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What role will Joe Webb have in Minnesota? (1 Viewer)
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Ministry of Pain
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Lemon Lime or Orange Mr. McNabb?
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Play maker? When and where has he shown evidence of this?
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Since they dropped the 3rd QB rule, he could see the field as sort of a Brad Smith-type player.
tdhartis
Footballguy
If you watched him in college at all you could definitely see the playmaking ability. Not to mention in the time he played last season I believe he did a good job of managing the game and making plays when he needed to. If I remember correctly he played well against the Eagles in their upset win and his first true start last season. This being said, I don't see him being a full time QB at this level but as others have touched on I can see him being utilized like a Brad Smith or Josh Cribbs.
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Warhogs
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Minnesota really likes Joe Webb and I agree that he is a playmaker. He was very impressive as a rookie in training camp and looked OK when forced into action last season. He was drafted last year with the intention of being switched to WR but they liked what he could do as a QB and left him there. With the moves they have made I would tend to agree with thriftyrocker. Webb will be the 3rd QB with the rule change and may get some opportunities to play a little WR and maybe some plays as a wildcat type QB. Probably not enough action each week though to be a viable fantasy football option. I like the players but I think he has minimal fantasy value.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Precisely. He could be fun to watch given the 1-2 times he's able to handle the ball per game (if that).
Sweet Love
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My guess is that many (not all) of the teams will have a player like this. It is a good point to bring up Thrifty, and it would not surprise me to see teams seek out guys with multiple skillsets to fill this QB3 role. For example, a Bledsoe-type would not make sense to keep in this role, but what if you had a third QB-type who could also punt (ala Danny White) or a big boy who could long snap. Since you brought up the change to the rule, do you happen to know whether the 1st, 2nd, 3rd QB hierarchy still exists?
Joe Summer
Footballguy
I think the elimination of the 3rd QB rule will lead to a lot of teams making their 3rd QB inactive on game days. They'd rather use the 46th roster spot for a player who actually plays on a regular basis.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
As far as the NFL rules go, there's no hierarchy. The active roster is now 46, and any QB can play at any time. You can put your 3rd QB in for a few plays, then bring your QB1 back in. It basically means they can use Webb as a wildcat QB at any time without weird injury scenarios. It could definitely help guys like Webb, Tyrod Taylor, etc.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/22/nfl-drops-third-quarterback-rule-46-active-players-on-game-day/
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
Don't know where all of the harshness is coming from.
Guy was drafted to be a WR, was forced into action as a starting QB, and did as well as most rooks do (and better than some).
If you don't see explosiveness in his game, you haven't seen him play. I know that is cliche around here, but it is the truth in this case. He's as good an athlete as you'll find in the NFL (or anywhere more than likely).
So the original question is a good one. It is hard to say whether they will try to continue to develop him as a QB, or whether they will move him to WR as originally intended. If they DO move him, he could be valuable under the right circumstances.
I can envision a scenario where he's a #2/#3 WR, and put in for trick plays/Wildcat or whatever at QB. He may not ever be a full-time starting QB, but I wouldn't write him off yet as having no value as a WR.
There is also still a SMALL chance he could end up a viable QB. McNabb got chased out of Washington for a reason, and while I like Ponder a lot and think he is the heavy favorite long-term (obviously), there is a chance he's not as advertised (we all know it happens), and Webb develops into a better QB. I wouldn't hold him for JUST this possibility, because it is small, but I do think it still exists.
He's just a flyer, probably for dynasty only, but I've been grabbing him very late in a lot of my deeper leagues.
Guy was drafted to be a WR, was forced into action as a starting QB, and did as well as most rooks do (and better than some).
If you don't see explosiveness in his game, you haven't seen him play. I know that is cliche around here, but it is the truth in this case. He's as good an athlete as you'll find in the NFL (or anywhere more than likely).
So the original question is a good one. It is hard to say whether they will try to continue to develop him as a QB, or whether they will move him to WR as originally intended. If they DO move him, he could be valuable under the right circumstances.
I can envision a scenario where he's a #2/#3 WR, and put in for trick plays/Wildcat or whatever at QB. He may not ever be a full-time starting QB, but I wouldn't write him off yet as having no value as a WR.
There is also still a SMALL chance he could end up a viable QB. McNabb got chased out of Washington for a reason, and while I like Ponder a lot and think he is the heavy favorite long-term (obviously), there is a chance he's not as advertised (we all know it happens), and Webb develops into a better QB. I wouldn't hold him for JUST this possibility, because it is small, but I do think it still exists.
He's just a flyer, probably for dynasty only, but I've been grabbing him very late in a lot of my deeper leagues.
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
If Joe Webb had any future in MN they would not have spent the 1st round pick on Ponder. Obviously MN does not see much in Webb.
With the WR position wide open right now, it wouldn't be surprising to see him move over into that position. Knowing the QB side of the game, he might be able to pick up more of the game than the average young WR MN might have to plug in.
With the WR position wide open right now, it wouldn't be surprising to see him move over into that position. Knowing the QB side of the game, he might be able to pick up more of the game than the average young WR MN might have to plug in.
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Funkley
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Teams take the best player at QB period. Taking Ponder wouldnt stop them from taking Luck if they could and like Luck more.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
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Joe Summer
Footballguy
"If he can't win a starting job then he'll be a bench player." That's some nice deep analysis there.
griff321
Footballguy
PA & Charch with Frazier
In this interview PA talks to Frazier about the dual role of the third string QB and all the creative ways he can be used, and Frazier alluded to the fact that's exactly how he'll be used. However, a lot hinges on Ponders ability to hold down the second spot.
In this interview PA talks to Frazier about the dual role of the third string QB and all the creative ways he can be used, and Frazier alluded to the fact that's exactly how he'll be used. However, a lot hinges on Ponders ability to hold down the second spot.
Clifford
Footballguy
point being his competition is weak and if he can't beat them out he has no shot anywhere in the NFL
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