back up is rostered. I essentially am a Zero, or really, Anchor RB guy. That’s not a pre-planned choice; it’s the market of 12 players and where I see inefficiencies that let me maximize points for cheap because it’s dynasty and I’ve had no better than the 1.11 three years running plus our FAAB is inverse order of finish so I have to be cheap and effective and RBs are for the profligate. They are context-dependent, injured more frequently than any other position, and subject to whim and situation more than any other

On to Mostert. He’s returning kicks and still has plenty of speed. I’ve liked him since he broke through with that game against the Packers. He was something else that day and I’ve seen quite a few all-time performances. It was a game that was up there with the best of them. So yeah I’ll see what a chip and a chair get me at the Mostert Table

And I know how his OL is. It’s woeful.

I do want to say that your objections are solid.
Makes sense. Obviously, everything is relative and I'm probably in a league or two where he'll be somewhere on my list in terms of bidding/waivers requests as well. I took your initial post/question to be more of a "why wouldn't you people be going after Mostert this week?" And, depending on format/size of the league, I can think of a bunch of reasons, just a couple of which I listed. So, I guess I was more of just playing devil's advocate as to why people might not be tripping over themselves to go grab him, if that makes sense.

I was high on Mostert too.... About a half-dozen years ago when he broke out. In a much different offense (where just about any back with legs could put up production behind a really good O-Line). He had his couple of years of being a relative stud after that, then sort of fizzled out. Hasn't really done anything of relevance in what.... almost two years? But, yeah, I get it.... If there's literally nothing else available that might see 10-15 touches, he's worth a look.
 
What's wrong with Raheem Mostert? You guys above it all somehow? I'll take him and then some, thank you.
Taking a chance that your comments aren't made in jest, I'll bit.... He's arguably the worst RB2 on arguably the worst offense in the NFL. Not to mention, he's what? 33YO? :unsure:

Not saying he doesn't deserve attention in some formats, but it's going to have to be a pretty deep league for me to even consider a bid. That said, I have already owned him in one league this year, just as a "stash and see what happens" option. Dropped him like two weeks later when I saw how bad LVR looked on offense. :shrug:
Hes definitely not the worst RB2. Id rather own him for a week than Neal.
I'd rather Neal. Better schedule. Young coach evaluating talent. Aging vet might be out 2-4 weeks. The opportunity is there. Mostert gets maybe a week in a bad offense and then the rookie comes back.
 
What's wrong with Raheem Mostert? You guys above it all somehow? I'll take him and then some, thank you.
Taking a chance that your comments aren't made in jest, I'll bit.... He's arguably the worst RB2 on arguably the worst offense in the NFL. Not to mention, he's what? 33YO? :unsure:

Not saying he doesn't deserve attention in some formats, but it's going to have to be a pretty deep league for me to even consider a bid. That said, I have already owned him in one league this year, just as a "stash and see what happens" option. Dropped him like two weeks later when I saw how bad LVR looked on offense. :shrug:
Hes definitely not the worst RB2. Id rather own him for a week than Neal.
That's debatable. But, yeah, that's why I said "arguably." Put it this way... Going into this season, he was well into the bottom half of 32, in terms of "backup" RB's I'd be stashing in deep leagues, best ball leagues, etc. I'm not going to take a poll, but I would imagine many here would agree with that. There were a handful of teams where I would have drafted three backs before considering Mostert. And, that was before we had a chance to see just how bad the LVR offense is. I had high hopes for Geno under Pete Carroll. Hasn't worked out. Pretty much the entire offense has been disappointing to some degree.

But, I get it... Everybody has their opinion, and none are necessarily right or wrong. All I'm saying is that the LVR offense is in the bottom 2-4 in most relevant offensive categories... PPG, yards, rushing, etc. I don't think anybody thinks Mostert is better than Jeanty, so it's about to get worse (most likely), not better. The change in OC is interesting, but the chances that it changes things drastically (at least in a positive direction) are slim. So, more likely than not, LVR will continue to be at/near the bottom in terms of offense, rushing offense, etc. Sure, could he be better than Neal (the 3rd back on another bottom 3 offense)? Absolutely. But, they're both in the conversation.
 
And, on that note, I've spent more time today discussing Mostert than I wanted to spend all season. Not really a hill I'm looking to die on. Could he go out for 100 yards and 2 TD's this week? Of course anything is possible. It's probably more likely that he gets 40 total yards including 5 catches for 15. Which, as we all know, wouldn't be a terrible PPR score.... especially in a real deep league where options are limited.

Bottom line.... I was simply playing devil's advocate as to why Mostert might not be a "no-brainer" target this week. Hope that makes sense.
 

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