What are the chances Derek Anderson loses his job? (1 Viewer)

[Thumper]

I guess this question is two fold.

1/ How good is Anderson? Is he a legit top flight fantasy qb or will his weak play from the second half of last season carry over into 2008?

2/ Is there a realistic chance that Anderson will be replaced by Quinn? I have been told by some friends in the Cleveland area that the public wants to see Quinn as the qb.

Are there any Browns homers out there who can help with this question. In my eyes Anderson is a huge boom or bust candidate this year.

How do you project his numbers this year?

Thanks in advance.

 

[gbill2004]

DA will lose his starting job by mid-season.

 

[daveR]

I guess this question is two fold.

1/ How good is Anderson? Is he a legit top flight fantasy qb or will his weak play from the second half of last season carry over into 2008?

2/ Is there a realistic chance that Anderson will be replaced by Quinn? I have been told by some friends in the Cleveland area that the public wants to see Quinn as the qb.

Are there any Browns homers out there who can help with this question. In my eyes Anderson is a huge boom or bust candidate this year.

How do you project his numbers this year?

Thanks in advance.

The Browns have set their sights high this year. Quinn is not nearly developed enough to take them anywhere. Anderson is not a fluke. All that being said, I think the brutal schedule will do them in and Brady will see the field sometime this year. His numbers will be minimal.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I guess this question is two fold.

1/ How good is Anderson? Is he a legit top flight fantasy qb or will his weak play from the second half of last season carry over into 2008?

2/ Is there a realistic chance that Anderson will be replaced by Quinn? I have been told by some friends in the Cleveland area that the public wants to see Quinn as the qb.

Are there any Browns homers out there who can help with this question. In my eyes Anderson is a huge boom or bust candidate this year.

How do you project his numbers this year?

Thanks in advance.

The Browns have set their sights high this year. Quinn is not nearly developed enough to take them anywhere. Anderson is not a fluke. All that being said, I think the brutal schedule will do them in and Brady will see the field sometime this year. His numbers will be minimal.

Yup, that sums it up.

 

[EBF]

I guess this question is two fold.1/ How good is Anderson? Is he a legit top flight fantasy qb or will his weak play from the second half of last season carry over into 2008?

I think he's sort of a Kerry Collins/Eli Manning type of QB. Good enough to make some throws and keep you in games, but not really an ideal starting option. He had a great year for a first year starter, but in his case I believe it's more of a fluke than a sign of future greatness. He always had a big problem with turnovers in college and I think his accuracy and decision making will always be lackluster.

2/ Is there a realistic chance that Anderson will be replaced by Quinn? I have been told by some friends in the Cleveland area that the public wants to see Quinn as the qb.

I think so. The Browns are a trendy pick to win the division this year. If they stumble out of the gates and Anderson plays mediocre football, it will be hard to keep Quinn off the field. I think there's a good chance that he'll be starting by week 10.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I guess this question is two fold.1/ How good is Anderson? Is he a legit top flight fantasy qb or will his weak play from the second half of last season carry over into 2008?2/ Is there a realistic chance that Anderson will be replaced by Quinn? I have been told by some friends in the Cleveland area that the public wants to see Quinn as the qb.Are there any Browns homers out there who can help with this question. In my eyes Anderson is a huge boom or bust candidate this year.How do you project his numbers this year?Thanks in advance.

1. One of the best young QB's in the league. His "weak" play in the 2nd half was still impressive for a first year starter, and those numbers projected over a full year woud have still landed him in the top 12-15 QB's.2. The only chance Quinn has to take Andersons job is if DA gets hurt. Especially since Quinn has looked like garbage in the preseason.Anderson has alot to do with Edwards finally breaking out, that Oline gelling so quick, and Jamal Lewis becoming a top 10 RB again. None of that happens with Quinn as the QB last year.DA is good for another top 10 finish this year with top 5 upside. He has far more "boom" than "bust" potential. 3800 yards and 30 TD's sounds about right.

 

[bucsbaby]

Like him in redraft, don't like him in dynasty

 

[joffer]

Anderson is a better QB today, tomorrow, next year, and the year after that. that said, who knows what happens this year. if the Browns struggle, you might see Quinn.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Brady Quinn plays in the NFL now. Have you seen how unpolished he is as an NFL QB? He can't complete a pass unless it's underneath to a TE or RB out of the backfield.

Quinn is not NFL ready right now.

 

[Tau837]

I'm not one of the search function police, but seriously there has been a lot of very good discussion on this over the past few months, so you should use the search function to find it. I know his player spotlight thread is one example, but there were others too.

 

[SteelerMurf]

I'm not one of the search function police, but seriously there has been a lot of very good discussion on this over the past few months, so you should use the search function to find it. I know his player spotlight thread is one example, but there were others too.

You shouldn't have to drudge up month old posts to discuss the CURRENT thoughts of players. Especially when the news is everchanging. How is his concussion? How is Edwards foot? How did Quinn's sluggish performance with the first team increase or decrease your confidence in DA making it thru the season.

 

[Tau837]

I'm not one of the search function police, but seriously there has been a lot of very good discussion on this over the past few months, so you should use the search function to find it. I know his player spotlight thread is one example, but there were others too.

You shouldn't have to drudge up month old posts to discuss the CURRENT thoughts of players. Especially when the news is everchanging. How is his concussion? How is Edwards foot? How did Quinn's sluggish performance with the first team increase or decrease your confidence in DA making it thru the season.

Whatever. If you don't want to read prior good discussion on this topic, that's your choice.

 

[SteelerMurf]

I'm not one of the search function police, but seriously there has been a lot of very good discussion on this over the past few months, so you should use the search function to find it. I know his player spotlight thread is one example, but there were others too.

You shouldn't have to drudge up month old posts to discuss the CURRENT thoughts of players. Especially when the news is everchanging. How is his concussion? How is Edwards foot? How did Quinn's sluggish performance with the first team increase or decrease your confidence in DA making it thru the season.

Whatever. If you don't want to read prior good discussion on this topic, that's your choice.

And if you chose to spend time twice posting in a thread you didn't want to exist, go right ahead.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

I think Anderson has looked considerably better than Quinn recently.

 

[Irish]

I think Anderson has looked considerably better than Quinn recently.

That's not saying much now is it? The Browns have looked horrible.

 

[MAC_32]

As long as the Browns are in contention DA is the guy.

 

[Tau837]

I'm not one of the search function police, but seriously there has been a lot of very good discussion on this over the past few months, so you should use the search function to find it. I know his player spotlight thread is one example, but there were others too.

You shouldn't have to drudge up month old posts to discuss the CURRENT thoughts of players. Especially when the news is everchanging. How is his concussion? How is Edwards foot? How did Quinn's sluggish performance with the first team increase or decrease your confidence in DA making it thru the season.

Whatever. If you don't want to read prior good discussion on this topic, that's your choice.

And if you chose to spend time twice posting in a thread you didn't want to exist, go right ahead.

I couldn't care less if the thread exists or not. I merely suggested you take advantage of all the previous discussion that exists on this topic. I'm sorry I bothered.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

DA will lose his starting job by mid-season.

Quinn will only start if DA is injured. Even then the football minds in CLE will win and they'll play Dorsey over Quinn. Though they might need to invent a Quinn inj first. Dorsey is a much better nfl qb right now (and probably will always be) than BQ.Disclaimer: I have always been low on Quinn. He is like Ross Perot was in 1992. Looks great to the casual Browns fan, but once you look closely no way he gets the keys to the country.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

I'm not one of the search function police, but seriously there has been a lot of very good discussion on this over the past few months, so you should use the search function to find it. I know his player spotlight thread is one example, but there were others too.

You shouldn't have to drudge up month old posts to discuss the CURRENT thoughts of players. Especially when the news is everchanging. How is his concussion? How is Edwards foot? How did Quinn's sluggish performance with the first team increase or decrease your confidence in DA making it thru the season.

Whatever. If you don't want to read prior good discussion on this topic, that's your choice.

And if you chose to spend time twice posting in a thread you didn't want to exist, go right ahead.

I couldn't care less if the thread exists or not. I merely suggested you take advantage of all the previous discussion that exists on this topic. I'm sorry I bothered.

Not to insert myself in a conversation that I wasn't invited to, but this is a board that debates endlessly the virtues of almost every known player in the NFL even during the doggiest days of the off-season. I'm sure if I used the search function, I could find the most recent opinions on players of much less fantasy importance than Derek Anderson that have plenty of good information. I can understand if there is a post (or multiple posts) on Page 1-3 on a topic/player...but calling someone out for not using the search function... Should be optional...

 

[baconisgood]

DA has serious accuracy issues, he was at 56% last year with Braylon (and to a lesser extent) Winslow making circus catches, and JJ also has good hands. We are not likely to see Quinn for a while though since he's been so bad in preseason. I would say at least 6 games (barring DA injury) even if DA stinks, (not charlie frye bad, he won't be that poor) and throw in a couple of good games and his leash will get longer.

 

[Tau837]

I'm not one of the search function police, but seriously there has been a lot of very good discussion on this over the past few months, so you should use the search function to find it. I know his player spotlight thread is one example, but there were others too.

You shouldn't have to drudge up month old posts to discuss the CURRENT thoughts of players. Especially when the news is everchanging. How is his concussion? How is Edwards foot? How did Quinn's sluggish performance with the first team increase or decrease your confidence in DA making it thru the season.

Whatever. If you don't want to read prior good discussion on this topic, that's your choice.

And if you chose to spend time twice posting in a thread you didn't want to exist, go right ahead.

I couldn't care less if the thread exists or not. I merely suggested you take advantage of all the previous discussion that exists on this topic. I'm sorry I bothered.

Not to insert myself in a conversation that I wasn't invited to, but this is a board that debates endlessly the virtues of almost every known player in the NFL even during the doggiest days of the off-season. I'm sure if I used the search function, I could find the most recent opinions on players of much less fantasy importance than Derek Anderson that have plenty of good information. I can understand if there is a post (or multiple posts) on Page 1-3 on a topic/player...but calling someone out for not using the search function... Should be optional...

Read my posts carefully. Did I say this thread should not have been created? No. Did I call someone out? No. I started out by saying I'm not one of the search function police specifically because I was not doing those things. I said there was a lot of good discussion on the topic in question, and the search function would reveal it. to the reading comprehension displayed in this thread.

 

[Burning Sensation]

DA has serious accuracy issues, he was at 56% last year with Braylon (and to a lesser extent) Winslow making circus catches, and JJ also has good hands. We are not likely to see Quinn for a while though since he's been so bad in preseason. I would say at least 6 games (barring DA injury) even if DA stinks, (not charlie frye bad, he won't be that poor) and throw in a couple of good games and his leash will get longer.

I think DA's accuracy issues can be accounted to three things. One, he is a gunslinger, the guy is not afraid to throw the ball downfield, which of course is going to result in a lower comp. %. Two, DA played in some bad weather at the end of the year. Especially the Bills game, where he was 9 for 24 in a blizzard, and his only game under 50% completion %. Three, and most importantly, inexperience, last year was DA's first year as a starter, it would be unreasonable to think he would not go through some growing pains. How many Int's did Manning throw his rookie year? Also, the circus catch thing is silly. DA put his WR's in a position to make plays, and they did. How many times did Moss come down in double coverage with a 60 yard TD pass from Brady on balls that should have never been thrown.

 

[Tau837]

DA has serious accuracy issues, he was at 56% last year with Braylon (and to a lesser extent) Winslow making circus catches, and JJ also has good hands. We are not likely to see Quinn for a while though since he's been so bad in preseason. I would say at least 6 games (barring DA injury) even if DA stinks, (not charlie frye bad, he won't be that poor) and throw in a couple of good games and his leash will get longer.

I think DA's accuracy issues can be accounted to three things. One, he is a gunslinger, the guy is not afraid to throw the ball downfield, which of course is going to result in a lower comp. %. Two, DA played in some bad weather at the end of the year. Especially the Bills game, where he was 9 for 24 in a blizzard, and his only game under 50% completion %. Three, and most importantly, inexperience, last year was DA's first year as a starter, it would be unreasonable to think he would not go through some growing pains. How many Int's did Manning throw his rookie year? Also, the circus catch thing is silly. DA put his WR's in a position to make plays, and they did. How many times did Moss come down in double coverage with a 60 yard TD pass from Brady on balls that should have never been thrown.

And not only was it his first year as a starter, he was not prepared in training camp and preseason to be the starter last year, since he came off the bench in game 1.

 

[Burning Sensation]

DA has serious accuracy issues, he was at 56% last year with Braylon (and to a lesser extent) Winslow making circus catches, and JJ also has good hands. We are not likely to see Quinn for a while though since he's been so bad in preseason. I would say at least 6 games (barring DA injury) even if DA stinks, (not charlie frye bad, he won't be that poor) and throw in a couple of good games and his leash will get longer.

I think DA's accuracy issues can be accounted to three things. One, he is a gunslinger, the guy is not afraid to throw the ball downfield, which of course is going to result in a lower comp. %. Two, DA played in some bad weather at the end of the year. Especially the Bills game, where he was 9 for 24 in a blizzard, and his only game under 50% completion %. Three, and most importantly, inexperience, last year was DA's first year as a starter, it would be unreasonable to think he would not go through some growing pains. How many Int's did Manning throw his rookie year? Also, the circus catch thing is silly. DA put his WR's in a position to make plays, and they did. How many times did Moss come down in double coverage with a 60 yard TD pass from Brady on balls that should have never been thrown.

And not only was it his first year as a starter, he was not prepared in training camp and preseason to be the starter last year, since he came off the bench in game 1.

Exactly, he was pretty much thrown into the fire at the end of the Steelers game in week 1. The guy had alot to do with turning what looked to be a horrible Browns team in week one into a playoff contender, going 10-5 as the starter.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

I think DA's accuracy issues can be accounted to three things. One, he is a gunslinger, the guy is not afraid to throw the ball downfield, which of course is going to result in a lower comp. %.

This isn't correct. I think his longer throws would grade out above average. It seems to be the shorter throws that DA struggles with.

Two, DA played in some bad weather at the end of the year. Especially the Bills game, where he was 9 for 24 in a blizzard, and his only game under 50% completion %.

This isn't correct. He had 4 games under 50% and 2 more right at 50%.

Three, and most importantly, inexperience, last year was DA's first year as a starter, it would be unreasonable to think he would not go through some growing pains. How many Int's did Manning throw his rookie year?

I can agree with this. People seem to be lost on the fact that he is only a little over a year older than Quinn.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

I'm not one of the search function police, but seriously there has been a lot of very good discussion on this over the past few months, so you should use the search function to find it. I know his player spotlight thread is one example, but there were others too.

You shouldn't have to drudge up month old posts to discuss the CURRENT thoughts of players. Especially when the news is everchanging. How is his concussion? How is Edwards foot? How did Quinn's sluggish performance with the first team increase or decrease your confidence in DA making it thru the season.

Whatever. If you don't want to read prior good discussion on this topic, that's your choice.

And if you chose to spend time twice posting in a thread you didn't want to exist, go right ahead.

I couldn't care less if the thread exists or not. I merely suggested you take advantage of all the previous discussion that exists on this topic. I'm sorry I bothered.

Not to insert myself in a conversation that I wasn't invited to, but this is a board that debates endlessly the virtues of almost every known player in the NFL even during the doggiest days of the off-season. I'm sure if I used the search function, I could find the most recent opinions on players of much less fantasy importance than Derek Anderson that have plenty of good information. I can understand if there is a post (or multiple posts) on Page 1-3 on a topic/player...but calling someone out for not using the search function... Should be optional...

Read my posts carefully. Did I say this thread should not have been created? No. Did I call someone out? No. I started out by saying I'm not one of the search function police specifically because I was not doing those things. I said there was a lot of good discussion on the topic in question, and the search function would reveal it. to the reading comprehension displayed in this thread.

I think you get branded the search function police because of posts like yours, not because you actually get a uniform, whistle and paycheck...To point out there is a player spotlight thread...I mean, there are like 150+ of these...why not just go into each post about a player and suggest they view the Player Spotlight?

 

[a_troll00]

I put a very low chance on Quinn getting the starting job this season. He is clearly not yet ready for primetime. The only way Quinn sees the field is with a DA injury.

A note to agents, GMs, and young QBs to be: A young rookie QB missing his first training camp to a holdout is devastating to his career. The rookie QBs must make it to camp on time!

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Brady Quinn plays in the NFL now. Have you seen how unpolished he is as an NFL QB? He can't complete a pass unless it's underneath to a TE or RB out of the backfield.Quinn is not NFL ready right now.

I thought he redshirted for another year on the ND media guide?

 

[Burning Sensation]

Two, DA played in some bad weather at the end of the year. Especially the Bills game, where he was 9 for 24 in a blizzard, and his only game under 50% completion %.

This isn't correct. He had 4 games under 50% and 2 more right at 50%.

I appologize, youre right, OK, the only game he was under 45%.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

As long as the Browns are in contention DA is the guy.

This is true. A complete Browns collapse could cause the Browns to start him to appease the sheeple. Then these threads will get MUCH better....

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Like him in redraft, don't like him in dynasty

you got any openings in your redraft league?explain how this logic works.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

DA has serious accuracy issues, he was at 56% last year with Braylon (and to a lesser extent) Winslow making circus catches, and JJ also has good hands. We are not likely to see Quinn for a while though since he's been so bad in preseason. I would say at least 6 games (barring DA injury) even if DA stinks, (not charlie frye bad, he won't be that poor) and throw in a couple of good games and his leash will get longer.

I think you are making a logical mistake here. As accuracy is not necessarily determinitve of completion % . weather, the browns line, d's etc affect that.But the ACCURACY (judgeing the throws alone) its not even close. I am almost as accurate as Brady Quinn.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

DA has serious accuracy issues, he was at 56% last year with Braylon (and to a lesser extent) Winslow making circus catches, and JJ also has good hands. We are not likely to see Quinn for a while though since he's been so bad in preseason. I would say at least 6 games (barring DA injury) even if DA stinks, (not charlie frye bad, he won't be that poor) and throw in a couple of good games and his leash will get longer.

I think DA's accuracy issues can be accounted to three things. One, he is a gunslinger, the guy is not afraid to throw the ball downfield, which of course is going to result in a lower comp. %. Two, DA played in some bad weather at the end of the year. Especially the Bills game, where he was 9 for 24 in a blizzard, and his only game under 50% completion %. Three, and most importantly, inexperience, last year was DA's first year as a starter, it would be unreasonable to think he would not go through some growing pains. How many Int's did Manning throw his rookie year? Also, the circus catch thing is silly. DA put his WR's in a position to make plays, and they did. How many times did Moss come down in double coverage with a 60 yard TD pass from Brady on balls that should have never been thrown.

And not only was it his first year as a starter, he was not prepared in training camp and preseason to be the starter last year, since he came off the bench in game 1.

double up

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I'm not one of the search function police, but seriously there has been a lot of very good discussion on this over the past few months, so you should use the search function to find it. I know his player spotlight thread is one example, but there were others too.

You shouldn't have to drudge up month old posts to discuss the CURRENT thoughts of players. Especially when the news is everchanging. How is his concussion? How is Edwards foot? How did Quinn's sluggish performance with the first team increase or decrease your confidence in DA making it thru the season.

Whatever. If you don't want to read prior good discussion on this topic, that's your choice.

And if you chose to spend time twice posting in a thread you didn't want to exist, go right ahead.

I couldn't care less if the thread exists or not. I merely suggested you take advantage of all the previous discussion that exists on this topic. I'm sorry I bothered.

Not to insert myself in a conversation that I wasn't invited to, but this is a board that debates endlessly the virtues of almost every known player in the NFL even during the doggiest days of the off-season. I'm sure if I used the search function, I could find the most recent opinions on players of much less fantasy importance than Derek Anderson that have plenty of good information. I can understand if there is a post (or multiple posts) on Page 1-3 on a topic/player...but calling someone out for not using the search function... Should be optional...

Read my posts carefully. Did I say this thread should not have been created? No. Did I call someone out? No. I started out by saying I'm not one of the search function police specifically because I was not doing those things. I said there was a lot of good discussion on the topic in question, and the search function would reveal it. to the reading comprehension displayed in this thread.

I think you get branded the search function police because of posts like yours, not because you actually get a uniform, whistle and paycheck...To point out there is a player spotlight thread...I mean, there are like 150+ of these...why not just go into each post about a player and suggest they view the Player Spotlight?

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

DA has serious accuracy issues, he was at 56% last year with Braylon (and to a lesser extent) Winslow making circus catches, and JJ also has good hands. We are not likely to see Quinn for a while though since he's been so bad in preseason. I would say at least 6 games (barring DA injury) even if DA stinks, (not charlie frye bad, he won't be that poor) and throw in a couple of good games and his leash will get longer.

I think you are making a logical mistake here. As accuracy is not necessarily determinitve of completion % . weather, the browns line, d's etc affect that.But the ACCURACY (judgeing the throws alone) its not even close. I am almost as accurate as Brady Quinn.

Did Brady Quinn steal your girlfriend? Good Lord. You have passed that point where your opinion is useful due to your rabid prejudice. As far as the OP's question goes, With Pittsburgh's schedule being difficult, I think DA's odds of keeping his job go up. For Cleveland, I am going to count the Dallas game as a loss to open the season and count the @ Baltimore game as a win. If the Browns lose to Pittsburgh at Home and on the road to Cincy and go into the bye at 1-3 I would be looking for buyers in a hurry if I owned DA.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

DA has serious accuracy issues, he was at 56% last year with Braylon (and to a lesser extent) Winslow making circus catches, and JJ also has good hands. We are not likely to see Quinn for a while though since he's been so bad in preseason. I would say at least 6 games (barring DA injury) even if DA stinks, (not charlie frye bad, he won't be that poor) and throw in a couple of good games and his leash will get longer.

I think you are making a logical mistake here. As accuracy is not necessarily determinitve of completion % . weather, the browns line, d's etc affect that.But the ACCURACY (judgeing the throws alone) its not even close. I am almost as accurate as Brady Quinn.

Did Brady Quinn steal your girlfriend? Good Lord. You have passed that point where your opinion is useful due to your rabid prejudice.

Nah, ask anyone. I just love being right.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

and OBVIOUSLY since your sarcasm detector is off. I AM NOT AS ACCURATE AS

THE MIGHTY QUINN

 

[Irish]

Two, DA played in some bad weather at the end of the year. Especially the Bills game, where he was 9 for 24 in a blizzard, and his only game under 50% completion %.

This isn't correct. He had 4 games under 50% and 2 more right at 50%.

I appologize, youre right, OK, the only game he was under 45%.

His completion % was not that great in college either. I don't forsee DA losing his job unless Cleveland really collapses this season or by injury.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I guess this question is two fold.

1/ How good is Anderson? Is he a legit top flight fantasy qb or will his weak play from the second half of last season carry over into 2008?

I think he's sort of a Kerry Collins/Eli Manning type of QB. Good enough to make some throws and keep you in games, but not really an ideal starting option. He had a great year for a first year starter, but in his case I believe it's more of a fluke than a sign of future greatness. He always had a big problem with turnovers in college and I think his accuracy and decision making will always be lackluster.

2/ Is there a realistic chance that Anderson will be replaced by Quinn? I have been told by some friends in the Cleveland area that the public wants to see Quinn as the qb.

I think so. The Browns are a trendy pick to win the division this year. If they stumble out of the gates and Anderson plays mediocre football, it will be hard to keep Quinn off the field. I think there's a good chance that he'll be starting by week 10.

I don't agree with you here, EBF. Eli has pulled himself up out of reach of the Kerry Collins and Derek Anderson's of the world and what he did last year, he should never have to hear the words "not really an ideal starting option."I think Derek Anderson is pretty good. There's a lot of pressure out there because ultimately, Browns fans wished it were Brady Quinn who was the guy leading the team to exciting victories. No matter how well Anderson plays, if they're not winning, Quinn will get a chance to lead.

However, my belief is that Quinn isn't that good. They're going to find out just how good they have it and I'm just about certain that Quinn could NEVER have made that Brown offense click like it did last year.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

DA has serious accuracy issues, he was at 56% last year with Braylon (and to a lesser extent) Winslow making circus catches, and JJ also has good hands. We are not likely to see Quinn for a while though since he's been so bad in preseason. I would say at least 6 games (barring DA injury) even if DA stinks, (not charlie frye bad, he won't be that poor) and throw in a couple of good games and his leash will get longer.

I think DA's accuracy issues can be accounted to three things. One, he is a gunslinger, the guy is not afraid to throw the ball downfield, which of course is going to result in a lower comp. %. Two, DA played in some bad weather at the end of the year. Especially the Bills game, where he was 9 for 24 in a blizzard, and his only game under 50% completion %. Three, and most importantly, inexperience, last year was DA's first year as a starter, it would be unreasonable to think he would not go through some growing pains. How many Int's did Manning throw his rookie year? Also, the circus catch thing is silly. DA put his WR's in a position to make plays, and they did. How many times did Moss come down in double coverage with a 60 yard TD pass from Brady on balls that should have never been thrown.

It's easy to forget Anderson was a first year starter. Not only are people underestimating Anderson, they are drastically overvaluing Quinn. What exactly has he shown other than the fact he is barely good at dump off passes? He has not impressed me at all.

 

[JaxBill]

I'm more concerned that Anderson already is recovering from a concussion heading into the schedule that starts Cowboys, Ravens, Steelers. I don't think Quinn is anywhere close to Anderson right now as far as handling NFL defenses, but I'm worried that if Anderson gets knocked out again, it could be for a couple weeks.

 

[Tanner9919]

I guess this question is two fold.

1/ How good is Anderson? Is he a legit top flight fantasy qb or will his weak play from the second half of last season carry over into 2008?

2/ Is there a realistic chance that Anderson will be replaced by Quinn? I have been told by some friends in the Cleveland area that the public wants to see Quinn as the qb.

Are there any Browns homers out there who can help with this question. In my eyes Anderson is a huge boom or bust candidate this year.

How do you project his numbers this year?

Thanks in advance.

The Browns have set their sights high this year. Quinn is not nearly developed enough to take them anywhere. Anderson is not a fluke. All that being said, I think the brutal schedule will do them in and Brady will see the field sometime this year. His numbers will be minimal.

Anderson is in fact, a fluke..his number tailed off significantly during the second half of the 2007 season, where he tossed nearly a 1:1 ratio of INT to TD. yuck.The Brownies tried to trade him in the off-season,tells you all you need to know about where they think he is right now..

he will not be starting by mid-season, the brutal Browns schedule will make this team start out 0-3, and they'll likely switch QB's at the bye week or soon after..

 

[Godsbrother]

With Pittsburgh's schedule being difficult, I think DA's odds of keeping his job go up. For Cleveland, I am going to count the Dallas game as a loss to open the season and count the @ Baltimore game as a win. If the Browns lose to Pittsburgh at Home and on the road to Cincy and go into the bye at 1-3 I would be looking for buyers in a hurry if I owned DA.

The Browns' schedule is pretty tough too. They play the same schedule except the Steelers get the Pats & Chargers while the Browns get the Bills and Broncos. The Chargers & Broncos aren't as good as the Pats and Chargers but they aren't cakewalks either.I think this should be a very interesting year for the AFC North...

 

[KellysHeroes]

The Question is... what happens to DA after 08. Take a peek at the contract.

2/29/2008: Signed a three-year, $24 million contract. The deal contains $14.5 million in guarantees, including a $7 million signing bonus.

Another $1 million is available through incentives based on Pro Bowls and performance.

7 mil Signing Bonus

2008: $950,000

2009: $1.45 million (+ $5 million roster bonus),

2010: $7.45 million (+ $2 million roster bonus),

2011: Free Agent

The Brownies structured this in a Way for Qiunn to be the man next season. DA falls off... they can eaily cut him an not take a Big Cap hit.

Now if they Keep DA lights it up next season, his Salary Hit is huge... 6.45 Mil plus 1/3rd of 7 Mil comes close to 9 Mil.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

The Brownies tried to trade him in the off-season

He was not signed, so I don't see how they could trade him.

 

[KellysHeroes]

The Brownies tried to trade him in the off-season

He was not signed, so I don't see how they could trade him.

I would of liked to of seen the 49ers go after him....

 

[Tau837]

I'm not one of the search function police, but seriously there has been a lot of very good discussion on this over the past few months, so you should use the search function to find it. I know his player spotlight thread is one example, but there were others too.

You shouldn't have to drudge up month old posts to discuss the CURRENT thoughts of players. Especially when the news is everchanging. How is his concussion? How is Edwards foot? How did Quinn's sluggish performance with the first team increase or decrease your confidence in DA making it thru the season.

Whatever. If you don't want to read prior good discussion on this topic, that's your choice.

And if you chose to spend time twice posting in a thread you didn't want to exist, go right ahead.

I couldn't care less if the thread exists or not. I merely suggested you take advantage of all the previous discussion that exists on this topic. I'm sorry I bothered.

Not to insert myself in a conversation that I wasn't invited to, but this is a board that debates endlessly the virtues of almost every known player in the NFL even during the doggiest days of the off-season. I'm sure if I used the search function, I could find the most recent opinions on players of much less fantasy importance than Derek Anderson that have plenty of good information. I can understand if there is a post (or multiple posts) on Page 1-3 on a topic/player...but calling someone out for not using the search function... Should be optional...

Read my posts carefully. Did I say this thread should not have been created? No. Did I call someone out? No. I started out by saying I'm not one of the search function police specifically because I was not doing those things. I said there was a lot of good discussion on the topic in question, and the search function would reveal it. to the reading comprehension displayed in this thread.

I think you get branded the search function police because of posts like yours, not because you actually get a uniform, whistle and paycheck...To point out there is a player spotlight thread...I mean, there are like 150+ of these...why not just go into each post about a player and suggest they view the Player Spotlight?

Fine, you win. I'll never suggest that someone go find the exact discussion they are asking for again, even if I know it exists.

 

[Tau837]

I guess this question is two fold.

1/ How good is Anderson? Is he a legit top flight fantasy qb or will his weak play from the second half of last season carry over into 2008?

I think he's sort of a Kerry Collins/Eli Manning type of QB. Good enough to make some throws and keep you in games, but not really an ideal starting option. He had a great year for a first year starter, but in his case I believe it's more of a fluke than a sign of future greatness. He always had a big problem with turnovers in college and I think his accuracy and decision making will always be lackluster.

2/ Is there a realistic chance that Anderson will be replaced by Quinn? I have been told by some friends in the Cleveland area that the public wants to see Quinn as the qb.

I think so. The Browns are a trendy pick to win the division this year. If they stumble out of the gates and Anderson plays mediocre football, it will be hard to keep Quinn off the field. I think there's a good chance that he'll be starting by week 10.

I don't agree with you here, EBF. Eli has pulled himself up out of reach of the Kerry Collins and Derek Anderson's of the world and what he did last year, he should never have to hear the words "not really an ideal starting option."

You're saying you think Eli is an ideal starting option as a fantasy QB? He finished 14th and 11th the past 2 seasons (FBG scoring). So you think his playoff performance last year foreshadowed an improvement this year that will get him a higher finish? How high?

 

[jon_mx]

Dereck Anderson is dropping like a rock in drafts. He represents a great value pick. People are putting far too much weight on pre-season, IMHO. If you base projections on preseason, more often then naught you will be wrong. The Browns may have a tougher season this year, but Anderson will easily put up Top 10 QB numbers.

 

[Tau837]

I guess this question is two fold.

1/ How good is Anderson? Is he a legit top flight fantasy qb or will his weak play from the second half of last season carry over into 2008?

2/ Is there a realistic chance that Anderson will be replaced by Quinn? I have been told by some friends in the Cleveland area that the public wants to see Quinn as the qb.

Are there any Browns homers out there who can help with this question. In my eyes Anderson is a huge boom or bust candidate this year.

How do you project his numbers this year?

Thanks in advance.

The Browns have set their sights high this year. Quinn is not nearly developed enough to take them anywhere. Anderson is not a fluke. All that being said, I think the brutal schedule will do them in and Brady will see the field sometime this year. His numbers will be minimal.

Anderson is in fact, a fluke..his number tailed off significantly during the second half of the 2007 season, where he tossed nearly a 1:1 ratio of INT to TD. yuck.The Brownies tried to trade him in the off-season,tells you all you need to know about where they think he is right now..

he will not be starting by mid-season, the brutal Browns schedule will make this team start out 0-3, and they'll likely switch QB's at the bye week or soon after.

Anderson was QB3 through week 8 last year. He was QB9 from week 9 through the end of the regular season. Yes, his numbers dropped off, but he was still a solid starting fantasy QB unless you play in small leagues. He only had 2 bad games he started all season, and there were mitigating circumstances (weather) for both.