What Will It Take For The US To Be Competitive In World Cup? (1 Viewer)

[SwampDawg]

I’m late to the conversation so sorry if this has been covered before but I disagree with soccer being “low cost”

My daughter has been playing since she was 4 or 5 (she is almost 15 now) . It started off being low cost, about $100 for a season. A “season” at the “rec” level was 6 to 8 games with one day of practice per week.

As she got better in the sport and wanted to play on a more competitive level that cost jumps to about 2K for a season – 8 to 10 games. Plus another $400 for uniforms. Plus travel cost to out of town tournaments.

Pay to play has been discussed as an issue over and over, but because of the lack of coaches with real experience it is pretty much required. I think the low cost was speaking more on the lower level and just getting involved. Baseball even at a local youth league level is more expensive, bats are $200, as someone who sits on the youth baseball board the field cost of maintaining fields is crazy with infield mix, quick dry, etc. Most local soccer clubs rent fields from schools or a local park at minimal cost of nets and lining.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

I’m late to the conversation so sorry if this has been covered before but I disagree with soccer being “low cost”

My daughter has been playing since she was 4 or 5 (she is almost 15 now) . It started off being low cost, about $100 for a season. A “season” at the “rec” level was 6 to 8 games with one day of practice per week.

As she got better in the sport and wanted to play on a more competitive level that cost jumps to about 2K for a season – 8 to 10 games. Plus another $400 for uniforms. Plus travel cost to out of town tournaments.

holy crap...$250 a game per kid...plus uniforms and travel expenses....you guys got more issues than I thought

 

[pantherclub]

yenrub how do they justify that?

 

[Yenrub]

yenrub how do they justify that?

In my opinion they don’t.

They do pay coaches at that level. There are 3 practices per week. There is a huge soccer complex with over 20 fields, some are turf fields.

I was a bit off on price for my daughters age group. Her age group fee is “just” $1400 plus $400 uniform plus travel.

It’s the age group below hers that is $1900 plus the $400 uniform

http://www.ncfcyouth.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1652298

 

[NewlyRetired]

In my opinion they don’t.

They do pay coaches at that level. There are 3 practices per week. There is a huge soccer complex with over 20 fields, some are turf fields.

I was a bit off on price for my daughters age group. Her age group fee is “just” $1400 plus $400 uniform plus travel.

It’s the age group below hers that is $1900 plus the $400 uniform

http://www.ncfcyouth.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1652298

yenrub, as a parent, is the hope that she is good enough some day to get a scholarship, even partial, to college, to more look at this as an investment and help justify the cost?

And I know club soccer has pretty much taken over the sport but are there also cheaper options from old rec soccer that most of us grew up with?

 

[Stinkin Ref]

In my opinion they don’t.

They do pay coaches at that level. There are 3 practices per week. There is a huge soccer complex with over 20 fields, some are turf fields.

I was a bit off on price for my daughters age group. Her age group fee is “just” $1400 plus $400 uniform plus travel.

It’s the age group below hers that is $1900 plus the $400 uniform

http://www.ncfcyouth.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1652298

not to be nosey....just trying to gain some perspective...at what age did she go from $100 a season to at least $1400+ a season...

I guess what I'm getting at is that if you spend let's say a total of $2500 a "season" including travel, uniforms, hotels, etc ($2500 might even be low).....and the goal kinda is just a scholarship or partial scholarship....after 5 years of "club" play you are already $12500 plus in the hole so to speak....and I'm not sure what the women's soccer scholarships look like at the collegiate level...is it common practice for full ride scholarship....is it only for say 3 of the 25 girls on the team....does it work like scholarships in other sports...some get a full ride, others may only get $1000 or something...not sure what roll Title IX plays in all that

 

[Yenrub]

yenrub, as a parent, is the hope that she is good enough some day to get a scholarship, even partial, to college, to more look at this as an investment and help justify the cost?

And I know club soccer has pretty much taken over the sport but are there also cheaper options from old rec soccer that most of us grew up with?

Dude I’m a “footballguy” I don’t need no stinking scholarship money 

In all seriousness though a scholarship would be nice but I started her playing sports so that she would have something to keep her busy after school and out of trouble. Chris Rock said daddy’s job is to keep his daughter off the poll. I view this as an expense to keep her off the poll. She is an only child so the cost is easier to handle. I can’t imagine how some of my ‘soccer’ friends pay for it with multiple kids playing.

She could play rec soccer and it would be much cheaper but she wouldn’t get anything out of it.

IMO she doesn’t work hard enough at the game to be a top level college prospect.

She has the one thing that all coaches drool over and that is speed, I don’t know soccer well enough to know if she is just getting by on speed alone. She typically plays attack/striker sometimes midfield but mostly center striker. She has great vision and always seems to make the right passes. Her footwork is good but not great she needs to work on “catching” balls out of the air with her feet.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

Dude I’m a “footballguy” I don’t need no stinking scholarship money 

In all seriousness though a scholarship would be nice but I started her playing sports so that she would have something to keep her busy after school and out of trouble. Chris Rock said daddy’s job is to keep his daughter off the poll. I view this as an expense to keep her off the poll. She is an only child so the cost is easier to handle. I can’t imagine how some of my ‘soccer’ friends pay for it with multiple kids playing.

She could play rec soccer and it would be much cheaper but she wouldn’t get anything out of it.

IMO she doesn’t work hard enough at the game to be a top level college prospect.

She has the one thing that all coaches drool over and that is speed, I don’t know soccer well enough to know if she is just getting by on speed alone. She typically plays attack/striker sometimes midfield but mostly center striker. She has great vision and always seems to make the right passes. Her footwork is good but not great she needs to work on “catching” balls out of the air with her feet.

this basically answers my question...you don't need to respond...thanks...

 

[msommer]

Dude I’m a “footballguy” I don’t need no stinking scholarship money 

In all seriousness though a scholarship would be nice but I started her playing sports so that she would have something to keep her busy after school and out of trouble. Chris Rock said daddy’s job is to keep his daughter off the poll. I view this as an expense to keep her off the poll. She is an only child so the cost is easier to handle. I can’t imagine how some of my ‘soccer’ friends pay for it with multiple kids playing.

She could play rec soccer and it would be much cheaper but she wouldn’t get anything out of it.

IMO she doesn’t work hard enough at the game to be a top level college prospect.

She has the one thing that all coaches drool over and that is speed, I don’t know soccer well enough to know if she is just getting by on speed alone. She typically plays attack/striker sometimes midfield but mostly center striker. She has great vision and always seems to make the right passes. Her footwork is good but not great she needs to work on “catching” balls out of the air with her feet.

My daughter played defense on speed. When she played she was generally smaller than the offensive players on the other team but she enjoyed darting in, picking the ball from them and zooming away, that and giving the bigger girls shoulder tackles so they went flying. Leverage is a ##### man!

Good times, then she started getting weak knees and now she no longer plays. Pity.

 

[NewlyRetired]

not to be nosey....just trying to gain some perspective...at what age did she go from $100 a season to at least $1400+ a season...

I guess what I'm getting at is that if you spend let's say a total of $2500 a "season" including travel, uniforms, hotels, etc ($2500 might even be low).....and the goal kinda is just a scholarship or partial scholarship....after 5 years of "club" play you are already $12500 plus in the hole so to speak....and I'm not sure what the women's soccer scholarships look like at the collegiate level...is it common practice for full ride scholarship....is it only for say 3 of the 25 girls on the team....does it work like scholarships in other sports...some get a full ride, others may only get $1000 or something...not sure what roll Title IX plays in all that

I just looked this up:

For women's programs there are a maximum of 14 scholarships for a DI team, 9.9 for DII, 12 for NAIA programs and a fully funded NJCAA program has up to 18 scholarships per team. 

The amounts of money range greatly from school to school.  Some are full rides, some are small, and a lot in between.

 

[gianmarco]

In my opinion they don’t.

They do pay coaches at that level. There are 3 practices per week. There is a huge soccer complex with over 20 fields, some are turf fields.

I was a bit off on price for my daughters age group. Her age group fee is “just” $1400 plus $400 uniform plus travel.

It’s the age group below hers that is $1900 plus the $400 uniform

http://www.ncfcyouth.com/Default.aspx?tabid=1652298

For those complaining of the price tag, welcome to having kids nowadays. It sucks.

Even for summer, sending a kid off to a weekly camp can run $300-400 easy. Over the summer, that alone is the cost of a club season.

 

[msommer]

You know - maybe some star training would be good. 

Like pick you most talented teens, make them stay in a submerged cave fr a few weeks while the rest of the world is uncertain if they are alive. Send in the Navy Seals, and WALA - there you have your future stars!

Too soon?

 

[The Gator]

My daughter played defense on speed. When she played she was generally smaller than the offensive players on the other team but she enjoyed darting in, picking the ball from them and zooming away, that and giving the bigger girls shoulder tackles so they went flying. Leverage is a ##### man!

Good times, then she started getting weak knees and now she no longer plays. Pity.

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[Yenrub]

For those complaining of the price tag, welcome to having kids nowadays. It sucks.

Even for summer, sending a kid off to a weekly camp can run $300-400 easy. Over the summer, that alone is the cost of a club season.

Last summer we let our daughter go to overnight camp at UNC-Wilmington, about 2 hours from home. The camp was $550.

Silly me though we were going to drop the kid off for 3 days come back when camp was over. My wife had other ideas. “I can’t leave my baby so far away we need to be close in case she needs us”. She didn’t need us but it cost me an additional $150 per night.

 

[Yenrub]

I just looked this up:

For women's programs there are a maximum of 14 scholarships for a DI team, 9.9 for DII, 12 for NAIA programs and a fully funded NJCAA program has up to 18 scholarships per team. 

The amounts of money range greatly from school to school.  Some are full rides, some are small, and a lot in between.

So you’re saying there’s a chance for me to recoup some of this soccer expense

Thanks for posting this.