What is the most impressive individual record... (1 Viewer)

[TC]

Otto Graham - appeared in 10 straight league championship games, winning 7 of them.

Graham was an ideal QB for his time, and perhpas one of the best ever. However, let's put the Browns Championship games in proper prospective. They played in the All-american Football Conference for four seasons against a poor group of teams, losing only twice in games. The stright NFL championship games are VERY impressive, but let's somewhat discount the AAFC success. (I personally thing Graham the most successful QB ever.)

 

[Tau837]

Otto Graham played in 10 seasons for the Browns and led his team to the championship game 10 times, winning 7.

Old post on Graham from a greatest QB of all time discussion:

While I think Graham deserves to be in the conversation, here are some things to note about his case.1. He won 4 straight AAFC championships, but there were only between 7 and 9 teams in that league in those 4 seasons. He then went to 6 straight NFL championship games, with 13 teams in one season and 12 teams in the other 5 seasons.2. His team not only had one of the top passing games, but also consistently had one of the few best running games and defenses in the respective leagues over the 10 year period. It could be that his defense was the best overall throughout the 10 year period, but I didn't try to examine that to be sure.3. He played his entire career for HOF coach Paul Brown. From his Wiki page:- Brown is considered the "father of the modern offense," with many claiming that he ranks as one of if not the greatest of football coaches in history.- Brown put together the most extensive player recruitment network that had ever been seen in pro football at the time.- Brown ignored the gentlemen's agreement that barred African-American players from the league, adding future Pro Football Hall of Famers Marion Motley and Bill Willis.- He was the first to use intelligence tests to judge players, establish a game film library, instruct players in a classroom setting, use a radio transmitter to communicate with players on the field, and install face masks on helmets.- Brown's offense was the predecessor of the West Coast offense made famous by Bill Walsh, a protégé of Brown.4. He played with HOF C Frank Gatski, HOF T/K Lou Groza, and HOF E Dante Lavelli for his entire career. He had HOF G Bill Willis and HOF FB Marion Motley for his first 8 (of 10) seasons. He played his last 2 seasons (of 10) with HOF T Mike McCormack. He also had Mac Speedie for his first 7 seasons; Mac was All Pro in 6 of those 7 years, though he is not a HOFer.5. I have seen it posted in this forum that the best athletes in that era played offense. I have also seen it posted that defenses did not understand pursuit angles and did not run elaborate schemes as they came to do in later eras. I'm not sure how to verify these things.6. In Graham's last 10 seasons, Cleveland played in the title game 8 times without having to play any other playoff games. The other 2 times, Cleveland played one semifinal game. So Graham played in 10 title games but only 12 total playoff games....Anyway, I agree Graham is one of the best ever. However, there was no draft or salary cap and virtually no integration; he was surrounded by HOF talent; he faced lesser competition, both in terms of talent and number of teams; and he had a much easier road to title games. I think he has been overrated by some in this thread...

IMO these factors make his "individual record" of 7 championship games in 10 seasons less impressive than some of the others cited in this thread.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Hard to argue against those records by Favre and Rice. The special teams plays are great, but those are once in a lifetime plays, while Favre and Rice's accomplishments are career-long, which I think makes them more impressive.

Manning's career may pass Farve in most areas, but we will see.

Or he may not. Three years ago, many thought Tomlinson had a good shot at breaking Emmitt Smith's all-time rushing record. That isn't looking very likely now, is it? Same thing could happen with Peyton Manning. All it takes is one bad shot, one weird injury, etc, and boom, he misses a game and is then starting from scratch.

 

[Oh Yes!]

i had 313 rushing yards in a game in 8th grade. :untouchable:

 

[Doug B]

Individual, one-game record that will probably never be touched:

Ernie Nevers scoring 40 pts in a game (6 TDs, kicked 4 PATs).

 

[jon_mx]

Individual, one-game record that will probably never be touched:

Ernie Nevers scoring 40 pts in a game (6 TDs, kicked 4 PATs).

Actually, Brady's 5 TD's in one quarter could be one of the most impressive stats ever.

 

[Doug B]

Individual, one-game record that will probably never be touched:

Ernie Nevers scoring 40 pts in a game (6 TDs, kicked 4 PATs).

Actually, Brady's 5 TD's in one quarter could be one of the most impressive stats ever.

Yeah ... but Brady didn't cross the goal line himself ... and he didn't kick the PATs Paul Hornung's 176 pts in a season is pretty crazy, too (lots of kicking points, of course).

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Otto Graham played in 10 seasons for the Browns and led his team to the championship game 10 times, winning 7.

Weren't there like 8 teams at the time?

Which means that every team had more talent per team than now.I think Eric Dickerson's rookie rushing record has got to be at the top, mostly because you've only got one chance to do it. Not saying I actually think it's the most impressive feat ahead of some others mentioned here, but it warrants consideration.

X

Ok whatever you say guy.All I'll say is this...if the NFL today had eight teams, the ONLY starting QBs in the league would be the following: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, and probably Donovan McNabb.

Carson Palmer, Kurt Warner, Matt Schaub, Donovan McNabb, Eli Manning, Tony Romo, Joe Flacco, & Matt Ryan would be backups, as would every other QB in the league.

If that doesn't prove there would be more talent per team, I don't know what does.

ETA: Didn't mean to list McNabb twice, as I moved him from backup to starter.

Yeah, but there's also like 30x more people that grow up trying to become professional football players now than there were then. If you went back to the Otto Graham days all those guys wouldn't exist, because football wouldn't have been on many of their radars in high school.Besides that, your point is entirely meaningless anyways since Graham's team would be one of those that had more talent. Any way you swing it, it's a lot easier to win a championship with 8 teams than it is with 32. There's a reason no one has been to 10 straight championships in the modern era, and it's the same reason that Yale won like 30 national championships when there were only a few teams and hasn't even been ranked since there were 100.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

i had 313 rushing yards in a game in 8th grade. :untouchable:

The over/under on number of touchdown's thrown by me in this Friday's family Thanksgiving football game is 16.5. I'll let you know how it goes but either way, it's going to be an insurmoutable record.

 

[Steady Mooobin]

Otto Graham played in 10 seasons for the Browns and led his team to the championship game 10 times, winning 7.

Weren't there like 8 teams at the time?

Which means that every team had more talent per team than now.I think Eric Dickerson's rookie rushing record has got to be at the top, mostly because you've only got one chance to do it. Not saying I actually think it's the most impressive feat ahead of some others mentioned here, but it warrants consideration.

X

Ok whatever you say guy.All I'll say is this...if the NFL today had eight teams, the ONLY starting QBs in the league would be the following: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, and probably Donovan McNabb.

Carson Palmer, Kurt Warner, Matt Schaub, Donovan McNabb, Eli Manning, Tony Romo, Joe Flacco, & Matt Ryan would be backups, as would every other QB in the league.

If that doesn't prove there would be more talent per team, I don't know what does.

ETA: Didn't mean to list McNabb twice, as I moved him from backup to starter.

This is shtick, right?

 

[Steady Mooobin]

The all time rushing record is imo, the most prestigious record in all of sports.

 

[Native]

In an age of smash-mouth football, Norm Van Brocklin passed for 554 yards in one game in 1951 - a record that has stood for 58 years and counting. The record is an historical anomaly that simply has no equal. To put the record into proper historical perspective, consider that only ONE team averaged 200 yards per game passing in 1951 - the Browns at 213 yards per game. Over the years, it has withstood the aerial assaults of Unitas, Tarkenton, Fouts, Marino, Manning, Brady, Brees and others. Likewise, it has held its own despite numerous passing innovations - the advent of the shotgun formation in 1960, the move to three WR sets, the original West Coast offense, the "Walsh" west coast offense, the run and shoot, the spread, etc.

While this record may indeed get broken one day, the fact it was recorded before the advent of the modern passing game and STILL survived all these years is a testament to the greatness of Van Brocklin's feat.

 

[Chase Stuart]

In an age of smash-mouth football, Norm Van Brocklin passed for 554 yards in one game in 1951 - a record that has stood for 58 years and counting. The record is an historical anomaly that simply has no equal. To put the record into proper historical perspective, consider that only ONE team averaged 200 yards per game passing in 1951 - the Browns at 213 yards per game. Over the years, it has withstood the aerial assaults of Unitas, Tarkenton, Fouts, Marino, Manning, Brady, Brees and others. Likewise, it has held its own despite numerous passing innovations - the advent of the shotgun formation in 1960, the move to three WR sets, the original West Coast offense, the "Walsh" west coast offense, the run and shoot, the spread, etc.

While this record may indeed get broken one day, the fact it was recorded before the advent of the modern passing game and STILL survived all these years is a testament to the greatness of Van Brocklin's feat.

I'll disagree.For starters, those Rams teams were so much more advanced offensively than any other team besides Brown's Browns; I don't think NVB was at a disadvantage in the era. The year before, they set the record (still standing) for points per game in a season. The Rams were also freakishly loaded with talent; Elroy Hirsch, Tom Fears, Dan Towler, Tank Younger and **** Hoerner were all playing in their relative primes.

More importantly, they were playing the historically awful New York Yanks. No defense today compares to that talent-depleted squad. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=1669

 

[Anarchy99]

How about combination records?

Didn't Sammy Baugh in 1943 lead the league in completions, completion percentage, punting, and interceptions? Certainly no one will do that ever again . . .

 

[Instinctive]

296 rushing yards in one game, by one player?

 

[joeski]

Not one mention of Barry Sanders. Has 10 Detroit Lions team records and numerous NFL records.

 

[bryhamm]

Antonio Cromartie's 108 yard FG return TD? I believe it is the longest play in history...when you watch the video his foot is like 6 inches from the back of the endzone...

NFL rounds down to whole yards. A play from the 1 inch line is a 99 yard TD, not a 100. Same situation here IIRC

that's the point. to say it was 108 yards means that it was between 108 and 109, and they rounded to 108. Six inches from the back of the end zone would be between 109 and 110, and would round to 109. 109 is the longest it could ever be.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

Don Hutson's 1942 stats are mind numbing. forward pass was a friggin novelty back then and he put up a season that would earn him a pro bowl in today's game/era. he was a bigger mismatch for defenses than Gale Sayers or Randy Moss. quite simply he could be the most dominant player the NFL has ever seen

 

[X42]

O. J. Simpson's 2,003 yards rushing in 14 games.

In 1997, Barry Sanders totaled 2053 for the season. But he actually reached 2000 yards in 14 games. He started the first two week with 53 total yards and then compiled 2000 yards in 14 games. Just say'n... Then again, if you take away all his long runs...http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play...0/gamelog/1997/

 

[Native]

In an age of smash-mouth football, Norm Van Brocklin passed for 554 yards in one game in 1951 - a record that has stood for 58 years and counting. The record is an historical anomaly that simply has no equal. To put the record into proper historical perspective, consider that only ONE team averaged 200 yards per game passing in 1951 - the Browns at 213 yards per game. Over the years, it has withstood the aerial assaults of Unitas, Tarkenton, Fouts, Marino, Manning, Brady, Brees and others. Likewise, it has held its own despite numerous passing innovations - the advent of the shotgun formation in 1960, the move to three WR sets, the original West Coast offense, the "Walsh" west coast offense, the run and shoot, the spread, etc.

While this record may indeed get broken one day, the fact it was recorded before the advent of the modern passing game and STILL survived all these years is a testament to the greatness of Van Brocklin's feat.

I'll disagree.For starters, those Rams teams were so much more advanced offensively than any other team besides Brown's Browns; I don't think NVB was at a disadvantage in the era. The year before, they set the record (still standing) for points per game in a season. The Rams were also freakishly loaded with talent; Elroy Hirsch, Tom Fears, Dan Towler, Tank Younger and **** Hoerner were all playing in their relative primes.

More importantly, they were playing the historically awful New York Yanks. No defense today compares to that talent-depleted squad. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=1669

Interesting read, thanks.Chase, keep in mind that HOFer Bob Waterfield played in the same offense and never sniffed those sorts of single game stats. So you cant make really make an argument that Van Brocklin's stats are overblown, or alternatively, that anyone could have put up such lofty numbers for those Rams teams against a poor opponent - because the Rams actually had TWO HOF QB's on that very squad!

All total, only nine QBs have thrown for 500 yards in a game in the last 90 years - Van Brocklin and YA Tittle were the only QB's pre-1980 to reach that mark.

9/28/1951 Norm Van Brocklin STL 54 NYY 14 - 554 yards

10/28/1962 Y.A. Tittle NYG 49 WSH 34 - 505 yards

12/26/1982 Vince Ferragamo STL 26 CHI 34 - 509 yards

10/13/1985 Phil Simms NYG 30 CIN 35 - 513 yards

10/23/1988 Dan Marino MIA 30 NYJ 44 - 521 yards

12/16/1990 Warren Moon TEN 27 KCC 10 527 yards

11/10/1996 Boomer Esiason ARZ 37 WSH 34 - 522 yards

11/5/2000 Elvis Grbac KCC 31 OAK 49 - 504 yards

11/19/2006 Drew Brees NOS 16 CIN 31 - 510 yards

 

[Chase Stuart]

In an age of smash-mouth football, Norm Van Brocklin passed for 554 yards in one game in 1951 - a record that has stood for 58 years and counting. The record is an historical anomaly that simply has no equal. To put the record into proper historical perspective, consider that only ONE team averaged 200 yards per game passing in 1951 - the Browns at 213 yards per game. Over the years, it has withstood the aerial assaults of Unitas, Tarkenton, Fouts, Marino, Manning, Brady, Brees and others. Likewise, it has held its own despite numerous passing innovations - the advent of the shotgun formation in 1960, the move to three WR sets, the original West Coast offense, the "Walsh" west coast offense, the run and shoot, the spread, etc.

While this record may indeed get broken one day, the fact it was recorded before the advent of the modern passing game and STILL survived all these years is a testament to the greatness of Van Brocklin's feat.

I'll disagree.For starters, those Rams teams were so much more advanced offensively than any other team besides Brown's Browns; I don't think NVB was at a disadvantage in the era. The year before, they set the record (still standing) for points per game in a season. The Rams were also freakishly loaded with talent; Elroy Hirsch, Tom Fears, Dan Towler, Tank Younger and **** Hoerner were all playing in their relative primes.

More importantly, they were playing the historically awful New York Yanks. No defense today compares to that talent-depleted squad. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=1669

Interesting read, thanks.Chase, keep in mind that HOFer Bob Waterfield played in the same offense and never sniffed those sorts of single game stats. So you cant make really make an argument that Van Brocklin's stats are overblown, or alternatively, that anyone could have put up such lofty numbers for those Rams teams against a poor opponent - because the Rams actually had TWO HOF QB's on that very squad!

All total, only nine QBs have thrown for 500 yards in a game in the last 90 years - Van Brocklin and YA Tittle were the only QB's pre-1980 to reach that mark.

9/28/1951 Norm Van Brocklin STL 54 NYY 14 - 554 yards

10/28/1962 Y.A. Tittle NYG 49 WSH 34 - 505 yards

12/26/1982 Vince Ferragamo STL 26 CHI 34 - 509 yards

10/13/1985 Phil Simms NYG 30 CIN 35 - 513 yards

10/23/1988 Dan Marino MIA 30 NYJ 44 - 521 yards

12/16/1990 Warren Moon TEN 27 KCC 10 527 yards

11/10/1996 Boomer Esiason ARZ 37 WSH 34 - 522 yards

11/5/2000 Elvis Grbac KCC 31 OAK 49 - 504 yards

11/19/2006 Drew Brees NOS 16 CIN 31 - 510 yards

Waterfield isn't a real HOF QB. He did have one of the most amazing rookie seasons any QB has ever had, but (with the exception of '51) he underperformed every year after that. He was a terrific punter and placekicker, and played some defensive back in his career, as well. Judged solely as a QB, and I'm confident he would not have made the HOF.I certainly agree that NVB was an outstanding QB, and of course not any QB could have done what he did. But he happened to have a lot of advantages that day -- great teammates and a horrendous opponent being the two big ones. Someone like Peyton Manning will likely never throw for 554 yards because he won't play the equivalent of a college team, and even if he did, he likely wouldn't throw 42 passes in that game.

But yeah, a pretty great game from NVB. Definitely one of the all time greats.

 

[CEO of the Barefoots]

O. J. Simpson's 2,003 yards rushing in 14 games.

Agreed...This is the equivalent to almost 2300 yards rushing in a 16 game season.

 

[Raider Nation]

Waterfield isn't a real HOF QB. He did have one of the most amazing rookie seasons any QB has ever had, but (with the exception of '51) he underperformed every year after that.

He married Jane Russell, who was the hottest thing going in her day. That alone makes him a Hall-of-Famer in my book.

 

[fantasysharkctb]

Chris Johnson's single season rushing record of 2133 yards is quite the accomplishment in my opinion.

 

[Native]

Another great record is most interceptions by a Rookie in a single season - 14 by Night Train Lane in 1952. It also happens to be the NFL record for most INT's by ANY player in a season (i.e. not just rookies). Dont think we'll ever see that mark broken - certainly not by a rookie (OK, maybe Eric Berry)

 

[PatsFanCT]

Longest Punt:98 yards- Steve O'Neal, N.Y. Jets vs. Denver, Sept. 21, 1969Longest Field Goal: 63 yards- Tom Dempsey, New Orleans vs. Detroit, Nov. 8, 1970, Jason Elam, Denver vs. Jacksonville, Oct. 25, 1998Yes I had to look them up but I'm one of those people who don't think special teamers get enough credit.

The punt had like a 30 mph wind behind it and rolled 30 yards. As for the FG's, besides being shared, that record will be broken, and then broken again. Janikowski will probably hit one from 70, assuming he can luck out on accuracy.

 

[Steady Mooobin]

Not one mention of Barry Sanders. Has 10 Detroit Lions team records and numerous NFL records.

He owns the record for most carries for a loss, what else?

 

[X42]

Not one mention of Barry Sanders. Has 10 Detroit Lions team records and numerous NFL records.

He owns the record for most carries for a loss, what else?

He made it fun to watch the Lions on Thanksgiving.

 

[basher]

1. Rice yardage/TDs2. Favre's consecutive games started3. Emmitt's rushing yds

What about Jerry Rice's total receptions mark that nobody is even remotely close to. Isaac Bruce, Terrell Owens, and Tony Gonzalez are the closest active but they are not within 500.

 

[candymanvandyfan]

Marino throwing for 5084 yards as a 23 year old is impressive.

Somebody might break that record, but it won't be at the age of 23.

Those three records mentioned by Manster are on point, and in the right order.

 

[Michael Brown]

All I'll say is this...if the NFL today had eight teams, the ONLY starting QBs in the league would be the following: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, and probably Donovan McNabb.

Carson Palmer, Kurt Warner, Matt Schaub, Donovan McNabb, Eli Manning, Tony Romo, Joe Flacco, & Matt Ryan would be backups, as would every other QB in the league.

If that doesn't prove there would be more talent per team, I don't know what does.

ETA: Didn't mean to list McNabb twice, as I moved him from backup to starter.

This is shtick, right?

Nope, just math. The 4th best QB in the NFL these days is a Pro Bowler. The 4th-best QB back then was average for his position. I'm not saying the players back then were better; I'm just saying that whatever talent did exist in the league was not spread out very thin.Could those teams have hung with even the worst teams of today? Probably not. But for the era they played, which is the only one we can compare them against, he won a crapload of titles. I don't care how many teams are in the league -- fact is, HE was the guy winning.

As for the previous argument about how many people grew up trying to be professional football players, who cares? So Otto Graham was dominant in an era when not a lot of people wanted to play. Is that supposed to be a fault against him? He also didn't have access to trainer's rooms, steroids, and a ridiculous salary. Had the players back then been in possession of that stuff, who knows how good they'd have been?

See my point? It's impossible to compare players against different eras, especially ones so wildly different as these. So all we can go on is how they performed against their peers. And against his peers, Graham was awesome.

 

[Tau837]

All I'll say is this...if the NFL today had eight teams, the ONLY starting QBs in the league would be the following: Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, and probably Donovan McNabb.

Carson Palmer, Kurt Warner, Matt Schaub, Donovan McNabb, Eli Manning, Tony Romo, Joe Flacco, & Matt Ryan would be backups, as would every other QB in the league.

If that doesn't prove there would be more talent per team, I don't know what does.

ETA: Didn't mean to list McNabb twice, as I moved him from backup to starter.

This is shtick, right?

Nope, just math. The 4th best QB in the NFL these days is a Pro Bowler. The 4th-best QB back then was average for his position. I'm not saying the players back then were better; I'm just saying that whatever talent did exist in the league was not spread out very thin.Could those teams have hung with even the worst teams of today? Probably not. But for the era they played, which is the only one we can compare them against, he won a crapload of titles. I don't care how many teams are in the league -- fact is, HE was the guy winning.

As for the previous argument about how many people grew up trying to be professional football players, who cares? So Otto Graham was dominant in an era when not a lot of people wanted to play. Is that supposed to be a fault against him? He also didn't have access to trainer's rooms, steroids, and a ridiculous salary. Had the players back then been in possession of that stuff, who knows how good they'd have been?

See my point? It's impossible to compare players against different eras, especially ones so wildly different as these. So all we can go on is how they performed against their peers. And against his peers, Graham was awesome.

The bolded is where your argument is a bit off base IMO. There was no draft, no free agency, no salary cap. Talent was not even close to being evenly distributed. And, in fact, Graham's team was stacked.That said, of course I agree that you can only reasonably compare players against their peers. And I'm not saying Graham wasn't great... I think he definitely was.

 

[Andy Herron]

The Career Rushing Yard Record. Nobody is going to get close to Emmitt. RBBC's and RBs being forced into retirement in their early thirties will make sure of that.

I've been proclaiming that since the day Emmitt retired, and I've yet to see anything to shudder my stance. Nobody on this board will live to see it broken, I can assure you.That said, Brett Favre's starting streak remains the highest for this particular thread.It's not even close.

 

[Kevrunner]

Marino throwing for 5084 yards as a 23 year old is impressive.Somebody might break that record, but it won't be at the age of 23.Those three records mentioned by Manster are on point, and in the right order.

Stafford just broke one of Marino's records, the youngest QB to throw for 5 TDs in one game.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

This one is easy, and it's compared to Joe D'Maggio's 56 game hitting streak. Johnny U threw a TD pass in 47 straight games. It's a record that even in the pass happy era that we live in today no one can break.

Another great record is most interceptions by a Rookie in a single season - 14 by Night Train Lane in 1952. It also happens to be the NFL record for most INT's by ANY player in a season (i.e. not just rookies). Dont think we'll ever see that mark broken - certainly not by a rookie (OK, maybe Eric Berry)

These 2 stand out to me.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Jerry Rice was named a first-team All-Pro by the AP in 9 out of 10 straight seasons. I'm pretty confident that no WR will ever match that again. It's one thing for an OL or DL to match that, as those awards are largely based on reputation. But for a WR (or RB) to be named 1st team All-Pro in 9 of 10 straight years by the AP (with the one year where he wasn't named 1st team All-Pro by the Associated Press he was named 1st team All-Pro by Pro Football weekly and the Sporting News) is just nuts. I don't think any WR will ever have that level of dominance for a decade ever again.

G.O.A.T.

 

[beef]

Jalen Hurts, two turnovers in the same play.

 

[Gally]

Jalen Hurts, two turnovers in the same play.

Lucky for him he got the fumble recovery too so it was only a net -3 pts on the play. In our scoring he got -3 for the int, +3 for the fumble recovery and then -3 for the fumble lost. Just a fun play all around.

 

[Dizzy]

I've gone fly fishing 208 consecutive times without getting skunked.

The Streak!

 

[-OZ-]

Jalen Hurts, two turnovers in the same play.

Lucky for him he got the fumble recovery too so it was only a net -3 pts on the play. In our scoring he got -3 for the int, +3 for the fumble recovery and then -3 for the fumble lost. Just a fun play all around.

Unless of course you started him and lost by a few points.
Not me, I lost by 20. But still

 

[bryhamm]

Jalen Hurts, two turnovers in the same play.

Lucky for him he got the fumble recovery too so it was only a net -3 pts on the play. In our scoring he got -3 for the int, +3 for the fumble recovery and then -3 for the fumble lost. Just a fun play all around.

Unless of course you started him and lost by a few points.
Not me, I lost by 20. But still

or lost by less than 1 pt