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What kind of WINE did you drink last night?
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Thanks Genedoc. I was half in the bag last night and didn't think of going back in the thread. I have been to Napa before. I plan on hitting Buehler, whose wine club I belong to. IMO, one of the best values in Napa.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Personally, I'd make it a weekend in and of itself. But if you're determined, from what I can recall, Roederer Estates, Greenwood Ridge, and Navarro were our three favorite stops. It's been years, though.
cosjobs
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Well I arrived in New Orleans this afternoon for the Society of Wine Educators Conference.
I am supposed to meet with the President this evening to take the CWS (wine Specialist) Exam. I just completed the second level with ISG and took the first part of the CMS last summer, so I'm hoping I can handle it. If I do, I'll sit fro the CWE (Wine Educator) Exam tomorrow.
Then the rest of the week will be focusing on tasting hundreds of wines.
I am supposed to meet with the President this evening to take the CWS (wine Specialist) Exam. I just completed the second level with ISG and took the first part of the CMS last summer, so I'm hoping I can handle it. If I do, I'll sit fro the CWE (Wine Educator) Exam tomorrow.
Then the rest of the week will be focusing on tasting hundreds of wines.
jamny
Footballguy
Good Luck!
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Just bought some Turley Old Vine and Turley Rattlesnake Ridge Zins. 
tipsy mcstagger
Footballguy
2004 Gerard Mugneret Vosne-Roamnee.
I'm becoming more and more of a francophile as time goes on. This is damn good Pinot.
I'm becoming more and more of a francophile as time goes on. This is damn good Pinot.
tipsy mcstagger
Footballguy
Try and get the Dragon or Duarte...even the Dusi vineyards. Of course even their Juvie is light years better than most zins out there.Just bought some Turley Old Vine and Turley Rattlesnake Ridge Zins.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
I got what I could, man. Last 3 bottles of the Old Vine and 3 of the final 6 of the Rattlesnake (They capped me at 6). I'm debating whether or not a return trip tomorrow is the way to go.Try and get the Dragon or Duarte...even the Dusi vineyards. Of course even their Juvie is light years better than most zins out there.Just bought some Turley Old Vine and Turley Rattlesnake Ridge Zins.
tipsy mcstagger
Footballguy
The rattlesnake is worth it. Go.I got what I could, man. Last 3 bottles of the Old Vine and 3 of the final 6 of the Rattlesnake (They capped me at 6). I'm debating whether or not a return trip tomorrow is the way to go.Try and get the Dragon or Duarte...even the Dusi vineyards. Of course even their Juvie is light years better than most zins out there.Just bought some Turley Old Vine and Turley Rattlesnake Ridge Zins.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
try some william selyem, especially their single vineyard products. very french style. i had the rochiolli(sp?) tonight & it was top notch.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Already...need a somewhat versatile white wine.
Will be having a pork loin that is sliced and rolled with a mix of garlic, smoked cheddar and swiss, and proscuitto in the middle.
But not sure how much we will drink with it tonight...tomorrow's menu includes a grilled ham and hot roast beef sandwiches (I also have a bottle of Peter Lehman's Clancys that will be the red available).
Thoughts?
ETA: We have a mixed bag of wine tastes...my mother prefers a drier wine...while others may want something a bit more fruity.
Will be having a pork loin that is sliced and rolled with a mix of garlic, smoked cheddar and swiss, and proscuitto in the middle.
But not sure how much we will drink with it tonight...tomorrow's menu includes a grilled ham and hot roast beef sandwiches (I also have a bottle of Peter Lehman's Clancys that will be the red available).
Thoughts?
ETA: We have a mixed bag of wine tastes...my mother prefers a drier wine...while others may want something a bit more fruity.
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TheFanatic
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Not a huge fan. They are giving this stuff away around here. Marking it down to $6 or $7 all over the place. Had a couple bottles, but I don't like it nearly as well as the Pillar Box....
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I had this a couple weeks ago:
Castoro Cellars 2005 Chard
It was fantastic. Went back to buy more on Monday and I got the last bottle.
Went back a couple days ago and they had more....I picked up a couple more bottles...
Castoro Cellars 2005 Chard
It was fantastic. Went back to buy more on Monday and I got the last bottle.
Went back a couple days ago and they had more....I picked up a couple more bottles...
sho nuff
Footballguy
Maybe you could answer my question above with the Pork loin as you are a grilling aficionado as well as appear to like wine.
tipsy mcstagger
Footballguy
I tasted 12 wines yesterday. 12 on wednesday. 3 on monday.
My palate hurts.
My palate hurts.
tipsy mcstagger
Footballguy
You are dead to me.Had a nice glass of pinot noir, yellow tail, 2006. It was...well...about what you'd expect
TheFanatic
Footballguy
If you can find Castoro Cellars you will be good to go. A Hess Chard (green label) is also very nice and not expensive. For a nice table wine, try a bottle of white truck. I keep a few bottles of this around for unexpected wine binges that happen at my house periodically when people come over that I don't want raiding my expensive stuff.None of these are too terribly dry and your mother would probably like as well.Turner and Cole makes a great Chard and an even better Cab.I also like Travis Chard. Any of these will do the job....GLGBSN
Vladislav Tretiak
Footballguy
Pinot Blanc (Marcel Deiss) will have the pear for the fruit loverA nice dry Gewürztraminer if you want dry. A dry Riesling (Oriel has a nice dry one) will work also
TheFanatic
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I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to say it. I won't add Yellow Tail to my marinades. They can't do a decent Shiraz. Is there any doubt that they would wreck a Pinot?BTW, Yellow tail was sold under a different label and it just didn't sell. They changed the label, but not the wine, and now it is tearing it up. Why? Women. Women tend to buy wines based on labels. Men tend to ask what's good. Ironically men won't ask for directions but they will ask about wine. Yellow tail is a marketing company not a wine maker.You are dead to me.Had a nice glass of pinot noir, yellow tail, 2006. It was...well...about what you'd expect.
adonis
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You are dead to me.Had a nice glass of pinot noir, yellow tail, 2006. It was...well...about what you'd expect.
...My budget for wine, and the selection in my area, could never be described as good. So, cheap wine is my friend. Usually I go for higher rated cheap wines, but I like yellow tail cab, and figured I'd give this one a spin...not terrible, but that's not saying much.
Vladislav Tretiak
Footballguy
Wow. I feel for you if Yellow Tail is a higher rated cheap wine. Not tearing you down but you have a bad area and do I know what you mean. I was north of Duluth in Two Harbors and the liquor store I stopped in at had jug wine, boxed wine, and plenty of Yellow Tail and Little Penguin. Can't you drive just a little ways to find a decent wine selection?adonis said:tipsy mcstagger said:You are dead to me.adonis said:Had a nice glass of pinot noir, yellow tail, 2006. It was...well...about what you'd expect.
...My budget for wine, and the selection in my area, could never be described as good. So, cheap wine is my friend. Usually I go for higher rated cheap wines, but I like yellow tail cab, and figured I'd give this one a spin...not terrible, but that's not saying much.
adonis
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Well, yellow tail isn't higher rated cheap wine really. In my area, there are only about 8 kinds of pinot noir under $10 that are worth even considering. Usually I went with meridian or something similar, but tried yellow tail just for a change. Wasn't pleased, but I didn't spit it out.Wow. I feel for you if Yellow Tail is a higher rated cheap wine. Not tearing you down but you have a bad area and do I know what you mean. I was north of Duluth in Two Harbors and the liquor store I stopped in at had jug wine, boxed wine, and plenty of Yellow Tail and Little Penguin. Can't you drive just a little ways to find a decent wine selection?adonis said:tipsy mcstagger said:You are dead to me.adonis said:Had a nice glass of pinot noir, yellow tail, 2006. It was...well...about what you'd expect
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Here is the problem. Cheap and Pinot are hard to use in the same sentence without putting really ####ty wine after those two words. Pinot is just very hard to do whereas it seems that anyone can put out a decent Shiraz. Ravenswood put a Shiraz out recently and I like it. If you have to choose between Yellow Tail and Little Penguin, particularly the Cab, I believe the LP Cab was rated at 89 points. For a $6-8 wine that is pretty good. And LP is made by Rosemount. I have no idea who makes Yellow Tail.Well, yellow tail isn't higher rated cheap wine really. In my area, there are only about 8 kinds of pinot noir under $10 that are worth even considering. Usually I went with meridian or something similar, but tried yellow tail just for a change. Wasn't pleased, but I didn't spit it out.Wow. I feel for you if Yellow Tail is a higher rated cheap wine. Not tearing you down but you have a bad area and do I know what you mean. I was north of Duluth in Two Harbors and the liquor store I stopped in at had jug wine, boxed wine, and plenty of Yellow Tail and Little Penguin. Can't you drive just a little ways to find a decent wine selection?adonis said:tipsy mcstagger said:You are dead to me.adonis said:Had a nice glass of pinot noir, yellow tail, 2006. It was...well...about what you'd expect.
Leo Scanlon
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You guys must live in California to be finding these fabulous wines. I live in the Maryland 'burbs of Washington, DC, where the county owns the liquor stores. The selection is shiate. I usually end up buying Australian wines.
adonis
Footballguy
Thanks for the tip! I'm always interested in hearing about cheap and highly rated wines.Here is the problem. Cheap and Pinot are hard to use in the same sentence without putting really ####ty wine after those two words. Pinot is just very hard to do whereas it seems that anyone can put out a decent Shiraz. Ravenswood put a Shiraz out recently and I like it. If you have to choose between Yellow Tail and Little Penguin, particularly the Cab, I believe the LP Cab was rated at 89 points. For a $6-8 wine that is pretty good. And LP is made by Rosemount. I have no idea who makes Yellow Tail.Well, yellow tail isn't higher rated cheap wine really. In my area, there are only about 8 kinds of pinot noir under $10 that are worth even considering. Usually I went with meridian or something similar, but tried yellow tail just for a change. Wasn't pleased, but I didn't spit it out.Wow. I feel for you if Yellow Tail is a higher rated cheap wine. Not tearing you down but you have a bad area and do I know what you mean. I was north of Duluth in Two Harbors and the liquor store I stopped in at had jug wine, boxed wine, and plenty of Yellow Tail and Little Penguin. Can't you drive just a little ways to find a decent wine selection?adonis said:tipsy mcstagger said:You are dead to me.adonis said:Had a nice glass of pinot noir, yellow tail, 2006. It was...well...about what you'd expect.
...My budget for wine, and the selection in my area, could never be described as good. So, cheap wine is my friend. Usually I go for higher rated cheap wines, but I like yellow tail cab, and figured I'd give this one a spin...not terrible, but that's not saying much.
Vladislav Tretiak
Footballguy
I saw 85 from the Wine Speculator for the '05 which makes me wonder how much advertising was spent on that label that month.Wine Speculator is not a really good rating guide.Unless you really like over fruity wines. I am not a fan of overly huge fruit bombs.Here is the problem. Cheap and Pinot are hard to use in the same sentence without putting really ####ty wine after those two words. Pinot is just very hard to do whereas it seems that anyone can put out a decent Shiraz. Ravenswood put a Shiraz out recently and I like it. If you have to choose between Yellow Tail and Little Penguin, particularly the Cab, I believe the LP Cab was rated at 89 points. For a $6-8 wine that is pretty good. And LP is made by Rosemount. I have no idea who makes Yellow Tail.Well, yellow tail isn't higher rated cheap wine really. In my area, there are only about 8 kinds of pinot noir under $10 that are worth even considering. Usually I went with meridian or something similar, but tried yellow tail just for a change. Wasn't pleased, but I didn't spit it out.Wow. I feel for you if Yellow Tail is a higher rated cheap wine. Not tearing you down but you have a bad area and do I know what you mean. I was north of Duluth in Two Harbors and the liquor store I stopped in at had jug wine, boxed wine, and plenty of Yellow Tail and Little Penguin. Can't you drive just a little ways to find a decent wine selection?adonis said:tipsy mcstagger said:You are dead to me.adonis said:Had a nice glass of pinot noir, yellow tail, 2006. It was...well...about what you'd expect...My budget for wine, and the selection in my area, could never be described as good. So, cheap wine is my friend. Usually I go for higher rated cheap wines, but I like yellow tail cab, and figured I'd give this one a spin...not terrible, but that's not saying much.
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Vladislav Tretiak
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Some quick ideas for good value wines:
Protocolo Tinto: 100% Tempranillo and not more then $10 a bottle.
Eguren Codice Tinto: 100% Tempranillo and probably $12 a bottle
Aramis Rouge: Tannat, Cab Sauv, and Cab Franc. It is robust and dense offering a chewy combination of black currant, mulling spices, and leather in both the nose and mouth. Not more then $10 a bottle
Araucano: Carmenere is no more then $10 a bottle. Cabernet Sauvignon is probably $11-12 at the most.
La Playa Estates: Merlot or Cab is no more then $9-10 a bottle
Protocolo Tinto: 100% Tempranillo and not more then $10 a bottle.
Eguren Codice Tinto: 100% Tempranillo and probably $12 a bottle
Aramis Rouge: Tannat, Cab Sauv, and Cab Franc. It is robust and dense offering a chewy combination of black currant, mulling spices, and leather in both the nose and mouth. Not more then $10 a bottle
Araucano: Carmenere is no more then $10 a bottle. Cabernet Sauvignon is probably $11-12 at the most.
La Playa Estates: Merlot or Cab is no more then $9-10 a bottle
TheFanatic
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I live in St. Louis.
St. Louis is viewed by many to be backward and hickish. The sushi and wine are way too good in this city for that to be true. I used to travel for a living, and the sushi here is as good as anywhere.And the wine stores are pretty good. They aren't the greatest individually, but collectively they have a phenomenal selection. Between Riddles, Wine Merchant, Grapevine Wines, and Provisions (which I work next door to and is seriously eating into my bank account - bought 3 bottles today for an engagement gift) you can find a ton of great wine. As well as some of the smaller places like Veritas, the place off Big Bend in Kirkwood that is invite only (mainly a wholesaler), and that joint in the Chesterfield commons the selection is pretty damn goodAlso, there is a place called Randalls Wine and Spirits that has a couple of locations but does a ton of business for wine gear online. I turned an all wood microwave cart into a mini wine bar by buying acrylic stemware hangers from them, taking the wheels off and stenciling some grapes and vines onto it.
adonis
Footballguy
Never seen any of these locally. I'm in a smaller city where most people drink beer or liquor, and wine is mostly purchased at liquor stores and grocery stores.Some quick ideas for good value winesrotocolo Tinto: 100% Tempranillo and not more then $10 a bottle. Eguren Codice Tinto: 100% Tempranillo and probably $12 a bottleAramis Rouge: Tannat, Cab Sauv, and Cab Franc. It is robust and dense offering a chewy combination of black currant, mulling spices, and leather in both the nose and mouth. Not more then $10 a bottleAraucano: Carmenere is no more then $10 a bottle. Cabernet Sauvignon is probably $11-12 at the most.La Playa Estates: Merlot or Cab is no more then $9-10 a bottle
sho nuff
Footballguy
I am a big fan of Australian reds.Grenache...shiraz...moroivuoeiride (lol...) That GSM mix is usually good or any of the 3 on their own.Most out of the Barossa valley are very good.D'arenberg makes some great wines.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I LOVE the Australians. Big beefy Shiraz' were my first love with wines and is still my fave. Pretty much all I drink are Australians and Californians. Nothing against the other regions, just that I can spend the rest of my life with these two regions and never get bored. I would rather have a strong grasp on those two regions than screw around with say French or German wines and order some stuff that sucks...Instead of dabbling in the French's and getting in over my head, I would rather master what I know and what I like. That being said, have played around lately with Alsace Sauv Blancs. Sauv or Fume Blancs used to be all I would drink but it's way to sweet for me now. But the SB's from Alsace are fantastic...Definitely ask someone at the store about this before buying a SB from Alsace if you don't like sweet wines...
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
BTW tipsy, for $5/bottle less, Outpost Zin >>> Turley Rattlesnake. And at a comparable price, Zahtila Oat Hill Estate Zin >>> both. And while I enjoyed all 3, personally, I'd rather have 2 bottles of Rafanelli's for the price of any of them.The rattlesnake is worth it. Go.I got what I could, man. Last 3 bottles of the Old Vine and 3 of the final 6 of the Rattlesnake (They capped me at 6). I'm debating whether or not a return trip tomorrow is the way to go.Try and get the Dragon or Duarte...even the Dusi vineyards. Of course even their Juvie is light years better than most zins out there.Just bought some Turley Old Vine and Turley Rattlesnake Ridge Zins.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Ended up going with Wente's Riva Ranch Charddonay with the pork loin last night. Pretty tasty, though I stuck to my Peter Lehman Clancys. My mother and wife both liked the wine. It was dry enough for my mother yet sweet enough for the wife (who would like it just a touch sweeter though). But good for people with 2 different tastes for wine. And went well with the rolled pork loin.
It was about $16.99 for the bottle.
It was about $16.99 for the bottle.
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Black Sunshine
Footballguy
Kendall Jackson 2006 Riesling
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Vladislav Tretiak
Footballguy
Chateau d'Orignac Pineau des Charentes with our dessert last night
66% Unfermented Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot from Bordeaux and 33% Cognac
Had this with a Hazelnut Lattice Cup filled with Mango Stilton, Raisins, and Honey Mascarpone Cheese
What a great treat!
66% Unfermented Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot from Bordeaux and 33% Cognac
Had this with a Hazelnut Lattice Cup filled with Mango Stilton, Raisins, and Honey Mascarpone Cheese
What a great treat!
cosjobs
Footballguy
I'd take an A. Rafenelli Zin over about any other I have tasted.BTW tipsy, for $5/bottle less, Outpost Zin >>> Turley Rattlesnake. And at a comparable price, Zahtila Oat Hill Estate Zin >>> both. And while I enjoyed all 3, personally, I'd rather have 2 bottles of Rafanelli's for the price of any of them.The rattlesnake is worth it. Go.I got what I could, man. Last 3 bottles of the Old Vine and 3 of the final 6 of the Rattlesnake (They capped me at 6). I'm debating whether or not a return trip tomorrow is the way to go.Try and get the Dragon or Duarte...even the Dusi vineyards. Of course even their Juvie is light years better than most zins out there.Just bought some Turley Old Vine and Turley Rattlesnake Ridge Zins.
cosjobs
Footballguy
Try some Spanish Catalonia (Catalunya) reds, especially from Penedes, and even more especially from Jean Leon. My thinking on Cal and Aus is very much in line with yours- but now I'm a heavy into NE Spain, as well.
Sockmonkey
Footballguy
HV Sockmonkey Ranch, Burnt Orange Blush. My family label. Light, crisp, citrusy, summer wine.
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Black Sunshine
Footballguy
Villa Mt. Eden 2001 Zinfandel
msommer
Footballguy
On a recent trip I had some really good Shiraz from South Africa - I'm working on the logistics but I'll buy a couple of cases of the 2003 RAKA Shiraz.