What's up with Buffalo play selection? (1 Viewer)

[moleculo]

Here are all offnesive plays fun by the Bills w/ Fitzpatrick, not counting special teams or penalties:

1-10-BUF35 (13:26) (Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick sacked at BUF 30 for -5 yards (R.Kerrigan).2-15-BUF30 (12:57) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass short left to St.Johnson to BUF 41 for 11 yards (J.Wilson). Caught in flat at BUF 40.3-4-BUF41 (12:16) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass incomplete short left to F.Jackson (J.Wilson) [P.Riley]. Hook pattern; receiver and coveraqe at BUF 44.1-10-WAS21 (10:53) (Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass incomplete short right to Do.Jones (B.Meriweather). Pass tipped at WAS 12, receiver several yards upfield.2-10-WAS21 (10:48) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass short middle to Do.Jones to WAS 15 for 6 yards (B.Meriweather). Caught at WAS 16. hook pattern.3-14-WAS25 (9:45) (Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass incomplete short left to C.Spiller (J.Wilson). Thrown behind receiver at WAS 23, crossing to middle.1-10-BUF9 (5:50) (Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass short right to C.Spiller to BUF 11 for 2 yards (D.Hall). Screen pass, caught at BUF 7.2-8-BUF11 (5:13) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass deep middle to S.Chandler to BUF 37 for 26 yards (B.Meriweather). Caught in coveraqe at BUF 34.1-10-BUF37 (4:40) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass short right to St.Johnson to BUF 47 for 10 yards (D.Hall). Caught at BUF 42, slanting to middle.1-10-BUF47 (4:02) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass incomplete short right to St.Johnson (R.Kerrigan). Pass batted at line.2-10-BUF47 (3:59) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass incomplete deep left to D.Hagan. Overthrown, receiver along sideline at WAS 32.3-10-BUF47 (3:54) (Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass incomplete short right to St.Johnson. Overthrown, receiver near sideline at WAS 33.1-10-WAS47 (2:48) (Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass incomplete deep right to S.Chandler. Overthrown, receiver at WAS 31, slanting from middle.2-15-BUF48 (2:44) (Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass short middle to S.Chandler to WAS 46 for 6 yards (B.Kehl). Caught at WAS 48.3-9-WAS46 (2:06) (No Huddle, Shotgun) R.Fitzpatrick pass incomplete short middle to St.Johnson. Overthrown, receiver fell at WAS 31.
What's up with that? I don't follow Buffalo closely so this was a bit of a shock to me. Was this anticipated? Watching the game, they went 4 and 5 wide frequently, and no huddle. It was like run and shoot all over again. Is this what the Bills will be doing come regular season?

If so, it makes Fred Jackson someone I really, really don't want to draft in the first 8 rounds.

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

Maybe they just want to get fitzpatrick the work. Plus they can rest spiller and Jackson

 

[ctrlaltdefeat]

If Jackson is available in the 7th I definitely take him but he's going earlier than that in mOney redraft leagues.

 

[moleculo]

If Jackson is available in the 7th I definitely take him but he's going earlier than that in mOney redraft leagues.

I believe he's a late2/early 3. If Buffalo intends to go run and shoot, he has zero value, IMO.Also means Fitzpatrick/Stevie Johnson/S. Chandler are all underrated.

 

[swirvenirvin]

If Jackson is available in the 7th I definitely take him but he's going earlier than that in mOney redraft leagues.

7th?>>Huh?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

This is not what the offense will be like. Passing game needs more work than the running game. Don't overreact to one quarter of the first preseason game.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

And Fred Jackson is undervalued but typically going in the 4th or 5th round from what I've seen.

 

[moleculo]

This is not what the offense will be like. Passing game needs more work than the running game. Don't overreact to one quarter of the first preseason game.

ok, thanks. I trust your knowledge of all things Buffalo, even from Seattle.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Gailey said they wanted to work on some things in the passing game against the 4-3 and the gameplan was to pass it with the first team as long as the Skins played the 4-3. The Skins gave them a 4-3 on every play so they passed it on every play.

 

[amicsta]

Buffalo can still run out of the gun, no reason to dislike him just bc you see some run and shoot concepts. Tennessee's goin that way too and i dont see anyone abandonin chris johnson. Buffalo is also one of the best screen teams in the league, making Fjax an Spiller threats at all times.

 

[Diamond]

Fitzpatrick was calling his own plays in the no huddle. I think the announcers mentioned something about that during the game. Guess he likes pass plays.

Or perhaps they just wanted to work on the passing game in this meaningless preseason game. I wouldn't read anything into it.

 

[Raider Nation]

And Fred Jackson is undervalued but typically going in the 4th or 5th round from what I've seen.

Love the guy, but the Spiller hype is giving me pause. Do you see any way there is a true 50/50 split of the workload?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

And Fred Jackson is undervalued but typically going in the 4th or 5th round from what I've seen.

Love the guy, but the Spiller hype is giving me pause. Do you see any way there is a true 50/50 split of the workload?

nope. Jackson is much better running inside and in pass protection. He's the workhorse.

 

[smapdi]

I wouldn't be concerned at all if you're a FJax owner. Gailey wanted Fitz to work on the no-huddle and entrusted all of the playcalling to him. He was told to pass on the Redskins if they were lined up in the 34. Guess what? They lined up in the 34 every single play against the Bills first team offense so Fitz went with passes.

As a Bills fan, I would be all over FJax in a redraft this season. I don't think a lot of fans realize just how well he was playing last season before his injury. He was #2 in the league in rush yards, just barely behind the leader. I believe he had the highest YPC of any RB with 100+ attempts. He is the total package for a RB. He can break tackles, make people miss, block, pick up blitzes, catch the ball, work well in space, and holds on to the ball. The Bills are going to run a lot of 4 WR sets which means FJax & Spiller will be seeing a lot of Nickel and Dime defenses. Our offensive line excels at run blocking out of the spread. I couldn't believe the holes that they opened up at the beginning of the season during that 5-2 start.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see FJax have 40-50 receptions. Just another bonus for PPR leagues. Both our RB's are very good on screens.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Gailey said they wanted to work on some things in the passing game against the 4-3 and the gameplan was to pass it with the first team as long as the Skins played the 4-3. The Skins gave them a 4-3 on every play so they passed it on every play.

This is exactly correct, except you meant 3-4. The Skins never showed nickle or anything else other than their base 3-4 look, so Fitz passed every single down. Which makes his performance even worse, and the performance of the Skins 1st and 2nd string D more impressive.

 

[LawFitz]

Ryan Fitz -

Rib injury last year has this guy terribly underrated for this year.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Gailey said they wanted to work on some things in the passing game against the 4-3 and the gameplan was to pass it with the first team as long as the Skins played the 4-3. The Skins gave them a 4-3 on every play so they passed it on every play.

This is exactly correct, except you meant 3-4. The Skins never showed nickle or anything else other than their base 3-4 look, so Fitz passed every single down. Which makes his performance even worse, and the performance of the Skins 1st and 2nd string D more impressive.

why does it "make his performance even worse"? he didn't look good, but he did have a TD pass called back on an stupid illegal formation penalty.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Gailey said they wanted to work on some things in the passing game against the 4-3 and the gameplan was to pass it with the first team as long as the Skins played the 4-3. The Skins gave them a 4-3 on every play so they passed it on every play.

This is exactly correct, except you meant 3-4. The Skins never showed nickle or anything else other than their base 3-4 look, so Fitz passed every single down. Which makes his performance even worse, and the performance of the Skins 1st and 2nd string D more impressive.

why does it "make his performance even worse"? he didn't look good, but he did have a TD pass called back on an illegal motion penalty.

The Bills didn't run a single time because the Skins gave them a defensive look every single time that was more susceptible to the pass. But it didn't really help make Fitz' job any easier.You don't think it would be more understandable if he put up those numbers vs. a defensive look more geared to stop the pass in the first place? I honestly don't hold it against Fitz so much as I think it puts his performance into the proper context, and that makes it come off a little poorer. But then again, I think the Skins front-7 is very, very good and underrated, and the Bills OL couldn't really handle it, even with just a vanilla pass-rush.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Gailey said they wanted to work on some things in the passing game against the 4-3 and the gameplan was to pass it with the first team as long as the Skins played the 4-3. The Skins gave them a 4-3 on every play so they passed it on every play.

This is exactly correct, except you meant 3-4. The Skins never showed nickle or anything else other than their base 3-4 look, so Fitz passed every single down. Which makes his performance even worse, and the performance of the Skins 1st and 2nd string D more impressive.

why does it "make his performance even worse"? he didn't look good, but he did have a TD pass called back on an illegal motion penalty.

The Bills didn't run a single time because the Skins gave them a defensive look every single time that was more susceptible to the pass. But it didn't really help make Fitz' job any easier.You don't think it would be more understandable if he put up those numbers vs. a defensive look more geared to stop the pass in the first place? I honestly don't hold it against Fitz so much as I think it puts his performance into the proper context, and that makes it come off a little poorer. But then again, I think the Skins front-7 is very, very good and underrated, and the Bills OL couldn't really handle it, even with just a vanilla pass-rush.

It's the first game of the preseason. I don't really think what happens has any significance whatsoever.If your point is that he struggled to throw against the base defense instead of a nickel, then ok I guess I can understand the logic there. But, from what I watched, nobody was getting open. Redskins secondary did a really good job, IMO.But again, it's a quarter of work in the first preseason game, and the Bills running game is what they should rely on this year. If they had a more balanced attack and got some 2nd and 6, 3rd and short situations, then I'm sure Fitz would have been more effective.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Gailey said they wanted to work on some things in the passing game against the 4-3 and the gameplan was to pass it with the first team as long as the Skins played the 4-3. The Skins gave them a 4-3 on every play so they passed it on every play.

This is exactly correct, except you meant 3-4. The Skins never showed nickle or anything else other than their base 3-4 look, so Fitz passed every single down. Which makes his performance even worse, and the performance of the Skins 1st and 2nd string D more impressive.

why does it "make his performance even worse"? he didn't look good, but he did have a TD pass called back on an illegal motion penalty.

The Bills didn't run a single time because the Skins gave them a defensive look every single time that was more susceptible to the pass. But it didn't really help make Fitz' job any easier.You don't think it would be more understandable if he put up those numbers vs. a defensive look more geared to stop the pass in the first place? I honestly don't hold it against Fitz so much as I think it puts his performance into the proper context, and that makes it come off a little poorer. But then again, I think the Skins front-7 is very, very good and underrated, and the Bills OL couldn't really handle it, even with just a vanilla pass-rush.

It's the first game of the preseason. I don't really think what happens has any significance whatsoever.If your point is that he struggled to throw against the base defense instead of a nickel, then ok I guess I can understand the logic there. But, from what I watched, nobody was getting open. Redskins secondary did a really good job, IMO.But again, it's a quarter of work in the first preseason game, and the Bills running game is what they should rely on this year. If they had a more balanced attack and got some 2nd and 6, 3rd and short situations, then I'm sure Fitz would have been more effective.

You're reading into what I said too much. You are exactly right when you say "If your point is that he struggled to throw against the base defense instead of a nickel". That's all it was. Just putting it into context a little better, even if it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. He didn't look good going no-huddle against a vanilla base 3-4. That's all I was getting at.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Well, the Bills were missing two starting O-lineman and had a third playing out of position too. Glenn was shaky at LT, but it was also his first NFL game action. That alone will throw off a lot of what you're doing in a no huddle. I think that probably played a role in the pressure the Skins got on Fitz. Not to take credit away because the Skins have a good pass rush, but that won't be the line when the season starts.

Also, did ya see the horrible no-call pass interference? Stevie broke on a deep cross where the safeties had slid up and would have had a good two steps on the cornerback only the CB shoved him down from behind. Would have been a likely long TD on that play and there was no call by the replacement refs. So there WERE some plays out there for Fitz and the Bills.

But they do really still need some work. The penalties are really what concerned me the most. Well, that and the atrocious play of the cornerbacks.

 

[GroveDiesel]

The Bills video shows the terrible punt call first, and then shows the ridiculous non-call for Stevie.

http://deadspin.com/5933558/how-bad-were-replacement-refs-last-night-lets-examine-the-video-evidence