Well that didn't take long - Media ponders what will happen if Joe Biden dies in office? (1 Viewer)

[Insein]

Now I know what you're thinking. This has got to be some OAN, Newsmax, Foxnews hit piece. But actually it's from Quartz a proclaimed "center" business journalistic group backed by the Atlantic, New York Times and Wall Street Journal to name a few. 

They didn't even wait a day before saying what some had been thinking all campaign. 

https://qz.com/1959985/what-happens-if-joe-biden-dies-after-the-inauguration/amp/

I personally don't think he makes it all 4 years. I've posted this before but I believe he will step down rather than die in office. 

 

[dawgtrails]

This reads like a middle school text book. Everyone knows what happens if a president dies in office so not sure why they had to write 1000 words on it

 

[Insein]

This reads like a middle school text book. Everyone knows what happens if a president dies in office so not sure why they had to write 1000 words on it

Indeed. Pretty much stating the obvious but they felt the need to post it anyway. 

 

[squistion]

Now I know what you're thinking. This has got to be some OAN, Newsmax, Foxnews hit piece. But actually it's from Quartz a proclaimed "center" business journalistic group backed by the Atlantic, New York Times and Wall Street Journal to name a few. 

They didn't even wait a day before saying what some had been thinking all campaign. 

https://qz.com/1959985/what-happens-if-joe-biden-dies-after-the-inauguration/amp/

I personally don't think he makes it all 4 years. I've posted this before but I believe he will step down rather than die in office. 

And you are right. Quartz? Yeah, that is a credible source. 

 

[SWC]

Indeed. Pretty much stating the obvious but they felt the need to post it anyway. 

and then you felt the need to post it so i support you for honoring the words of stevie  nicks and never breaking the chain take that to the bank brohan   

 

[BladeRunner]

I give him 6 month tops. Kamala ain't waiting 4 years to back into the presidency.

I mean, we all knew this was the plan all along anyways, right?

 

[AAABatteries]

We get to start the socialist state and confiscate the guns sooner?

 

[timschochet]

Biden appears completely cogent and healthy. No reason why he shouldn’t run for a second term. 

 

[AAABatteries]

Biden appears completely cogent and healthy. No reason why he shouldn’t run for a second term. 

Four years is a long time for all of us but especially someone his age - how about we let him get through 2 days before we discuss whether he should rerun.  

 

[timschochet]

Four years is a long time for all of us but especially someone his age - how about we let him get through 2 days before we discuss whether he should rerun.  

Oh I have no idea if he will or even if he should. But it’s far more likely than the prediction that he won’t last 6 months. 

 

[GordonGekko]

This reads like a middle school text book. Everyone knows what happens if a president dies in office so not sure why they had to write 1000 words on it

Joe Biden is the oldest first term POTUS in American political history.  His entire campaign shows unforced errors in speech and memory that FAIRLY raised questions about cognitive issues/cognitive decline. Many believe he has dementia or early onset of such. The entire debate cycle was basically softball question after softball question. Most of his current interviews has a "bodyman" present. It's his wife or Harris sitting beside him to keep him in check. The rate of activity ( basically nothing from Biden, he literally disappeared for long stretches) in the waning days of the campaign raised alarms. Obama literally walked out of the shadows to start campaigning for Biden. When he speaks, he forgets his current location, the era he's in and who he is referring to at several points.

This discussion is entirely relevant when you consider

1) We are talking the leader of the entire free world

2) We are talking about the leader of America facing a pandemic, economic crisis. massive social unrest and impending war with China.

3) We are talking about actual democracy here and the integrity of our entire nation.  I.E. our system was not designed to elect a "President By Proxy" if he has real cognitive decline/dementia. The left leaning MSM simply refuses to cover this issue. If Biden is not in control, who is in control? Some unelected cabal of interests that no one knows about?

4) He has CONTROL OF AMERICA'S NUCLEAR ARSENAL. I think it's a huge deal when you have a person that no one is sure has dementia and HE CAN SEND THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE INTO NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST AND KILL EVERY LAST LIVING THING ON THE PLANET.

It's like ostriches. Stick your head in the sand and don't talk about it and keep "cancelling" anyone who brings it up. Joe Rogan has a massive social media platform and is downloaded over 200 million times per month across multiple platforms and he came out and said he believes Biden has dementia and almost immediately Rogan was under threat of Spotify employees trying to cancel him out.

Donald Trump might be a 4th rate failed reality TV star and a total grifter and a stone cold narcissist who doesn't appear to have high level critical thinking skills and often he acts like a total **** to everyone, but no one doubts he has self agency. Can anyone be sure of that with Biden?

This issue goes far far far beyond basic partisan politics. This is about our children not getting incinerated and baptized in fire as nukes fall from the sky on top of them.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Biden appears completely cogent and healthy. No reason why he shouldn’t run for a second term. 

I really hope he doesn't run for a 2nd term.

 

[timschochet]

I really hope he doesn't run for a 2nd term.

Why not, if he feels up to it? He’ll win easily. 

 

[BladeRunner]

I really hope he doesn't run for a 2nd term.

Don't worry, Kamala will make sure he won't. 

 

[Sea Duck]

I give him 6 month tops.

The great thing about this prediction is that when you're wrong, you can just move the goalpost and say "I give him 12 months, tops."

 

[dawgtrails]

This discussion is entirely relevant when you consider

I said nothing about the discussion. Did you read the article? It was not an opinion piece on how the country would fare if Biden passed, or what kind of president would Harris be, etc. It literally just walked us through the simple line of succession.

 

[Sea Duck]

Now I know what you're thinking. This has got to be some OAN, Newsmax, Foxnews hit piece.

Why would you assume that people would think that a simple civics refresher is a right-wing hit piece? That's just such a strange worldview.

If your point is that the mainstream media was somehow "suppressing" well-known publicly-available facts until after Biden was inaugurated, then a quick search would have easily disproved that idea.

 

[BladeRunner]

The great thing about this prediction is that when you're wrong, you can just move the goalpost and say "I give him 12 months, tops."

No, unlike you I won't move the goalposts.  I'll just admit I was wrong. 

 

[Terminalxylem]

I give him 6 month tops. Kamala ain't waiting 4 years to back into the presidency.

I mean, we all knew this was the plan all along anyways, right?

Would you care to wager? I’ll take the over, you chose the amount.

 

[BladeRunner]

Would you care to wager? I’ll take the over, you chose the amount.

Sorry but I don't make or take bet involving money.

 

[MTskibum]

Would you care to wager? I’ll take the over, you chose the amount.

Eventually you have to feel bad taking the easy money.

:edit: Assuming you get paid, that is

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Why not, if he feels up to it? He’ll win easily. 

Because he’s an old man who never deserved to be president in the first place.  I wish him well and hope he is one of the best presidents ever.  In 4 years, I doubt he will be on top of his game still.

 

[timschochet]

Because he’s an old man who never deserved to be president in the first place.  I wish him well and hope he is one of the best presidents ever.  In 4 years, I doubt he will be on top of his game still.

He’ll be 82, right? I don’t see why he wouldn’t be on top of his game still. 

 

[Insein]

Why would you assume that people would think that a simple civics refresher is a right-wing hit piece? That's just such a strange worldview.

If your point is that the mainstream media was somehow "suppressing" well-known publicly-available facts until after Biden was inaugurated, then a quick search would have easily disproved that idea.

I was more talking about the headline one day after he was Inaugurated. Seems like something that doesn't even need to be posted.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Sorry but I don't make or take bet involving money.

It doesn’t have to involve money:

If I win, you can never accuse other posters of being hypocritical again.

If you win, pick how you’d like me to improve my posting habits.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Eventually you have to feel bad taking the easy money.

:edit: Assuming you get paid, that is

I rarely gamble, but when I do, it’s usually close to a sure thing.

And I’ve been told conservatives always pay up if they lose a bet, so would could go wrong?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

He’ll be 82, right? I don’t see why he wouldn’t be on top of his game still. 

There are no 82 year olds who are at the top of their game.  At anything.  That's not a criticism of Biden -- I'm happy that he's president and I really wish he had been elected president four years earlier.  It's just a fact of life that people slow down when they get old, and it's also a fact of life that an otherwise-healthy 82 year old is quite a bit more likely to die in any given year than an otherwise-healthy 50 year old.  There's nothing wrong or morbid in acknowledging that and planning accordingly.

I really don't like Kamala Harris and I would strongly prefer that she not become president, but she's capable of doing the job if called upon.  

 

[timschochet]

There are no 82 year olds who are at the top of their game.  At anything.  That's not a criticism of Biden -- I'm happy that he's president and I really wish he had been elected president four years earlier.  It's just a fact of life that people slow down when they get old, and it's also a fact of life that an otherwise-healthy 82 year old is quite a bit more likely to die in any given year than an otherwise-healthy 50 year old.  There's nothing wrong or morbid in acknowledging that and planning accordingly.

I really don't like Kamala Harris and I would strongly prefer that she not become president, but she's capable of doing the job if called upon.  

What I meant was mental acuity. It’s been a conservative meme during the last year that Biden is senile, and I personally know many people that believe this; but I’ve seen no sign of it. 

 

[Alex P Keaton]

What I meant was mental acuity. It’s been a conservative meme during the last year that Biden is senile, and I personally know many people that believe this; but I’ve seen no sign of it. 

Really??   Go back and watch video of him speaking 30 years ago.  Notice how much more quickly he constructs thoughts and translates them into words.   This is quite literally like most near 80-year olds I spend time with.   He isn’t the same guy.  His mental acuity is clearly not the same.  
 
Here is a short, amusing exchange from 1988:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6ho
 

Zero chance that Biden could deliver this rebuke today.  He just can’t do it.  His brain simply doesn’t process like this anymore.  Which isn’t a criticism, it’s just a reality.  He’s old.

 

[DaVinci]

I was more talking about the headline one day after he was Inaugurated. Seems like something that doesn't even need to be posted.

Maybe that’s why you had to go to a media outlet no one has heard of to find it posted.

 

[renesauz]

Biden appears completely cogent and healthy. No reason why he shouldn’t run for a second term. 

While talk of him not making it 4 years is a bit premature....I don't think ANYONE, including Biden himself, expects a second term

 

[renesauz]

What I meant was mental acuity. It’s been a conservative meme during the last year that Biden is senile, and I personally know many people that believe this; but I’ve seen no sign of it. 

this. I watched him in each debate....the man is nowhere close to senile, it's a conservative hit piece. 

That said, I can't see a second term

 

[GordonGekko]

He’ll be 82, right? I don’t see why he wouldn’t be on top of his game still. 

Biden's cringiest bloopers on the campaign trail •Mar 3, 2020

A highlight reel of Joe Biden's most cringe-worthy moments on the 2020 campaign trail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve8kE4SXXTs

Joe Biden's Most Awkward Gaffes Of All Time (Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3) •May 14, 2020

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden once described himself as a “gaffe machine” and we have to agree. Here’s a hilarious collection of epic awkward moments throughout his career in politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_wlQZ5N_2k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQAbF33gFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuIjn6EEIV8

Watch Joe Biden give an endless hug to Hillary Clinton •Aug 16, 2016

Watch another awkward Biden hug as he hangs on to Hillary. CNN's Jeanne Moos shows the endless embrace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSSMG0MaEnQ

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Some will write it off as a stutter. Here's problem. Cognitive decline/Dementia or not, it looks weak to America's foreign enemies. The key role for any POTUS is foreign relations. Do you think Xi Jinping in China is looking for diplomacy? Or do you think he will see a "stutter" and see weakness that he can exploit?

POTUS is not a role where America's national security should be traded off in exchange for some idealized talking point about accepting people with cognitive struggles.

I believe Joe Biden has dementia. No one has to agree. Even if Joe Biden does not have dementia, he looks like a limping gazelle in the jungle of world politics where Putin and Xi are out on the hunt stalking for easy kills. Either road you go down, it leads America into hell.

 

[DaVinci]

The “person, woman, man, camera, TV” test should be mandatory for every presidential candidate.

 

[BladeRunner]

this. I watched him in each debate....the man is nowhere close to senile, it's a conservative hit piece. 

That said, I can't see a second term

Clearly you weren't paying attention. Also, he appeared more than just on the debate stage.  I mean even a cursory search will show you videos that you can't deny.

 

[SoBeDad]

Thus far, 2 days into his term, Biden and team have exhibited good judgement and decision-making skills. Quite a contrast from the chaotic first days of the Trump administration. 

I hope the Biden team is transparent about Biden's physical and mental health  - that would also be a contrast. Age is a risk factor for physical and mental decline, but the odds are heavily in favor of a physically-fit Biden at age 78 surviving 4 more years. I doubt if Biden would run at age 82, unless Trump is the candidate. I don't think he beats a younger candidate who doesn't have Trump's huge negatives.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

What I meant was mental acuity. It’s been a conservative meme during the last year that Biden is senile, and I personally know many people that believe this; but I’ve seen no sign of it. 

There are no 82 years olds who are peak mental acuity.  I have no reason to think that Biden is literally senile, but I'm pretty much 100% confident that 2021 Biden isn't thinking as swiftly as the 2000 model, for example.  I'm sure Biden himself would probably agree with that assessment privately.

 

[squistion]

Clearly you weren't paying attention. Also, he appeared more than just on the debate stage.  I mean even a cursory search will show you videos that you can't deny.

Which are all edited and taken out of context to feed the false meme of Biden's alleged mental deterioration. 

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Which are all edited and taken out of context to feed the false meme of Biden's alleged mental deterioration. 

Biden 3030 was an edit?  Geez dude millions of people watched him fumble over his own closing line. 

 

[dawgtrails]

There are no 82 years olds who are peak mental acuity.  I have no reason to think that Biden is literally senile, but I'm pretty much 100% confident that 2021 Biden isn't thinking as swiftly as the 2000 model, for example.  I'm sure Biden himself would probably agree with that assessment privately.

This is accurate. I would venture a guess that Trump was also not at his finest at his age. Nor is Elizabeth Warren or Bernie or anyone over the age of 70'ish. Doesn't mean they are unable to lead or govern, but to suggest that someone of that age is as sharp as their 45 year old self is pretty naive

 

[Stealthycat]

I don't really trust a 78 year old man to drive in rush hour traffic to be honest.

I actually think if 35 is the min requirement for a POTUS, maybe 55 or 60 should be the maximum. I actually think that's a good idea across the board - really elderly people that seem shaky and foggy, can't string together sentences without stopping to think what they're saying, staring blankly etc..... not good leaders for a nation IMO

 

[timschochet]

Whatever. This same exact criticism was leveled against Ronald Reagan during his entire presidency and especially in 1984 when he ran for a second term. The public didn’t like the criticism and they punished Mondale and the Democrats for making it in a big way. If Republicans want to waste their time making similar completely unfounded charges against Biden I predict they will suffer for it in the same way. 

 

[Insein]

Maybe that’s why you had to go to a media outlet no one has heard of to find it posted.

Looked them up and they've been around since 2012 and as stated they have backing from the Atlantic, NY Times and WSJ for business content.

 

[GordonGekko]

Which are all edited and taken out of context to feed the false meme of Biden's alleged mental deterioration. 

If Biden forgets where he put his egg salad sandwich and glass of Ovaltine,and becomes enraged because he can't find his favorite VHS copy of Matlock to watch, and then responds by launching enough nukes to literally block out the sun and vaporize every living breathing creature on the face of the Earth, I'm sure your words will bring the masses great comfort.

 

[Summer Wheat]

Biden appears completely cogent and healthy. No reason why he shouldn’t run for a second term. 

I just hope he can make it through one term.  I doubt he will run again at 82.   Right now we just need to worry about slip and fall accidents and breaking a hip that will be a huge health setback in his position.

 

[Doug B]

He’ll be 82, right? I don’t see why he wouldn’t be on top of his game still. 

I'll say this much -- 80 today is very unlike 80 when I was a kid. Not 100% of the time, no ... but today, people in their 80s can be plenty spry and sharp.

Really, these days adults just seem "younger" in general at a given point in life than they used to. It's like all the old benchmarks got pushed out in time a dozen years or so -- and especially for those who live reasonably healthy. 

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Whatever. This same exact criticism was leveled against Ronald Reagan during his entire presidency and especially in 1984 when he ran for a second term. The public didn’t like the criticism and they punished Mondale and the Democrats for making it in a big way. If Republicans want to waste their time making similar completely unfounded charges against Biden I predict they will suffer for it in the same way. 

Reagan '84 should not be an example used to reassure anyone other than that the government can function just fine despite the inside the beltway "common knowledge".   

 

[Sea Duck]

I was more talking about the headline one day after he was Inaugurated. Seems like something that doesn't even need to be posted.

Just curious: what prompted you to create this thread? Did you hear about this from social media, or did you randomly stumble across the article yourself?

 

[BladeRunner]

I just hope he can make it through one term.  I doubt he will run again at 82.   Right now we just need to worry about slip and fall accidents and breaking a hip that will be a huge health setback in his position.

Oh, don't worry, I'm sure Kamala is already prepping.  When no one's looking I'm she'll give him that extra nudge just as he's about to step out of Air Force One. 

She isn't waiting 4 years to take over.

 

[Insein]

Just curious: what prompted you to create this thread? Did you hear about this from social media, or did you randomly stumble across the article yourself?

Popped up on my random chrome suggested articles.