What do you do? - driving question (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

Turning right on red should be illegal. Very rarely do people come to a full stop anyway.

Wut?

There are a fair amount of places around here that have no turn on red signs. It is kind of nice to not have to worry about it.

Unless it's obviously dangerous right turn (limited view left, high speed road) then there's no reason no to allow right turn on red.

 

[cstu]

How big of a hurry am I in?

This matters? Maybe I just have a problem (so surprise to all of you) and have to get where I'm going as quickly as possible.

 

[cstu]

I said stay in left lane, because you don't add info about right turn on red or separate lane for right turn. Blocking people from making a right turn is kinda obnoxious; especially in situation #1.

This.

Luckily most of the streets in Los Angeles have separate lanes to drive right in. Definitely a doosh move to go into the right lane if you would potentially be blocking someone turning right.

 

[JaxBill]

Any indication how fast the car in left lane is? If a minivan, cream colored Caddy, or PT Cruiser, I'm jumping in the right lane.

If there are TWO cars in left lane and none in right, I'm going right lane no question.

 

[Fat Nick]

I would always be in the right lane unless passing.

This is the correct answer. You should've already been in the right lane. You weren't passing anyone, and the cars behind you are far enough back that you could've changed lanes a while ago most likley.

Re. the right turn thing...I'll move to the left if the car behind me puts his right turn signal on and it's otherwise very clear and I can move so he can turn, but I consider that a courtesy, not something I have to do.

 

[Mr. Ected]

I would always be in the right lane unless passing.

This is the correct answer. You should've already been in the right lane. You weren't passing anyone, and the cars behind you are far enough back that you could've changed lanes a while ago most likley.

Re. the right turn thing...I'll move to the left if the car behind me puts his right turn signal on and it's otherwise very clear and I can move so he can turn, but I consider that a courtesy, not something I have to do.

Even if you are riding in the right lane you should have to slide left at the light for those making a right turn.

I would venture to say that those OK with themselves being in the right lane are going to be the first laying on their horn when the situation is reversed, and they come up on a dude in the right lane on a long light and they need to make a turn.

 

[Fat Nick]

I would always be in the right lane unless passing.

This is the correct answer. You should've already been in the right lane. You weren't passing anyone, and the cars behind you are far enough back that you could've changed lanes a while ago most likley.

Re. the right turn thing...I'll move to the left if the car behind me puts his right turn signal on and it's otherwise very clear and I can move so he can turn, but I consider that a courtesy, not something I have to do.

Even if you are riding in the right lane you should have to slide left at the light for those making a right turn.

I would venture to say that those OK with themselves being in the right lane are going to be the first laying on their horn when the situation is reversed, and they come up on a dude in the right lane on a long light and they need to make a turn.

I wouldn't dream of honking at someone in the right lane of a straight/right turn combo lane if they were going straight and I wanted to turn right. They have just as much of a right to be there as anyone else. As I said, moving over is a courtesy if I KNOW the guy right behind me wants to turn. No way am I backing myself behind another car in the left lane for a guy who may or may not be turning right. I have just as much of a right to be in that lane as anyone...in fact, I'd still argue that you SHOULD be in the right lane in that situation. Left lane is for passing. Period. The right lane is for turning or going straight, and I'm going straight.

Would people really do that? HONK at someone going straight, just because they were behind them wanting to turn right when the lane is for both? I can be an ### driver, but that just seems excessive.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I try to stay in the left lane if i know I am going straight for awhile so that those needing to go right can make the right turn on red.

And I like being able to turn right on red so it is nice if others do the same.

But I also know that some people may need to turn right very shortly after the intersection so there is a need for them to be in the right lane even though they are going straight.

I'm not sure "being in a hurry" is a good enough reason to move into the right lane and possibly prevent others from turning right on red in the situation presented above. None of us are more important than the rest even though many FBG think so. If you are in a hurry and if you stay in the left lane, you will probably be able to slide to the right and pass the car in front of you very quickly after the intersection, as some of the cars in that lane will have turned right and left some gaps.

Most of us follow a lot of the same routes everyday, so you know where these sitautions present themselves and if more and more people make the right "play" many of us will get where we need to be maybe a whole 2 minutes earlier or something, and that makes everybody happy.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

wow....interesting that 4 WHOLE cars make a such a difference in the second part of the poll......bunch of d-bags up in here....

 

[GregR]

Yeah, I don't know exactly where the "right" spot is to start filling in. If, say, 15 stopped cars in one lane can make it through the intersection in one green light cycle, then obviously it doesn't make sense to have a 16th car in line and a right lane completely open. So somewhere between 2nd in line and "won't make the light" in line.

 

[GregR]

Whatever gets the most people through the intersection quickly and to their destination and off the roads makes for a quicker trip for me if everyone does the same.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

the only real issue I can see with staying in the "left lane" is that you have to balance it out with where the "left TURN lane" begins.....because depending on where you are at, by trying to allow people the opportunity to turn right, you could actually be preventing people from being able to turn left.....it is also frustrating when you are wanting to turn left and the cars in the left lane going straight prevent you from being able to get into the left turn lane....

 

[Despyzer]

Any indication how fast the car in left lane is? If a minivan, cream colored Caddy, or PT Cruiser, I'm jumping in the right lane.

Around these parts, the most aggressive drivers are frequently behind the wheels of minivans.

 

[nirad3]

Right lane always because I accelerate faster than everyone.

 

[gianmarco]

I would always be in the right lane unless passing.

This is the correct answer. You should've already been in the right lane. You weren't passing anyone, and the cars behind you are far enough back that you could've changed lanes a while ago most likley.

Re. the right turn thing...I'll move to the left if the car behind me puts his right turn signal on and it's otherwise very clear and I can move so he can turn, but I consider that a courtesy, not something I have to do.

Even if you are riding in the right lane you should have to slide left at the light for those making a right turn.

I would venture to say that those OK with themselves being in the right lane are going to be the first laying on their horn when the situation is reversed, and they come up on a dude in the right lane on a long light and they need to make a turn.

I wouldn't dream of honking at someone in the right lane of a straight/right turn combo lane if they were going straight and I wanted to turn right. They have just as much of a right to be there as anyone else. As I said, moving over is a courtesy if I KNOW the guy right behind me wants to turn. No way am I backing myself behind another car in the left lane for a guy who may or may not be turning right. I have just as much of a right to be in that lane as anyone...in fact, I'd still argue that you SHOULD be in the right lane in that situation. Left lane is for passing. Period. The right lane is for turning or going straight, and I'm going straight.

Would people really do that? HONK at someone going straight, just because they were behind them wanting to turn right when the lane is for both? I can be an ### driver, but that just seems excessive.

This is where I am. I can get very inpatient when driving and it sucks when you get behind one car going straight and you want to turn right but I actually don't ever blame them when it's a simple 2 lane highway. It's just how it is and I wait. Similarly, I don't think twice about occupying that right lane if there's even 1 car in the left. As stated above, if I see a car behind me with their right turn signal on, then I'll move over for sure. Otherwise, I'm keeping pole position because I typically accelerate faster than others at lights.

What drives me nuts are cars that are in the right lane that see me pull up with a right turn signal on and there would be enough room for me to turn if they only move up a small amount or even just a little left and see me sitting there at the corner of their bumper. I will put the horn down for those until they move although I usually give a bit of time to see if they notice me. But, once eye contact is made in their rear view and they don't move, they're hearing it until they move or the light turns green.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I would always be in the right lane unless passing.

This is the correct answer. You should've already been in the right lane. You weren't passing anyone, and the cars behind you are far enough back that you could've changed lanes a while ago most likley.

Re. the right turn thing...I'll move to the left if the car behind me puts his right turn signal on and it's otherwise very clear and I can move so he can turn, but I consider that a courtesy, not something I have to do.

Even if you are riding in the right lane you should have to slide left at the light for those making a right turn.I would venture to say that those OK with themselves being in the right lane are going to be the first laying on their horn when the situation is reversed, and they come up on a dude in the right lane on a long light and they need to make a turn.

I wouldn't dream of honking at someone in the right lane of a straight/right turn combo lane if they were going straight and I wanted to turn right. They have just as much of a right to be there as anyone else. As I said, moving over is a courtesy if I KNOW the guy right behind me wants to turn. No way am I backing myself behind another car in the left lane for a guy who may or may not be turning right. I have just as much of a right to be in that lane as anyone...in fact, I'd still argue that you SHOULD be in the right lane in that situation. Left lane is for passing. Period. The right lane is for turning or going straight, and I'm going straight.

Would people really do that? HONK at someone going straight, just because they were behind them wanting to turn right when the lane is for both? I can be an ### driver, but that just seems excessive.

This is where I am. I can get very inpatient when driving and it sucks when you get behind one car going straight and you want to turn right but I actually don't ever blame them when it's a simple 2 lane highway. It's just how it is and I wait. Similarly, I don't think twice about occupying that right lane if there's even 1 car in the left. As stated above, if I see a car behind me with their right turn signal on, then I'll move over for sure. Otherwise, I'm keeping pole position because I typically accelerate faster than others at lights.

What drives me nuts are cars that are in the right lane that see me pull up with a right turn signal on and there would be enough room for me to turn if they only move up a small amount or even just a little left and see me sitting there at the corner of their bumper. I will put the horn down for those until they move although I usually give a bit of time to see if they notice me. But, once eye contact is made in their rear view and they don't move, they're hearing it until they move or the light turns green.

you realize the move you want to make in the last paragraph is illegal right....?

 

[SWC]

so a buddy of mine told me once that if you speed a drive like a laroosh you only get there maybe a minute or two earlier so what is the point anyhow and hey a true bromurai warrior like myself knows that the party does not even start until i show up so hey just be cool bromigos take that to the bank

 

[sbonomo]

Any indication how fast the car in left lane is? If a minivan, cream colored Caddy, or PT Cruiser, I'm jumping in the right lane.

Around these parts, the most aggressive drivers are frequently behind the wheels of minivans.

Utah?

 

[GregR]

Any indication how fast the car in left lane is? If a minivan, cream colored Caddy, or PT Cruiser, I'm jumping in the right lane.

Around these parts, the most aggressive drivers are frequently behind the wheels of minivans.

Utah?

Japan.

 

[whiskey7]

so a buddy of mine told me once that if you speed a drive like a laroosh you only get there maybe a minute or two earlier so what is the point anyhow and hey a true bromurai warrior like myself knows that the party does not even start until i show up so hey just be cool bromigos take that to the bank

well done

 

[Fat Nick]

so a buddy of mine told me once that if you speed a drive like a laroosh you only get there maybe a minute or two earlier so what is the point anyhow and hey a true bromurai warrior like myself knows that the party does not even start until i show up so hey just be cool bromigos take that to the bank

It honestly depends on how long the drive is. My commute is 1 hour, and about 45 miles. I speed and know which lane to be in where the traffic is. I will admit that the latter is MUCH more important in the morning traffic. By just knowing what lane to be in, I probably cut 5 minutes off my commute. Speeding cuts another 5 off...10 minutes isn't much, but if you figure 10 minutes each way x 5 commutes a week, that's an extra hour and a half or so I get to my week. Over the course of a year, that's an extra 3 days or so...

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Turning right on red should be illegal. Very rarely do people come to a full stop anyway.

Wut?

There are a fair amount of places around here that have no turn on red signs. It is kind of nice to not have to worry about it.

In places where there are not these signs -- Why does it make you worry?

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

This thread is going to be awesome.

it will be a subtle inquiry into the human condition.

 

[Fat Nick]

This thread is going to be awesome.

it will be a subtle inquiry into the human condition.

All driving threads in the FFA prove why driving in general in the US is so screwed up. Everyone has their own interpretation of the rules, and everyone thinks they are entitled in some sense. Myself included. The fact that we have so many interpretations of a concept as simple as "drive right, pass left," is the reason why that concept doesn't work here.

Go drive in Europe and see if you get the concept of "drive right, pass left." If you don't, someone will flash you and let you know you're in the way, but here in the land of the entitled, the person flashing is the ###hole. I spent a week driving around Ireland...It was the most relaxed I've ever been in medium-heavy traffic because people just did what they were supposed to do. It wasn't a competition to see who could get there first. If someone was going faster than you, you just let them go.

Give it a few more years without any enforcing of these more subtle laws (left-lane driving, no turn signals, not yielding when merging, etc), and we might as well just have "Free-for-all" driving rules like in some South American or Asian countries where lines are optional. Police spend too much time focusing on speeders, when there are a lot of other actions that are actually far worse for traffic flow.

 

[lod01]

Successfully switched lanes on question #1 on the way home for lunch..

 

[larch]

What drives me nuts are cars that are in the right lane that see me pull up with a right turn signal on and there would be enough room for me to turn if they only move up a small amount or even just a little left and see me sitting there at the corner of their bumper. I will put the horn down for those until they move although I usually give a bit of time to see if they notice me. But, once eye contact is made in their rear view and they don't move, they're hearing it until they move or the light turns green.

I would move up and to the right just to piss you off.

 

[SWC]

so a buddy of mine told me once that if you speed a drive like a laroosh you only get there maybe a minute or two earlier so what is the point anyhow and hey a true bromurai warrior like myself knows that the party does not even start until i show up so hey just be cool bromigos take that to the bank

It honestly depends on how long the drive is. My commute is 1 hour, and about 45 miles. I speed and know which lane to be in where the traffic is. I will admit that the latter is MUCH more important in the morning traffic. By just knowing what lane to be in, I probably cut 5 minutes off my commute. Speeding cuts another 5 off...10 minutes isn't much, but if you figure 10 minutes each way x 5 commutes a week, that's an extra hour and a half or so I get to my week. Over the course of a year, that's an extra 3 days or so...

yeah math and whatever but honest none of us are racing around because in the three days a year we save we were going to cure cancer here is what probably happens you rush like hell to get in to work get all mad do something you regret maybe risk hurting yourself or even worse someone else and when you arrive that whole 5 minutes earlier you screw off in that time and play on the internet or take an extra long numero dos in the can listen i do the same thing i am not saying you specifically but what i am saying is it is not worth it just be a brohan and chill out it is a better way to live take that to the bank

 

[Fat Nick]

so a buddy of mine told me once that if you speed a drive like a laroosh you only get there maybe a minute or two earlier so what is the point anyhow and hey a true bromurai warrior like myself knows that the party does not even start until i show up so hey just be cool bromigos take that to the bank

It honestly depends on how long the drive is. My commute is 1 hour, and about 45 miles. I speed and know which lane to be in where the traffic is. I will admit that the latter is MUCH more important in the morning traffic. By just knowing what lane to be in, I probably cut 5 minutes off my commute. Speeding cuts another 5 off...10 minutes isn't much, but if you figure 10 minutes each way x 5 commutes a week, that's an extra hour and a half or so I get to my week. Over the course of a year, that's an extra 3 days or so...

yeah math and whatever but honest none of us are racing around because in the three days a year we save we were going to cure cancer here is what probably happens you rush like hell to get in to work get all mad do something you regret maybe risk hurting yourself or even worse someone else and when you arrive that whole 5 minutes earlier you screw off in that time and play on the internet or take an extra long numero dos in the can listen i do the same thing i am not saying you specifically but what i am saying is it is not worth it just be a brohan and chill out it is a better way to live take that to the bank

You severely underestimate the value of an extra long numero dos bromigo.

 

[SWC]

so a buddy of mine told me once that if you speed a drive like a laroosh you only get there maybe a minute or two earlier so what is the point anyhow and hey a true bromurai warrior like myself knows that the party does not even start until i show up so hey just be cool bromigos take that to the bank

It honestly depends on how long the drive is. My commute is 1 hour, and about 45 miles. I speed and know which lane to be in where the traffic is. I will admit that the latter is MUCH more important in the morning traffic. By just knowing what lane to be in, I probably cut 5 minutes off my commute. Speeding cuts another 5 off...10 minutes isn't much, but if you figure 10 minutes each way x 5 commutes a week, that's an extra hour and a half or so I get to my week. Over the course of a year, that's an extra 3 days or so...

yeah math and whatever but honest none of us are racing around because in the three days a year we save we were going to cure cancer here is what probably happens you rush like hell to get in to work get all mad do something you regret maybe risk hurting yourself or even worse someone else and when you arrive that whole 5 minutes earlier you screw off in that time and play on the internet or take an extra long numero dos in the can listen i do the same thing i am not saying you specifically but what i am saying is it is not worth it just be a brohan and chill out it is a better way to live take that to the bank

You severely underestimate the value of an extra long numero dos bromigo.

hey around here the place you do that is no place you want to stay around very long i am not living up in an ivory crapper like a lot of you rich guys around here sadly but hey if i had a nice throne you bet your bottom dollar i would want to sit on it take that to the bank

 

[Sweet J]

Turning right on red should be illegal. Very rarely do people come to a full stop anyway.

Wut?

There are a fair amount of places around here that have no turn on red signs. It is kind of nice to not have to worry about it.

I can BARELY get behind the rule that says I can't go through a stoplight even though I can damn-well see that there is nobody coming for miles around. No way I'll give my right-on-red.

 

[5Rings]

I said stay in left lane, because you don't add info about right turn on red or separate lane for right turn. Blocking people from making a right turn is kinda obnoxious; especially in situation #1.

Other information needed--and to me this is the most important--how is the person in front of you driving?