gkza
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He has been VERY good for several seasons. I think he is one of the best DBs in the league. Who hasnt heard of him by now?
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What have we learned after week 3? (1 Viewer)
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switz
Footballguy
J Addai is a better GL RB than Edge, and Manning is now passing less at the GL than he used to because of that. People need to give credit where it's due.
duaneok66
Footballguy
Westbrook has been better . . .
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
They're not quite the elite wideouts that you mentioned, but how wbout Javon Walker and Hines Ward laying a gigantic egg this sunday? It almost cost me a win this week.
zamboni
Footballguy
When Michael Jenkins is the one to have a big game next time, you'll probably be right.
Tubalcane
Footballguy
The Broncos own the Patriots. As far as the Broncos not being that good, I'd say it's more of a work in progress. They have so many new players on offense and Defence. They need time to gel. And Jim Bates needs to seriously think about trying to stop the run now and then. That's killing them more than anything else. The Broncos really miss Al Wilson.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I learned the Packers are going to be fun to watch.
I learned Cutler's arm strength has been way over-reported. I mean he wound up and threw his bomb with all his might and Marshall had to stop and wait for it and it only went 50 yards. 38 year old Favre still has more arm.
I learned that the Cowboy game must have been meaningless for the Bears. After all Grossman is awesome except in meaningless games. At least that's what Bears fans assured us last year.
The Patriots Wilfolk will be on dirty player watch even though he ultimately may have helped out the Bills.
Atlanta's recievers are better than Vick made them look.
I learned Cutler's arm strength has been way over-reported. I mean he wound up and threw his bomb with all his might and Marshall had to stop and wait for it and it only went 50 yards. 38 year old Favre still has more arm.
I learned that the Cowboy game must have been meaningless for the Bears. After all Grossman is awesome except in meaningless games. At least that's what Bears fans assured us last year.
The Patriots Wilfolk will be on dirty player watch even though he ultimately may have helped out the Bills.
Atlanta's recievers are better than Vick made them look.
FavreCo
Footballguy
That just picking the 2006 top scorers in a redraft league will get you losses. You have to do research. Case in point MJD and LJ. LT is a must and will be fine. Don't expect the 30 TD's hope for 20 at best.
Also, we are back to 1995-1996 when the football was flying and points were put up thru the air.
Also, we are back to 1995-1996 when the football was flying and points were put up thru the air.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
I learned there's no team worse than Oakland defending a lead in the last few minutes of a game. #######.
Pittsburgh United
Footballguy
I won't quote the original post, but let me say it's excellent!
I will add:
TO is not only a complete beast on the field, but is now apparently a model teammate. Funny what success and a well-planned offensive scheme will do for the guy.
Randy Moss is the real deal and should've been selected in the early-mid 2nd rounds of most leagues (slipped to the late 5th in my redraft
). If he can stay healthy all year (no reason to think he can't), he could be the top WR.
The St. Louis Rams are the worst team on the field this year.
Speaking of squandering talent: The cloud of discontent hanging over San Diego is thick enough to cut with a knife. I would hate to be a Bolts fan.
The Patriots look unbeatable, as many thought they would be after putting together this team. However, as noted above, watch out for the Steelers!
Once again, the Rooneys prove they know what they're doing when hiring coaches. Here's to a fruitful next 20 years of the Mike Tomlin era!
I will add:
TO is not only a complete beast on the field, but is now apparently a model teammate. Funny what success and a well-planned offensive scheme will do for the guy.
Randy Moss is the real deal and should've been selected in the early-mid 2nd rounds of most leagues (slipped to the late 5th in my redraft
). If he can stay healthy all year (no reason to think he can't), he could be the top WR.The St. Louis Rams are the worst team on the field this year.
Speaking of squandering talent: The cloud of discontent hanging over San Diego is thick enough to cut with a knife. I would hate to be a Bolts fan.
The Patriots look unbeatable, as many thought they would be after putting together this team. However, as noted above, watch out for the Steelers!
Once again, the Rooneys prove they know what they're doing when hiring coaches. Here's to a fruitful next 20 years of the Mike Tomlin era!
Pittsburgh United
Footballguy
Let me also add, in the words of Denny Green: The NFC is worse than we thought they were! What a bad conference. Is there any doubt that an AFC team will win this year's Superbowl?
LILB811
Footballguy
There. Fixed.And as for the Bengals, you're supposed to go for 2 in that situation. If you go for the XP and go up 5, and then the other team scores a TD, the other team will go for 2. The other team isn't going to just kick the XP and settle for a 2 point lead. I thought that would be pretty obvious.
Things I learned (and sort of knew)
- When a guy wants the ball, give him the ball (Ronnie Brown, Steven Jackson, Vernon Davis).
- Peterson is most definitely for real. First guy in 23 games to rush for 100+ against the Chiefs. I feel guilty for taking 3 games to acknowledge this.
- QB's and WR's will not have good fantasy days against Denver.
- The Lions have no business running the football.
- Matchups are still the best way to go with a starting lineup. You look at statistics all offseason when deciding who to draft, so why stop once you get into the season?
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Bracie Smathers
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Mathis was a blanket and was getting great FS help from rookie Reggie Nelson. Expect a big bounce back game next week from Javon.
Brides Maids
Footballguy
I'm gonna have to do something about my QB situation Bulger isn't doing it for me and I don't think Schwaub is going to be the answer.
But then that other team (Seattle) still has to convert the 2-pointer. A failed attempt by Seattle still results in a game-winning FG attempt for the Bengals, rather than a game-tying FG attempt. I am in complete agreement with other posters that going for 2 when only up 4 is a bad decision...and barring a fumbled kickoff by Cincy, the game played out EXACTLY why you don't go for 2 in that situation (a go ahead TD for Seattle and Cincy getting the ball back with the chance for a FG to tie, rather than to potentially win).
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Lord of the Rings
Footballguy
What have I learned...
I need to watch more college football games, because my Phins will be drafting at the top spot next year.
I need to watch more college football games, because my Phins will be drafting at the top spot next year.
Brides Maids
Footballguy
If you do come back in why don't you do us all a favor and make all of these comments in one post!!!I have a few more but I can barely keep my eyes open. I will be back in here on Monday.
LILB811
Footballguy
... so it's a better idea to put the game in the other team's hands and let them go for 2? Personally I would want my offense on the field, determining the outcome of the game whether they get it done or not. Just a matter of opinion I guess. That 2 point chart has said go for 2 when up by 4 since it was created.
As a long-time Redskins homer, this pains me no end, but...
Joe Gibbs should retire. The Skins had no business losing that game yesterday, and the reasons they lost were
1. Poor play-calling
2. Poor preparation for a two-minute drill
3. Poor personnel decisions
4. Poor clock management
All of those are the head coach's responsibility, at heart. And this is not the first time - I have not seen a well-executed two-minute deal at the end of a game in four years.
They still might have lost in overtime, but there is no excuse why they didn't get there.
Joe Gibbs should retire. The Skins had no business losing that game yesterday, and the reasons they lost were
1. Poor play-calling
2. Poor preparation for a two-minute drill
3. Poor personnel decisions
4. Poor clock management
All of those are the head coach's responsibility, at heart. And this is not the first time - I have not seen a well-executed two-minute deal at the end of a game in four years.
They still might have lost in overtime, but there is no excuse why they didn't get there.
B-Deep
Footballguy
I am not a skins fan but I agree. The end of that game was painful.
Dought Man
Footballguy
1. You can't spell DEAD JAM without MJD.
2. Bill Bellichik hates Maroney owners (with a passion).
3. Henry snuck in and cashed on a carry inside the 10 yard line. Shanahan mistakenly pointed to him on the sideline instead of Selvin Young.
4. Marion Barber III is a must-start, no matter what I've been telling myself the last 3 weeks.
5. Penguin tried, but still cannot ruin this thread
6. Tom Brady is going to throw 38 TD's this season.
2. Bill Bellichik hates Maroney owners (with a passion).
3. Henry snuck in and cashed on a carry inside the 10 yard line. Shanahan mistakenly pointed to him on the sideline instead of Selvin Young.
4. Marion Barber III is a must-start, no matter what I've been telling myself the last 3 weeks.
5. Penguin tried, but still cannot ruin this thread
6. Tom Brady is going to throw 38 TD's this season.
Pittsburgh United
Footballguy
I have to agree. For the life of me, I have no idea why they'd pull Portis at the goalline. He would have punched it in.
((Morpheus))
Footballguy
Like watching a trainwreck in slow motion...
Kirby
Footballguy
And if Chris Perry is ready to go by then, the passing O is going to be sick. They'll atleast finish 9-7.
erymer
Footballguy
yeah Portis wouldn't have fallen over his own feet going into the endzone. just pitiful.
spitkickers
Footballguy
- Not necessarily learned, but just more confirmed - the SF passing game is horrid. But the SF pass D looks good.
- At week 3, all of the previous "abberation busts" such as the LT/LJ's/Evans'/MJD's have now hopped on the "trend" fence. S Jax showed signs of life despite STL losing yet another OL player. Ronnie Brown woke up. Those two might be letting owners breathe just the slightest bit easier, for now. The remaining question of the week - will Bush be jumping on the fence too?
- I didn't get to see the game, but what happened to Steve Smith? How did ATL shut him down? The lesson learned was that he COULD be shut down, I honestly did not know that.
- On a similar note, I don't think TO can be shut down. Some of those passes he caught were in heavy double traffic, and Romo didn't seem to even mind.
- Personal lesson learned this week: don't bench your studs (McNabb and Boldin sat). I exclude Lee Evans from that lesson. An extension of that lesson is that Campbell is not ready to start at QB for your FF team yet. Oops.
- Tampa Bay is good again?
- The Carolina defense has had two bad weeks and just made Harrington look like Manning, time to dump them.
- Speaking of Manning, given the chance, the Colts are going to run the ball instead of pass it.
- Jeremy Shockey is a TE I am seriously considering targeting in trades this week. Watching Eli's eyes during reads, on a lot of plays he would lock on Shockey and not even move to other options.
- At week 3, all of the previous "abberation busts" such as the LT/LJ's/Evans'/MJD's have now hopped on the "trend" fence. S Jax showed signs of life despite STL losing yet another OL player. Ronnie Brown woke up. Those two might be letting owners breathe just the slightest bit easier, for now. The remaining question of the week - will Bush be jumping on the fence too?
- I didn't get to see the game, but what happened to Steve Smith? How did ATL shut him down? The lesson learned was that he COULD be shut down, I honestly did not know that.
- On a similar note, I don't think TO can be shut down. Some of those passes he caught were in heavy double traffic, and Romo didn't seem to even mind.
- Personal lesson learned this week: don't bench your studs (McNabb and Boldin sat). I exclude Lee Evans from that lesson. An extension of that lesson is that Campbell is not ready to start at QB for your FF team yet. Oops.
- Tampa Bay is good again?
- The Carolina defense has had two bad weeks and just made Harrington look like Manning, time to dump them.
- Speaking of Manning, given the chance, the Colts are going to run the ball instead of pass it.
- Jeremy Shockey is a TE I am seriously considering targeting in trades this week. Watching Eli's eyes during reads, on a lot of plays he would lock on Shockey and not even move to other options.
Receivers tend to have better numbers when teams throw the ball more.Here's another tip: cut Warrick Dunn.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Very interesting stat. I think as long as Garcia can stay upright, that team can go far.
Sister Havana
Footballguy
Bears homer, and these things kill me to admit...
-Brett Favre looks a lot more like the really good Brett Favre he's been most of his career, and not the Brett Favre of the last couple years.
-All Bears offensive players are not worth starting at this point. The Bears definitely made a HUGE mistake letting Thomas Jones go.
-Apparently Tony Romo isn't a one-season fluke.
-Brett Favre looks a lot more like the really good Brett Favre he's been most of his career, and not the Brett Favre of the last couple years.
-All Bears offensive players are not worth starting at this point. The Bears definitely made a HUGE mistake letting Thomas Jones go.
-Apparently Tony Romo isn't a one-season fluke.
My take on the Dallas rb situation. I am firmly in the "MB3 is way better than Jones" camp, but do not think Dallas should change how they are being used. I start Barber every week in a dynasty league and have Jones on the bench. I would love to see Barber get more carries and take over as the full time back, but the more you watch the Dallas offense move the ball and run up the score on teams, why should they change? Have the backs split carries. Give Barber the imprortant carries and save both of them from being overworked.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
I have personally learned that Romo will be in the starting lineup for me and Bulger will be on the bench, regardless of the matchups they have 
Uncle Humuna
Footballguy
Nate Clements was worth every penny.Dude is a playmaker.So is Willis.BY still has it.Their run D will be their downfall though:Steven Jackson aside, Edge & FWP gashed them pretty good.Start your RBs against SF.Alligator Jackson and Ashley Simpson were a complete waste of money.Alex Smith is a good QB.He needs someone to throw to.Without a vertical threat, Gore will continue to find it tough going.They've taken about 1 shot down the field each game.Their run D isn't good enough to play so conservative on O.spitkickers said:
Uncle Humuna
Footballguy
Stillers better learn how to pass protect or Big Ben is going to get killed.Niners are not known for their pass rush, and they were all over him yesterday.Roth bailed them out time after time because of his size and strength.Hard to rely on that for a full season . . .
east2west
Footballguy
Yet we still spanked them. Agree the O-line is the ? But will get beter as the season goes on. This o-line is goog.
Tampa will win more games this year than Denver! Denver can't stop the run, Tampa has one of the best defenses in football.....again.
Green bay will win more games than San Diego! This is the best WR corps that Favre has had in his entire career!
I would have never thought either of these coming into this season.
Green bay will win more games than San Diego! This is the best WR corps that Favre has had in his entire career!
I would have never thought either of these coming into this season.
Frank Black
Footballguy
That is a profound statement that is hard to accept, but probably wise advice.Steeler07 said:
Frank Black
Footballguy
True, but the season is playing out in the way that people predicted who passed over him in the draft. Westbrook owners will have a season full of injury report drama. We are learning that this season is developing no differently.Penguin said:
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
stevegamer
Footballguy
Apparently, then it's been wrong since it's been created. The decision being up 4 is irrelevant UNLESS there are 2 more scores in the game in some combination.If you are up 4 or 5 or 6, and the opponents get a FG or SF and no other scores happen you win. If you are up 4 or 5 and the opponents get a TD, you lose - if you do get up 6, you have a 1-2% chance to remain tied on missed PAT. So the move to go for two works here if: you give up a TD, stop the XP, and then score next. Still requires 2 scores.LILB811 said:
So the decision when up by 4 has to be made assuming the opponents will score, and you will get the ball or fail to get the ball on an onside kick. Given that you know there needs to be another 2 scores for this decsion to be relevant, you need to positon yourself to win the most often you can if the next score goes as a TD against you. Safeties are unlikely, and even a FG leaves you in the lead.
Kick the XP, kick away, and if you give up a FG, the opponents are looking for an onside kick. If they score a TD, all you need is a FG to win, unless they made a 2, in which case a FG ties and TD still wins.
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Sleeper 43
Footballguy
Regardless of the matchup Romo has reached must start status.
