What would you do? (1 Viewer)

[bweiser]

An owner in your league is staring at taking a zero from his QB position because he has Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tom Brady and Jason Campbell.

Do you try to make a trade with the guy or do you let him take the zero?

The reason I'm asking is because I have those three QBs and can't even get a response to see if anyone would make a deal. One guy has Cassel, Brees, McCoy and Stafford. Would it really hurt him to give up Cassel? The funny thing is, I would have won last week with a zero from the QB spot. Not sure I can pull it off two weeks in a row.

I'm a little disgusted by the inability to make a deal in this league.

Dynasty league. 12 teams by the way.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

edit: had my smilies wrong

ps

try offering him brady for cassel

 

[D'OHtis]

Owner perspective: I'm just worried about my own team -- not yours.

Would it hurt you to just pick up Beck or Whitehurst? (Assuming Palmer was rostered perhaps)

No one owes it to you to deal. (And I think many owners think you have to deal in a dynasty league in order to make it fun)

 

[DangerMonkey]

An owner in your league is staring at taking a zero from his QB position because he has Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tom Brady and Jason Campbell. Do you try to make a trade with the guy or do you let him take the zero? The reason I'm asking is because I have those three QBs and can't even get a response to see if anyone would make a deal. One guy has Cassel, Brees, McCoy and Stafford. Would it really hurt him to give up Cassel? The funny thing is, I would have won last week with a zero from the QB spot. Not sure I can pull it off two weeks in a row.I'm a little disgusted by the inability to make a deal in this league.Dynasty league. 12 teams by the way.

I don't trade with him just to be a nice guy, but if we can put something together that benefits both teams, then sure. I'd certainly be looking at that team for help if I had a glut of QBs and needed a guy at another position, or thought I could get Fitz away from him since he already has Brady.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Would it really hurt him to give up Cassel?

You're asking the wrong question.

 

[bweiser]

Owner perspective: I'm just worried about my own team -- not yours.

Would it hurt you to just pick up Beck or Whitehurst? (Assuming Palmer was rostered perhaps)

No one owes it to you to deal. (And I think many owners think you have to deal in a dynasty league in order to make it fun)

Missed out on Beck in FAAB ... Whitehurst rostered ... missed out on Palmer in FAAB.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Also, ptts

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

Ponder?

 

[FUBAR]

If you really want to make a deal, make him an offer he can't refuse.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Owner perspective: I'm just worried about my own team -- not yours.

Would it hurt you to just pick up Beck or Whitehurst? (Assuming Palmer was rostered perhaps)

No one owes it to you to deal. (And I think many owners think you have to deal in a dynasty league in order to make it fun)

Missed out on Beck in FAAB ... Whitehurst rostered ... missed out on Palmer in FAAB.

So then, its your fault. You had opportunities already to fix this.If you're a team in contention, and you're about to take a zero at QB, why would they trade with you, unless it was a great deal for them? Its against their best interests.

Now, from your last sentence of the OP, it sounds like its tough to get a deal done in this league anyways. Now that sucks, and I wouldn't want to be in that league, but now's not the time to vent about it. If anything, that should have made you MORE aggressive in fixing this problem in FAAB. Because you should have known that you weren't going to be getting a trade done easily.

But just from a strategic point of view, I wouldn't trade with you if I was another contending team. Its tough to get much for a guy like Cassel anyways, so if I couldn't fleece you, I'd rather just watch you start with a 20-point handicap this week (really more like 30, with Brady), as your competitor for the playoffs, etc. Its understandable.

 

[Apple Jack]

Owner perspective: I'm just worried about my own team -- not yours.

Would it hurt you to just pick up Beck or Whitehurst? (Assuming Palmer was rostered perhaps)

No one owes it to you to deal. (And I think many owners think you have to deal in a dynasty league in order to make it fun)

Missed out on Beck in FAAB ... Whitehurst rostered ... missed out on Palmer in FAAB.

So then, its your fault. You had opportunities already to fix this.If you're a team in contention, and you're about to take a zero at QB, why would they anyone with you, unless it was a great deal for them? Its against their best interests.

Now, from your last sentence of the OP, it sounds like its tough to get a deal done in this league anyways. Now that sucks, and I wouldn't want to be in that league, but now's not the time to vent about it. If anything, that should have made you MORE aggressive in fixing this problem in FAAB. Because you should have known that you weren't going to be getting a trade done easily.

But just from a strategic point of view, I wouldn't trade with you if I was another contending team. Its tough to get much for a guy like Cassel anyways, so if I couldn't fleece you, I'd rather just watch you start with a 20-point handicap this week (really more like 30, with Brady), as your competitor for the playoffs, etc. Its understandable.

I agree on every point. So there are no more starting QBs on the ww? How deep are your benches if the only two teams you've referenced in your 12 team league have (had) seven decent to great starting QBs between them? Obviously, this other guy hoards QBs for exactly this consequence. Of course he's not looking to help you.

 

[DoubleG]

What would I do?

 

[fightingillini]

Owner perspective: I'm just worried about my own team -- not yours.

Would it hurt you to just pick up Beck or Whitehurst? (Assuming Palmer was rostered perhaps)

No one owes it to you to deal. (And I think many owners think you have to deal in a dynasty league in order to make it fun)

Missed out on Beck in FAAB ... Whitehurst rostered ... missed out on Palmer in FAAB.

So then, its your fault. You had opportunities already to fix this.If you're a team in contention, and you're about to take a zero at QB, why would they trade with you, unless it was a great deal for them? Its against their best interests.

Now, from your last sentence of the OP, it sounds like its tough to get a deal done in this league anyways. Now that sucks, and I wouldn't want to be in that league, but now's not the time to vent about it. If anything, that should have made you MORE aggressive in fixing this problem in FAAB. Because you should have known that you weren't going to be getting a trade done easily.

But just from a strategic point of view, I wouldn't trade with you if I was another contending team. Its tough to get much for a guy like Cassel anyways, so if I couldn't fleece you, I'd rather just watch you start with a 20-point handicap this week (really more like 30, with Brady), as your competitor for the playoffs, etc. Its understandable.

It's too bad that Brady and Fitzpatrick share a bye and Campbell got hurt. But you needed to do whatever it takes to get Beck or Palmer with a very aggressive bid.

This is happening in one of my redraft leagues......an opponent has Vick and Eli Manning on bye and McNabb got benched. I have Flacco on my bench and he asked about acquiring him. I made an 2 for 2 deal involving Flacco and I get Gronkowski (I am weak at TE).....he said no way, Gronkowski's a stud. I said, "sorry dude, guess you're taking a zero at QB this week. If you want Flacco, Gronkowski has to be part of the deal." Talks ended right there.

As others have said, nobody will trade with you in this spot unless they are clearly getting the better end of the deal.

 

[footballnerd]

Joe Webb? Brad Smith? get at least a couple of snaps

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Looks like you got your answer of what everyone in your league thought about your little predicament in Free Agent bidding.

Will keep your fantasy team in my T&P's.

 

[Deamon]

What about grabbing St. Louis' backup qb just in case. Or making an offer for someones back ups but giving up a bit of value. Or take zero at qb but that's your risk. You have those options, it's no one else's fault.

 

[bonesman]

Try to find someone in your league who would benefit from the team you're playing losing. Use that as your selling angle.

 

[glumpy]

I'm going to come in from the other angle and guess that overall you've got a good team. Figure that would explain why nobody wants to deal? In any case it makes for a good talking point.

Bite the bullet and play it out. If there's really Nobody available on the wire the other owners are in the catbird seat and they're going to want to fleece you. If you're in good enough shape this season in a dynasty league then you really don't want to lose anyone off your roster for one game anyway. As long as your league rules don't force you to take a hit for a full roster this week then go for it and hope for the best.

 

[bweiser]

Owner perspective: I'm just worried about my own team -- not yours.

Would it hurt you to just pick up Beck or Whitehurst? (Assuming Palmer was rostered perhaps)

No one owes it to you to deal. (And I think many owners think you have to deal in a dynasty league in order to make it fun)

Missed out on Beck in FAAB ... Whitehurst rostered ... missed out on Palmer in FAAB.

So then, its your fault. You had opportunities already to fix this.If you're a team in contention, and you're about to take a zero at QB, why would they trade with you, unless it was a great deal for them? Its against their best interests.

Now, from your last sentence of the OP, it sounds like its tough to get a deal done in this league anyways. Now that sucks, and I wouldn't want to be in that league, but now's not the time to vent about it. If anything, that should have made you MORE aggressive in fixing this problem in FAAB. Because you should have known that you weren't going to be getting a trade done easily.

But just from a strategic point of view, I wouldn't trade with you if I was another contending team. Its tough to get much for a guy like Cassel anyways, so if I couldn't fleece you, I'd rather just watch you start with a 20-point handicap this week (really more like 30, with Brady), as your competitor for the playoffs, etc. Its understandable.

It's too bad that Brady and Fitzpatrick share a bye and Campbell got hurt. But you needed to do whatever it takes to get Beck or Palmer with a very aggressive bid.

This is happening in one of my redraft leagues......an opponent has Vick and Eli Manning on bye and McNabb got benched. I have Flacco on my bench and he asked about acquiring him. I made an 2 for 2 deal involving Flacco and I get Gronkowski (I am weak at TE).....he said no way, Gronkowski's a stud. I said, "sorry dude, guess you're taking a zero at QB this week. If you want Flacco, Gronkowski has to be part of the deal." Talks ended right there.

As others have said, nobody will trade with you in this spot unless they are clearly getting the better end of the deal.

i bid my max on both and got outbid ... i grabbed aj feeley in case bradford doesn't play ...

i've now been offered colt mccoy in exchange for ryan fitzpatrick. probably going to take it.

 

[The Comedian]

Keep us posted.

 

[Stealthycat]

I would try and trade you - and because you've painted yourself into a corner, make you pay a bit for doing it. Capitalize on your situation to make my team better

 

[RTB1]

Run the Wildcat all game long!

 

[DoubleG]

Shark move = take the zero at QB, win anyway, then REMEMBER WHO REFUSED TO TRADE WITH YOU. Then every time they send you a trade offer - forever - ask about obtaining a QB to cover your bye weeks.

 

[Insein]

Ask for my money back and Quit the league. Thats outrageous. Let me know how that goes.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Ask for my money back and Quit the league. Thats outrageous. Let me know how that goes.

Sarcasm?

 

[BroadwayG]

What are you offering for Castle?

 

[solorca]

Someone in my league is having the same problem right now. I have Sanchez and offered him up for Torrey Smith, just to help him out...but his response was that Sanchez is not worth giving up on an up and coming player. Now, he can't find anyone else to trade with him and he is trying to make that deal with me again. Too late, I want Colston now.

That's what happens when you aren't willing to pay for what you need.

 

[Captain Hook]

This does bring up a point that applies to several questions in the AC Forum and some that manage to stay here. WHAT were YOU doing in the first six weeks of the season? Enjoying the fact that you had Brady and Fitzpatrick? Unless it is a 2QB or Flex QB option league that you didn't mention, you totally wasted your time in the beginning of the season KNOWING that in Week 7 you would have to rely on Jason Campbell - or worse. You likely could have made a good deal for Fitzpatrick several weeks ago but weren't sharp enough to do it.

 

[bweiser]

This does bring up a point that applies to several questions in the AC Forum and some that manage to stay here. WHAT were YOU doing in the first six weeks of the season? Enjoying the fact that you had Brady and Fitzpatrick? Unless it is a 2QB or Flex QB option league that you didn't mention, you totally wasted your time in the beginning of the season KNOWING that in Week 7 you would have to rely on Jason Campbell - or worse. You likely could have made a good deal for Fitzpatrick several weeks ago but weren't sharp enough to do it.

jason campbell had a good matchup this week. why would i try to make a deal that i didn't have to?

 

[bonesman]

This does bring up a point that applies to several questions in the AC Forum and some that manage to stay here. WHAT were YOU doing in the first six weeks of the season? Enjoying the fact that you had Brady and Fitzpatrick? Unless it is a 2QB or Flex QB option league that you didn't mention, you totally wasted your time in the beginning of the season KNOWING that in Week 7 you would have to rely on Jason Campbell - or worse. You likely could have made a good deal for Fitzpatrick several weeks ago but weren't sharp enough to do it.

jason campbell had a good matchup this week. why would i try to make a deal that i didn't have to?

to improve your team.

 

[urbanhack]

good info here

 

[Warhogs]

Try to find someone in your league who would benefit from the team you're playing losing. Use that as your selling angle.

This is the correct answer. Offer a fair trade to a team that would benefit by you beating your opponent this week (the teams in your opponents division). They should be willing to have you help hang a loss to a team in their division. Now, if you are in the same division and you are considered more of a threat than your opponent you are probably screwed and may have to overpay to fill the QB spot.

 

[eric rymer]

This does bring up a point that applies to several questions in the AC Forum and some that manage to stay here. WHAT were YOU doing in the first six weeks of the season? Enjoying the fact that you had Brady and Fitzpatrick? Unless it is a 2QB or Flex QB option league that you didn't mention, you totally wasted your time in the beginning of the season KNOWING that in Week 7 you would have to rely on Jason Campbell - or worse. You likely could have made a good deal for Fitzpatrick several weeks ago but weren't sharp enough to do it.

jason campbell had a good matchup this week. why would i try to make a deal that i didn't have to?

either way. when Brady and Fitz were having great starts you really should have looked to move one to improve in other weak areas. I've seen more than one on Twitter today that Palmer is looking like he might not start (don't remember who tweeted it). Boller might not be a bad start against KC and highly doubt he is rostered. With the way your wire sounds you have slim pickens.EditFootball_GuysJoe BryantRT @AdamSchefter: Two people familiar with situation believe it is unlikely Carson Palmer will start Sunday.

 

[Captain Hook]

This does bring up a point that applies to several questions in the AC Forum and some that manage to stay here. WHAT were YOU doing in the first six weeks of the season? Enjoying the fact that you had Brady and Fitzpatrick? Unless it is a 2QB or Flex QB option league that you didn't mention, you totally wasted your time in the beginning of the season KNOWING that in Week 7 you would have to rely on Jason Campbell - or worse. You likely could have made a good deal for Fitzpatrick several weeks ago but weren't sharp enough to do it.

jason campbell had a good matchup this week. why would i try to make a deal that i didn't have to?

Well one reason was that Jason Campbell having a good matchup doesn't make him a good quarterback play.The more important reason which you must have missed is that you weren't getting full value out of either Brady or Fitzpatrick - that could have been translated into a better RB/WR/TE and another starting quarterback with a different week off.

 

[scott72]

So what really happened is you offered him garbage for Cassel, he declined, and your upset thinking he should take your garbage because he's got 3 other QB's?

 

[bweiser]

So what really happened is you offered him garbage for Cassel, he declined, and your upset thinking he should take your garbage because he's got 3 other QB's?

not at all. i started off offering a draft pick ... i said, i have no idea what you'd want for cassel. let me know what you need or want. didn't offer him 'garbage' per se but i made an offer to get 'negotitations' started.it worked because i wound up trading him fitzpatrick for mccoy.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

So what really happened is you offered him garbage for Cassel, he declined, and your upset thinking he should take your garbage because he's got 3 other QB's?

not at all. i started off offering a draft pick ... i said, i have no idea what you'd want for cassel. let me know what you need or want. didn't offer him 'garbage' per se but i made an offer to get 'negotitations' started.it worked because i wound up trading him fitzpatrick for mccoy.

What about Carson Palmer; I recently read that the Oakland Raiders traded for him. I doubt anyone would have him and he might be a good fill-in this weekend.

 

[bweiser]

So what really happened is you offered him garbage for Cassel, he declined, and your upset thinking he should take your garbage because he's got 3 other QB's?

not at all. i started off offering a draft pick ... i said, i have no idea what you'd want for cassel. let me know what you need or want. didn't offer him 'garbage' per se but i made an offer to get 'negotitations' started.it worked because i wound up trading him fitzpatrick for mccoy.

What about Carson Palmer; I recently read that the Oakland Raiders traded for him. I doubt anyone would have him and he might be a good fill-in this weekend.

posts 6 and 19 and now palmer probably isn't starting.