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What are the chances Derek Anderson loses his job? (1 Viewer)

DA has serious accuracy issues, he was at 56% last year with Braylon (and to a lesser extent) Winslow making circus catches, and JJ also has good hands. We are not likely to see Quinn for a while though since he's been so bad in preseason. I would say at least 6 games (barring DA injury) even if DA stinks, (not charlie frye bad, he won't be that poor) and throw in a couple of good games and his leash will get longer.
I think DA's accuracy issues can be accounted to three things. One, he is a gunslinger, the guy is not afraid to throw the ball downfield, which of course is going to result in a lower comp. %. Two, DA played in some bad weather at the end of the year. Especially the Bills game, where he was 9 for 24 in a blizzard, and his only game under 50% completion %. Three, and most importantly, inexperience, last year was DA's first year as a starter, it would be unreasonable to think he would not go through some growing pains. How many Int's did Manning throw his rookie year? Also, the circus catch thing is silly. DA put his WR's in a position to make plays, and they did. How many times did Moss come down in double coverage with a 60 yard TD pass from Brady on balls that should have never been thrown.
A. No one (so far) has said that Anderson can't improve, I said its something he needs to improve on.B. Jurevicius caught 62% in 2007, in 2006 he caught the same % despite playing through nagging injuries most of the season with Charlie Frye as his primary QB(he missed 3 games and started only 8 for a team that had Northcutt as its #3 WR). In Seattle he caught 65% of his targets, and its not like Hass is a monster at completing passes, his career 60.7% would put him 23rd on last years list (one spot behind Boller) and he was 15th himself last year. League average last year was 61.2%, counting all backups, WR throwing options, all bad weather games and David Carr's 136 attempts.
 
(Rotoworld) There are "rumblings" that Derek Anderson (concussion) is experiencing sensitivity to light, according to Profootballtalk.com.Analysis: This is a common aftereffect of a concussion, but he'll sit out the Browns' last exhibition and is reportedly only able to practice indoors. Anderson isn't a lock to face Dallas in Week 1 and should be monitored closely next week.
 
Anderson was QB3 through week 8 last year. He was QB9 from week 9 through the end of the regular season. Yes, his numbers dropped off, but he was still a solid starting fantasy QB unless you play in small leagues. He only had 2 bad games he started all season, and there were mitigating circumstances (weather) for both.
My BiL is a big Browns fan and he brings up the bad weather argument to defend Anderson all the time. I understand the weather was bad but unless they move the Browns indoors or to a warm climate isn't weather always going to be an issue in Cleveland?
 
Anderson was QB3 through week 8 last year. He was QB9 from week 9 through the end of the regular season. Yes, his numbers dropped off, but he was still a solid starting fantasy QB unless you play in small leagues. He only had 2 bad games he started all season, and there were mitigating circumstances (weather) for both.
My BiL is a big Browns fan and he brings up the bad weather argument to defend Anderson all the time. I understand the weather was bad but unless they move the Browns indoors or to a warm climate isn't weather always going to be an issue in Cleveland?
Most times, yes. Bear in mind that wind, not snow, is most detrimental. But, even so, the "mitigating circumstances" excuse is valid when evaluating the DA/Quinn question, especially when you add arm strength.
 
Anderson was QB3 through week 8 last year. He was QB9 from week 9 through the end of the regular season. Yes, his numbers dropped off, but he was still a solid starting fantasy QB unless you play in small leagues. He only had 2 bad games he started all season, and there were mitigating circumstances (weather) for both.
My BiL is a big Browns fan and he brings up the bad weather argument to defend Anderson all the time. I understand the weather was bad but unless they move the Browns indoors or to a warm climate isn't weather always going to be an issue in Cleveland?
Yes, of course, they will always have the potential for bad weather in Cleveland. However, the two bad fantasy games I was referring to were weeks 15 and 17. In week 15, it wasn't just bad weather, it was a whiteout; even in Cleveland, weather that bad is not a common occurrence. In week 17, out of the playoff hunt, they gave Quinn some playing time to see what he could do. Those are the mitigating circumstances I was referring to.Here is my Player Spotlight post on Anderson, which provides more detail:

I think far too much is made of Anderson's splits last season. Here some recent posts I made on Anderson:

Anderson was QB #3 through week 8 last season. And not all QBs had their bye by that time (Anderson did).

So the issue is whether or not his second half performance was (a) poor and (b) more representative of what to expect than his first 7 games. Let's look at his season after week 8 last year. Here are those 9 games:

9 SEA W 33-30 (OT) - 29/48 (60.4%) 364 (7.58 ypa) 0 TD 1 int - 18.3 fantasy points (FBG scoring)

10 @PIT L 31-28 - 16/35 (45.7%) 123 (3.51 ypa) 3 TD 0 int - 24.6

11 @BAL W 33-30 (OT) - 24/38 (63.2%) 274 (7.21 ypa) 0 TD 1 int - 17.9

12 HOU W 27-17 - 24/35 (68.6%) 253 (7.23 ypa) 2 TD 1 int - 22.6

13 @ARI L 27-21 - 21/41 (51.2%) 304 (7.42 ypa) 2 TD 2 int - 24.2

14 @NYJ W 24-18 - 16/29 (55.2%) 185 (6.38 ypa) 2 TD 1 int - 19.6

15 BUF W 8-0 - 9/24 (37.5%) 137 (5.71 ypa) 0 TD 0 int - 6.8

16 @CIN L 19-14 - 29/48 (60.4%) 251 (5.23 ypa) 2 TD 4 int - 17.2

17 SF W 20-7 - 11/20 (55.0%) 152 (7.60 ypa) 1 TD 1 int - 11.6

In week 9, Anderson led Cleveland to an OT win over Seattle. He led two TD drives in the 4th quarter, going 10/14 plus 1/2 on two point conversion throws. Anderson was 2/2 in OT and added a 10 yard run, as he led the drive for the winning FG. He threw for 364 yards but 0 TDs, with Lewis running in 4 TDs from the 1 or 2 yard line. Good game.

In week 10, Anderson threw 3 first half TDs, leading Cleveland to a 21-6 lead, but had a terrible second half. Good fantasy game, but not as good an NFL game.

In week 11, Anderson won at Baltimore, which was fighting for the playoffs. He led a short drive for the tying FG at the end of regulation, and led a short drive for the winning FG in OT, completing his last 6 passes in doing so. Good NFL game, but not a particularly good fantasy game.

In week 12, Anderson had 22.6 fantasy points (FBG scoring) in a win. Good game.

In week 13, Anderson had a bad game on the road, with 2 interceptions, including a pick 6, and a fumble. But he still scored 24.2 fantasy points. And consider this: on the last play of regulation, he completed a 37 yard pass to Winslow in the end zone, and Winslow was ruled out of bounds. It was controversial, with some thinking the forceout rule should have been applied. How different would Anderson's game look if he were 22/41 for 341 yards, 3 TDs, and 2 interceptions, and he had thrown the game winning TD?

In week 14, Anderson had 19.6 fantasy points (FBG scoring) in a win. Good game.

In week 15, Anderson had a poor game through no fault of his own. From the ESPN recap: "...in blizzard-like conditions better suited for the Iditarod sled-dog race... The snow began falling -- actually blowing sideways -- off Lake Erie about 1 1/2 hours before kickoff and by game time, Browns Stadium had been transformed into the world's largest snow globe... "It was like something on the Discovery Channel about the North Pole," said Bills rookie running back Marshawn Lynch, a Californian... With wind gusts up to 40 mph and visibility limited, throwing the ball was nearly impossible and both teams had to rely on their running games to move the ball. But even that was tough as players struggled to get traction on the slippery, snow-covered surface." Anderson had only 6.8 fantasy points. Again, he managed a win, as the Browns eliminated the Bills from playoff contention and kept themselves in the race.

In week 16, Anderson had 17.2 fantasy points, but had a bad game in a road loss, with 4 picks. However, note that weather was again a factor. From the ESPN recap: "With heavy winds affecting the passing and kicking games, Cincinnati was saved by its rushing game and Kenny Watson... Like Anderson, Carson Palmer also struggled with the gusting wind, going 11-of-21 for 115 yards with two interceptions and one touchdown. "I never really got a good sense of which way it was blowing," Palmer said. "It was really swirling. It was an ugly game, and a tough one to play in if you're trying to throw the football."" I wouldn't give him a free pass for 4 picks, but at least there was some mitigation. And he did have a shot at the end zone on the final play from 29 yards out that could have won the game.

In week 17, Anderson had only 11.6 fantasy points, but didn't have a bad game in a win. The Browns had the game in hand all day. Plus, Anderson had only 7 attempts in the first half, thanks to (1) two long returns by Cribbs, including a TD, and (2) Quinn played the final series of the half (and had 8 attempts in that series).

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Now, all that said, I'm not saying Anderson is Joe Montana. But I do think people tend to underrate his performance last season. Was any single player more instrumental in the Browns' unexpectedly good record? Heck, he threw for 3787/29 with an 82.5 QB rating in his first full season as a starter, and he is 24. :blackdot:

He only had 2 bad fantasy games all season in games he started, and there were mitigating factors for both. Now, that said, Quinn is obviously still around, and playing in Cleveland will expose him to potential poor weather games every year.

In those last 9 games, he was QB10, and Favre was one of those ahead of him and is obviously now retired. FBG's expert redraft ranking currently has him ranked as QB9, right in line with his performance over those final 9 games. His "poor" stretch last season was those 9 games, when he was QB10; he was QB3 in weeks 1-8... so his FBG ranking is essentially ignoring his upside, which he showed last season. And as far as I can tell, his situation has not worsened in any way.
If you look at yards allowed per game for Cleveland's opponents and remove Cleveland's games against them (i.e., their other 14 or 15 games only), Anderson exceeded their normal yards allowed in 12 of 16 games. Among the games he didn't were the week 15 whiteout game and when Quinn played in week 17.

If you look at TDs allowed per game for Cleveland's opponents and remove Cleveland's games against them (i.e., their other 14 or 15 games only), Anderson exceeded their normal TDs allowed in 10 of 16 games. Among the games he didn't were week 1, when he didn't play the entire game; the week 15 whiteout game; and when Quinn played in week 17.

I'm not sure how much it matters that he rang up big numbers against some weak opponents. The fact is that he regularly threw for more yards and TDs than his opponents typically allowed.
On the completion percentage, Anderson completed 57.5% of his passes on the season including all games but the whiteout game in week 15. Including that one game drops it to his full season total of 56.5%. Not that 57.5% is setting the world on fire, but it's more representative of his season IMO.
He had a very successful season as a first year starter. At this point, we can only imagine and speculate on how successful Quinn might be as a starting NFL QB. IMO Anderson actually has a reasonably long leash right now. Obviously, if he flops, Quinn will get a shot. I just don't see any reason to believe he will flop.
I expect Anderson to be better this year, with a year under his belt and a full offseason, training camp, and preseason as the incumbent starter. Plus, the Browns added Stallworth to an already talented corps of offensive players (Edwards, Winslow, Jurevicius, Lewis, and Harrison). I'm not saying I expect more yards and TDs, and in fact he may be hard pressed to actually duplicate last season's numbers. But I do expect him to force fewer throws, throw fewer interceptions, and improve his completion percentage.I'll project 307/520 (59%) for 3850 yards (7.4 ypa), 26 passing TDs, and 16 interceptions, along with 35/90/1 rushing
 
Good stuff. IMO he is a good, less expensive option at QB with the only real question being can he do it again. I think (but can't say for sure) most QBs who come off a good year like that and with the quality surrounding him that he has tend to do so.

"The people want Quinn" is IMO very much a non-factor - coaches do what they think will win the most games, not what the fans want - esp when it's for such brilliant reasons as being a "local boy." Even if Quinn looked great in pre-season, it'd be laughably stupid to start him over Anderson unless Anderson repeatedly and significantly regresses.

 
does he buy himself another week with this mediocre effort? They were lucky they played the Bengals with a 2nd string QB....

 

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