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Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
I'm in a meeting, but someone please compile overreactions and correct reactions from last year. This would be an amazing thing to do for everyone.
Warpig
Footballguy
I learned that once again my bench will ALWAYS outscore my starters...
as well as:
- Hoping that Larry Johnson carries me to the promised land may have been a mistake.
- The bargain basement LJ (Lamont Jordan) may be a steal this year!
- Bulger and that entire Rams O looked bad.
- Hard to accurately judge any skill players from the SD/CHI game. Those are probably the top two defenses in the league! I'll hold judgement for next week.
- Norv Turner is gonna drive me crazy as a Kaeding owner.
as well as:
- Hoping that Larry Johnson carries me to the promised land may have been a mistake.
- The bargain basement LJ (Lamont Jordan) may be a steal this year!
- Bulger and that entire Rams O looked bad.
- Hard to accurately judge any skill players from the SD/CHI game. Those are probably the top two defenses in the league! I'll hold judgement for next week.
- Norv Turner is gonna drive me crazy as a Kaeding owner.
jbalicki10
Footballguy
I learned not to panic after losing the first game. I should save my energy when I go 0-4.
GregR_2
Footballguy
Week 1 I learned that:
* It is good to move the charcoal-starting chimney further away from the grill until it cools down so you don't back into the sucker and burn your leg.
* Though regular tailgating games are fun, like the football-bean-bag toss game or the one with the vertical ladder of PVC pipe, a much better game is trying to throw ice down the cleavage of a well-endowed woman looking to cool down.
* That hot local news chicks will let your buddy on the air in exchange for a Texans hand towel.
* That when a woman named Kathy that you met tailgating tells you she's from Auto Insurance Discounters, it isn't because she's trying to sell you car insurance but because she does their TV commercials so she's THAT Kathy from Auto Insurance Discounters.
* That telling Kathy, "Geico has really good commercials" before realizing this fact, probably isn't what she wanted to hear.
* That it's possible to stop a fight that is about to break out, by inviting everyone to do keg stands.
* It is good to move the charcoal-starting chimney further away from the grill until it cools down so you don't back into the sucker and burn your leg.
* Though regular tailgating games are fun, like the football-bean-bag toss game or the one with the vertical ladder of PVC pipe, a much better game is trying to throw ice down the cleavage of a well-endowed woman looking to cool down.
* That hot local news chicks will let your buddy on the air in exchange for a Texans hand towel.
* That when a woman named Kathy that you met tailgating tells you she's from Auto Insurance Discounters, it isn't because she's trying to sell you car insurance but because she does their TV commercials so she's THAT Kathy from Auto Insurance Discounters.
* That telling Kathy, "Geico has really good commercials" before realizing this fact, probably isn't what she wanted to hear.
* That it's possible to stop a fight that is about to break out, by inviting everyone to do keg stands.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
Glad to see you've FINALLY come around and realize we weren't KC haters but we realized that they were not a good team.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
LHUCKS
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LHUCKS
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PsychoMan
Footballguy
That was the most exciting low scoring game evah!! What fun defenses to watch! Both defenses played great, but the Bears were absolutely lights out. I don't doubt they would have kept SD to less than a couple field goals if the offense (& special teams fumble) wouldn't have kept giving the ball back to SD in their own territory.The only thing preventing this defense from remaining completely sick is injuries to key players. Unfortunately, Mike Brown is already done for and that means the Bears D will play much worse without him. It happens every year. Mark it down!
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Okay, they should have taken Vince Young. But I think they'll be shown justified picking Mario over Reggie.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
I learned that even at 80 yrs old and coming off a knee injury A. Toomer can really play.
I also learned that the Dallas Cowboys are now on the clock!!!
I also learned that the Dallas Cowboys are now on the clock!!!
Blackjacks
Footballguy
Hey Andy not being a smart a## here but I know you haven't been a big Moss suppporter during the offseason. Did you get to watch the game? Did you see the old Moss out there?Okay, they should have taken Vince Young. But I think they'll be shown justified picking Mario over Reggie.
jurb26
Footballguy
What I've learned:
Clev does not have a QB or and the Oline is far from gelled. By the time the Oline does gel (if it ever happens) it will be too late in a tough division. They will greatly regret trading away that 1st to Dal.
Big Ben is back. He looked just as good in this game as he did all preseaon. Because of this, the Steelers are back.
Parker is a horrible 3rd down RB and still can't pass block to save his life. He is a liability on the field in such situations. Look for Davenport to see an increased role.
NE is as good as advertised. Moss is back. When the D is fully healthy this team should probably never loose a game.
Despite some preseason optimism, Atl and Harrington still suck. Minn D could become one of the dominant Ds of 2007.
I still stand by my prediction that Minn will finish 2nd in their division and be in the playoff hunt.
Chi is far and away the class of the NFC still. Sure they have some issues on offense, but they went into SD (the most talented team in the NFL according to most) and played hard and kept the game close. The D was smothering the 2006 #1 offense and league MVP. Had they not been on the field for 42 plays in the 2nd half I'm not sure SD ever would have moved the ball vs them.
Dal's D NEEDS Newman in a bad way. Manning looks liek a better QB this year.
NYG's D needs anyone who can actually cover in a bad way. Romo looks like the real deal, but still the Giants have awful pass coverage.
Tenn can run the ball, wow! Maybe Jack does not have the D we all expected.
Clev does not have a QB or and the Oline is far from gelled. By the time the Oline does gel (if it ever happens) it will be too late in a tough division. They will greatly regret trading away that 1st to Dal.
Big Ben is back. He looked just as good in this game as he did all preseaon. Because of this, the Steelers are back.
Parker is a horrible 3rd down RB and still can't pass block to save his life. He is a liability on the field in such situations. Look for Davenport to see an increased role.
NE is as good as advertised. Moss is back. When the D is fully healthy this team should probably never loose a game.
Despite some preseason optimism, Atl and Harrington still suck. Minn D could become one of the dominant Ds of 2007.
I still stand by my prediction that Minn will finish 2nd in their division and be in the playoff hunt.
Chi is far and away the class of the NFC still. Sure they have some issues on offense, but they went into SD (the most talented team in the NFL according to most) and played hard and kept the game close. The D was smothering the 2006 #1 offense and league MVP. Had they not been on the field for 42 plays in the 2nd half I'm not sure SD ever would have moved the ball vs them.
Dal's D NEEDS Newman in a bad way. Manning looks liek a better QB this year.
NYG's D needs anyone who can actually cover in a bad way. Romo looks like the real deal, but still the Giants have awful pass coverage.
Tenn can run the ball, wow! Maybe Jack does not have the D we all expected.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think I learned that I can coach in the NFL. If Romeo Crennel can, then so can I.
How do you take your starting QB out after 20 minutes? No matter how bad he played, you just don't do that.
How do you take your starting QB out after 20 minutes? No matter how bad he played, you just don't do that.
On The Rocks
Footballguy
KING said:
jurb26
Footballguy
Did you watch the game? I think most would have taken him out 10 mins earlier.
JerseyEagles
Footballguy
I learned that starting two upper level WR2s to cover the production of a WR1 stud can be mighty tricky. (See Branch & Evans)
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
You know, crow doesn't taste too bad if you salt it enough.I caught just the highlights. He still doesn't look like the explosive guy he was early in his career, but he certainly looks like a terrific fit for that offense.Hey Andy not being a smart a## here but I know you haven't been a big Moss suppporter during the offseason. Did you get to watch the game? Did you see the old Moss out there?Okay, they should have taken Vince Young. But I think they'll be shown justified picking Mario over Reggie.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
He was that bad, huh? If he was that bad, then he never should have been the starter in the first place.Quinn should be the starter. No matter how many lumps he takes, he seems to have the demeanor to handle it.
jurb26
Footballguy
Honestly, I can't recall even a single pass of his that was on target.
prymetyme25
Footballguy
I also learned that there are about 10 coaches that should not have a Job in the nfl!!! I'm seriously thinking about applying for the Miami job.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
He outran triple coverage on one play to score a long TD.
Pyramid Scheme
Footballguy
I think the Giants job will come open pretty soon.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I didn't see the play. Did he really outrun the coverage? Seems to me that he was running across the field and the coverage was blown.Regardless, yes, it appears that I was wrong about Randy Moss.
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Meat
Footballguy
In fact, great posting. The offense as a whole just looked better with him in the game, and the guy flat out looks like he runs "angry", very Stephen Jackson like, IMO. I'd just love to see what he could do with a full time gig there in Dallas.
FavreCo
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Wouldn't matter who the coach is. The o-line and WR corps are terrible, and the QB is mediocre at best. Not a good recipe for success.VERYIt's called being Herminated. 17 points beats KC.
FavreCo
Footballguy
It looked like the 3 defenders didn't think the ball was going to be thrown against them and Moss did. He didn't really outrun them, he ran thru them to get the ball. I would say the defenders all said a collective 'oh ####, Brady is throwing it to the corner'.
SYMPHONY X
Footballguy
-I learned that I under-estimated Eli to Burress in a big way...could be money all year if they both stay healthy.
-that the Chicago D is just absolutely ridiculous (which I guess we already knew)
-that Brandon Marshall may indeed be the monster that many were prediciting here
-The AFC is SICK man, just plain sick...Indy, NE, SD, Denver, PITTS (and BALT and CINCY tonight)...gonna be an absolute blood-bath between these teams, and I can't wait to watch!!!
-Tony Romo...missed out on him by ONE spot this year...ONE! Sun-of-a
-that rookie RB in Buffalo (Lynch) is better than I thought
-that I still love listening Chris Berman doing the Blitz with Tom Jackson...Woooop!
-that the Chicago D is just absolutely ridiculous (which I guess we already knew)
-that Brandon Marshall may indeed be the monster that many were prediciting here
-The AFC is SICK man, just plain sick...Indy, NE, SD, Denver, PITTS (and BALT and CINCY tonight)...gonna be an absolute blood-bath between these teams, and I can't wait to watch!!!
-Tony Romo...missed out on him by ONE spot this year...ONE! Sun-of-a
-that rookie RB in Buffalo (Lynch) is better than I thought
-that I still love listening Chris Berman doing the Blitz with Tom Jackson...Woooop!
jurb26
Footballguy
It was a zone coverage, with a CB at the LOS to jam Moss and slow him, force him inside to the LB who was also spying him and then to the Safety who was deep over the top. Moss beat the jam as if he was strolling through the park, quickly separated from the CB who was now in a trailing position by design, ran right past the LB and finally right past the S. All 3 can then be seen at the end of the play wondering how a washed up Moss who lost a step beat them so badly and made it look like he was only going half speed while doing it. I know I pimp Moss a lot, but I really don't see how you can watch something like this and not be impressed. For those of you who say "well Brady had all day to throw." Well, yes no kidding. When you bring in 3 TEs and max protect with a one player pass route you are going to have all day. You can only do such plays if you have a WR who can in turn beat double or triple coverage however. NE now has that. Very scary.
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sholditch
Footballguy
I learned:
Benson can move the pile but not much else, but am reserving judgment until week 2.
Curry is the value WR
Derrick Ward is a decent runner and could emerge in NYG
Only a matter or time before Barber gets majority of carries
David Boston and Matt Jones were wasted draft picks
Caddy will never be a successful NFL RB
Neither will Brown
Eli is looking much better
Ben is as well
ADP is the starter from now on and should be started in basically all situations
LenDale is not as bad as I thought
Dallas DST is absolutely worthless this year
Garrard will make it as a starter but won't be a huge fantasy contributor
MJD is going to be the bust of the first two rounds
Benson can move the pile but not much else, but am reserving judgment until week 2.
Curry is the value WR
Derrick Ward is a decent runner and could emerge in NYG
Only a matter or time before Barber gets majority of carries
David Boston and Matt Jones were wasted draft picks
Caddy will never be a successful NFL RB
Neither will Brown
Eli is looking much better
Ben is as well
ADP is the starter from now on and should be started in basically all situations
LenDale is not as bad as I thought
Dallas DST is absolutely worthless this year
Garrard will make it as a starter but won't be a huge fantasy contributor
MJD is going to be the bust of the first two rounds
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
What was most impressive to me was how FAR Brady threw that ball. What a heave. And right on the money too. He's an amazing quarterback.
Morton Muffley
Footballguy
I've been a big Marion Barber fan for some time and argued vehemntly all last year that he was a better RB than JJ...having said that, I HATED what he did on that 4th and 1 TD run. He HAS to go upfield to secure the 1st down...that must be his 1st prority. Instead he bumped it outside and on two occassions nearly lost an opp at the 1st down. And please don't give me that crap about "well, he scored a 19yd TD on the play, so clearly it was the right decision". No, it was most definitely NOT the right decision. Sometimes a player does the right thing and it doesn't work out and sometime he does the wrong thing and it does. The biggest mistake people make it looking at the result and not the decision. This one was a bad decision on MBIII's part.But he's still a better runner than JJ.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
i am not a fan of either team but i almost feel sorry for the Chiefs offense this upcoming week. if they scored 3 points againts the Texans, what happens @ Chicago? yikes..
Pyramid Scheme
Footballguy
I've been a big Marion Barber fan for some time and argued vehemntly all last year that he was a better RB than JJ...having said that, I HATED what he did on that 4th and 1 TD run. He HAS to go upfield to secure the 1st down...that must be his 1st prority. Instead he bumped it outside and on two occassions nearly lost an opp at the 1st down. And please don't give me that crap about "well, he scored a 19yd TD on the play, so clearly it was the right decision". No, it was most definitely NOT the right decision. Sometimes a player does the right thing and it doesn't work out and sometime he does the wrong thing and it does. The biggest mistake people make it looking at the result and not the decision. This one was a bad decision on MBIII's part.But he's still a better runner than JJ.In fact, great posting. The offense as a whole just looked better with him in the game, and the guy flat out looks like he runs "angry", very Stephen Jackson like, IMO. I'd just love to see what he could do with a full time gig there in Dallas.
I learned that the merits of Brian Brohm at 2008 #1 money vs Quinn at 2007 #22 money + a 2nd round player is going to be heavily debated next offseason.
On The Rocks
Footballguy
Of all the "over reactionary" posts in this thread I think I learned this one wins the contest.I learnedallas DST is absolutely worthless this yearMJD is going to be the bust of the first two rounds
SYMPHONY X
Footballguy
You and me both brother...you and me both. I was gonna go "old school" and pair up Randy with T.O. this year...but went the safe route and grabbed Houshmanzilla. Will be regretting that one for a while if Randy M. keeps this up all year!
SYMPHONY X
Footballguy
GordonGekko said:
Moss has a way of being explosive without looking exlosive. He looks like he is in a casual jog but the dbs are never able to catch up. He seems to be a great fit with the NE offense. Welker gets a lot of short catches and it seems like the Pats have introduced Moss to the area of the field between the hashes. If he runs routes across the middle of the feild he will have a great year.
I'm a Pats homer, and I don't think Moss is on the level that he once was.The old Moss would have scored on 2 other pass plays (one down the sideline, and one he took over the middle); the old Moss would have had 4 TDs yesterday.Still, this Moss is better than anything Brady's ever had to work with. Maybe he's only 90% of the freakish talent he once was, that's still good enough to make an impact.And, as far as that triple coverage... those 3 defenders were in a state of confusion, they looked like the Keystone Cops. Moss didn't really "run by" all of them, Moss ran deep, Brady had all day, and Moss just cut across the field on them.His strides are fluid.His hands are amazing.And he's still really tall and can jump.I just don't think he has that extra, final gear he once had.
Meat
Footballguy
Morton Muffley said:I've been a big Marion Barber fan for some time and argued vehemntly all last year that he was a better RB than JJ...having said that, I HATED what he did on that 4th and 1 TD run. He HAS to go upfield to secure the 1st down...that must be his 1st prority. Instead he bumped it outside and on two occassions nearly lost an opp at the 1st down. And please don't give me that crap about "well, he scored a 19yd TD on the play, so clearly it was the right decision". No, it was most definitely NOT the right decision. Sometimes a player does the right thing and it doesn't work out and sometime he does the wrong thing and it does. The biggest mistake people make it looking at the result and not the decision. This one was a bad decision on MBIII's part.But he's still a better runner than JJ.Meat said:Pnishthm said:
I was screaming at my TV when I saw that, absolutely the wrong decision in that situation.
Brides Maids
Footballguy
D McNabb and Reggie Brown need to get back on the same page!!!!
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Normally I start these threads every week, but I was waiting till after tonight's game. Rounders jumped in and this thread is off and running. I love this thread every week. So, I'll go with mine...
- I learned this last year but it was proven again yesterday. Never start a WR against Champ Bailey. I expect huge things out of Lee Evans this year. what did he have yesterday, 5 yards?
- The Rams weren't really clicking on offense when Pace was in there. With him gone, this is going to be a LONG season for the Rams.
- I've learned that what happens in preseason in no way correlates to the regular season. Brees was 35-39 and a TD in preseason. In the first game against a pretty soft Indy D he looked more like Charlie Frye than preseason Drew Brees.
- Same thing goes for Marshawn Lynch. Horrible in preseason. Runs all over the Denver D.
- Is the Indy D good? Have they built on the playoff run where they were world beaters? Maybe.
- Tennessee started off 2006 0-5 and then went 8-3. Looks like they plan on keeping up the pace of the latter. The Titans have rock solid Run D. They contained MJD and Fred extremely well
- I've learned that arguing vehemently about which 2nd year backup RB is going to the HOF by their 3rd year is pretty pointless. I fell on the MJD side of the debate. Blackjacks and others on the Bush side. What did we get? MJD had 60 total yards. Bush had like 45. Trying to think what the debate was all about again.
- I learned this last year but it was reaffirmed this year. Addai is either good or average in a great situation. I don't care. What I do care about is his solid production every week.
- The AFC is Freakishly good. Indy, Pitt, and NE all put on clinics. San Diego won against a TOUGH Chicago D. Cinci and Baltimore still to go tonight.
- I think Regime change has just as much to do with Big Ben's fantasy production as him being healthy. Under Cowher I likened him to Troy Aikman - Awesome NFL QB, horrible Fantasy QB. New regime and Big Ben gets to air it out more. Ben, Ward, Holmes and Miller are all going to have great seasons.
One more thing - Don't lose your minds in either direction on any player after week 1 unless we're talking about a major injury. It's just week 1. Brees will bounce back. MJD and Bush will have good games. The Indy D will give up some big plays. LT will get 100 yards a few times this year, etc.
More to come after tonight's games
- I learned this last year but it was proven again yesterday. Never start a WR against Champ Bailey. I expect huge things out of Lee Evans this year. what did he have yesterday, 5 yards?
- The Rams weren't really clicking on offense when Pace was in there. With him gone, this is going to be a LONG season for the Rams.
- I've learned that what happens in preseason in no way correlates to the regular season. Brees was 35-39 and a TD in preseason. In the first game against a pretty soft Indy D he looked more like Charlie Frye than preseason Drew Brees.
- Same thing goes for Marshawn Lynch. Horrible in preseason. Runs all over the Denver D.
- Is the Indy D good? Have they built on the playoff run where they were world beaters? Maybe.
- Tennessee started off 2006 0-5 and then went 8-3. Looks like they plan on keeping up the pace of the latter. The Titans have rock solid Run D. They contained MJD and Fred extremely well
- I've learned that arguing vehemently about which 2nd year backup RB is going to the HOF by their 3rd year is pretty pointless. I fell on the MJD side of the debate. Blackjacks and others on the Bush side. What did we get? MJD had 60 total yards. Bush had like 45. Trying to think what the debate was all about again.
- I learned this last year but it was reaffirmed this year. Addai is either good or average in a great situation. I don't care. What I do care about is his solid production every week.
- The AFC is Freakishly good. Indy, Pitt, and NE all put on clinics. San Diego won against a TOUGH Chicago D. Cinci and Baltimore still to go tonight.
- I think Regime change has just as much to do with Big Ben's fantasy production as him being healthy. Under Cowher I likened him to Troy Aikman - Awesome NFL QB, horrible Fantasy QB. New regime and Big Ben gets to air it out more. Ben, Ward, Holmes and Miller are all going to have great seasons.
One more thing - Don't lose your minds in either direction on any player after week 1 unless we're talking about a major injury. It's just week 1. Brees will bounce back. MJD and Bush will have good games. The Indy D will give up some big plays. LT will get 100 yards a few times this year, etc.
More to come after tonight's games
sholditch
Footballguy
I thought MJD would be a bust all offseason. So that's not reactionary.The Dallas DST is but what else can you say about a defense that gives up 40-something points to a middle-of-the-road team after they lose their starting RB. People will rip apart that secondary all year.On The Rocks said:Of all the "over reactionary" posts in this thread I think I learned this one wins the contest.sholditch said:I learned
Pyramid Scheme
Footballguy
He doesn't, but he's a big part of a personnel group that complement one another extremely well. I pity the defensive coordinators who are going to have to find a way to stop the run, keep Welker from catching the ball at will, stop Randy Moss from beating them deep, and keep one eye out for Stallworth all at the same time. Obviously it's only one game, but the Pats on offense look to have an answer for just about anything you want to try against them.TD Ryan said:
Dulymus Mudhounds
Footballguy
I learned that Jason Witten is going to be good, really good this year. Especially if Terry Glenn is out for an extended period of time. Romo looked to him a lot last night. Given it was the Giants D, but Witten will be atop 3 TE this year IMO.
Mud
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