What would you do if you were the commish? (1 Viewer)

[ponchsox]

Here is the situation:

Our draft was Friday night and waivers are locked until the Tuesday following week one games. Our league allows 8 add/drops during the season. Our league's waiver wire closes Nov 4th. We have an "injury exception" rule that states after Nov. 4th. a team, due to injury, does not have enough healthy players on his/her roster to complete a starting lineup. In other words, the player has to be declared out for the start of the game and you don't have another player of the same position on your roster (Kicker, QB, etc)

A team in the league drafted Bullock from Houston as their kicker. They are asking to use their injury exception to replace Bullock since he was declared out for the season today. They feel they have an unfair advantage heading into week one and wants to use their exception now.

Another tidbit, the team asking for the exception is playing the commissioner week one and they are in the same division.

What would you do as the commissioner?

 

[Captain Hook]

I don't see anything that allows the guy to make a change before the schedule waivers after Week 1 or any reason he should be allowed to - WHAT is the question?

 

[Wild Young Billy]

It's fantasy football, let him pick up a stupid kicker.

 

[zandbak]

A drafted kicker being put on IR before the season starts is pretty damn rare. I don't see the issue of letting the guy pick up a new kicker for free. It's not like you'll run into this issue ever again.

I understand the whole following rules thing, but in this case I'd make an exception.

 

[doeseatplace]

Agreed, he has to wait per the rules.Also, with rules like these that limit add/drops and lock rosters until after week one, it was downright silly to select a kicker who is in a legitimate camp competition (HOU, BAL, WAS, NYJ, SDC, NOS, CAR)...Bullock could have also been cut.

I don't see anything that allows the guy to make a change before the schedule waivers after Week 1 or any reason he should be allowed to - WHAT is the question?

 

[Manster]

seems like a flaw in the rules. you should be able to use your injury exception for any week. commish changes the rule to include week one. simple

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

I don't think any league I play in would have a problem letting the guy trade out kickers. If someone does, you gotta let him wait till after week 1.

 

[ponchsox]

seems like a flaw in the rules. you should be able to use your injury exception for any week. commish changes the rule to include week one. simple

Agreed and this is a unique situation. I think the team should be allowed to use it now because the rule was created for this exact scenario.

 

[Sarnoff]

Your stupid league is stupid.

 

[flc735]

if it says only after nov 4th, then no. he cannot

 

[Soulfly3]

It's an effing kicker.

Some of you must lead miserable lives.

 

[ponchsox]

if it says only after nov 4th, then no. he cannot

It doesn't say ONLY after Nov 4th.Our league's waivers lock after Nov 4th and no more add/drops can be made. This is why the injury exception was created so a team can make one injury move when waivers are locked.

 

[Mr.Pack]

WOW! 8 whole adds/drops per year?????

Where do I sign up?!?!?!?

 

[Captain Hook]

if it says only after nov 4th, then no. he cannot

It doesn't say ONLY after Nov 4th.Our league's waivers lock after Nov 4th and no more add/drops can be made. This is why the injury exception was created so a team can make one injury move when waivers are locked.

But it also doesn't say BEFORE waivers start - the injury exception was not created so someone could fix a draft mistake

 

[Mr.Pack]

Your stupid league is stupid.

stoopid two

 

[Abspara]

Your stupid league is stupid.

It's just a kicker

 

[ponchsox]

Yeah, it's a 15 year old work league with outdated rules. Still fun though.

 

[pittstownkiller]

He has to follow the exact rules; he should also be made to pay the legal fees of his opponent and the league, in addition to punitive damages so he doesn't try this malarkey again.

 

[Ilov80s]

Why is everything locked? Fix that silly rule and there is no problem.

 

[Mario Kart]

I'd tell him to draft two kickers next time.

 

[Hang 10]

Your stupid league is stupid.

It's an effing kicker.Some of you must lead miserable lives.

 

[kutta]

I still don't understand the rule. But I am in the camp that says whatever the rules say is what he should do.

It doesn't matter if it is "just a kicker." You can't make exceptions because you start a precedent that is hard to reverse.

Change the rule next year if you guys don't like it, but for this year, follow what is written.

 

[renesauz]

I'd let him get a new kicker...but it counts as one of his 8 roster moves. Your rules are written to allow the exception after your deadline...not before the season starts.

ETA: I also concur with the folks saying your rules are stupid and should be fixed. This is an obvious hole in them.

 

[VaTerp]

Why is everything locked? Fix that silly rule and there is no problem.

That's the part I don't understand. My main league has a limit on FA pickups too. 10 for the season. It's a big incentive for trades and works very well for us.But there is no waiver wire or waiver period whatsoever. Its first come first serve from the moment the draft ends.I see no point in having a limit on FA pickups for the year AND locking players until after week 1. Makes no sense.

 

[bigfoamfinger]

The job of the commissioner is to address these "unique" situations when they come up. Let him have a kicker, but it counts against his moves and update the rules in case it happens again.

 

[daveR]

So he goes one week with zero kicker points. Big deal. Follow the rules.

 

[Warrior]

Your stupid league is stupid.

It's an effing kicker.Some of you must lead miserable lives.

 

[Wrigley]

Who only drafts 1 kicker when you can only make 8 moves?

How deep are your benches?

 

[Johnny Blood]

The job of the commissioner is to address these "unique" situations when they come up. Let him have a kicker, but it counts against his moves and update the rules in case it happens again.

What exactly is unique about a player being injured between the draft and the first game? Nothing.The rules are crystal clear. They are awful rules IMO, and I'd hate the league, but they are clear.If something this obvious is the commissioner's job to "address" then the rules mean nothing, everything is up for debate, and his job is a pain in the butt. I mean is it even possible to agree to this rule without realizing an early injury is costly? Why write the rule and then create an exception to undermine the whole essence of the rule?I'm just surprised you can fill a league with these rules...

 

[netnalp]

According to the rules he can't get a new kicker till after the week one games.

Seems like it's more a question if the owners like having rules that can cause an owner to have a disadvantage. Or if the league feels that the possibility of this happening wasn't considered when making the rule and wants to change the rule.

If I were running it, I wouldn't want an owner to be at a disadvantage due to what seems to be a poorly thought out rule. Fairness would be more important than sticking to a poor rule choice. I wouldn't make an exception, I would rewrite the rule so it has the desired affect.

 

[Johnny Blood]

You can't rewrite this crappy rule after the draft because anyone who thinks strategically drafted with this rule in mind! Talk about unfair.

 

[ponchsox]

Commish ruled against his request, I think he can survive week one without a kicker. The bigger issue is the rediculous waiver rules in my league.

 

[SWC]

the commishoner can not change the rules because one guy got a bad deal that is the rules and you have to dance with the girl that brung you but unfortunately for your leauge that girl is about three bills and probably has a mustache and smells bad man those are some wacky rules and i would try to get them changed so that they are more like rules from leagues that are good and i support having extra bonus points for tds scored on gaget plays so take that right to the bank brohans

 

[Freedonia]

Here is the situation:Our draft was Friday night and waivers are locked until the Tuesday following week one games. Our league allows 8 add/drops during the season. Our league's waiver wire closes Nov 4th. We have an "injury exception" rule that states after Nov. 4th. a team, due to injury, does not have enough healthy players on his/her roster to complete a starting lineup. In other words, the player has to be declared out for the start of the game and you don't have another player of the same position on your roster (Kicker, QB, etc)A team in the league drafted Bullock from Houston as their kicker. They are asking to use their injury exception to replace Bullock since he was declared out for the season today. They feel they have an unfair advantage heading into week one and wants to use their exception now.Another tidbit, the team asking for the exception is playing the commissioner week one and they are in the same division.What would you do as the commissioner?

I do not know how long your league has been in existence, but I would let the guy make the change. Then I would change your rules before it kills your league.

 

[Billy Bats]

Why even bother with rules?? It's always amazing to me when people say let him have the kicker, or it's just a kicker what's the big deal?

Rules are in place for a reason. He knew the rules going into the draft, he should've drafted two kickers anyway with only 8 pickups allowed the whole season. Can't change rules on the fly, make a note of it and discuss to make changes for next season. As commissioner I would've voted no to letting him pickup another kicker as well.

 

[ponchsox]

Why even bother with rules?? It's always amazing to me when people say let him have the kicker, or it's just a kicker what's the big deal? Rules are in place for a reason. He knew the rules going into the draft, he should've drafted two kickers anyway with only 8 pickups allowed the whole season. Can't change rules on the fly, make a note of it and discuss to make changes for next season. As commissioner I would've voted no to letting him pickup another kicker as well.

There are only 7 bench spots and 8 waiver moves allowed so hardly anyone drafts a backup kicker. The same thing happened last year to a team with Garret Hartley.

 

[netnalp]

Why even bother with rules?? It's always amazing to me when people say let him have the kicker, or it's just a kicker what's the big deal? Rules are in place for a reason. He knew the rules going into the draft, he should've drafted two kickers anyway with only 8 pickups allowed the whole season. Can't change rules on the fly, make a note of it and discuss to make changes for next season. As commissioner I would've voted no to letting him pickup another kicker as well.

There are only 7 bench spots and 8 waiver moves allowed so hardly anyone drafts a backup kicker. The same thing happened last year to a team with Garret Hartley.

Then the guy is just won't have a kicker. If the league didn't like the rule they should have changed it before this years draft having the knowledge of last season.

 

[Billy Bats]

Why even bother with rules?? It's always amazing to me when people say let him have the kicker, or it's just a kicker what's the big deal? Rules are in place for a reason. He knew the rules going into the draft, he should've drafted two kickers anyway with only 8 pickups allowed the whole season. Can't change rules on the fly, make a note of it and discuss to make changes for next season. As commissioner I would've voted no to letting him pickup another kicker as well.

There are only 7 bench spots and 8 waiver moves allowed so hardly anyone drafts a backup kicker. The same thing happened last year to a team with Garret Hartley.

Wow, so 2 waiver moves are most likely used on a bye week kicker and defense? So really 6 moves all year? That's silly. You guys playing for money, and if so, don't you guys like money(bigger pot)?

 

[ponchsox]

Why even bother with rules?? It's always amazing to me when people say let him have the kicker, or it's just a kicker what's the big deal? Rules are in place for a reason. He knew the rules going into the draft, he should've drafted two kickers anyway with only 8 pickups allowed the whole season. Can't change rules on the fly, make a note of it and discuss to make changes for next season. As commissioner I would've voted no to letting him pickup another kicker as well.

There are only 7 bench spots and 8 waiver moves allowed so hardly anyone drafts a backup kicker. The same thing happened last year to a team with Garret Hartley.

Wow, so 2 waiver moves are most likely used on a bye week kicker and defense? So really 6 moves all year? That's silly. You guys playing for money, and if so, don't you guys like money(bigger pot)?

I guess you can say it's no different than quirky rules/scoring in other leagues. This really puts an emphasis on drafting and finding the sleepers ahead of time. It makes you really think about the waiver moves you make (Is this scrub RB really worth it?)

 

[Soulfly3]

In a "game" in which we apparently try to mimic the actual sport, people sure make it a point to make the most asinine rules that, in my opinion, kills the fun of FF.

I'm part of a LONG running league, with nothing but close buddies. We play for a pretty juicy pot each year. NONE of us would have any issue making an exception for a guy to make a move that would COMPLETE HIS ROSTER.

Some of these rules man.... I just don't get it.

 

[This_Guy]

if it says only after nov 4th, then no. he cannot

It doesn't say ONLY after Nov 4th.Our league's waivers lock after Nov 4th and no more add/drops can be made. This is why the injury exception was created so a team can make one injury move when waivers are locked.

I say follow the rule. I'd like to see how the rule is written though because it sounds like it might be within the rules to allow him to pick up a new kicker.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

As a commish I say you HAVE to follow the rule as its written. If you want it changed then put it to a vote this year (since there's plenty of time before the season starts) or start it next year.

 

[Soulfly3]

I draft so well Id let my opponent start 2 QBs.

We're talking about a kicker... a kicker, man!

Give the damn guy his kicker.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

pretty dumb to draft 2 weeks ahead with no ww/fa in between. i think u should allow him 2 add a kicker.the post nov 4 th rules technically apply (ww is closed and it is after nov 4...) but moreso in spirit. the intent is 4 all teams to field a full lineup. its unfair for the other 8-14 owners that the comish would play a team with 1 less players.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

if it says only after nov 4th, then no. he cannot

It doesn't say ONLY after Nov 4th.Our league's waivers lock after Nov 4th and no more add/drops can be made. This is why the injury exception was created so a team can make one injury move when waivers are locked.

But it also doesn't say BEFORE waivers start - the injury exception was not created so someone could fix a draft mistake

the spirit of the rule is clearly to allow teams to field full lineups in cases of injury when the ww is locked. that is precisely what is happening here.

 

[Sam Quentin]

dumb rule

I'd suggest making a tweak that does not impact how people draft.

If anything I'd give him the Houston K, rather than giving him the pick of the litter.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Let him swap him for Cundiff.

But seriously... if you guys want to keep the limited WW and no moves between draft and season, at least change the drafting of PKs to "Houston PK" instead of having to name a guy who may get hurt or beaten out in pre-season competition. I'm sure the Cundiff owner (if there is one... must not be or you would have brought the issue up with him too) isn't real happy either.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Why even bother with rules?? It's always amazing to me when people say let him have the kicker, or it's just a kicker what's the big deal? Rules are in place for a reason. He knew the rules going into the draft, he should've drafted two kickers anyway with only 8 pickups allowed the whole season. Can't change rules on the fly, make a note of it and discuss to make changes for next season. As commissioner I would've voted no to letting him pickup another kicker as well.

There are only 7 bench spots and 8 waiver moves allowed so hardly anyone drafts a backup kicker. The same thing happened last year to a team with Garret Hartley.

then clearly the answer is whatever u did then