WH considering $450k payouts to illegal immigrants separated at border (1 Viewer)

[psychobillies]

Where does this $450k number come from?  How does that help anything at all?  It doesn't reunite any families.  

 

[Mile High]

Where does this $450k number come from?  How does that help anything at all?  It doesn't reunite any families.  

It seems to be the number the lawyers of the government are offering to settle the cases the ACLU are bringing.  They are asking for around 3.4 million average for each defendant.The government isn't offering 450k out of the goodness of their heart, they are being sued.

 

[Summer Wheat]

It seems to be the number the lawyers of the government are offering to settle the cases the ACLU are bringing.  They are asking 3.4 million each.

Bizarre that lawyers who are on the same side are working on a settlement.

Doocy asked if you are paying people who broke the law and entered the country ilegally..what are you giving the people who followed the laws and came here legally?   Deputy PS looked dumbfounded and said   "Well..nothing"

Lady who took Psaki`s place can`t duck questions or lie as good as Jen.

 

[Mile High]

Bizarre that lawyers who are on the same side are working on a settlement.

Doocy asked if you are paying people who broke the law and entered the country ilegally..what are you giving the people who followed the laws and came here legally?   Deputy PS looked dumbfounded and said   "Well..nothing"

Lady who took Psaki`s place can`t duck questions or lie as good as Jen.

Are the people who came here legally sueing the government for 3.4 m for separating them from their children?

 

[Shula-holic]

It seems to be the number the lawyers of the government are offering to settle the cases the ACLU are bringing.  They are asking for around 3.4 million average for each defendant.The government isn't offering 450k out of the goodness of their heart, they are being sued.

It's rare though that the side being sued is saying we owe these people money as our President just did.  To quote him,  “You lost your child, it’s gone — you deserve some kind of compensation, no matter what the circumstance"  Kind of makes defending the action pretty difficult, which in my opinion we should do down to the last dime.

 

[Mile High]

It's rare though that the side being sued is saying we owe these people money as our President just did.  To quote him,  “You lost your child, it’s gone — you deserve some kind of compensation, no matter what the circumstance"  Kind of makes defending the action pretty difficult, which in my opinion we should do down to the last dime.

I'm fine with fighting it to. Just be prepared to accept the results then.

 

[Sand]

If the government fights this in court and loses and the defendants get the 3.4 million each you are good with that then? That would be the results of the law.

US. Govt.:  We claim sovereign immunity from these foreign claims.

 

[Sand]

I get it. These folks crossed the border into our country illegally. They broke the law. But I cannot for the life of me wrap my head around that crime being equal to or worse than having your child or children separated from you and then literally losing them because the government/country that you broke the laws of actually losing them with no idea where they may be. No way of finding your children because that government didn't care the slightest bit to keep track of your kids.

Listen to this interview.  

These kids were not lost.  When removed from the country these illegal immigrants chose to leave their children in the US.  They were separated by their own choice, not by govt. fiat.  The ACLU would have the US fly the parents back, reunite with children they voluntarily abandoned in the US, and paid for their choice to leave their child.

 

[Godsbrother]

Note trying to be funny here.  I remember seeing an episode of Judge Judy where a plaintiff was suing the defendant for not getting cash on some scheme they cooked up.

The plaintiff wanted the money he felt he was due and JJ ruled that the law does not award damages to someone that was doing something illegal or some such thing (hey it's been a while).  She used a legal term but I do not recall what it was.

In any case I am surprised that a court would award cash to someone wronged (being separated from their kids) when that act was caused by their own illegal actions.

 

[Shula-holic]

Note trying to be funny here.  I remember seeing an episode of Judge Judy where a plaintiff was suing the defendant for not getting cash on some scheme they cooked up.

The plaintiff wanted the money he felt he was due and JJ ruled that the law does not award damages to someone that was doing something illegal or some such thing (hey it's been a while).  She used a legal term but I do not recall what it was.

In any case I am surprised that a court would award cash to someone wronged (being separated from their kids) when that act was caused by their own illegal actions.

Totally different I know but was it contributory negligence?

 

[Godsbrother]

Totally different I know but was it contributory negligence?

Maybe. 

I don't think it was negligence case but WTH do I know?

 

[Snotbubbles]

Note trying to be funny here.  I remember seeing an episode of Judge Judy where a plaintiff was suing the defendant for not getting cash on some scheme they cooked up.

The plaintiff wanted the money he felt he was due and JJ ruled that the law does not award damages to someone that was doing something illegal or some such thing (hey it's been a while).  She used a legal term but I do not recall what it was.

In any case I am surprised that a court would award cash to someone wronged (being separated from their kids) when that act was caused by their own illegal actions.

Unclean hands doctrine?

 

[Godsbrother]

Unclean hands doctrine?

That's it!!!  Thank you.

Not sure it applies in this case but it seems like it should.  And don't get me wrong I sympathize with these people but had they not entered the country illegally they would not have been separated.

 

[Snotbubbles]

That's it!!!  Thank you.

Not sure it applies in this case but it seems like it should.  And don't get me wrong I sympathize with these people but had they not entered the country illegally they would not have been separated.

When you claim asylum you aren't breaking the law though.  You have to show up at a port of entry in the US and apply for it.  

 

[Godsbrother]

When you claim asylum you aren't breaking the law though.  You have to show up at a port of entry in the US and apply for it.  

Okay I was not aware of that… nevermind 

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

In any case I am surprised that a court would award cash to someone wronged (being separated from their kids) when that act was caused by their own illegal actions.

Would the court award the kids damages for being separated from their parents?